NEWSFLASH - Hitler REALLY NEVER said that. It's amazing how far the new era of slander has come.
It makes me sick as a Disney Fan and Past Guest for 5 Times since 1983 that you would even praise this kind of video. It's amazing how slander and fearmongering can merge politics with Disney.
We already have Politics merging with Disney when it comes to a number of politicians who wanna financially neglect its' citizens who are also CONSUMERS. A. ABC w/ the E/I Mark.
@djthereplay You are one really sick puppy get some therapy. Its called satire and entertainment for those that have an IQ higher than the speed limit.
SATIRE AND ENTERTAINMENT? Like Disney doesn`t entertain us enough?
Have YOU lost your EVER-Loving mind, or the part of your mind that loves ANYTHING for that matter?
Am I a sick puppy because I`m a Disney Fan who would never dream of making a video so repulsive, that it would stand ANY chance of possibly selling a terrorist to Disney, and I HAVE A DEEP - SEEDED HATRED OF SUCH ACTS AS THIS WHO COME FROM THOSE WHO EVEN MENTION ANYTHING DISNEY?
If I`m a sick puppy for speaking out against such repulsive acts like this, then I SURE Don`t want to be cured, nor do I need ANY kind of therapy.
If ME Speaking out against deplorable acts such as this as a Disney Fan since I was 4 YEARS OLD in 1983 is WRONG, then AS LONG AS I HAVE A LOVE FOR DISNEY OR ANYTHING ELSE POSITIVE IN THIS COUNTRY, I WILL NEVER EVER BE RIGHT !!!!
Please, Let's be careful with these Hitler / Disney Connection refrence Videos.
I am an avid Disney Fan, and I am sometimes afraid that too much of this can lead to Disney being seen in almost a total bad light by some people.
I cannot stand for that to happen. Whatever the critique you have with the parks, we can talk about it. I have critiques too. But, at least we are talking about something good. Please, try to keep away from posting or making videos like this.
Everything in this video is funny because it's true - to the extent that people who mourn classic EPCOT Center are almost nazis in their purism for the place. IRONY. Also, Disney hated the Jews....so....
But seriously, coming from a cast member...lighten the hell up. Disney already has a bad rap as the evil conglomerate of the world.
First off, Disney NEVER hated ANYBODY and Disney hates NOBODY TO THIS DAY.
Second off, Where was this when I had my first visit to a Disney Park back in 1983?
That's right, Where were you when I visited Walt Disney World in the Spring of 1983 and I saw the Castle for the first time, and it touched my life with joy ..... FOREVER?
You're right, Disney got a bad rap, but it certainly was not from making fruitful, entertaining, amusement product.
Personally, WHY WOULD YOU AS SOMEONE WHO WORE OR WEARS THE NAME DISNEY EVERYDAY COULD EVER BE AMUSED BY THIS KIND OF VIDEO THAT BASICALLY ALMOST PROMOTES DISNEY TO TERRORISTS IF IT WERE EVER SHOWN ANY FURTHER?
Yes, Disney has its' flaws, because we are living in a dominatly Self Consuming, neglective time here in America, but HAS DISNEY EVER TOUCHED YOUR LIFE AS JOYFULLY AS IT DOES OR HAS MINE?
I WILL NEVER GO AWAY AS LONG AS THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXCEPTS ACTS OF SELLING TERRORISTS TO DISNEY, THE THING THAT WE DISNEY FANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOVING.
@Chellips from a movie called Downfall, its a German movie about his last days in the bunker before killing himself... the movie is really good. Super intense!
Also, whlie again, so much crap should be cut out and the good old stuff put back in, I like having Kim Possible there. She was one of Disney Channel's last good cartoons. The closest thing they've got to "quality entertainment" on that chanel now is Pineas and Ferb. Not even close.
This would have been much better if you had not put in the filthy language.But of course,out of the abundance of the heart,the mouth speaks or types.Such language,such language.I'll never put on another life jacket again! You're gonna need a bigger boat! And a bar of soap-----for your mouth! bash me if you must,I'm used to the cusst! ha ha.
@CaptainConnorsaurus The movie clip is from Downfall, a German film about the fall of Hitler.
People take this film clip and add their own subtitles to make the film reflect something completely different (Hitler gets banned from Xbox, Hitler's car gets stolen, etc.)
Damn, Hitler and I feel the same way about something. kinda scary. He is right though, EPCOT supposed to be different, for the adults, but still cool and educational for the youngins. Imagination SUCKED and I was trying to explain to my girlfriend how cool it used to be, poor girl never saw the original
My sister and cousin will never forget it. They got sick on the Body Wars ride. Let' just say, it won't be missed by anybody in my family. If they put Mouse ears on Spaceship Earth, I'm pretty sure people will freak, including Hitler and Stalin.
I agree, they seem to have been dumbing down EPCOT over the last 10 years I have been going. The only change that is an improvement is the addition of Soaring. I saw W.E.D talking about EPCOT and his vision before he died., and what they have done seems ad odds with his vision. The living sees with the little mermaid......pah!!
hahaha i agree with hitler here. they fucking closed wonders of life and they just leave it there!! but the man at the beginning was very smart; you should always start with Soarin'! The lines there are incredibly long! I could just imagine hitler going up and cursing in german bc of the height!
That's not going to happen, they are moving foward wich they need to do, I work there and there are no plans at all to go back. IF they do, it would be updated or changed dramatically and wouldn't be the same.
does it really matter? who are you the internet police? by gods rember when the internet was lawless and free? when you could do just about anything regardless of national borders? now everywhere i look its "is that legal?" or "you cannot watch this video in your nation" i live in god damn canada! there are no borders on the net.... at least there shouldn't be.. crist! mind your own god damn streams and don't tell this poster what they can or can not post
Exactly how I feel. Poor EPCOT. I loved you. I really did. You affected my soul in ways that are hard to describe. Now I bequeath you to your new target market: 5 year olds.
@rohirrim11rider I agree...whomever put this together has a great insight into what made EPCOT great. Shame about the cursing but I have to agree with what has been done. I liked EPCOT without all the cutesy links to every cartoon critter that Disney created. Why couldnt the EPCOT brand have continued to stand for Innovation, science, environment and infotainment or edutainment. For the cute things we have MK...right?
EXCUSE ME??? THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC! THEY HAVE TO PUT TALKING SCREENS! but, wonders of life....sniff..... WHY WONDERS OF LIFE?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!!?!?!?! SOME OF THE BEST ATTRACTIONS!!!!!!! OBAMA SHOULD PICK HIS OWN NOSE!!!
so what? it was a comedy! even tho.... O_o the strangest thing that was @ WDW! so, ok, ur right! but i enjoyed it.... but i wasn't thinking about the making of me, i was thinking about body wars, frontiers, and the food! MAINLY Cranium Command!
I actually like Eric Idle., 'say no more...nudge nudge' but I hate what they are doing to EPCOT and I have only been going for the last 9 years. I do miss Wonders of Life
How freakin true!!!! They forgot to tell Hitler they changed Spaceship Earth too!!! They ruined that ride without Walter Cronkite!!!! FUCKING ERIC IDLE!!!!!!!!
English: awesome. I love this. And I actually speak German, so I tried listening to translate what they were really saying, but unfortunately they were speaking way too fast and their accents were hard to understand. (At least Hitler's.)
Deutsch: Ausgezeichnet. Ich liebe dieses. Und eigentlich, spreche ich Deutsch, deshalb ich versuchte zu hören, was sie eigentlich gesagt haben. Aber leider, haben sie zu schnell gesprochen, und ihre Akzenten war zu schwer zu verstehen. (Wenigstens Hitlers.)
"Try listening to what they did to Horizons without crying!" Ah, that hit the mark.
Zilch79 2 months ago
Eric Idle wasn't/isn't bad...it was the appalling script that ruined it.
Clay3613 3 months ago
"before we know there will be mouse ears on spaceship earth!" - Hitler
justjohnny05 3 months ago
@justjohnny05
NEWSFLASH - Hitler REALLY NEVER said that. It's amazing how far the new era of slander has come.
It makes me sick as a Disney Fan and Past Guest for 5 Times since 1983 that you would even praise this kind of video. It's amazing how slander and fearmongering can merge politics with Disney.
We already have Politics merging with Disney when it comes to a number of politicians who wanna financially neglect its' citizens who are also CONSUMERS. A. ABC w/ the E/I Mark.
- Dwight
djthereplay 3 months ago
@djthereplay You are one really sick puppy get some therapy. Its called satire and entertainment for those that have an IQ higher than the speed limit.
justjohnny05 3 months ago
@justjohnny05
SATIRE AND ENTERTAINMENT? Like Disney doesn`t entertain us enough?
Have YOU lost your EVER-Loving mind, or the part of your mind that loves ANYTHING for that matter?
Am I a sick puppy because I`m a Disney Fan who would never dream of making a video so repulsive, that it would stand ANY chance of possibly selling a terrorist to Disney, and I HAVE A DEEP - SEEDED HATRED OF SUCH ACTS AS THIS WHO COME FROM THOSE WHO EVEN MENTION ANYTHING DISNEY?
Cont'd on my next post.
- Dwight
djthereplay 3 months ago
@justjohnny05
Cont'd from my last post.
If I`m a sick puppy for speaking out against such repulsive acts like this, then I SURE Don`t want to be cured, nor do I need ANY kind of therapy.
If ME Speaking out against deplorable acts such as this as a Disney Fan since I was 4 YEARS OLD in 1983 is WRONG, then AS LONG AS I HAVE A LOVE FOR DISNEY OR ANYTHING ELSE POSITIVE IN THIS COUNTRY, I WILL NEVER EVER BE RIGHT !!!!
- Dwight
djthereplay 3 months ago
I can agree with everything Htiler says about Dinsey,Technology and pop culture,because it's %100 funny and true
Hieagandaus 7 months ago
what is the name of the movie? I mean duh i know what it is but I fogt the name If anyone know thanks. I miss the old Epcot
jgirgis81 7 months ago
Anyone else feel bad for agreeing with Hitler?
Pingmeister1985 7 months ago
One of the best versions I've seen...
Everything that was stated is sadly, true...
evolutioninexistence 8 months ago 2
l dont think this is what Hitlers original complaints were about Epcot Center...
Originally Epcot Centre was to be underground. and Hitler was invading from above ground
livelylunatic 8 months ago
@projectxblog
Please, Let's be careful with these Hitler / Disney Connection refrence Videos.
I am an avid Disney Fan, and I am sometimes afraid that too much of this can lead to Disney being seen in almost a total bad light by some people.
I cannot stand for that to happen. Whatever the critique you have with the parks, we can talk about it. I have critiques too. But, at least we are talking about something good. Please, try to keep away from posting or making videos like this.
- Dwight
djthereplay 9 months ago
@djthereplay
Everything in this video is funny because it's true - to the extent that people who mourn classic EPCOT Center are almost nazis in their purism for the place. IRONY. Also, Disney hated the Jews....so....
But seriously, coming from a cast member...lighten the hell up. Disney already has a bad rap as the evil conglomerate of the world.
Vinya 6 months ago
@Vinya
First off, Disney NEVER hated ANYBODY and Disney hates NOBODY TO THIS DAY.
Second off, Where was this when I had my first visit to a Disney Park back in 1983?
That's right, Where were you when I visited Walt Disney World in the Spring of 1983 and I saw the Castle for the first time, and it touched my life with joy ..... FOREVER?
You're right, Disney got a bad rap, but it certainly was not from making fruitful, entertaining, amusement product.
- Dwight
djthereplay 6 months ago
@Vinya
Personally, WHY WOULD YOU AS SOMEONE WHO WORE OR WEARS THE NAME DISNEY EVERYDAY COULD EVER BE AMUSED BY THIS KIND OF VIDEO THAT BASICALLY ALMOST PROMOTES DISNEY TO TERRORISTS IF IT WERE EVER SHOWN ANY FURTHER?
Yes, Disney has its' flaws, because we are living in a dominatly Self Consuming, neglective time here in America, but HAS DISNEY EVER TOUCHED YOUR LIFE AS JOYFULLY AS IT DOES OR HAS MINE?
Please, Think about this.
- Dwight
djthereplay 6 months ago
@djthereplay GO AWAY
justjohnny05 3 months ago
@justjohnny05
I WILL NEVER GO AWAY AS LONG AS THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXCEPTS ACTS OF SELLING TERRORISTS TO DISNEY, THE THING THAT WE DISNEY FANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOVING.
- Dwight
djthereplay 3 months ago
What movie is the Hitler clip from?
Chellips 11 months ago
@Chellips from a movie called Downfall, its a German movie about his last days in the bunker before killing himself... the movie is really good. Super intense!
irockyoursox 8 months ago
damn hitler makes some good points here
domincfh 1 year ago
Also, whlie again, so much crap should be cut out and the good old stuff put back in, I like having Kim Possible there. She was one of Disney Channel's last good cartoons. The closest thing they've got to "quality entertainment" on that chanel now is Pineas and Ferb. Not even close.
Spazaliciouschick 1 year ago
While I agree with a lot of this..........*getsrealllyquiet* I like Eric Idle............
Spazaliciouschick 1 year ago
This would have been much better if you had not put in the filthy language.But of course,out of the abundance of the heart,the mouth speaks or types.Such language,such language.I'll never put on another life jacket again! You're gonna need a bigger boat! And a bar of soap-----for your mouth! bash me if you must,I'm used to the cusst! ha ha.
thecoolestdad 1 year ago
I miss the Living Seas....
Reyrocksall 1 year ago
I never knew I had so much in common with Hitler.
zideaz 1 year ago
epcot was crap, went there in june
raikkonenowns1 1 year ago
Seriously now, fucking Eric Idle.
FractalBolt 1 year ago
This needs to be reposted
wwrgsww 1 year ago
is this from something? its fucking hilarious :D
CaptainConnorsaurus 1 year ago
@CaptainConnorsaurus The movie clip is from Downfall, a German film about the fall of Hitler.
People take this film clip and add their own subtitles to make the film reflect something completely different (Hitler gets banned from Xbox, Hitler's car gets stolen, etc.)
AdrenalineAddict610 1 year ago
Damn, Hitler and I feel the same way about something. kinda scary. He is right though, EPCOT supposed to be different, for the adults, but still cool and educational for the youngins. Imagination SUCKED and I was trying to explain to my girlfriend how cool it used to be, poor girl never saw the original
justfinger 1 year ago
OMG i love you!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA hilarious and sadly true at the same time!!!! Great work!!!! Very clever!
RequiemBell104 1 year ago
LOLOL. For once I agree with HItler.
cecilteapot 1 year ago
-PHEW!- I thought everyone forgot about the wonders of life! :')
funspot101 1 year ago
My sister and cousin will never forget it. They got sick on the Body Wars ride. Let' just say, it won't be missed by anybody in my family. If they put Mouse ears on Spaceship Earth, I'm pretty sure people will freak, including Hitler and Stalin.
vigo894 1 year ago
what about the making of me, cranium command, goofy about health, anacomical players, and pure & simple cafe? :(
funspot101 1 year ago
HOLY CRAP! THIS! MADE MY DAY!!!!!!!!!
MissNascar48 1 year ago
fucking hilarious
SefMags 1 year ago
This is AMAZING!!!
yellowrainslicker 2 years ago
Every time I watch this it gets better. It says everything I am thinking when I go to EPCOT, and its very odd that Hitler is the one saying it.
darthgrady 2 years ago
Funny as hell! Well done
23mistakes 2 years ago
This is very well done.
kuetmr 2 years ago
This is the greatest thing I've ever seen.
So many different references. haha
fgyu4 2 years ago
I agree, they seem to have been dumbing down EPCOT over the last 10 years I have been going. The only change that is an improvement is the addition of Soaring. I saw W.E.D talking about EPCOT and his vision before he died., and what they have done seems ad odds with his vision. The living sees with the little mermaid......pah!!
HarryAardvark 2 years ago
1:11 "They go and rape imagination itself".
Beer shoots through nose.
aidanqn 2 years ago 2
ahahahahhaahha I'm going to work there...
MrIctus 2 years ago
I haven't been to EPCOT since 1989!
('Wonders of life' had just opened.)
AtheistOrphan 2 years ago
@AtheistOrphan Now you should know that WoL has closed but the building is only used for special events.
mcog2006 2 years ago
hahaha i agree with hitler here. they fucking closed wonders of life and they just leave it there!! but the man at the beginning was very smart; you should always start with Soarin'! The lines there are incredibly long! I could just imagine hitler going up and cursing in german bc of the height!
EPCOTCenterJeffrey 2 years ago
So true
Smithfilmproductions 2 years ago
Best one yet
MatthewPearse 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Is this from a movie with different subtitles?
samthelegoman1 2 years ago
haha halarious and so true!!
robinscute12345 2 years ago 2
Spot on Hitler. Can't we all get a petition going or something to get them to return it to the way it was??
Fugsy07 2 years ago
That's not going to happen, they are moving foward wich they need to do, I work there and there are no plans at all to go back. IF they do, it would be updated or changed dramatically and wouldn't be the same.
PLeyava 2 years ago
Is this copyrighted? Well, it's from a movie.
scottie5129 2 years ago
It is used as a parody, which is therefore under US law, considered to be fair use.
imanerd36 2 years ago
does it really matter? who are you the internet police? by gods rember when the internet was lawless and free? when you could do just about anything regardless of national borders? now everywhere i look its "is that legal?" or "you cannot watch this video in your nation" i live in god damn canada! there are no borders on the net.... at least there shouldn't be.. crist! mind your own god damn streams and don't tell this poster what they can or can not post
Montork 2 years ago
He should have said something about the German Pavilion just for the heck of it.
But serious omg that was quite funny XD. And you can tell how recent the info is, which is great!
HiroyukiNishino 2 years ago
That just about says it all.
ricktv420 2 years ago 2
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omg122448 2 years ago
IM A EPCOT MAN LOLOLOLOLOL
lol acronym for epcot mean evil people cant open toilets LOL
JohnnyDandMe55 2 years ago
Exactly how I feel. Poor EPCOT. I loved you. I really did. You affected my soul in ways that are hard to describe. Now I bequeath you to your new target market: 5 year olds.
SquishyAndBobcat 2 years ago 3
@SquishyAndBobcat ahmen epcot pwned and now it is bad fuck u disney i fucking loved dreamfinder
mutranrules 1 year ago
@SquishyAndBobcat Epcot is just as fun now than it was 10 years ago.
Calm the fuck down
bengalguy88 1 year ago
Wow Hitler has all of the exact EPCOT complaints that I do! Disney has raped the originality out of its own park.
rohirrim11rider 2 years ago 9
@rohirrim11rider I agree...whomever put this together has a great insight into what made EPCOT great. Shame about the cursing but I have to agree with what has been done. I liked EPCOT without all the cutesy links to every cartoon critter that Disney created. Why couldnt the EPCOT brand have continued to stand for Innovation, science, environment and infotainment or edutainment. For the cute things we have MK...right?
HarryAardvark 7 months ago
OMG SOOOO FUNNY
kylosme 2 years ago 2
HILARIOUS! And so true!!!!!
figment34786 2 years ago 2
should i laugh of cry? lol i was outragrd about horizons, too!
nick198222 2 years ago 2
Very well done. I hate to say it but that's about how I reacted when I found out about Horizones.
nwana1977 2 years ago
Never knew I had so much in common with Hitler. Interesting....
DisCMAlyssa 2 years ago 2
HAHA! That was hilarious! Absolutely brilliant.
emmyymichelle 2 years ago
It is so great to know i am not alone. Disney used to be awesome and inspiring. Now it is a crap saturday morning cartoons ad
davewasbaloo 2 years ago 3
EXCUSE ME??? THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC! THEY HAVE TO PUT TALKING SCREENS! but, wonders of life....sniff..... WHY WONDERS OF LIFE?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!!?!?!?! SOME OF THE BEST ATTRACTIONS!!!!!!! OBAMA SHOULD PICK HIS OWN NOSE!!!
funspot101 2 years ago
lol, Disney explains sex
3minutegeektips 2 years ago
so what? it was a comedy! even tho.... O_o the strangest thing that was @ WDW! so, ok, ur right! but i enjoyed it.... but i wasn't thinking about the making of me, i was thinking about body wars, frontiers, and the food! MAINLY Cranium Command!
funspot101 2 years ago
LOL See that? You like EPCOT Center, you support Hitler! XD
Dragonrider1227 2 years ago
Well now I know that Hitler and I agree on many points. ;) Hilarious!
Smilee306 2 years ago
Amazing. 4 stars
a5dr3 2 years ago
funny stuff
originalhellchild 2 years ago
Very funny!
disneydanauk 2 years ago
fucking brilliant dude! :D
meowman9 2 years ago
I actually like Eric Idle., 'say no more...nudge nudge' but I hate what they are doing to EPCOT and I have only been going for the last 9 years. I do miss Wonders of Life
HarryAardvark 2 years ago
You wouldn't like him in the Imagination ride.. not the slightest bit funny.
whateverwhocares2 2 years ago
How freakin true!!!! They forgot to tell Hitler they changed Spaceship Earth too!!! They ruined that ride without Walter Cronkite!!!! FUCKING ERIC IDLE!!!!!!!!
emthmt28 2 years ago
Do not disrespect Eric Idle, the man is hilarious
chemicalecho 2 years ago
True that.
CAPTSCRU33Y 2 years ago
Except the Irons version of Spaceship Earth was the best one. The Dench one would be good too if the script wasn't so godawful.
FigmentJedi 2 years ago 2
Instant classic!! Love it!
hockeyplayerx 2 years ago
English: awesome. I love this. And I actually speak German, so I tried listening to translate what they were really saying, but unfortunately they were speaking way too fast and their accents were hard to understand. (At least Hitler's.)
Deutsch: Ausgezeichnet. Ich liebe dieses. Und eigentlich, spreche ich Deutsch, deshalb ich versuchte zu hören, was sie eigentlich gesagt haben. Aber leider, haben sie zu schnell gesprochen, und ihre Akzenten war zu schwer zu verstehen. (Wenigstens Hitlers.)
Tanks4meSTC 2 years ago
BRAVO!!
CaptnJackSparrow 2 years ago
This is fucking awesome best stab at Disney I have seen in a long time. "Fucking Eric Idle"
bgt420 2 years ago 2
I haven't laughed that hard in such a long time. Thank you!
NtwProductionsNow 2 years ago
LOL
sarema69 2 years ago
That was awesome. Well done! His dissapointment is shared by so many!!!
estopsteve74 2 years ago
I find the concept of Hitler going to a British pub to watch fireworks hilarious.
mak13two 2 years ago
This video so spot on to the horrors that have been done to Disney World these days. :(
dragonheadthing 2 years ago 11
Its a good thing hitlers dead or izener would be screwed. He killed epcot. Horizons, the fountain of nations,cuniform plaza, and imagination..
mike122448 2 years ago
"kim possible fucking blows!" lol XD
this is so awesome.
blueravenfire 2 years ago
Haha, nice. Hurry for Classic Epcot.
destroyahdes 2 years ago
wat movie is this clip from? someone please respond
DevonDulaney 2 years ago
"Downfall" It is a German film about the last days of Hitler. It was released in either 2005 or 2006.
infancysguard 2 years ago
Highly interesting, great script!
krusher1977 2 years ago
i have to agree about 2:47
darthvadersbeefjerky 2 years ago
for the first time in my life....i'm gonna have to agree with him.
jar0fdirt63 2 years ago 2
All the 5TH Graders (im in 5th) are going to epcot this friday LOL hopefully hitler is not there LOL
miketheidiot 2 years ago
AWESOME.
motorcyclesdofly 2 years ago
Excellent .. but how could you leave out World of Motion? That was my favorite, and Test Track is dull and completely without imagination!
zz811 2 years ago 3
Just when you think they can't possible get more laughs out of the Hitler clip....
gvanderleun 2 years ago
Amazing!
EowynJane 2 years ago
that was awesome!
joncey87 2 years ago
brilliant. Sad... but true.
PatrickTnTx 2 years ago
Awesome!! And I feel the same about wonders of life.
michellekonstantine 2 years ago
That was great!
wwrgsww 2 years ago
YES! EPIC WIN!!!
jack134 2 years ago
Bill Nye, you have been served. Exquisite.
widenyourworld 2 years ago
ahhh, I love this.
It is so true! I absolutely hate what they did with Epcot.
cassandrac317 2 years ago
Oh my god, this is awesome.
lilclerk 2 years ago
Wonderful!
trishmish1212 2 years ago
genius.
Vinya 2 years ago