Catasauqua 2nd Alarm House Fire

[lep347]

Every department operates differently and has there own sop. Our engine operation at this job would be a 1 3/4 line through front door .....2nd line to top floor and a .

[crushedlt]

Nothing like Monday morning quarterbacking about a fire that was on video tape for a little over 7 minutes. Some people are such experts and comment, except for the experts. Lol

[2007muggs]

@93CFD..There's always several ways to attack a fire. The best one is the one that results in an effective stop with minimal danger to firefighters and the protection of exposures. I only know what I can see here. With an imminent flashover at the rear door and the rest as I previously stated, this is the only way I would have attacked it. I can't comment on your way because I don't know what it is.

[jchambers2586]

2 questions.

1. Why do they cut a hold in the roof?

2. take the walls down to the studs ex removing sheet rock

I have a friend who I have helped rebuild houses that caught fire all the sheet rock was on the floor.

[1LSUredneck]

@jchambers2586 1---to ventilate the smoke and hot gasses 2---we like destroying shit......Just kidding, we tear open walls etc....to check for fire extension. Nothing suck more than having to come back on a rekindle when proper overhauling will ensure the fire is completely out.Trust me, If we need to tear open a wall to check for fire, that wall is the least of your problems. Hope I helped.

[2007muggs]

Initial sizeup..3 story wood frame,,,1st floor fully involved...partial involvement 2nd floor....front porch involved and roof of porch compromised....strategy..deck gun (if available) directed on front porch......No initial interior attack....at least 2 lines directed through first floor windows......after knockdown assess interior and move in. High pressure hose? No such thing. The nozzle creates the high pressure. The other critics are inexperienced at best. NICE JOB!

[93CFD]

@2007muggs ida done the attack totally different but thats just me. everyone has an opinion both ways would work.

[marcelrotgans]

Its a good movie and those firefighter are doing a great job, but why don't they get high pressure line on those engines i think it would save a lot of hose wresling those hoses used in the movie seem to be very heavy and thick hard to handle

[cristiangonzalez761]

why the LT is attacking?

That´s its not the Attack position !

and what a hell ! thats was a complete offensive attack fire !

and why i dont see a Roof ventilation?

Lets studys guy !

[ffjsb]

@cristiangonzalez761 Maybe you should learn to speak English before you post any negative comments.

[jayay35]

@29bradh, On a fire of this size, exactly how big of an extinguisher would this person be carrying to put out the "burning debry thrown from the house???" That's gonna be a lot of empty cans creating a hazard for your fellow firefighters.

[29bradh]

what type of nozzels are those?

[gotgank]

Good call starting with a big line as 1st attack.

[dixiewife47]

What was the cause of the fire ?

[93CFD]

@dixiewife47 a flame about an inch tall hahaha...

[cmej605]

watch out for the flaming 2nd floor door!!

[AussiePegasus]

I enjoy these vids. As a volunteer firefighter in Australia, we attack house fires a bit differently here, so it's nice to see how other countries do the job. As has been said already, as long as everyone gets to go home to their loved ones and the overall task was accomplished, it's a job well done. As for the nay-sayers: you weren't there, so pipe down. If we saw a video of half these slackasses, we'd have criticisms about them too. Just look on it as always room for improvement.

Stay safe.

[bapabob]

@AussiePegasus You said your deptartment attacks house fires a bit different.....curious what you mean? What do you observe in our videos here in the USA that differs from your methods?

[AussiePegasus]

@bapabob in Australia, we typically attack the fire a lot more aggressively. Depending on fire activity and the structural integrity, we'll usually make an internal search/attack with 2 FFs in BA, hauling a 38mm (1 1/2") line. As much as possible, ventilation doesn't happen until the main knockdown is done, to minimize fire spread. We try to be showing water onto the fire within 90 seconds of pulling up at the job. There's usually a lot less ventilation done, just opening doors & windows, etc.

[Usserypackerfan2010]

INTERESTING

[kylejc215]

Very nice video.I am going to be a Cadet firefighter within 2 weeks and we get to go to fires but we can't attack them until after fire school and we get to do hose training and from the looks of the video the Hose looks pretty heavy,.!Good Job Guys!

[1LSUredneck]

There are many things, I could call out about this incident, but If those are all accountability tags hanging from most of the guys helmets, they aren't doing a damn bit of good there. Was an accountability check point even set up? Guys are inside and no one would know if a man went missing. Bad enough, you guys lost the house, don't try to lose a man. And come on WTF is up with the fire extinguisher? You have to be kidding me. Remember guys, safety first.

[29bradh]

@1LSUredneck idk if its wat these guys were doing but wen we hav structure fires we hav someone occasionally walk the exterior of the house with an extinguisher knocking down burning debry thrown from the house

[cassidysinger4]

when i think of a house fire i think of the house having a smoke or becoming a fire breathing dragon when the fire comes out of the windows its kinda cool for how i see it as a fire breathing dragon

[memphise34a]

F'ing pitiful

[tennis1984]

I can't believe that the crew at the back of the house let that fire start again. Very dangerous. Some of them seemded nervous. Train...train....train...be smart but be agressive.

[1LSUredneck]

@tennis1984 It didn't start again in the back. They pushed the fire all way through the house. The attack should have been made from the back. That family lost everything because the fire was not handled right.

[juniorskates99]

Great job getting that fire out! Nice video!

[engineboss3045]

good job overall, but one question why is the white hat towards the end of the vidoe using a water canister to fight fire with?? shouldnt that be used for overhaul??? just curious!

[12715159]

Great knockdown!

[mikbomb]

why you dont use a helicopter with water?or a plane?less water but better use of it.

[ArmyRescue2]

two things.

1. What do you use for video editing

2. Are you a firefighter?

[firtog]

@ArmyRescue2 I use final cut pro and also Pinnacle for some things and yes I am also a firefighter

[ArmyRescue2]

What is your video editor?

[93CFD]

sweet... great interior atttack...

[jman9895]

wow that was a quick knock-down

[Andyman1130]

I run with a neighboring company to Catty. As far as the criticism goes, its a volunteer company. I'm pretty sure that means they don't have to respond in split second time. They still got there and did what they could. The house was extremely involved anyhow that there was no way to save the entire house.

[808514]

A small tip and not criticism, never leave your helmet laying on the ground with it upside down.

[pyroman6000]

@808514 Yeah really- next thing you know, somebody kicks it walking by and the chase is on.

[dannyroell]

wow what the hell was going on!!!!

[PopppaBlue59]

That was a damn good knock-down considering the amount of fire they had to contend with. As long as everyone goes home in the morning....it's all good.

[Hrledood911]

I agree, first line should have been through the back to protect the back side of the house. Ventilation should have been started been started immediatley to help the guys inside. Did I see a 2 1/2 on fire attack? Overall, we all make comments but as long as a brother did not get hurt and the fire was put out then consider it a job well done!

[Andyman1130]

@Hrledood911 I agree withe the last sentence of yours but that's it.

[youjacqueline]

u all they have a tough job

[youjacqueline]

that looked like a bad 1

[youjacqueline]

was someone in there?

[sid154]

couple things .....first not a complete cluster pretty quick knock on a fast moving fire,,,,didnt see any ladders to div 2 even as FF were up there working if someone had to bail out could of been bad....drives me nuts when i see FF hitting a fire from the outside while there r crews workin inside....stay safe guys

[hernan1937]

en mi pais apagamos incendios similares con mucho menos recursos...

[bapabob]

5:55 What purpose was that hand held fire bottle being used for? That seemed like a waste of time.

[mackeo22]

LMAO at 6:24...poor Chief...

[hrdnoclfe]

and why are people getting a thumbs down for speaking facts??

[hrdnoclfe]

Coulda saved the rear of that house...first truck shoulda had a ladder up to vent! HIT IT FROM THE BACK BOYS!!

[dandoosh90]

Why were there no hoses protecting exposures? And why exactly did it take so long to vent the roof? A little sloppy, guys.

[bradvb23]

Last time I knew you wasnt suppose to push the fire throught the house. Whitch is what they did. Could have saved more if they went in the back and stoped the fire in the middle.

[Paramedicmxr]

looks pathetic to me. take that 2 1/2 around the back of the house, go in like a real fireman, and put the fire out.

[dandoosh90]

isn't a 2 1/2 kind of overkill for a house? It's too cumbersome unless it's a complete surround and drown op.

[firerig80]

@dandoosh90 No

[gotgank]

Looked like a good job to me.

[coolrider911]

man what took so long....man i wish my fire department stands around looking at the fire. oh wait we dont we go inside and save as much as we can. no reason to be standing around watching the fire.

[drcrawfs]

....If you have any questions on the way we do things just ask..I personally would more than happy to educate our neighbors and citizens on how things are done...We are there Every Monday from about 700-1000..East Ends Fire is at 512 Race St. and Southwarkes Hose and Phoenix Steam are at 338 Second St.. Come ask questions if you dont know instead of making yourself look stupid on the internet where everyone can see it..

[drcrawfs]

Woah Woah Woah... I agree with choad..he's been my captain for the past 2-3 years one engine company 212..the previous 8 years i was on ladder company 231 and rescue co 241 where choad was also a captain for a short time before going to 212.. We have the Knowledge, We have the Training..for someone who has no idea about what we do you should shut your mouth..I am an advocate for everyone having an opinion but you should be educated on the subject youre making an opinion on......

[japanesselilly12]

Catasauqua has been in debt for a few years because they built a new CHS in Northampton when the LMS couldn't be repaired. Tax payers complain because they pay the debt the school brought when they ran out of money durning the construstion. I know the fire department is all volunteer workers.They may be risking their lives while putting out fires, but atleast they could have SOME training before going out at putting the fire out. I was just voicing my opinion. Apparently, I can't on Youtube.

[XVAZ13]

One she doesn't even like twinkies and two she is not a fat cow!! One she was just writing her own opinion dipshit! And two she is right! And you know what you are pathetic for picking on a person who is also my best friend just because she has an opinion! I know why you wrote that shit it's because you have no life and the only joy you find is harrasing others it's really pathetic and don't say anything back because that will make you even more pathetic.

[722cfd]

The average firefighter puts in over 200 hours of his time a year on training. FYI the LMS is now a christian high school. Opinions are like (-*-) everybody's got one. The problem is when it comes out of the face of uninformed load mouths, empty boxcars make the most noise.

[twinboysfire52]

awesome video

[joeyp1974]

agreed 100% firemike, ive been a firefighter for 12 years and its not easy giving up family time and sleep time etc, when you get off your ass and do what we do lilly then maybe youll have a right to say something until then pipe down and shut up. to the guys fighting that fire good job, and stay safe!!

[firemike71]

Wow Japaneselilly, you sound like quite the expert, perhaps you should step away from the keyboard and join the FD, until then keep your ignorant uneducated comments to yourself. Looks to me like a good coordinated fire attack by an understaffed vol FD. Keep up the good work and stay safe.

[cfdfire1]

In response to the time that it took for the Fire Department to arrive, I have this. The department is all volunteer, therefore no one is usually staffing the station. The response times were within the National Standards and given the amount of fire that was all ready showing upon arrival, the appropriate tactics were taken. The only solution for faster response times is to go paid. Taxpayers in this town all ready are complaining about tax rates, so volunteer is the only option left.

[ANONYMOUS1747]

@cfdfire1 theres nothing wrong with volunteer

[japanesselilly12]

They stood around doing nothing but watch it burn for the longest time. They are right down the street, maybe two blocks away. What the hell took them so long to get to that house? There are so many people who live right there. You'd think as soon as black smoke came out of the roof, they would call into the fire department. They did, but the firemen got there when te house was ENGULFED in flames. How long doesit take to get ready? The poor people who lived there lost everything. Dumbassism

[arohn2007]

I agree. It was over a minute into the video and it looked like they hadn't attempted to put water on it at all

[iTripleDoggDareYa]

okay, they didnt put water on it because they cant hop off their trucks and immediately drop water on it. im a 17 year old volunteer, i havent even gone through fire school yet and i know that it doesnt work like that. it takes a minute or 2 to advance hoseline and connect it to a source of water like a hydrant or a tanker. so shut up and appreciate what we do and how we put our lives on the line before you open you fucking mouth and put down men and women who give their lives to protect YOU.

[722cfd]

The time from dispatch to 1st truck on scene is 6 min. The reason the fire took off is because of the materials used to remodel the house, and the fact that the occupant had 2 ceiling fans and a floor fan left turned on when she left the house.

Since your the expert, who was standing around? The RIT Team, the manpower pool, the sector officers, the command post, or the junior firefighters and candidates who had yellow front pieces on their helmets? Sign at the station and pick up your gear.

[phirefighter515]

Nicely put. I like the comment "sign at the station and pick up your gear." I will have to remember that one. And I agree that 6 minutes from original dispatch to 1st truck on scene is a good time. They aren't 2 blocks away. They are 12 blocks down and 4 blocks in from the fire. The people that comment the videos before they know the facts amuse me.

[52Fire]

why would u use a water exstinguisher and remember to hold the hose other then that good video

[nickelaz]

wow, what a mess.

[Skankpronger]

guy lost control of his hose at 6:24  lol

[kamateq]

What's that guy around 5:50 - 6:10 spraying on the building?

[brettfirefighter129]

PW Can (Presureized Water) AKA Water Can

[1075fdny]

PW lol - its the "CAN"

[brettfirefighter129]

lol that too..

[7089540230]

great video!

[ss16productions]

awesome!

[HCDDWarhero]

What is the difference, if there is any, between the firefighters with red reflactive tape on their suites and the ones wiht green reflective tape on their suites?

[ryanmalitsch]

Different Stations.

[nayr1010]

yep sounded like they actually needed to put a little water on it but idk cant hear anything now

[tanker051]

this just got hit out for a rekindle