I just had to come back and watch again... I watched the links as well. I truly enjoyed this as I do the mundane as well. I believe there are still exciting folks on YOUTUBE they are just not featured and burried... but we can find them... and shoot, maybe you Tom are drawing some of them out :-) no drama from me. Thanks so much for your posts. *****
Thanks for coming back and for both of your comments, tom. The system here is rigged against everyday people. Not that we're everyone's cup of tea, to be sure, but YT has not enabled vloggers to discover and appreciate one another. I guess that means we need to do it ourselves!
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave-owners will get together and employ new slaves for the specific purpose and function of putting on people's pants for them in the morning.. Okay I've gone too far...
Well, if you can ever sneak past our crack border security people, you might actually get to SEE the red hills of Georgia some day. Your experience still pisses me off a great deal!
Yeah lets hope so Tom. One day. A lot of red tape to wade through first unfortunately before they'll let me back in. Wheels are in motion though.. slow motion it feels like.. but motion nonetheless :)
excellent commentary. I've been taking an unscheduled announced breather from not just YT but everything...we get so used to our senses being constantly stimulated in contemporary society that we forget the mundane is the recharging mechanism for the Next Big Thing, which seems to happen every five minutes now. Personally I have to retreat into the seemingly mundane to restore a sense of self and wonder. On that note I'm reading a lot again, great poem...
I feel like YouTube has taken me away from the ordinary. Before I retired I always tried to accept jobs that would help expand my enthusiasm. BY (before YT) the internet and reading blogs was becoming mundane too. I started watching Google Videos first, and then as I have mentioned in videos -- "I discovered YT. For approximately. 2 years it hasn't been mundane, but I fear that day is aproaching.
Perhaps we have different notions about the meaning of "mundane." For me, it means everyday people talking about their everyday lives, not trying to emulate the patterns of presentation and behavior seen in entertainment media. Those "media memes" are what distinguish "authentic" vs. "media-like" communication, for me. Authentic behavior is mundane, in my book, while media-like aims as extraordinary. Kinda like the difference between a real laugh and a laughtrack laugh. Thanks, Frank.
On a personal level you are correct Tom But sadly the mundane [don't] build mega sits like YouTube. Who needs that? Evidentially we do. Or I guess I do at this particular time.
I agree that poets are masters of the mundane, and I also feel photographers often do this visually, showing us a new or amplified perception of common things, people and events. I've often found myself saying that photographers can 'find the poetry' in these things. Many vloggers, in their own way, allowed the mundane to become interesting by synthesizing their experiences to their essence and effect, much like observational comedy or a good editorial.
100% correct. Poets are not the only masters of the mundane. Others, like the ones you mention, also reveal the hidden elements in the mundane in ways that help us appreciate the things we normally overlook. Thanks.
I am pretty sure the president has to sleep with clothes on just in case the phone rings at 3 AM.
Can you define how renetto's new site (he seemed to define it that way) will be better for users than YT? He talks about a portal to web based community sites. a googler as it were for video content. Is that the big idea?
Much of the problem with thoroughbreds is that they are raced a year too soon, before their legs are fully developed. Attempts to ban this practice has failed. On the subject of vlogging, I think I am going to do a video on that, myself.
Dude, it's a horse...who gives a shit...cry me a river. Let's see this much talk about a man who was wrongly put on death row, or about cyclone victims or anything else that actually matters in the world. It's a horse, not a person, it's not worth the time. Besides, the bitch didn't even win. Actually, I think that they should start euphanizing horses that perform poorly in the race. Give them some incentive to run faster. Fuck horses.
What a nice thing to do to me, Tom! Usually, I can wrap myself around what you are saying - and we have had conversations to prove it - but I guess lethargy had the better of me this time! Hehe!
Oh, I completely concur. It's been fantastic to watch the resurgence of poetry (it was almost gone by the early 90s), powered by hip hop and slams. Thanks for the comment.
Well, I'm not sure I completely agree that poetry was ever "almost gone" or "powered by" those things... but I completely appreciate your overall points. Poetry is the essence of communication and resonates like no other communication can (whether the recipient is completely aware or not).
Robert Haas, that's a very Dutch name, I'm sure his heritage is Dutch.
I agree completely. The first people to vlog on youtube liked it because its mundane-ness made it special. Now youtube is much more popular, most people on here want the extraordinary. That's why people are complaining about how the site is boring to them. This extraordinary is mediocre, as paradoxical as that might sound, the mundane is more exciting than the mediocre extraordinary entertainment we already have on TV.
Exactly: the extraordinary is mediocre. It is in the mundane details that we live and appreciate one another's lives. This is very hard for many to comprehend. Thanks. Hi to Holland!
I think it is the mundane-ness that helps us to connect w/people because when all is said and done, that is something we all have in common. I'd prefer to be one of the horses lazily grazing flapping my tail. for me, it's having fun w/friends but I do like to try to show a more creative side; not for numbers, but just for me and my friends. great vlog. loved the racehorse analogy.
Thanks. Your comment reflects, again, how powerful these everyday connections are, as they encourage us to explore our creativity as we see others, fellow mundane-living people, do the same.
Aside from people chasing big events, there are also market forces at work on YT. Certain people are just more attractive in any of a number of ways and their channels become popular. They "supply" something the viewers "demand."
Another point, there is a continuum of channels in various stages of their popularity arc on YT. For every Paperlilies who has found popularity and now must deal with all it brings, there is a rising YouTubeStar like JustStirCrazy - a very interesting channel!
Yes, Kenny, the forces that shape popularity on YT are the forces at work in our society at large. Of course we should expect people to make videos that satisfy the demands of the market. It's time for a place that also does something else. I'll check out JustStirCrazy. Thanks.
this is a very difficult poem for me to understand "TO RESEMBLE AWE OR FEAR", what is this? Awe in a bird i understand: but fear, was it a big bird? " ITS ELSEWHERE NOW", is this an appreciation of simple things, or the mundane made exciting, understood in a personal way and only to one that see and hears it. Was it a discovery, not of major proportion, but an awakening that smiply says there is more to this than water carrying and wood chopping?
The size of big events increases in direct proportion to the growing emptiness we feel inside as a society. YouTube reflects that. It may be the YouTube community, but it is still part of a larger community that is suffering from a lack of meaning and purpose.
Nice way of looking at it. Though, those who are "famous" on youtube are less likely to share their mundane with us, as they did in the beginning, so even though it's still a factor, it's probably why so many here turn on people who gain more subs than they do. I just believe it's a matter of you determining your own involvement and then getting out what you put in. I choose to be heavily involved and I am able to take a lot out of that via friendships, connections, networking & relationships.
That's the point, Alan. People here want to shine and want to do so by going beyond the mundane; being spectacular, being stars. It's the fame meme that's come calling. Thanks.
i dont know whaat your talking about but i like your shirt... you know i love you and am a fan, but sometimes, a girls gotta drink. and when that occurs, i have to leave comments about apparall. dammit, beer makes me not be able to spell.
Love that phrase, "the technicians of the sacred." It highlights the connection between things - techne and sacre - not normally associated with one another. This, of course, is exactly what poets do. Thanks.
The drive for more Events is in part an attempt to find meaning in something greater when all the meaning we need should be found right at home in the mundane. (Wait, did I just say that Wizard of Oz has all the answers? That's probably about right.)
your gay
repop123 1 year ago
I just had to come back and watch again... I watched the links as well. I truly enjoyed this as I do the mundane as well. I believe there are still exciting folks on YOUTUBE they are just not featured and burried... but we can find them... and shoot, maybe you Tom are drawing some of them out :-) no drama from me. Thanks so much for your posts. *****
sillysillytom 3 years ago
Thanks for coming back and for both of your comments, tom. The system here is rigged against everyday people. Not that we're everyone's cup of tea, to be sure, but YT has not enabled vloggers to discover and appreciate one another. I guess that means we need to do it ourselves!
tlg847 3 years ago
Focusing on the Mundane? That sounds A LOT like Canadian TV, or the CBC. It is possible [trust me] to get sick of this sort of focus though.
dexarouskies 3 years ago
Hi, Garry. Well, if the focus has a poetic element to it, we usually don't get sick of it. On the other hand, not everyone's a poet! Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
I am present. This place aint boring to me. 5* not that stars are important, unless your running for the cup :-)
sillysillytom 3 years ago
If I ever get fame I'm having someone put my pants on for me damnit. :) You just try and stop me Tom :)
DrLemur 3 years ago
We all need dreams, Dan!
8^)
tlg847 3 years ago
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave-owners will get together and employ new slaves for the specific purpose and function of putting on people's pants for them in the morning.. Okay I've gone too far...
DrLemur 3 years ago
Well, if you can ever sneak past our crack border security people, you might actually get to SEE the red hills of Georgia some day. Your experience still pisses me off a great deal!
tlg847 3 years ago
Yeah lets hope so Tom. One day. A lot of red tape to wade through first unfortunately before they'll let me back in. Wheels are in motion though.. slow motion it feels like.. but motion nonetheless :)
DrLemur 3 years ago
I keep missing The Next Big Things - or maybe I am not looking for them?
powerful vid Tom. xx
LeSaMilano 3 years ago
Next big thing highly overrated! I'd say, leave them alone! Just have fun... Thanks, Les. Hi to Brian.
tlg847 3 years ago
excellent commentary. I've been taking an unscheduled announced breather from not just YT but everything...we get so used to our senses being constantly stimulated in contemporary society that we forget the mundane is the recharging mechanism for the Next Big Thing, which seems to happen every five minutes now. Personally I have to retreat into the seemingly mundane to restore a sense of self and wonder. On that note I'm reading a lot again, great poem...
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
Sounds like an enjoyable exercise, jr. Nowadays, the Next Big Thing is over and done before it even arrives. Thanks. Enjoy the reading.
tlg847 3 years ago
Next Big Things are now everyday occurances and if I miss a few...eh!
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
You got that right, jr.
tlg847 3 years ago
HI jr!!
LeSaMilano 3 years ago
Hi Lesley!
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
Fantastic video.
I agree entirely, i find it amazing that some people see the world completely different almost to us average joes.
Thanks for the video Tom.
Liam.
LiamBelk1 3 years ago
We certainly do see things differently from one another, which is what makes video such a powerful communicative medium. Thanks for the comment.
tlg847 3 years ago
I feel like YouTube has taken me away from the ordinary. Before I retired I always tried to accept jobs that would help expand my enthusiasm. BY (before YT) the internet and reading blogs was becoming mundane too. I started watching Google Videos first, and then as I have mentioned in videos -- "I discovered YT. For approximately. 2 years it hasn't been mundane, but I fear that day is aproaching.
Frank
ockteby 3 years ago
Perhaps we have different notions about the meaning of "mundane." For me, it means everyday people talking about their everyday lives, not trying to emulate the patterns of presentation and behavior seen in entertainment media. Those "media memes" are what distinguish "authentic" vs. "media-like" communication, for me. Authentic behavior is mundane, in my book, while media-like aims as extraordinary. Kinda like the difference between a real laugh and a laughtrack laugh. Thanks, Frank.
tlg847 3 years ago
On a personal level you are correct Tom But sadly the mundane [don't] build mega sits like YouTube. Who needs that? Evidentially we do. Or I guess I do at this particular time.
Frank
ockteby 3 years ago
I agree that poets are masters of the mundane, and I also feel photographers often do this visually, showing us a new or amplified perception of common things, people and events. I've often found myself saying that photographers can 'find the poetry' in these things. Many vloggers, in their own way, allowed the mundane to become interesting by synthesizing their experiences to their essence and effect, much like observational comedy or a good editorial.
CanadianNinjaMonkey 3 years ago
100% correct. Poets are not the only masters of the mundane. Others, like the ones you mention, also reveal the hidden elements in the mundane in ways that help us appreciate the things we normally overlook. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
one again... awesome, thank you!*****
sillysillytom 3 years ago
Thanks, Tom.
tlg847 3 years ago
MIKMA WAS HERE
mikma 3 years ago
Yo, Mik!
tlg847 3 years ago
I am pretty sure the president has to sleep with clothes on just in case the phone rings at 3 AM.
Can you define how renetto's new site (he seemed to define it that way) will be better for users than YT? He talks about a portal to web based community sites. a googler as it were for video content. Is that the big idea?
say it aint so.
Peace.
cambridgee 3 years ago
It ain't so. More to come.
tlg847 3 years ago
Much of the problem with thoroughbreds is that they are raced a year too soon, before their legs are fully developed. Attempts to ban this practice has failed. On the subject of vlogging, I think I am going to do a video on that, myself.
Perroquet51 3 years ago
Racing two year olds is no longer a safe practice, seems to me. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
Dude, it's a horse...who gives a shit...cry me a river. Let's see this much talk about a man who was wrongly put on death row, or about cyclone victims or anything else that actually matters in the world. It's a horse, not a person, it's not worth the time. Besides, the bitch didn't even win. Actually, I think that they should start euphanizing horses that perform poorly in the race. Give them some incentive to run faster. Fuck horses.
ddss6 3 years ago
Dude, did you watch my Eight Belles, James Woodward video?
tlg847 3 years ago
Thank goodness for the poets!
pcrudup 3 years ago
Amen!
tlg847 3 years ago
Sometimes you make me think so hard, I can't come up with a reply :-)
Marihani 3 years ago
I know what you mean, the advantage of youtube is you can pause, rewind and watch it again, and digest it at your own pace.
funkwurm 3 years ago
I'm very pleased that you would think to do that with one of my videos.
tlg847 3 years ago
I did! I suppose I was too tired, I just couldn't wrap my head around it!
Marihani 3 years ago
What a nice thing to say! Thanks, Marihani.
tlg847 3 years ago
What a nice thing to do to me, Tom! Usually, I can wrap myself around what you are saying - and we have had conversations to prove it - but I guess lethargy had the better of me this time! Hehe!
Thanks for making me think! It's my fav thing!
Marihani 3 years ago
My pleasure!
tlg847 3 years ago
Poetry can be found in many a place and it's quite possible that we are all poets for someone, whether we know it or not.
Thanks for this vid!
Sh4zor 3 years ago
Oh, I completely concur. It's been fantastic to watch the resurgence of poetry (it was almost gone by the early 90s), powered by hip hop and slams. Thanks for the comment.
tlg847 3 years ago
Well, I'm not sure I completely agree that poetry was ever "almost gone" or "powered by" those things... but I completely appreciate your overall points. Poetry is the essence of communication and resonates like no other communication can (whether the recipient is completely aware or not).
Thanks again,
S
Sh4zor 3 years ago
Robert Haas, that's a very Dutch name, I'm sure his heritage is Dutch.
I agree completely. The first people to vlog on youtube liked it because its mundane-ness made it special. Now youtube is much more popular, most people on here want the extraordinary. That's why people are complaining about how the site is boring to them. This extraordinary is mediocre, as paradoxical as that might sound, the mundane is more exciting than the mediocre extraordinary entertainment we already have on TV.
funkwurm 3 years ago
Exactly: the extraordinary is mediocre. It is in the mundane details that we live and appreciate one another's lives. This is very hard for many to comprehend. Thanks. Hi to Holland!
tlg847 3 years ago
I think it is the mundane-ness that helps us to connect w/people because when all is said and done, that is something we all have in common. I'd prefer to be one of the horses lazily grazing flapping my tail. for me, it's having fun w/friends but I do like to try to show a more creative side; not for numbers, but just for me and my friends. great vlog. loved the racehorse analogy.
tunisianswife 3 years ago
Thanks. Your comment reflects, again, how powerful these everyday connections are, as they encourage us to explore our creativity as we see others, fellow mundane-living people, do the same.
tlg847 3 years ago
Aside from people chasing big events, there are also market forces at work on YT. Certain people are just more attractive in any of a number of ways and their channels become popular. They "supply" something the viewers "demand."
Another point, there is a continuum of channels in various stages of their popularity arc on YT. For every Paperlilies who has found popularity and now must deal with all it brings, there is a rising YouTubeStar like JustStirCrazy - a very interesting channel!
KennyWrites 3 years ago
Yes, Kenny, the forces that shape popularity on YT are the forces at work in our society at large. Of course we should expect people to make videos that satisfy the demands of the market. It's time for a place that also does something else. I'll check out JustStirCrazy. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
Very powerful...
renetto 3 years ago
Thanks, Paul. Congrats on getting all of your videos re-posted. They're an amazing chronicle of YT's history as well as your own.
tlg847 3 years ago
I absolutely agree to your description of poets!
ogier1 3 years ago
Their power of observation and description is their gift to us. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
this is a very difficult poem for me to understand "TO RESEMBLE AWE OR FEAR", what is this? Awe in a bird i understand: but fear, was it a big bird? " ITS ELSEWHERE NOW", is this an appreciation of simple things, or the mundane made exciting, understood in a personal way and only to one that see and hears it. Was it a discovery, not of major proportion, but an awakening that smiply says there is more to this than water carrying and wood chopping?
hellorodney 3 years ago
I just posed the poem in the description, Rodney. I'm sure it will be much clearer than trying to get its meaning from my halting reading. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
The size of big events increases in direct proportion to the growing emptiness we feel inside as a society. YouTube reflects that. It may be the YouTube community, but it is still part of a larger community that is suffering from a lack of meaning and purpose.
FantasticBabblings 3 years ago 3
Thanks. Powerfully said, Phil. Good to see you the other day.
tlg847 3 years ago
im a vlogger...
and i thought k80 video was awesome
cool video - tom
**KISSES**
ASECONDCHANCEAROUND 3 years ago
Thanks, Sonia. Hope everyone in your family had a great time at the graduation.
tlg847 3 years ago
Well said Tom. You're a vital member of the community and always bringing up interesting ideas. Thanks for being here.
: )
K80Blog 3 years ago 4
Thanks, K80. Enjoyed your video a lot, as always.
tlg847 3 years ago
Great selection.
Arggie 3 years ago
Thanks, just occurred to me to add the poem to the video description, which I've just done.
tlg847 3 years ago
Interesting as always. Well said Tom. -Russ
OddRustle 3 years ago
Thanks, Russ. Gonna check out your first video on the new channel in a minute.
tlg847 3 years ago
Nice way of looking at it. Though, those who are "famous" on youtube are less likely to share their mundane with us, as they did in the beginning, so even though it's still a factor, it's probably why so many here turn on people who gain more subs than they do. I just believe it's a matter of you determining your own involvement and then getting out what you put in. I choose to be heavily involved and I am able to take a lot out of that via friendships, connections, networking & relationships.
fallofautumndistro 3 years ago
That's the point, Alan. People here want to shine and want to do so by going beyond the mundane; being spectacular, being stars. It's the fame meme that's come calling. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
i dont know whaat your talking about but i like your shirt... you know i love you and am a fan, but sometimes, a girls gotta drink. and when that occurs, i have to leave comments about apparall. dammit, beer makes me not be able to spell.
octavia9 3 years ago 2
LoL thank you for the smile....
2of6Solutions 3 years ago
That was a great comment, eh, 2/6?
tlg847 3 years ago
Yea ya know Tom I like your shirt too :-)
2of6Solutions 3 years ago
Stylin' here in CT, deuce!
tlg847 3 years ago
That was one great comment!! Thanks. Have one for me.
tlg847 3 years ago
The technicians of the sacred know how to invest the mundane with the sacred to create sacred space.
robrobbins 3 years ago 3
Love that phrase, "the technicians of the sacred." It highlights the connection between things - techne and sacre - not normally associated with one another. This, of course, is exactly what poets do. Thanks.
tlg847 3 years ago
"Masters of the mundane" - nice...
The drive for more Events is in part an attempt to find meaning in something greater when all the meaning we need should be found right at home in the mundane. (Wait, did I just say that Wizard of Oz has all the answers? That's probably about right.)
kenrg 3 years ago 2
Thanks, ken. Pay no attention to the mundane man behind the curtain!
tlg847 3 years ago