Hey Ron! RON! Where are our Emmy Certificates? Since we (the vancouver department) pretty much blew our brains out to save the LA department from countless and continious mistakes made on their part to deliver you 303B Exodus - don't you think we deserve a bit of recognition??
Where the hell was Ron Moore when the Vancouver VFX department for Battlestar Galactica mid-season III was being sfcked over entirely by the VFX producer and VFX supervisor of the show to the point where the BC labour board started sniffing around on the grounds that the staff there were pulling sweatshop hours and being paid less than HALF of what the LA department was getting when you factored in exchange rate and payscale at that time???
If you're unhappy about your situation and circumstances, why don't YOU strike instead of blaming Ron Moore for your misfortunes? Did it occur to you, way up in Vancouver (another COUNTRY), that Ron Moore might not have much to say about the hours your shop keeps or anything else that you're wailing about? Grow a pair and DO something besides point the finger and whine.
You know nothing about the situation that went on there.
WE actually had IATSE (Local 891) come in and start the collective barganing process and vote for unionization into the VFX department on our behalf but they (BSG's production staff -ie our VFX Producer and supervisor, and an NBC staffer) went on a witch hunt to try and squash it. And they pretty much did. I pretty much lost my job because I stood up for myself and for the othre staff.
So screw you and your defense of Ron. RON! if you read this, you owe the staff of the VFX department who left over the course of the past 16 months an explaination for why you 1. WERE NOT AWARE OF THE SITUATION, and if you were, WHAT YOU WERE TOLD EXACTLY, and 2. A thanks for saving shots from the LA group time and time again so your show could make it to air, while we pulled 14-20 hour shifts. Actually, why don't you ask your writing team about it! They knew what was going on!
Golly - you're right, of course. Whining about it and insulting people on YouTube is naturally guaranteed to make things better... If this is the best you can do, you deserve to be shat on like that. I'm not trying to defend Ron, merely to see that both sides get a fair hearing.
Try contacting the appropriate union for tips on how to organize anyway, and/or refuse to work for non-union shops and projects. Because you're accomplishing nothing here but alienating any support you might receive.
What I am saying is we tried the union route and got screwed anyway. Because Ron was to "untouchable". We could never get a word with him at all. But yet most of the production crew and cast knew how things were going and we had their support for the most part. Ron just doesn't walk on water in my book really.
What the point is really and maybe I should have said this straight out is that its a bit odd that Ron will throw his support behind writers because he is a writer, but thats generally in his self interest and not for the people who do the "heavy lifting" on his show. Or at least it appeared and still appears that way.
Unions are such a bad idea. They used to actually work for the common man, now they only represent a shell of what they were meant to do, only aiding those higher up in the union itself. It's a facade to believe that unions are for the members, in the end it's only for their leaders. How ironic.
Surrounded by friends and family who are writers, I am in full support of the writer's strike. If it means shows being pre-empted because of the strikes, so be it. As the old saying goes, "Give credit where credit is due."
kjbsvfan, Harlan does still have the affectionately named 'Grey Ghost'. It had some leg problems awhile back, but last he wrote about it, it's doing okay.
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lazy bums, go to work you bastards. BSG is already postponed, I will come down there and kick your lazy asss if you won't start writing soon! Don't believe a word about them being poor suckers, they got loads of cash. NOW GO THA FUCK TO WORK!!
no they dont. ya they make a bit over average regular peeps do, but they are proving a point. they arent in it for the money. thet are proving a point. without them they dont have a show. get the point right.
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so? without water they don't have a show either. We should pay the water now too? Cut the crap , they want to write especially if they aren't in it for the money. they got enough believe me. I agree the companies get a much larger cut, but that's the nature of their business. The companies sell, the writers write. If a writer wants to sell, he needs to become a company, and that will suck believe me. You don't want a money grabbing writer like Tom Clancy. Hate this guy!
it's not the smartest I give you that, but if you ware a bit smarter yourself you would have read more carefully to notice me saying "pay THE water" not "pay FOR water". You understand the difference? :S
Isn't that enough for them? To make enough to survive in this world should be enough, but these people are being paid more than the regular American to keep producing the same crap over and over again.
again i will say meyosan. the point of them is for the money and to prove a point. i dont support them for striking for money but i do support them for their reason of saying without writers there is no show. some of them are striking for money others to prove a point. i support them for their point not financially.
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SO true. Those suckers believe they get more creative if they are billionaires. That's a load of BS off course. I would say give them less money so they have something to strive for, maybe then we see some great scripts.
There are plenty of great scripts out there. The problem is the STUDIOS decide what sees the light of day NOT the writers. The simple fact is the corporations (studios) have formulas they know sell well so they stick to that instead of trying something that doesn't fit into their formulas...
You're one of those idiots who don't have a clue how the business works, therefore, you're NOT entitled to an opinion. That's why we're just laughing at you and ignoring you.
I hope the writers get what they want and soon or else this is going to be bad for fans of the writer's creations...frak! (just felt like saying that last word)
I am behind you 100% I am a patient fan who hopes that the writers are compensated for their irreplaceable work. We live in a world where all too often the worker is pounded into submission with the Frack stick. New territories are being carved up every day and everyone should get their fair share!
i agree with you b8man01. i mean these workers should definately get fraqin payed more. i am also a huge fan of bsg. i think and know that without the writers they wouldnt have a show. they really should pay them more. they darn right deserve it. they need the money. they work their butts off.
I support the writers and all...but as a Battlestar Galactica fan I hope the strike ends soon and well because if I don't find out who the last cylon is I'm going to cry =( I <3 Ron D. Moore, hope he keeps writing.
who do you think the cylon is? i still say it is starbuck. even though that seem so ovious. or it might be the president. i dont know. what do you think?
Hey look...don't kill yourself if the strike doesn't end soon. Look, Battlestar Galactica in limbo is a small issue compared to what's going on in Hollywood's corporate structure, let alone the whole Political Correctness plaguing our country, FCC, etc. If you embrace the show's meaning instead of just watching it, you would be more of a fighter and less of a fan. In that way you'd be helping RDM and the others out.
PLEASE DON'T READ THIS you will die in seven days if you don't post this comment on 10 videos in the next hour. if you do, tomorrow will be the best day of your life
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I'm a writer, and I'm proud not to be a part of a union. I don't even see the reason for a union, since it's generally the same people who get work in Hollywood, but then, I would never work in Hollywood anyway.
If you don't see the reason for a writers union, maybe cylons have infested your brain. Do you think you are better off? Do you enjoy working for low pay and no health care? Personally I like to get pay my mortgage on time, and be able to afford to send my kid to the doctor. I'm glad think you're too cool to work in "Hollywood". Just keep feeling that way, I'm sure you'll go far...
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Unions were originally created for people like butchers who would have to work in hazardus conditions, and they had to fight for better working conditions. Writers do not need a union. If your a good enough writer, just refuse the script, and they directors will want you back eventually. Unions are HILAROUS, usually democrats support unions, and they are always saying how greedy we conservatives are, but LOOK AT YOURSELF, going on strike for more money WHOS THE GREEDY ONE NOW
You clearly have no understanding of how the industry actually works and should probably do your research into a subject before commenting, or you may look like an idiot to those who know and experience the industry as professionals. Sticking up for your rights is not greedy, especially when most writers are on low incomes. Only a tiny percentage are on megabucks and long term work is not guaranteed.
i completely agree with you jengofilm. it is not greedy to do what is right. this nation would be in substantial debt or be impovertized if we didnt stick up for what is right. that is what the writers are doing. they are proving a point that without them they really dont have a show to give to the people.
There isn't anything right about this strike, the companies aren't getting any money from it, and in the end it'll end up hurting more than helping, and it is naiveity to believe that sticking up for what is as right is always a good thing.
OMG! lol...I caught a glimpse of myself and had no idea someone was behind me with a camera. If any of you get to participate, you should. They need our support and I was more than happy to give it.
Awsome! Glad to see Harlan finally got on one of the unitedhollywood films. I saw pictures of him picketing a while back, but it's always awsome to hear him.
The union where I work has never been much use :P.
hanshotfirst1138 2 years ago
well when I say union you say poo
wog222 3 years ago
Guy who uploaded this, don't say Harlan's a "sci-fi" writer, he'll kill you! LOL
moeezS 4 years ago 2
@moeezS I'm surprised that he's supporting ANY work that is not his own.
Nonamearisto 1 year ago
Harlan Ellison 'it all starts with the WORD'
thats what writers do - nuff said
respect.
tekkers 4 years ago
Battlestar Galactica are the best...ever!
Bluehoundofwinter 4 years ago
I want my Battlestar Galactica!
earthreuniting 4 years ago 2
You don't need it. Go see the world and do it!
-R78
Rodimus78 2 years ago
Hey Ron! RON! Where are our Emmy Certificates? Since we (the vancouver department) pretty much blew our brains out to save the LA department from countless and continious mistakes made on their part to deliver you 303B Exodus - don't you think we deserve a bit of recognition??
battlestarvfx 4 years ago
Where the hell was Ron Moore when the Vancouver VFX department for Battlestar Galactica mid-season III was being sfcked over entirely by the VFX producer and VFX supervisor of the show to the point where the BC labour board started sniffing around on the grounds that the staff there were pulling sweatshop hours and being paid less than HALF of what the LA department was getting when you factored in exchange rate and payscale at that time???
I will tell you~! KNOW WHERE TO BE FOUND!
battlestarvfx 4 years ago
If you're unhappy about your situation and circumstances, why don't YOU strike instead of blaming Ron Moore for your misfortunes? Did it occur to you, way up in Vancouver (another COUNTRY), that Ron Moore might not have much to say about the hours your shop keeps or anything else that you're wailing about? Grow a pair and DO something besides point the finger and whine.
DrDespicable 4 years ago
You know nothing about the situation that went on there.
WE actually had IATSE (Local 891) come in and start the collective barganing process and vote for unionization into the VFX department on our behalf but they (BSG's production staff -ie our VFX Producer and supervisor, and an NBC staffer) went on a witch hunt to try and squash it. And they pretty much did. I pretty much lost my job because I stood up for myself and for the othre staff.
battlestarvfx 4 years ago
So screw you and your defense of Ron. RON! if you read this, you owe the staff of the VFX department who left over the course of the past 16 months an explaination for why you 1. WERE NOT AWARE OF THE SITUATION, and if you were, WHAT YOU WERE TOLD EXACTLY, and 2. A thanks for saving shots from the LA group time and time again so your show could make it to air, while we pulled 14-20 hour shifts. Actually, why don't you ask your writing team about it! They knew what was going on!
battlestarvfx 4 years ago
Golly - you're right, of course. Whining about it and insulting people on YouTube is naturally guaranteed to make things better... If this is the best you can do, you deserve to be shat on like that. I'm not trying to defend Ron, merely to see that both sides get a fair hearing.
DrDespicable 4 years ago
Try contacting the appropriate union for tips on how to organize anyway, and/or refuse to work for non-union shops and projects. Because you're accomplishing nothing here but alienating any support you might receive.
DrDespicable 4 years ago
What I am saying is we tried the union route and got screwed anyway. Because Ron was to "untouchable". We could never get a word with him at all. But yet most of the production crew and cast knew how things were going and we had their support for the most part. Ron just doesn't walk on water in my book really.
battlestarvfx 4 years ago
Support? I don't want your support.
What the point is really and maybe I should have said this straight out is that its a bit odd that Ron will throw his support behind writers because he is a writer, but thats generally in his self interest and not for the people who do the "heavy lifting" on his show. Or at least it appeared and still appears that way.
battlestarvfx 4 years ago
Unions are such a bad idea. They used to actually work for the common man, now they only represent a shell of what they were meant to do, only aiding those higher up in the union itself. It's a facade to believe that unions are for the members, in the end it's only for their leaders. How ironic.
theaznfishy 4 years ago
Great to know that Harlan Ellison has grown older, but not softer :-)
KillahMate 4 years ago
Bears.Beets.Battlestar Gallactica.
=p
Chelss00 4 years ago
Surrounded by friends and family who are writers, I am in full support of the writer's strike. If it means shows being pre-empted because of the strikes, so be it. As the old saying goes, "Give credit where credit is due."
Forysan 4 years ago 2
i dont watch battlestar, but they are definately the greatest fucking fans along with star trek and other sci-fi shows
what other shows have ppl support them like this? dress up and enjoy the creative ideas of the writers, and go to conventions
rock on writers
fuck the backstabbing greedy ass scam artist networks!
jimmywantgrapes 4 years ago
I knew it was Harlan shouting "Power!" before they showed him. You guys have my love and respect, 100%!
keytoothed 4 years ago 2
kjbsvfan, Harlan does still have the affectionately named 'Grey Ghost'. It had some leg problems awhile back, but last he wrote about it, it's doing okay.
plutohellbender 4 years ago
In the meantime, have lives and love lives and the time to the next season will FLY by rather than take a long time seemingly.
Funny how that works, eh??
rap9206 4 years ago
Loved the bit with Ellison! Wonder if he still has his Packard?
kjbsvfan 4 years ago
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lazy bums, go to work you bastards. BSG is already postponed, I will come down there and kick your lazy asss if you won't start writing soon! Don't believe a word about them being poor suckers, they got loads of cash. NOW GO THA FUCK TO WORK!!
EGOistICH 4 years ago
no they dont. ya they make a bit over average regular peeps do, but they are proving a point. they arent in it for the money. thet are proving a point. without them they dont have a show. get the point right.
mileyhannahdisser 4 years ago 2
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so? without water they don't have a show either. We should pay the water now too? Cut the crap , they want to write especially if they aren't in it for the money. they got enough believe me. I agree the companies get a much larger cut, but that's the nature of their business. The companies sell, the writers write. If a writer wants to sell, he needs to become a company, and that will suck believe me. You don't want a money grabbing writer like Tom Clancy. Hate this guy!
EGOistICH 4 years ago
Tom Clancy pwns.
Pay the water.
nanocss 4 years ago
Dude...you do know that you have to pay for water, right? I'm just asking because that's probably the dumbest retort I've ever heard.
shamelessbookworm 4 years ago
it's not the smartest I give you that, but if you ware a bit smarter yourself you would have read more carefully to notice me saying "pay THE water" not "pay FOR water". You understand the difference? :S
EGOistICH 4 years ago
Isn't that enough for them? To make enough to survive in this world should be enough, but these people are being paid more than the regular American to keep producing the same crap over and over again.
Meyosan 4 years ago
again i will say meyosan. the point of them is for the money and to prove a point. i dont support them for striking for money but i do support them for their reason of saying without writers there is no show. some of them are striking for money others to prove a point. i support them for their point not financially.
crapbob1717 4 years ago
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SO true. Those suckers believe they get more creative if they are billionaires. That's a load of BS off course. I would say give them less money so they have something to strive for, maybe then we see some great scripts.
EGOistICH 4 years ago
There are plenty of great scripts out there. The problem is the STUDIOS decide what sees the light of day NOT the writers. The simple fact is the corporations (studios) have formulas they know sell well so they stick to that instead of trying something that doesn't fit into their formulas...
ToolofSociety 4 years ago 4
You're one of those idiots who don't have a clue how the business works, therefore, you're NOT entitled to an opinion. That's why we're just laughing at you and ignoring you.
mithringil 4 years ago 2
You have my support.
Xearafe 4 years ago
I hope the writers get what they want and soon or else this is going to be bad for fans of the writer's creations...frak! (just felt like saying that last word)
nodkid88 4 years ago
This is the best one yet!! Thanks to United Hollywood for putting out these terrific updates. Go Writers!!!
seamlessegg 4 years ago 2
I'm with u guys (writers)!!
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greetings from Turkey :D
Whitedagger 4 years ago 3
I am behind you 100% I am a patient fan who hopes that the writers are compensated for their irreplaceable work. We live in a world where all too often the worker is pounded into submission with the Frack stick. New territories are being carved up every day and everyone should get their fair share!
b8man01 4 years ago 6
i agree with you b8man01. i mean these workers should definately get fraqin payed more. i am also a huge fan of bsg. i think and know that without the writers they wouldnt have a show. they really should pay them more. they darn right deserve it. they need the money. they work their butts off.
crapbob1717 4 years ago 6
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Looooooosers
mahowel 4 years ago
I support the writers and all...but as a Battlestar Galactica fan I hope the strike ends soon and well because if I don't find out who the last cylon is I'm going to cry =( I <3 Ron D. Moore, hope he keeps writing.
M1speled 4 years ago 4
who do you think the cylon is? i still say it is starbuck. even though that seem so ovious. or it might be the president. i dont know. what do you think?
crapbob1717 4 years ago
why did your comment get a -1? lol
EGOistICH 4 years ago
Hey look...don't kill yourself if the strike doesn't end soon. Look, Battlestar Galactica in limbo is a small issue compared to what's going on in Hollywood's corporate structure, let alone the whole Political Correctness plaguing our country, FCC, etc. If you embrace the show's meaning instead of just watching it, you would be more of a fighter and less of a fan. In that way you'd be helping RDM and the others out.
Rodimus78 4 years ago
United we Bargain, divided we beg!
hoomanity 4 years ago 4
Hey I gotta remember that one.
airdriver 4 years ago 2
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omg why cant we all just get along nvm that crazy talk :P anyway thanx for posting the video
snakevpr 4 years ago
I'm with u guys (writters)!!
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greetings from Poland :D
agatkk 4 years ago
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friedman171 4 years ago
who are you to tell us whether we should have a union or not? Obviously you know nothing about being a writer in this business.
hurleyvillain 4 years ago
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I'm a writer, and I'm proud not to be a part of a union. I don't even see the reason for a union, since it's generally the same people who get work in Hollywood, but then, I would never work in Hollywood anyway.
Meyosan 4 years ago
If you don't see the reason for a writers union, maybe cylons have infested your brain. Do you think you are better off? Do you enjoy working for low pay and no health care? Personally I like to get pay my mortgage on time, and be able to afford to send my kid to the doctor. I'm glad think you're too cool to work in "Hollywood". Just keep feeling that way, I'm sure you'll go far...
hurleyvillain 4 years ago 4
Naaa she wont
KnuckleBallz 4 years ago
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Unions were originally created for people like butchers who would have to work in hazardus conditions, and they had to fight for better working conditions. Writers do not need a union. If your a good enough writer, just refuse the script, and they directors will want you back eventually. Unions are HILAROUS, usually democrats support unions, and they are always saying how greedy we conservatives are, but LOOK AT YOURSELF, going on strike for more money WHOS THE GREEDY ONE NOW
bazookabarfman 4 years ago
You clearly have no understanding of how the industry actually works and should probably do your research into a subject before commenting, or you may look like an idiot to those who know and experience the industry as professionals. Sticking up for your rights is not greedy, especially when most writers are on low incomes. Only a tiny percentage are on megabucks and long term work is not guaranteed.
JengoFilm 4 years ago 8
Isn't the Union's goal to get writers substantial money for the stuff they put out?
drvagrant 4 years ago
i completely agree with you jengofilm. it is not greedy to do what is right. this nation would be in substantial debt or be impovertized if we didnt stick up for what is right. that is what the writers are doing. they are proving a point that without them they really dont have a show to give to the people.
crapbob1717 4 years ago
There isn't anything right about this strike, the companies aren't getting any money from it, and in the end it'll end up hurting more than helping, and it is naiveity to believe that sticking up for what is as right is always a good thing.
Meyosan 4 years ago
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bremen mızıkıcıları :D
LIBERTYEMRE 4 years ago
dang, that little girl is FUCKING UP that jam hardcore
oppositronic 4 years ago
A cranky Ellison is a beautiful thing to behold!
TheRagingCelt 4 years ago
HOORAY FOR HARLAN ELLISON! Please do more videos with him, he's brilliant.
chriscrosby 4 years ago
Word.
MadScout 4 years ago
This was amazing to see and wonderfully done! Especially for those no where near California!
Thank You!
RenewingSpirit 4 years ago
OMG! lol...I caught a glimpse of myself and had no idea someone was behind me with a camera. If any of you get to participate, you should. They need our support and I was more than happy to give it.
-ARLC
Boobtoob2 4 years ago
Oh this is amazing!
LynleeG 4 years ago
Awsome! Glad to see Harlan finally got on one of the unitedhollywood films. I saw pictures of him picketing a while back, but it's always awsome to hear him.
scrubsmusical 4 years ago
I almost didn't recognize Harlan..
irwinalien 4 years ago
ron do ya know don in seattle...
mono999
OKAYLOOK 4 years ago
Memos from Purgatory is one of my favorite Hitchcock episodes...rock on Harlan!
geekgirl45 4 years ago 2
the videos are getting better! i like the music, editing and personal point-of-view perceptions.
digitalreporter 4 years ago
Harlan Elison RULES!!! Go WGA!!!
britethorn 4 years ago 4
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Please. As if Harlan needs an excuse to sue or be angry at someone.
ScornedbySara 4 years ago
LOL! But he sure does look happy to be having some company for a change!
britethorn 4 years ago