Shia-Sunni Debate: Shia Scholar humiliates himself [EngSubs]

[TheShiaTrueIslam]

God teaches Omar and Abu Baker Haddab & akhlaq at that age? Children learns about haddab and akhlaq at the of 5 or 6. Fully grown men screaming at each other in the presence of prophet. That also proves how ignorant Omar and Abu Baker were.

[MrLegox]

@TheShiaTrueIslam still doesn't change the fact that Allah begin ayah with "ya ayyuhallazina amanu..." Agree. Children learn about addab and akhlaq at tender age. But Rasulullah is mualim for his entire life. He teach sahabah all his life. The hikmah, so that we can learn from sahabat after that. Beside Rasulullah not there when SyUmar and SyAbuBakr still children.

[TheShiaTrueIslam]

@MrLegox Did omar and abu baker have parents or not? Couldn't their parents teach them these basic things? or they were waiting for Rasuluallah to come and teach them addab and akhlaq? It's only natural when you are in the presence of the prophet you have to be very polite nobody needs to be taught about that. Even when a person goes to court he/she is polite and shows respect for judge but yet omar and abu baker fully grown men act like children. very sad.

[TheShiaTrueIslam]

@MrLegox That also shows in what kinda family omar and abu baker were raised and yet they come and sit in place of the prophet after he passes away. How come the prophet didn't appoint abu bake to lead the ummah after his death? or he forgot to do so but on the other hand abu baker knows what to do just before he dies he appoint omar to lead the ummah. Does that make any sense at all? of course not. Think about it logically and you will always come to the right conclusion.

[SAIFUALI786]

saadat adam kam khar baishtar ast. o kor ast o nadaan

[dieAmuslim]

That Shia guy has no knowledge at all and just made a fool out of himself. Alhumdullilah Sunnies don't teach to hate any of the prophets companions or family we love them all. Shia people curse 75% of the people around the prophet pbuh.

[BibleIslam]

After this Ayat was revealed, then on the tragedy of Thursday, all of the Sahabah raised their voices in argument infront of the Prophet (sawa), instigated by Umar who called the Prophet as "crazy".

[salahudin720]

@BibleIslam

Before you pass judgment on Umar (ra), why don't you take the word "Bible" out of your username since no Shia has done an ounce of research on the Bible, as compared to Sheikh Deedat (rah) and Zakir Naik, to put the Christians in their place?!

As for calling "crazy," that is your mistranslation and misinterpretation. Do you have no shame? Watch the Al-Mustakillah debates and see how your scholars fled, one by one! And all their lies were answered....have some shame!

[easternprince79]

Mashallah awesome vid!!

[fdx643]

May Allah azza wajjal curse this corrupted SHIA kuffar... Shame on them, Shaaameee!!!

[janjan55555]

PERFECT! We need more of these Sunni Scholars who can kick but! :P

[NWONoWorldOrderNWO]

Wa-inna minhum lafareeqan yalwoona alsinatahum bialkitabi litahsaboohu mina alkitabi wama huwa mina alkitabi wayaqooloona huwa min AAindi Allahi wama huwa min AAindi Allahi wayaqooloona AAala Allahi alkathiba wahum yaAAlamoona And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues, so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say: "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie against Allah while they know it.

[salahudin720]

The Hadith that Shias love to quote, of Pen and Paper, in it, Umar (ra) had such a beautiful message...if only the Shias would have listened. He said that the Prophet (saw) was ill AND THE BOOK OF ALLAH (swt) WAS SUFFICIENT FOR MUSLIMS.

Today, I am convinced that Shias, even their top scholars, can lie upon the hadith, try to make a case and get away with it but when it comes to the Qur'an, they fail so miserably.

May Allah (swt) guide these so-called lovers of Ahlul Bayt (ra).

[panchguy]

hahaha.Mr salahudin 720 wants to believe the quran as he likes.I never said that quranic verse where 'imam" was 4 banu hashim .But the concept of imamte is what is important.!!However its childish coz u people want everything ready made and to the point.I have had an exchange with salauddin 720,in which i have made my points.

[salahudin720]

1. True story!

In this very video, I started an exchange with Panchguy which went from here to personal messages. During the course of our debate, he did not prove anything from the Qur’an. Every time he quoted the Qur’an, he made himself look like Allahyari.

[salahudin720]

2. One verse which he half-quoted was:

"O' David, we assigned you as Caliph (successor) on the earth ..." (Quran 38:26)

The full verse is as follows:

"O David! We did indeed make thee a vicegerent on earth: so judge thou between men in truth (and justice): Nor follow thou the lusts (of thy heart), for they will mislead thee from the Path of God: for those who wander astray from the Path of God, is a Penalty Grievous, for that they forget the Day of Account."

[panchguy]

@salahudin720 see the whole debate i never quoted about david .At least do not lie.Allah is aware of your actions

[salahudin720]

@panchguy

You did not quote that? Here is what you sent me, a half-quoted verse:

" "O' David, we assigned you as Caliph (successor) on the earth ..." (Quran 38:26) " "

And if you deny, and do not fear Allah (swt), which you apparently do not because you half-quote His words and lie upon them, then I will be more than happy to send a printed screen of your message to you and the rest of the world.

Deal?

[panchguy]

@salahudin720 i cant find it,went through it!

[salahudin720]

@panchguy

InshAllah, I will take a snapshot of our discussion and create a video. And then do not come telling me that I tried to expose you or anything.

[salahudin720]

3. He shot himself in the foot so bad because this has nothing to do with the Shia Imamat plus it states that even when Allah (swt) chooses an Imam, as in the case of Dawood (as), that Imam can be led astray or misled if he follows his lusts. Therefore, Imams cannot be infallible.

Panchguy has not replied ever since, lol!

And this is just one example. He quoted many verses out of context or half-quoted them. Now I am convinced that these Shias do not bother learning the Qur’an.

[AbuMuslimKhorasani]

@salahudin720

well said.

[ManhajSalafi]

@salahudin720 The shia guy tried distorting the verses in the Quran but ended up taking an arrow to the knee!! May Allah guide them. Ameen

[videogames13]

amazing the brother proved him may Allah swt guide all the Muslims InshAllah Brother JazakAllah Knairan for this video InshAllah many of the Muslims will return to teh truth

AbuMuslimKhorasani

[chaukange]

@ ALL OF YOU, i thought the prophet(pbuh) couldnt read or write, how comes he asked to be given a pen and a paper? you pple need to grow up, by the way, were there any papers at that time?

[Lizzio1980]

@chaukange Its not Pen and Paper there were also no pen's in that time DUH! They used different things as paper and pen what we call now pen and paper.. i hope you understand this...

Did you read what he says after getting the pen and paper?

[salkas47]

Shows how misguided and cursed they are ibn taymihah said glorified is Allah who loved Abu Bakr Siddiq and Omar ibn Khattab so much that he created a nation after them who cursed them day and night continuously giving them rewards

[12hamida]

YOU KEEP BRINGING UP OUR BUKHARI WHAT IS IT TO YU AS FAR AS SHIA ARE CONCERENED EVERY SAHABA IS A KAFIR WHY TAKE A KAFIR WORD FOR ANYTHING YOU RAFIDI WNAT IT BOTH WAYS WHEN THE WWIND BLOWS YOUR DIRECTION YOU GO WITH IT WHEBN AGAINST YOU AGAINST IT

[panchguy]

@12hamida i understand akwwdah and fiqh.Majority of our belief is that the sahaba went towards worldy pleasure instead of sticking to the prophetic command.so they did go out of the fold of islam but they are not kafir.A kafir is one who doeant belief in allah.They sahaba prayed,haj,umrah later so they r nt kafir ,but since they boycotted imam ali(s),fougt him and his children so they r not appreciable

[12hamida]

@panchguy okay i can respect a view like that even though i dont agree but you are not cursing sahaba like most of shia sheiks i hear a view like that keeps you in fold of islam

[12hamida]

THE THRUTH HURT YOU YOU RAFIDI STICK TO THE MOST FEEBLE THINGS TO PROVE YOUR POINT IM NOT PICING ON YU JUST TRYING TO OPEN YOUR EYES STOP CURSING SAHABA WIVES OF PROFET COME TO CORRECT DEEN AS FAR AS BARKING LIKE A DOG ALI YARI DOES TAHT NOT ME LOOK HOW HE GOT HUMILIATED IN THIS VIDEO

[12hamida]

PRAYING WITH HANDS FOLDED IS A SUNNAH OF THE PROFET EVEN HUSSEIN ANDD HASAN DID IT DARE CHALLENGE ME I WILL SHOW YOU EVIDENCE FRON SHIA SOURCES BUT WHO I WISH THAT WAS OUR ONLY DIFFERENCE SHIA HAVE AQEEDAH ISSUE YOUR CREED IS CORRUPTED WITH A RABBI TEACHINGS

[panchguy]

@12hamida Are u insane???I told u that if all sunni have one practice and not differ why do the hambali say its forbidden to pray with hands tied.Get some knowledge kid,thats what i sd earlier thet u  guys love to beat around the bush.And please cursing sahaba.The sahaba like mauviya,talha zubair revolted against imam ali(s).So personally i dislike them for that but cursing is an individual choice

[12hamida]

@panchguy again we are taLKING ABOUT CREED NOT HANDS FOLDED I GUESS YOU DONT GET IT MY POINT IS CURSING SAHABA IS KUFR READ QURAN 48/19

[panchguy]

@12hamida i just said that metaphorically .What i mean was to ur earlier comment stating that the shia ayatullah having different opinion.so i just compared the same as above,though i gt ur point of akeed(beleif) and jurisprudence(fiqh).Its that wy are we goin to unite by respecting each other's symbol.If u see sunnis,rsufis,deabandis,barelv­is so many vids on video m,forget shis thew sunni sect amongst themselves are issuing takfiri fatwa so who is correct what sect u follow??

[12hamida]

@panchguy ANY ONE THAT DOES NOT FOLLOW THE QURAN AND SUUNNAH OF THE PROFET WHEN TAKFIR IS MADE IT IS MADE ON THE ACTIONS AND SAYINGS OF WHAT PEOPLE SAY AND THAT IS BASED ON HADEETH WHEN YOU EQUAL TO ALLAH YOU ARE A MUSHRICK WHEN YOU GO AGAINST WHAT QURAN SAYS EVEN ONE SENTENCE OF IT JUST CAUSE SOME GUY PROCLAIMS HE IS A SUNNI AND MAKES TAKFIR DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT I WOULD NOT MEET A SHIA AND ALL OF A SUDDEN LABEL HIM A KAFIR IF HE HOLDS ALI YARI VIEWS HE IS IS

[12hamida]

@12hamida EVEN OUR SCHOLORS TELLS US TO NOT EVER CALL SOMEONE A KAFIR BUT WHEN I READ SHIA BOOKS AND THEY SAYS HE WHO HAS CALLED ABU BAKE AND UTHMAN UMAR A MUSLIM SONT BELEIVE IN THERE GOD THAT IS DEFENIATELY SOMETHING TO DEBATE EVEN JAFAR SADIQ TOLD HIS WIFE TO SUPPORT ABU BAKR AL KAFI VOL 8 PG 101

[Aaliyah19ify]

@panchguy you say cursing is an individual choice, NO its not, its either right or WRONG....

[panchguy]

@Aaliyah19ify why  beacuse you say so???

[12hamida]

NO YOUR WRONG AGAIN RAFIDI THERE IS A DIFERENCE IN FIQH OF AQEEDAH AND FIQH OF PRCTCE SALAH WHERE YOU RAFIDI GO WRONG IS YOUR BELEIFS WITHIN THE ITHNA AHARI SCHOOL YOU FOLLOW ARE SCREWED UP GO LEARN YOUR FAITH FIRST BEFORE YOU DEBATE SUNNI WE HAVE YOUR MUMBER WE WILL TRAP YOU EVERY TIME LIKE HOW USTAD DID

[bigcee22]

AbuMuslimKhorasani. As salaamu alaikum wa rahmatulahi wa barakatuhu. Thank you for providing the video in English. May Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala reward you and your family for your efforts. Ameen.

[12hamida]

YOU CONTADICTED YOUR SELF AGAIN RAFIDI SO SOME SHIA BELEIVE SAHABA KAFIR OTHERS DONT SO PRETTY MUCH YOU GUYS ARE CONFUSED IN YOUR FAITH THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON CREED IN ISLAM THE FOUR SUNNI SCHOOLS ALL HAVE ONE BELEIF ON CREED SHIA HAVE DIFFERENT BELEIFS JUST TAKE SHADA AND ENTER ISLAM WHOLE HEARTLY LEAVE SHIA KUFR ALONE WORSHIP ALLAH NOT ALI AND IMAMS

[panchguy]

@12hamida See ther u are spilling ur filthy mouth with sheer nonsense and hatred ,instead of disccussing things u bark like a dog in the desert,u think by ur addamant attitude ur be able to convince people.U shud know that fools and retards will only comprehend what u say in ur language.We dont worship ali, again MR SUPER IDIOT go to 1st grade at get some common sense ,slapping as i said ask ur own SAHIH BUKHARI why did aisha(r) slap her face THEN ASK ME HOLLOW MAN!!

[panchguy]

@12hamida regarding ur 4 schools forget opinion..doesnt ur ahmed bin hambal mazhab prohibits people from tieing their hands in salah while the 3 schools tieing hand is compulsory...u fool thats what i said see ur belief first.then talk abt us

[12hamida]

EVEN THESE OCCASIONS YOU ARE REFFERRING TO IS ISLOLATED INCIDENTS NOT ON GOING CRAIZINESS LIKE YOU SHIA RAFIDI COMMITT YOU MISINTERPERT THESE HADDETH HOW BOUT THE HADEETH IN BUKAHARI AND MUSLIM THAT SAYS HE WHO SLAPS HIS CHEEKS BEATS HIS SELF IS NOT OF US SINCE YOU NOW BELEIVE IN BUKHARI WHEN CONVIENANT FOR YOU YOU SHOULD ABIDE BY TRUE ISLAM NOT A CULT MADE UP BY ABDUALLAH IBN SABA A RABBI

[12hamida]

awww thruth hurts dont it i love when shia curse me i get REWARD WHILE YOU GET THE SIN THE HADEETH S YOU RAFIDI QUOTE ARE MISINTERPERTED BY YOU MISGUIDED MUSHRICKS WILL NEVER GET IT YOU EXPOSE YOUR OWN SHIA CULT WHEN YOU TRY TO SO CALLED EXPOSE US THRUTH PREVAILS FALSE HOOD FLEES

[AfghanPashtunPathan]

thanks for uppload

[12hamida]

AND BY THE WAYT WHATS BETTER BEATING AROUND BUSH OR BEATING YOURSELF LOL RAFIDI ARE DESPICIBLE

[12hamida]

dunb founded not ITS FUNNY YOU GUYS CALL ALL THE SAHABA KAFIR BUT 3 BUT YOU STILL QUTE FROM BUKHARI AND MUSLIM YOU RAFIDI CONTRADICT YOUR SELF IN EVERYTHING WE CAN DEFEND OUR HADITH WHAT DO SHIA DO SAY OH ITS WEAK BUIT ITS FUNNY NONE OF YOUR ULEMA SAYS THEY ARE WEAK EVEN ALLAH YARI DECLARES ALL JHADITH IN AL KAFI TO BE SAHIH SO GO LEARN YUR CULT LIKE RELIGION MORE BEFORE YOU WANNA DEBATE DONT GET EMOTIONAL CAJSE OUR SHIEK MADE ALLAH YARI LOOK BAD

[panchguy]

@12hamida i think u should querstion ummul momineen Aisha why did she beat herself at the death of Rasul,or perhaps u shud ask rasul(s)why he made the shabi weep in badr at the martyrs,thats the differnce we know urstuff much better than u fools know!g

[panchguy]

@12hamida MR/Mrs SUPER IDIOT understand what i meant ok!Some calling sahabi kafir is not amongst all the major ulema,some believe while some dont.We quote from sahioh bukhari not becuz we believe in them,but to expose ur own beliefs.so understand the point b4 commentin

[salahudin720]

Where are our Shia brothers who call Allahyari as "The Destroyer"? And I have been banned from posting under their videos else I would have brought this video to their attention.

What is worth commending is the patience of the brother listening to, and putting up with, this his filth. On his own show, Allahyari won't even allow you to make a point. He will either cut you off or scream at you. And here, he had 5 uninterrupted mins but the brother made him look like a fool in half the time.

[12hamida]

THE HADEETH OF THE PEN IS SO MISUSED BY RAFIDI TO MAKE A BASELESS POINT THESE MISGUIDED SOULS WILL DO ANYTHING TO BE ACCEPTED BY SUNNI BUT THEY ARE OUR DOGS AND ITS SO EASY TO DEBATE SHIA DONT USE SUNNI BOOKS USE THERE OWN SOURCES AGAINST THEM

[panchguy]

@12hamida prove me some wud love to hear it!Whereas our sunni bethen most of the time are dumb founded when when we expose much of their belief in their books,they go beating around the bush to cover the mess up where as the classical scholars have narrated the same.And u think ur guided??:-D

[TheFaysoo]

wow great speech by Sunni guy what the fuck happened to shia Kafir ?if you curse companion of Prophet than you are kaffir.

[panchguy]

uve deleted my msgs gr8 make my belief stronger!!

[Arash40880]

shomaa khodeton ro khaste nakonid in haromzadeh alayari nemifahme

[faridzaman1]

This is nothing more than Manipulation of Faith to create fear and control the mass population!!! While we are busy fighting with each other, the enemy is exploiting our land, resources, and our people!! WAKE UP!!!!!!

[sunnionly]

@faridzaman1 what you dont understand is that the enemy as you say has a friend, a helper, so he can occupy our lands and take everything they want.....that enemy is SHIA!!!

look at our history from Salah Al-deen(ra) to Ottoman empire to now the war in Afganistan and Iraq, they help them come in and in return they think they will get something back but they never do but yet continue to make the same mistake over and over again!!!

May Allah curse the Shia and bless Ahlul Sunnah...Ameen.

[12hamida]

THIS SHIA RAFIDI ALWAYS GETS EXPOSED HE IS LIKE THE IMAM ZAMAN A COWARD WHO RUNS WHEN SUNNI CALL HIS SHOW TO DEBATE THEM

[huribenabdul]

O shia were you get khowladge about sahaba if shahaba not muslim then who going to be muslim beacuse they brought islam one places to another places.

[AfghanSultan]

Hahahahah shia got owned by the first verse haahaha

[555075297]

i seen full debat thes is med up and fake wrong

[leitz28]

Example of Shia's disbelieve in authenticity of Qur'an:

“Aboo ‘Abd Allah (as), has said, ‘The Holy Quran that Jibra’eel brought to Muhammad (SAWAS) had seventeen thousand verses (17,000).’”

Source: Al-Kulaynee, Al-Kaafi, vol. 2, pg. 634, hadeeth # 28

•Al-Majlisi said this hadeeth is Muwaththaq (Reliable) in Mir’aat Al-’Uqool, vol. 12, pg. 525

•Al-Majlisi I (Majlisi’s Father) said this hadeeth is Saheeh (Authentic) in RawDah Al-Muttaqoon, vol. 10, pg. 21

[ItachiAli1993]

Why dont you show the rest?

Scared cause Allahyari defeats him

[leitz28]

@ItachiAli1993

Please you show the rest if you are truthful in your claim.

[leitz28]

Here are some proofs:

Mulla Baqir Majlisi writes that Hazrat Hasan (R.A) said "I swear by Allaah instead of these shee’ah, Mu’awiyyah is better for me as these shee’ah just claim they are my shee’ah when really they intended to kill me and loot my wealth.”(Jala-al A'ayoon pg. no.423).

“The killers of Hussain (radi-Allaahu ‘anhu) were all Koofee and no one from amongst them was a Shaamee (Syrian) or a Hijaazee (From Makkah or Madeenah).” (Khulaasatul Masaa’ib (pg.201) and many more

[panchguy]

@leitz28 U are so confused!.If u r a bad muslim does it mean sunni faith is preaches bad,they r 2 diferent things.There are bad people in every mazhab.But the mazhab doesnt teach that,suicide killings,beheadings people do,should we assume islam is bad.They aare 2 diff.things.Of course if every imam 's stage were good and bad bad shia.Please research what imam ali(\s) speaks about his true shia and their signs.

[panchguy]

@leitz28 What u said is PURE IGNORANCE that ur wahabi and salafi mullahs have put in ur head!We hate ahlul bait(S)...Gosh thats a suprise!!But i dont blame u ,i request u to come out of darkness of ignorance and research the shia(by the way we are also called shia-ali(shia of ali(s)) )n u saying we hate ahulel bait!!!Salaam

[leitz28]

@panchguy

If you are shia of Hazrat Ali (R.A), then who are "Rafizi" (the betrayer of Hazrat Zaid Bin Ali Bin Hussain (R.H))? I did much more research about your religion than your so called "Ayatullah's". To be a perfect Shia you should:

1) Say Qura'an is incomplete.

2) Disbelieve the Sahabah's whom ALLAH (SWT) addresses as "O you who believe...". Not only disbelieve, but curse them (Nauzubillah) whom ALLAH (SWT) calls believers.

3) You should keep Taqiyyah.

4) You should do Mut'ah.

[panchguy]

@leitz28 u claim that u hv reasearched so much.But ur assertion seems to be just 0.1%(and u claim ur more knowledgeable than ayatullah) percent.Please reseach more as what u said is totally ignorance.

[leitz28]

@panchguy

Brother! In such a small space how can we post the entire references. Obviously I had posted not 0.1% but 0.0001% of the faulty beliefs which are mentioned in your books. But by agreeing that I have mentioned only 0.1% of your beliefs you had agreed that such types of Kufr (ignorance) are mentioned in your books. You are right that what I said is ignorance but my brother! isn't it mentioned in your books.

[panchguy]

@leitz28 these stuff are mentioned i totally agrree but unlike the sahih sitta we dont claim our books to be 100% authentic.and moreover they need to be examined in order to be put in force.And we dont believe that quran in incomplete this is a lie,a deviant sect believs that called the akhbaris,Cursing shaba no!! who said we are not permitted but anybody has the right to examine them and their life.I myself respect them questioning is imp.Dont just pickup stuff at random from books wt contex

[panchguy]

@leitz28 Many ahadith are written which.We have our own chain of narrations,we clasify similarly the isnad,ehther is mushaf,shaqi etc.Even al kafi is belive to be 50% untrue.Mutah is a necessaity not compulsory.We believ shahaba to be muslims but Muhammad(s)said"Aquire knowledge till death".There are evidence from sahih and Quran that not all shabi were true.We clasiify them according.Theres a whole chapter on hypocrites in quran.Much more reseacrh ,May allah unite and guide us all.

[Aaliyah19ify]

@panchguy you said you were 'shias of Ali (as)' the word shia means 'followers' why are you not followers of muhammah (saw), is he not enough for you???, we don't call ourselves followers of umar (as) or abu bakr (as)

[panchguy]

@Aaliyah19ify please learn the basics then we will and study little ahadith before assumption

[panchguy]

@AbuMuslimKhorasani If if u claim(just for ur belief) that omer never said that YET UR SUNNI BELIEF THAT ALL SAHABA WERE GOOD AND TRUE MOMINEEN IS REFUTED !!! This hadeeth istself is enough to prive the shia belief that all sahaba were not on serat al mustikeem..

[panchguy]

@AbuMuslimKhorasani Well MR. HYPOCRITE,,The problem is that we know ur hadith much better thatn u know.Go and refer before talking((some one said..hahahaha.....))It is crystal clear that omar dint listen during the last moments of rasul abd u call him rightly guided????

[panchguy]

Sahih Bukhari: V 7, Book 70, No 573: Ibn 'Abbas: Whn Allah's Apostle was on his death-bed n in the house thr wr pepl amng who was 'Umar the Prophet said,Come,let me rite for you a stent after wich you will not go astray.Umar said,Nabi is sersly ill and you have the Qur'an; so the Quran is enough for us.Sm sd "Go nr so tht Rasul may write for you a sttmnt after whch you wl nt go astray," whle the othrs said as Umar said. When they causd a hue n cry b4 the nabi, Allah's Apostle said,Go away!

[AbuMuslimKhorasani]

@panchguy

See you just exposed yourself. You first accused Umar (ra) of telling the Prophet (saw) "he is talking nonsense". Who made noises? Read:

"...So Ahlulbayt Differed in their Opinions and disputed, some said come let the Prophet of Allah peace be upon him write us this book which we will never go astray after it and some said what Umar had said, When they made much noise and differed greatly before the Prophet, he said to all of them, “go away and leave me.”[Bukhair - Muslim]

[panchguy]

@AbuMuslimKhorasani gosh what language u understand..you keep playing around like a baby?what ur age,i hope i am discussing to a mature person.There are numerous ahadith that omar did acuse the prophet of talking nonsense,and he first repleied by saying that the"quran is enough"And moreover ur ahlul bait includes all siblings and children,wifes and everybody but not ours.

[saihat6]

@AbuMuslimKhorasani

first of all, Ahulalbait never differ from Rassullah. and if some did it's not an excuse. whoever said Prophet Mohammed is talking no sense deserves no love from me and from any muslim who has a bit love for the prophet.

second, why are you trying in your whole comment to avoid what Umar actually said about the prophet? in Arabic he said (إن الرسول ليهذي) asta3'furallh that's a bit worse than (talking no sense). and yes he did say to all go away because that was horrible :)

[panchguy]

@MrAzman75 Is this the sahaba who u guys love that on the death bed rasul (s)requested pen and paper and ur gr8 caliph omar accuses the nabi of talking nonsense and too ill.Perhaps if umar would have given a pen paper then today we wudnt have been split into so many sects.

[AbuMuslimKhorasani]

@panchguy

Listen Mr.Liar. Caliph Omar (ra) didn't say anything like. All Ahadeeth says "...someone said the Prophet is ..." it doesn't mention the name of Omar (ra). Also, in that gathering members of Ahlulbait was also there and they also made noises. Please read some more Ahadeeth before making false claims.

[FreakyMango]

@MrAzman75 shia has no foundation all the backwards illetrates follow it

[panchguy]

@FreakyMango and how literate are u or cappable are u Mr Literate?

[metafora88]

@panchguy maaannnn, that would have been a great story if not for the fact that Rasulullah peace be upon him was illiterate, he cannot read nor can he write. he never asked for any pen..he will told some sahabah to write for him sometimes, but he himself never ask for any pen because he has no use for it.

this above is a well-known fact for every muslims, I doubt that what you wrote is really a hadith, or just something you made up. guess the answer is pretty clear..

[panchguy]

@metafora88 Hey please did u bother to check up references??I quote it from ur reverred book not my"MADEUP STORY".Ironically thats an insult because we reveere our prophet Muhammad(s) the best ever creation to walk on earth and hence dont make him illiterate like u guys do,youl have made him just an ordinary illiterate man.We belive him to be literate though nobody taught him direct.

[metafora88]

@panchguy our Rasul is indeed the best of all creation. The fact that he is illiterate does not in anyway make him any less than that. Oh, by the way, when I wrote that he is illiterate I don't mean that he is stupid, what I mean is simply that he cannot read nor write, and that's all the more reason that Al-Quran cannot be in anyway something he thought up. and for your information, we, REAL MUSLIMS, always consider this as some sort of his mu'jizat.

[panchguy]

@metafora88 Well that the difernece we belibve him to read and write as well !!!Coz he is the best creation on earth and the alimul-hakim(allah) cannot send someone who doesnt know to read or write between jahil people.Any way "REAL MUSLIMS" haha i like the way u talk!!though looks only a boast to me!

[salahudin720]

@panchguy

What do you think the Prophet (saw) would have dictated for the Sahabas (ra) to write down?

[panchguy]

@salahudin720 U need to go to the detail of this article in order to figure out what?If i just tell you that the wanted to appoint imam ali(s) then u wud not believe me,but if u look at the Imam Ali(s) credentials then u may believe it,also the nomination of imam ali(s) at Ghadeer support our claim !salaam

[salahudin720]

@panchguy

If you open Kitab Al-Irshad, by Shaykh Mufid, p.131 it says (about the hadith of Pen and Paper) that after the Sahabas (ra) left, Prophet (saw) called for Abbas (ra) and Ali (ra). Prophet (saw) then offered the Imamat/Khilaafat to Abbas (ra) n when Abbas (ra) refused, he offered it to Ali (ra).

If Ali (ra) was announced Imam at Ghadir, which took place before the incident of Pen and Paper, why did the Prophet (saw) change his mind and offer leadership to Abbas (ra)? OUCH

[panchguy]

A narration attributed to Sa'id b. Jubair reports: Ibn Abbas that he said: Thursday, and what about Thursday? Then tears began to flow until I saw them on his cheeks as it they were the strings of pearls. He (the narrator) said that Allah's Messenger (S) said: Bring me a shoulder blade and ink-pot (or tablet and inkpot), so that I write for you a document (by following which) you would never go astray. They said: Allah's Messenger (S) is in the state of unconsciousness.IS THIS A REAL SAHABA

[panchguy]

@MrAzman75 Welll same to you how do u determine a verse.?Not just self explanaion or qiyas.Some verses revealed were revealed at events.The above verse has beeen suported with ahadith of disrespect of rasulaallah(s) by abu bakr,omar.WHEN THEY CUD DISRESPECT NABI AFTER GETTING HIDAYAH..WHY DO U GUYS DOUBT ABT THEM DISRESPECTING THE HOUSEHOLD OF NABI????AFTER HIS DEATH

[panchguy]

@AishaKafir Salaam rite bro many verses were revealed at a praticular time.This verse was revealed when after abubakr and omar had become muslims for quite time.Yet they dispected the prophet.We have evidence and tafsir of this verse with ahadith

[leitz28]

@panchguy

Shia book says that only three persons remained Muslims after The Prophet (saws).

Hazrat Salman (RA), Hazrat Abu Dhar (RA), Hazrat Miqdad (RA).

No mention of Hazrat Ali (RA), Hazrat Fatima (RA), Hazrat Hasan (RA), Hazrat Hussain (RA). This is because Shias hate Ahlul-Bait. They disrespected Hazrat Ali (RA), killed Hazrat Hasan (RA) & murdered Hazrat Hussain (RA) and aso they betrayed Hazrat Zaid BinAli Bin Hussain (RH). This is Shia religion whose origin is Najd of Iraq (i.e Kufa)

[kareemabdullah]

@leitz28 and those 3 sahabas were either persian or had done something that the shias feel was good so they decided not to give takfir on those 3, they are racists, they only like those sahabas cos they were persian

[MrMuaviakhan]

bloody liar son of bitch.shia is myth and damned severely even by their own aaima....like jaffer saiq condemned this scum and said the shias are not following Islam.tehzibul ahkam ......famous shia book.

[mdhussam]

No body can chage Quran.... Even if Shia Scholars work on tht for years...You cant do tht....SO better concentrate on ur deeds before pointing fingers on others....

[LieExtinguisher]

Shia Always raise their voices and talk without understanding & when confronted they change the subject or dodge Questions, from the depth of my heart i ask Allah not to guide Shia scholars cause they know the truth but deny it may allah curse them

[panchguy]

@AbuMuslimKhorasani Why are u diversifying a topic??See the language u use you calling us worst than khwarij and takfiri.On what basis u call that just bcoz we examine and catch u people with ur pants pulled down thats y???Go back to std1st and learn some akhlaq before even taking the name of our Prophewt Muhammad from ur filthy mouth..

[SunniPureIslam]

the verse is directed to those who believe and they use it to prove the opposite of what it says, which is that they are disbelievers! Maybe some need blackboards so one can spell things out for them. Or maybe use pictures as in books for children to make understanding it easier.

[SunniPureIslam]

very, very nice. jazak Allah khair. Sadly Shias always twist even the most direct verses, thats why they don't quote verses or hadeeths much. They just talk talk talk, and lie and lie, then look for something to twist to support what they already believe in (if we assume they really believe in it and aren't in it for khums money etc)

[panchguy]

Moreover when subsects within sunni isalm debate or discussion issues among themselves be it barelvi,deobandi,ahle hadith,sufi,ashari,maliki and many more they quote ahadith from the same books of their believe and same chain,translator etc.But when we shia do that they immediatedly will respond by saying its not a sahih hadith.Strange.

[panchguy]

excuse me read surah hujurat on google with translation it clearly says"O you who believe and not believed(as in past tense) as this sunni is saying.It clearly indicates that.And the shia dint get humilated but the sunni himself attested that abu bakr and omar dint have manners.Hence we believe they lost manners and faith after the death of prophet and secondly whateva the shia believe is supported from your sahih.

[AbuMuslimKhorasani]

@panchguy

The SHia are great takfiris and extremists and they are worst than Khawarij.

Read this verse:

"O Prophet, why do you prohibit [yourself from] what Allah has made lawful for you, seeking the approval of your wives? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." (66:1)

Mr.Takfiri are you going to attack the Prophet (saw) NOW? There are dozens of similar verses where Allah (saw) is correcting the Prophet (saw).

[MrMuaviakhan]

@AbuMuslimKhorasani assalam o alaikum dear brother jazakallah to knocking the teeth of rawafid by a logical and legitimate way.brother these shia rawafid are severely misguided people.they even don't believe in the prophet p.b.u.h.they use taqiah to make muslims fool.

[AbuMuslimKhorasani]

@MrMuaviakhan

Walaikum Salam brother,

We pray to Allah (swt) to guide them to the right path, the path on which Rasulullah (saw) and Ahlulbait and Sahaba were. Ameen

[aboALmothanna]

@MrMuaviakhan

12er Rafidi shias are Mushriks, there is no single doubt about that.

[kalaam003]

@panchguy : where in Surah hujrat it says O you who believe and not believed? Tell me the verse number.

[SunniPureIslam]

@panchguy All over the Quraan it says Ya Ayoha Alladheena Aamanoo, oh who you believe.. and they are usually verses sent down in Madinah where believers settled, and not Makkah. and you still say it says they are non believers?! Please put ego aside. When a believer sees truth he should accept without hesitation, far from ego, or thinking of it as "winning" or "losing".. whoever follows what is correct, or even corrects a previous mistake far from ego, is the winner.

[AishaKafir]

@panchguy Salam brother yes jahil sadaat twisted the verse and he also got humiliated on the issue of abu bakrs daughter doing mutah! I posted the video lol. Also I will make a video refuting this and sadaats lies about the verse.

[AbuMuslimKhorasani]

@AishaKafir

twisted?

AllahYari didn't dare to read the verse and he was trying to twist it but Ustaad Sadaat exposed him by reading the verse. The shia scholar shoot himself in the foot.

[AishaKafir]

@AbuMuslimKhorasani It says O ye who believe! which is indicating their apparent faith its already been refuted here: watch?v=TRrIYyGZ9dQ

[MrAzman75]

@panchguy You interpret it wrongly brother..if you want to seek the truth, do not put yourself in the shia or sunni camp but seek from neutral zone than you can see it clearly, whose right and wrong.

[kalaam003]

Allaho Akbar. Allaho Akbar. Allaho Akbar.

O Shias, open your brains. Think about how your millionaire scholars want to fool you, so that they keep using your pocket as their personal baitul maal. This is not Islam, this is kufr. The actual Shia beliefs are kufr. May Allah reward our brother in Islam for showing the true face of Rafidhi mullas.

[Basem63]

Keep those vids coming with translation may Allah bless you, I wish I know Faresi in order to respond to their sick videos

[afgmuslim1234]

Masha'Allah. Who is the Qur'an reciter at the end?

[AbuMuslimKhorasani]

@afgmuslim1234

Salam Alaikum,

He is Qari Abdul Basit (rah).

[alnarweeg92]

wow this kharij dirty shia could be a great rapper

[justdoorie]

SubhaAllah Ya Khi Sunni Alim Destroyed the rafzi

[TUBNIT1]

subhanAllah

[Hamidcomb0]

very gooood!! mashaAllah