I'm sorry but it's Bjorn's breathtaking beauty that made this film an unforgottable classic. Visconti only had to take him to Venice and put a camera on him to make history. Bogard was an awesome actor but coudn't compete with Andrésen's magnetism and charisma.
The film differs in some important ways from Mann's book, but right these scenes are very alike. It feels like you're reading the book again (if you did read the book first). Beautiful, both book and film!
@PaulDougouba Do you always assume that the protagonist's views are perfect, or even good? The main character in this movie is pretty much an antihero. A neurotic, panicing little man that's had a hard life.
I hope for your own sake that you're not one of those people that categorize everything either into good or evil. Sexual perversion is beyond that. You don't have to love perverts, but you should understand that they are as much slaves for one's own destiny as you and me.
@fiveMIRrOrs Actually the character portrayed by the middle age guy is man's great longing to be young once again and as pretty as Tadzio! Every man or woman passes through this stage in his life. Thus, the title of the novel is very apt and correct in portraying someone who longs to be young once again! That scene in the motion picture where Tadzio was forcibly kissed by another teenager is a signal that no matter what happens life has to move on. Making love is just a process!
i was a teen when i first discovred death in venice. i fell in love with tadzio the moment i saw him. some sources said he was only 14 the time the movie was made. visconti spent more than a year searching for the perfect boy and found him in a theater for children
I knew Dirk in England in the late 60's early 70's. I do not claim to have been a close friend
but we met socially several times. I was in Venice when Dirk was there working in "Death in Venice" and he invited me and two other friends to visit him at the Hotel des Baines on the Lido, where much of the film was being shot. We saw several of the other cast members, including Bjorn Andresen the young Swedish actor.Dirk Bogarde, a lovely man.RIP.
GOD! I know the book and all, but what really gets me is that these gypsies are actually coming around everyday (theres a restaurant down in the building...) to play their fuken ditties!!! They are plaing the same shit, every FUCKING day!!! AND THEY PLAY IT BADLY! IM FUKKEN FUMING!!!!
A movie called "Forbidden Games" practically ruined the entire lives of the two child actors. I understand Andreson had a hard life. All we can do is admire the work of art.
In 10 years, all Bogarde did with his square jet set in gold was to move it from his left to his right hand....
Beautiful, even though lacking the incredible internal monologues.
that's because in Mann's Death in Venice, the singer represents one of the many messengers of death that appear throughout the story. The film actually depicts him quite accurately.
Mann was a very sophisticated author, writing on several levels. A recent, comprehensive biography would enhance understanding. Also, there are many translations of his novella. Most of the earlier ones are deficient, some quite poor. A couple of the more recent ones are much better. There also is an annotated edition available.
This particular scene is a flagrante proof of Visconti´s shallow perception of beauty and it´s opposite. Andrésen is compelled to pose in ridiculous positions, completely unnatural to a youngster, too self aware,intimdated by the threatening of his screen personality. Visconti´s cynical exploitation of an inexperienced boy actor is ugly and left scars for years. In spite of the movie´s extravagant beauty I feel aversion visavi Visconti and his assistent Zefirelli.
Funny! At 4:44 you can hear someone saying in russian "Почему? Потому, что не бегaет..." ("Pochemu? Potomu shto nje begaet" wich means "Why? Because [somebody] is not running...").
Bjorn Andresen is the personification of the pure love we all look for. Amazing movie, fullfiled of diverse interpretations, depending how you consider facts and words.
Ironically, it was Bjorn's own beauty that re-popularized Mann's highly acclaimed novella. The real "Tadzio" did not know that a film had been made about him until his childhood friend saw it in London and informed him.
@sfkcbf Sorry, no... he was at a dance in his 20s, when somebody told him that Mann had written a novel in which his family had been portrayed, but he never identified himself to Mann. When Visconti was filming in Venice, Tadzio's friend, Jaschu, appeared with old photos of himself and the real Tadzio at the Lido back in 1911
@MrMartinportnoy I'm not sure what you mean by "Sorry, no." Both postings are correct. Wladzio read a translation of the NOVELLA, obviously, long before the film was made, and then later his friend saw the FILM in London and informed him. Visconti did not want to see the adult Wladzio because Visconti knew that the youthful beauty would have been lost, and he did not want that to influence his own vision of him.
I really want to watch this film now! I wonder where I could find it :/ And the actor for Tadzio at any rate would have made a much better Anne Rice character than those un-vampiric healthy-looking guys in the movies (since when were blood-starved vampires healthy?). And having read Kaze to Ki no Uta, I can say he IS the spitting image of Gilbert! Amazing O__o Thanks so much for posting!
I just found out that there is a 90% CHANCE THAT HE IS THE INSPIRATION FOR GILBERT COCTEAU IN "KAZE TO KI NO UTA"!!!!! (This fangirl squeals w/ unbridled delight!) I read on Wikipedia that a few years after this movie was made, he traveled to Japan while "Bjorn-mania" was at it's peak and that he became the inspiration of the manga writers there, especial KEIKO TAKAMIYA, "Kaze's..." author! The first time I saw him I knew it! I love being right!
Ironically, in 2001, a writer wrote a book about the real boy who became the inspiration for Tadzio. The book is called "The Real Tadzio" (Short Books 2001) about Baron Wladyslaw Moes & was written by Gilbert Adair. I guess you could say that in art Bjorn & Gilbert's stars are intertwined! {{{{^_^}}}}
Thank you for sharing , one of my favorite scenes, I think one of the reasons is becouse actor Bjorn couldn't possibly look more gorgeous , breath taking , I have seen lots of artist using him as a model for Amadeo (One of Anne Rice characters)with the obvious changes like the hair and the color of the eyes I defenetly see it, he could make it as a young Lestat to.
I'm sorry but it's Bjorn's breathtaking beauty that made this film an unforgottable classic. Visconti only had to take him to Venice and put a camera on him to make history. Bogard was an awesome actor but coudn't compete with Andrésen's magnetism and charisma.
anniemihn 6 months ago
The film differs in some important ways from Mann's book, but right these scenes are very alike. It feels like you're reading the book again (if you did read the book first). Beautiful, both book and film!
dantebeatrice 7 months ago
this song is quite happy
kaosisuanle 9 months ago
love this scene...very effective..the man singing is perfect...like Death personified..macabre with a touch of humour!..wonderful!
TheBlueCream 1 year ago
this part is my favourite sense from the moive
zyzll 1 year ago
Bjon is so much like Ann Rice's Armand it's crazy.
soakinbleach 1 year ago
anyone knows what's on the Tadzio's mind in the movie when he keeps looking at Gustav? So curious~
rukawa9289 1 year ago
Can someone tell me if there are any big difference between the movie en the book
Thanks in advance ;)
( book is awesome)
zoiealexiou 1 year ago
The whole premise of this movie and the book behind the movie is lust toward a minor...PERIOD!!!
In the USA today...if an Adult male stalks and lusts after an underage boy...he is probably going to be arrested and questioned. Good! - he should be.
Why you queer sickos defend this movie and say it is OK to have sexual desires for a minor is BEYOND me!
All you artsy fartsy people seem to do is cloak something perverted like this in a "artistic" aura and sanctify your sickness.
PaulDougouba 1 year ago
@PaulDougouba Do you always assume that the protagonist's views are perfect, or even good? The main character in this movie is pretty much an antihero. A neurotic, panicing little man that's had a hard life.
I hope for your own sake that you're not one of those people that categorize everything either into good or evil. Sexual perversion is beyond that. You don't have to love perverts, but you should understand that they are as much slaves for one's own destiny as you and me.
fiveMIRrOrs 1 year ago
@fiveMIRrOrs Actually the character portrayed by the middle age guy is man's great longing to be young once again and as pretty as Tadzio! Every man or woman passes through this stage in his life. Thus, the title of the novel is very apt and correct in portraying someone who longs to be young once again! That scene in the motion picture where Tadzio was forcibly kissed by another teenager is a signal that no matter what happens life has to move on. Making love is just a process!
Nonie46 5 months ago
That's funny. When I encounter someone who doesn't like "Death in Venice" my exact response to them is 7:43
TheVoiceOfTruth 2 years ago
Ooohhhh! The way Tadzio stares at Aschenbach starting at 3:00! WOW! Hauntingly BEAUTIFUL!!!
luvleeamethyst 2 years ago
Dick Bogarde is such an amazing actor... and Visconti... what a genius!!! =D
sethscoot32 2 years ago 3
who is the name of last song in ?
juan7406 2 years ago
i was a teen when i first discovred death in venice. i fell in love with tadzio the moment i saw him. some sources said he was only 14 the time the movie was made. visconti spent more than a year searching for the perfect boy and found him in a theater for children
AnnaAdel 2 years ago 2
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ask him to sit with you godamnit! then maybe later you'll get to fuck his ass !
jegspillerpiano 2 years ago
My mother worked with dirk once, said that he was a lovely guy, but quite private, i just wish i met the genius.
hazzadude22 2 years ago 5
@hazzadude22
oh really? cool! what does your mom do ??
stillagunner 1 year ago
I find it interesting that Gustav and Tadzio's sensitivites and reactions appear to be similar to each other's.
Their unease was with good reason.
sfkcbf 2 years ago 3
Please do share a bit more about it. Their good reason.
migamilan 2 years ago
My comment was in response to acserphsi or whatever...
wrathofskorm 3 years ago
the singer is death itself
igla88 3 years ago 3
I knew Dirk in England in the late 60's early 70's. I do not claim to have been a close friend
but we met socially several times. I was in Venice when Dirk was there working in "Death in Venice" and he invited me and two other friends to visit him at the Hotel des Baines on the Lido, where much of the film was being shot. We saw several of the other cast members, including Bjorn Andresen the young Swedish actor.Dirk Bogarde, a lovely man.RIP.
BerlinBunker1 3 years ago
i agree, that is so awesome. i wish i could go back in time to those days when creativity was at such a high.
jealous!
2dboy 3 years ago
GOD! I know the book and all, but what really gets me is that these gypsies are actually coming around everyday (theres a restaurant down in the building...) to play their fuken ditties!!! They are plaing the same shit, every FUCKING day!!! AND THEY PLAY IT BADLY! IM FUKKEN FUMING!!!!
FerInternalUseOnly 3 years ago
A movie called "Forbidden Games" practically ruined the entire lives of the two child actors. I understand Andreson had a hard life. All we can do is admire the work of art.
In 10 years, all Bogarde did with his square jet set in gold was to move it from his left to his right hand....
Beautiful, even though lacking the incredible internal monologues.
Phillipa1 3 years ago
that singer seems to be dead
antoniavera 3 years ago
that's because in Mann's Death in Venice, the singer represents one of the many messengers of death that appear throughout the story. The film actually depicts him quite accurately.
Jeannie274 3 years ago 5
A messenger of death. Thank you. I must read the book.
migamilan 2 years ago
Mann was a very sophisticated author, writing on several levels. A recent, comprehensive biography would enhance understanding. Also, there are many translations of his novella. Most of the earlier ones are deficient, some quite poor. A couple of the more recent ones are much better. There also is an annotated edition available.
sfkcbf 2 years ago
Luis Hipolito @ The Blogger
Death in Venice. The movie of my life.
luishipolito 3 years ago
My favorite scene
Absurdité de l'élégance
tripotetherese 3 years ago
Now THAT is a bishonen! {{{{^_^}}}}
robynsegg 3 years ago
This particular scene is a flagrante proof of Visconti´s shallow perception of beauty and it´s opposite. Andrésen is compelled to pose in ridiculous positions, completely unnatural to a youngster, too self aware,intimdated by the threatening of his screen personality. Visconti´s cynical exploitation of an inexperienced boy actor is ugly and left scars for years. In spite of the movie´s extravagant beauty I feel aversion visavi Visconti and his assistent Zefirelli.
acselfersen 4 years ago
excellent observation...I completely agree
wrathofskorm 3 years ago
Funny! At 4:44 you can hear someone saying in russian "Почему? Потому, что не бегaет..." ("Pochemu? Potomu shto nje begaet" wich means "Why? Because [somebody] is not running...").
KarlisKlotins 4 years ago
"Morte em Veneza" é o filme da minha vida. Luis Hipolito @ The Blogger
luishipolito 4 years ago
I love Italian. I would be dam fluent in the language if my HS teacher ACTUALLY taught something. That woman ...grr
reticentme 4 years ago
Una obra maestra de película, quien no tenga ojos para ella, que mejor se saque los ojos e ingrese en el reino de los ciegos...
raulgordon 4 years ago
Thomas Mann ist Gott(mindestens)!!!!!!!
arthur1860 4 years ago
True that.
juliet719 4 years ago
You are an offensive moron.
badlydrawnroy 4 years ago
What an insult.
uchuufuku 4 years ago
Bjorn Andresen is the personification of the pure love we all look for. Amazing movie, fullfiled of diverse interpretations, depending how you consider facts and words.
DerAdventurer 4 years ago
Venezia siempre me ha parecido triste, detras del bullicio de la gente que la visita, en sus calles solas hay un toque de profunda tristeza.
claya55 4 years ago 3
thomas mann is the best!!!!
schrumpfkopf222 4 years ago 3
the book is a true piece of art!
odishon452002 4 years ago 2
Ironically, it was Bjorn's own beauty that re-popularized Mann's highly acclaimed novella. The real "Tadzio" did not know that a film had been made about him until his childhood friend saw it in London and informed him.
sfkcbf 4 years ago
@sfkcbf Sorry, no... he was at a dance in his 20s, when somebody told him that Mann had written a novel in which his family had been portrayed, but he never identified himself to Mann. When Visconti was filming in Venice, Tadzio's friend, Jaschu, appeared with old photos of himself and the real Tadzio at the Lido back in 1911
MrMartinportnoy 1 year ago
@MrMartinportnoy I'm not sure what you mean by "Sorry, no." Both postings are correct. Wladzio read a translation of the NOVELLA, obviously, long before the film was made, and then later his friend saw the FILM in London and informed him. Visconti did not want to see the adult Wladzio because Visconti knew that the youthful beauty would have been lost, and he did not want that to influence his own vision of him.
sfkcbf 1 year ago
great movie
dennishsan 4 years ago
I really want to watch this film now! I wonder where I could find it :/ And the actor for Tadzio at any rate would have made a much better Anne Rice character than those un-vampiric healthy-looking guys in the movies (since when were blood-starved vampires healthy?). And having read Kaze to Ki no Uta, I can say he IS the spitting image of Gilbert! Amazing O__o Thanks so much for posting!
melonxpie 4 years ago
It is out on DVD so it shouldn't be too hard to find...
nbatinica 4 years ago
I just found out that there is a 90% CHANCE THAT HE IS THE INSPIRATION FOR GILBERT COCTEAU IN "KAZE TO KI NO UTA"!!!!! (This fangirl squeals w/ unbridled delight!) I read on Wikipedia that a few years after this movie was made, he traveled to Japan while "Bjorn-mania" was at it's peak and that he became the inspiration of the manga writers there, especial KEIKO TAKAMIYA, "Kaze's..." author! The first time I saw him I knew it! I love being right!
robynsegg 3 years ago
Ironically, in 2001, a writer wrote a book about the real boy who became the inspiration for Tadzio. The book is called "The Real Tadzio" (Short Books 2001) about Baron Wladyslaw Moes & was written by Gilbert Adair. I guess you could say that in art Bjorn & Gilbert's stars are intertwined! {{{{^_^}}}}
robynsegg 3 years ago
Thank you for sharing , one of my favorite scenes, I think one of the reasons is becouse actor Bjorn couldn't possibly look more gorgeous , breath taking , I have seen lots of artist using him as a model for Amadeo (One of Anne Rice characters)with the obvious changes like the hair and the color of the eyes I defenetly see it, he could make it as a young Lestat to.
drewsarichfangirl 5 years ago
wow you've said everything I had in my mind just now :)
angelbuffy4 5 years ago