Crimson Tide: Denzel Washington vs Gene Hackman

[redlanternman]

ONE OF MY FAV MOVIES OF ALL TIMES AND HAVE SEEN IT TO MANT TO COUNT!!AND ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE AND EMOTIONAL SCENES IN MOVIE HISTORY!!!ANYONE WHO HASENT SEEN THIS MOVIES DO SOOAS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!

[daviator1027]

The radio chatter in the background is unrealistically air traffic control radio chatter. Sorry to ruin the moment.

[2010VinnieR]

2:55 is the best bit! LOL Great film - and two of my favourite actors!

[chester9435]

MR.HUNTER I'VE MADE THE DECISION, I'M CAPTAIN OF THIS BOAT, NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP!

[hpnc]

if you died tonight would you go to heaven??...1-800-78grace!!

[gforce4all]

AWESOME MOVIE!! DENZEL ROCKS AS ALWAYS!!

[Cha0sLord93]

This is a masterpiece, the sheer look of worry and horror on the crew;s faces when the two most senior men on the sub can't agree. One of the best films ever

[MadChatter17]

Ok..

[119Elite]

C.O.B. means Chief of the Boat...such as well a Command Master Chief..an E-9 with superior leadership skills commissioned by the Secretary of Defense...Hoooooraaah Command Master Chief....

[119Elite]

Sure Mr.SSSDiaz7..You have a Full Bird Captain (Hackman) and a Lieutenant Commander (Washington), but..in a Nuclear Submarine the SOP requires a Second Officer in Command an Executive Officer and if the last one this not concur in certain sensitive issues under Naval Regulations...Yes, the Captain is in Command of the Operational status but, in under matters such the one depicted in this scene both have to concur..and that here the CO is from one era and the XO another one...Good Sailing...

[Greenlightandgo]

NOW COB!!!

[SSSDiaz7]

Can someone explain how the chain of command works and the relationship between these two in the movie, it seems like both have equal authority and both can tell the other to fuck off, it makes no sense.

[plattipuss]

From a US Submariner - Denzel is the Executive Officer (XO), essentially second in command and the "first Mate". HAckman is the Commanding Officer (CO), or skipper or captain. He is the authority on the ship, and in fact outranks Denzel by two paygrades (the eagles on Hackman's collar indicate the rank of "Captain", while Denzel has two gold oak leaves, meaning Lieutenant Commander)

[plattipuss]

HOWEVER - as on all naval vessels, the Executive Officer has the authority to relieve the Commanding Officer if he fells he is committing an unlawful act or is not of sound mind to command the ship.

BTW - this never happens. Ever. Never onboard a US submarine has an XO relieved a CO on grounds of mental or emotional capacity.

[101andrewj]

COB

[101andrewj]

only gene hackman could get away with that shit

[jj1only]

Always bet on black

[nauris708]

gene,denzel. i love it

[jbohnoff]

Best quote of the movie --- 2:55

[HappyBirthdaySANTA]

there are no winners in war............

[JamesGod08]

COB WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR!!!

[UrbanTiger74]

Two words....Fuckin INTENSE! This scene is easily in the same category with The Rock Shower Room scene.

[BlueShedMasters]

"You're not assuming anything"

[Addiskrilla]

@girlsinthehouse YES. someone (actually more than one) threw a punch.

still badass, though. Hunter was the near 21st century delicate strategist while

Ramses was all about the cavery, the sword, and the sound of the horn. DUDE.

its not as simple as it was in the old days. we're dealin wit deadlier, vicious, and

more strategically apted adversaries than ever before. Its not football where you

see them, they see you, go ham on it! (though I wish it was or else this war will

be over)

[lurchipoo]

This movie is so manly and badass that i went through puberty when I watched it as a kid

[kanguesso]

Gene Hackman and Denzel Washington, it gets no better than that.

[MrTruckergeek]

COBB, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR

[corvette200101]

CPT ramsey should have been court marshall for putting a gun to a man's head, not given an opportunity to retire. he was going to kill someone because he was a old war munger that wanted to start WW3. in my opinion thats attemped murder by threat. your position does not give you the right to murder anyone under any circumstances period. CPT ramsey should be serving 5 year in leavenworth

[plattipuss]

thumbs up if you're a United States Submariner (no non-quals)

[TheCoolchucks]

Being a former military man and I worked with missle control and things like this so I know what I am taking about. 1st. Hunter recieved a message fragment. FACT (and Cpt Ramsey said this) a launch order with out authentication is NO ORDER AT ALL!!

If a launch order is not authenticated, you do not do it. This rule was drilled into our heads time and time again.

2. Orders in hand..that means you have correct, verifyed orders and don't forget, this is the military..

[Colt2571]

@TheCoolchucks then im glad you were weren't aboard that boat, you would have started WW3...Hunter was correct

[Colt2571]

@TheCoolchucks why do you think the captain needed the XO's okay to launch the missiles in the first place??? its to avoid situations exactly like the ones the captain was about to get into, starting WW3 because he's a trigger happy cowboy, not a thinking human being.

[norcalbirdz]

Thumbs up if you always thought that "Cob" was the chief of the boat's name and didn't realize COB is an acronym for "Chief of the Boat"

[5150VanAlien]

They were both right and wrong however, the fact that the chain of command broke down due to conflicting ideologies is what the producer was trying to show that in such a circumstance, the world would be in greater risk. However, if I had to choose, I believe Denzel made the right decision. You cannot replace the ExO and the captain could not launch unless they both agreed. Plus the USA has other options to strike against the enemy. NOW COB!

[airlineplt]

Ahhh dude it's a movie. He made the decision. It's written in his script. Now shut the fuck up!

[Colt2571]

@airlineplt HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA...nice

[DimeLivesInUs]

Captain was wrong, for one, the odds of Akulas run by rebels finding all American SSBNs capable of nuclear launch are obscenely slim, it's almost a miracle that they found the Alabama. Hell I'm surprised the Alabama was within operating range of the Akula. Two, the Captain should have realized that his sub is not the only platform to launch nuclear missiles from. Redundancy extends even beyond subs, he forgets about our silos and bombers.

[akashsonu061]

denzel is the most powerful person in the world

[Antonio865]

This is a badass movie.

[MRORTIZBEATS]

fucking great movie and great scene and great actors 

[pogpog28]

Typical American Behavior Issue.

[jd1060]

@pogpog28 troll hard pal.

[LTDANMAN44]

i like when he says captain i cannot concur, and he says repeat my command!

[LTDANMAN44]

i don't know i agree with hunter here. thumbs up if you agree

[ooOmegaSupremeoo]

@LTDANMAN44

Thumbs down!

[delboy1979]

On the original EAM, it read " SUBJECT: NUCLEAR MISSILE LAUN....." before the message was cut off.

When they fixed the radio and the full message came through, it read "SUBJECT: TERMINATE LAUNCH ALL MISSILES".

A continuity error, which had the original message heading began with "terminate" before being cut off, would have made a hell of a difference to the film!

Still, I love this film; it's one of my all time favourites!!!

[gmccord1970]

I completely agree that this is the most spectacular scene in the whole movie. But I don't get Captain Ramsey's logic in this. He knew that an EAM message was sent. Just because he can't read what it says doesn't mean it should be ignored. He was presented with new information....a message fragment that needs to be investigated. XO Hunter was 100% correct in this.

[Colt2571]

@gmccord1970 exactly...the captain was being a tigger happy cowboy and not worthy of his position. as captain, you need to "make tough decisions" like he told Hunter before he was taken away...Hunter was the one who was making the tougher decision...to get the EAM message that was trying to be sent instead of starting WW3 because he's got an itchy trigger finger

[MrLantean]

@Colt2571 Perhaps Captain Ramsey wants to be a hero as a champion of democracy. Warmongers often treat war as a path to glory. XO Hunter understands that war brings nothing but death and destruction. War should be avoid at all cost and can only be fought as a final resort. Hunter is the true hero in this situation. He made the tough decision to defy the captain and to reconfirm the second message. Orders should not be blindly obliged just because the person in charges ordered it.

[Colt2571]

@MrLantean right, if an officer says "shoot yourself", which they might if they're nuts...you wouldn't just follow orders because it's a ridiculous order. Ramsey was about to launch nukes after receiving half a message that could have told them to stand down and he knew it...it was a ridiculous order so Hunter told him to go fuck himself and saved the planet. I'm tired of this whole "they were both wrong" crap...Ramsey was 100% and Hunter 100% right

[MrLantean]

@Colt2571 There are other officers that served alongside with Ramsey for many years. During those years, Ramsey was proven to be capable military commander and trusted his decisions. But this time they failed to realise that he was going to start a nuclear war by deciding to lauch nuclear missiles without proper authorization. Ramsey sees Hunter as a pomp who got his rank through examination unlike him through combat experience. Hunter decides to relieve Ramsey of his command post.

[segrad1]

One of my favorite movie scenes of all times. Two great actors displaying acting perfection in my humble opinion.

[giriisindahouse]

This is 100x more intense than Optimus Prime vs Megatron. And no one even threw a punch

[nice16j]

Denzel is the MAN!!!!



[era09]

Gene Hackman is a real man... Denzel looks like a pussy in this scene...

[drillsgtvee]

@era09

Like many in US military service, Hackman represents those "Leaders" who are blind and incompetent, and would rather enforce their own demented agenda, rather than adhere to the proper regulations and protocol demanded by military discipline.

Choosing the correct course of action takes precedence, over pounding one's chest and yelling, in which to attempt to display false bravado & 'leadership'.

[centurion180ad]

TARFU dialog, and the main plot is all wrong. The only valid part, is the fire before the main events. That said, it is an interresting character study.

D. Washington was paid more per //minute//, than what an actual executive officer of a strategic missile carrying nuclear submarine is paid in a year. Same goes for Hackman and the Captain.

America lives in a sickening banker’s fantasy horror show.

[gjohnsoningary]

Adherence to military protocol takes precidence over loyalty to your captain. The XO was correct.

[DimeLivesInUs]

"Our other subs could have been taken out by the other Akulas"

Yeah fuckin right... It's probably the only thing about the movie that bugs me.

[Ladiesman1447]

I love seeing these two titans go head to head, great characters and great actors.

[tkyang99]

3:00 poor guy is scared sh*tless LOL

[notabadguy06]

does gene hackman's character come off as racist?

[shiz777]

@notabadguy06 I doubt it, he's under the heavy stress of facing a completely annihilated America under nuclear holocaust, I think if anything he doubts Denzel due to age and experience rather than race.

[Ladiesman1447]

@notabadguy06

He does at one point in the movie, when he uses the analogy of horses, saying how all the talented ones are white. But I don't he's racist, he actually seemed to like hunter at the start, he just had an inferiority complex, he couldn't stand that a young harvard grad was questioning his authority.

[giriisindahouse]

@notabadguy06 nah. He's just a bit egoistic & thinks he knows best. It blinded him in making decisions.

[MrLantean]

@giriisindahouse The captain is an experience military commander but he is rude and arrogant. He has 'shoot first talk later' mentality. His action is only legit if the US is at war and yet he neglects to confirm whether is they are at war. The XO defies the captain because he wants to confirm the incomplete message. What the captain should do is to confirm the second incomplete message before launching the missiles.

[centurion180ad]

@MrLantean The captain pretends he's alone, that the Pacific Fleet does not exist. The XO pretends he's alone as far as shipboard regulation goes, that all he has to go on is a seat of the pants understanding.

Both are wrong.  The scenario setup is bogus. That said, it is an interresting character study as long as you don't think about it. Good for 8 bucks and some popcorn, just don't use your brain!

[Colt2571]

@MrLantean right...they had plenty of time to get up to the proper depth and get the message before the Russian missiles even had launch capability, and then see what it says, and then strike if necessary or not...the captain just wanted to be a cowboy...the XO was 100% correct.

[notabadguy06]

OUTSTANDING ACTING! 

[kameronbc21]

i got a buddy of mine who is a navy officer...i always call him COB

[Apoctank]

just finished the book, can't wait to watch the movie!

[SSSDiaz7]

EPIC scene, just wish I had the movie now that I feel like seeing it in its entirety.

[DLaShannon]

Now Cob! LMAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! if there is a funny part in this scene that would be it! I LOVE DENNY!

[DLaShannon]

Now Cob! lmaoooooo

[matkosoric]

the best part:

@4:04 - @4:15

[toophatpoyo]

THEY'RE FUELING THEIR MISSILES!!WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO FUCK AROUND!

[bapbap24]

Great chemistry between two great actors!

[hunkatiel]

P.S. If you want to turn this into a comedy, hit the cc button and transcribe audio,

@:26, All right gentlemen funeral, @:36, Naked at one point zero three, @2:09 Elaborate sister is all I'm saying, @ 2:56 I'm trapped in smoke, @ 3:11., Sure fax copier, @ 4:00 President had internet Sunday, etc, etc.

[hunkatiel]

Great scene well played by both.

[sweeneysister]

This is one of the best "my cock's bigger than yours is" scenes on film EVUH!!!

[kameronbc21]

i know a CPO in the navy..i call him COB

[yiany]

"COBB!!!"

[73dodge]

"NOW COBB!"

[pdfuster]

"CHIEF OF THE BOAT, Captain Ramsey is under arrest---LOCK him in his stateroom!"

"Captain, please..."

"NOW, COB!

[MrKonig87]

mr hunter...ive made my decision...im captain of this boat...now shut the f up

[mjrk394]

@MrKonig87 GH tells DW to shut the f**k up and punches him twice in the face in this film.

[Apoctank]

@mjrk394 i thought it was three times?

[Ladiesman1447]

@MrKonig87

lol