Pre-War Intelligence: Three Words: The Vice President

[uclastudent1]

Hello, people educate yourself. Both sides lie. Both sides use propaganda. The citizens of the world are nothing but disposable pawns. Look at your own leader first then judge the other. Don't be brainwashed. Both sides of all wars are guilty. Look at what your leader did to antagonize the other. Don't be a propaganda puppet. Before you cry what the US did to you. Ask what your leader did.

[mrlowdangle]

as if anything these guys say could of made a difference! the plan for the unprovoked attacks was made years before 9/11, as was the plan for 9/11, designed purely to get the american public full of hate and fear so they'd be on side for any future US lead attacks.

what a crock of misdirectional shit,theyve had america in a choke hold for years, doing what they want when they want,while keeping the public misinformed and ignorant of the facts through media manipulation+lack of real education.

[modelfan1979]

The lack of understanding is staggering. The whole premise, that everything is Bush's or Cheney's fault is false. And they either are knowingly conning the public or are stupid.

What they are not looking into, intentionally, is the fact that several major Democrats, especially the current VP Joe Biden were supporters of invading Iraq before Bush even came into office. Biden was the worse. He called for war against Iraq in 1998 and even proposed a resolution calling for war in Iraq to Bush.

[Whoo69]

It's so easy to tell that Bush and the others lied. Countless news articles about how Bush basically scared lower employees of agencies like the CIA into manipulating the intel. No dissent in public was allowed if someone in the ranks KNEW Bush was lying. How am I supposed to believe that just a year after people like Condi and Powell say Saddam DOESN'T have weapons that all of a sudden "intelligence reports" are coming out at spitfire speed about wmds. what a joke.

[irondoor827]

if anyone with common sence and some education they can see that the whole war in Afganisstan is a CIA False-Flagg

operation...the so called number -2-man under Osama in lauden was found dead with 10,000 US dollars ;

this ADMINISTRATON  is fighting over OIL RIGHTS AND EURO-PETRO DOLLARS VS. US PETRO-DOLLARS...AND DEFENCE CONTRACTS THAT WILL LAST FOR YEARS....

[irondoor827]

this was just the pre-discussion for the Murder DICK Cheney, planned and used to justfy a war  after killing AMERICANS ON 9/11;

[SCODgreenhood]

very good. He is still speaking out... *****

[duckofdeath2004]

Your right bumpstop. They only 'solution' is to have a draft and send at least half a million. I suggest we confine the draft to the south and middle america since they're more patriotic than us america-hating leftys.

[bumpstop3]

Douglas J Feith is the next clown in mix to be gone, and I can see that happening within a month. His actions show how we run into problems when things run by committee. Wars go into the history books for how they end not start. The Pres, VP, and Feith tweaked the words until a connection was made to al qaeda. Its sad news, but we must find a way to win moving forward. You cant just proclaim George Bush is a jackass, and bring the troops home on this one, it runs much deeper at this point.

[notsooldfart]

unfuckingbelievable! Impeach Bush and Dick

[225h]

Isn't it time that any "knowlegable American Offical/Politician comes clean for the sake of the country.

[edhesq]

aren't these guys arguing process, not substance? as in, how dare they second-guess our work. anyway, I thought wmd was "the pretext" for war, not the iraq-AQ link? CIA and wilkerson's boss powell made the WMD stockpile case, so they have to use their differences over the AQ link to attack their enemy -- not the one overseas, but inside the pentagon bureacracy.

[johnnyk67]

the link between AQ and Saddam that Cheney so desperately tried to prove was definitely part of the pretext for war... not just the WMDs. Cheney and Kristol repeated the link just as much (if not more) as the WMD argument. That's why they are discussing it.

[modelfan1979]

Ok. Well if it was all Cheney's fault, why did Joe Biden propose that the US invade Iraq back in the late 90s? If everything is Cheney's fault, why did Biden propose a war resolution to the Bush administration?

It is so easy for Democrats to blame Republicans. It is so hard to see what they did and their responsibility for the war.

[johnnyk67]

Cheney told the American people (many) lies to invade Iraq for Biden, etc. From his interview in the 90s, he knew we wouldn't be greeted as liberators and the quagmire that would result. Many CIA & State Dept officials have come forward to detail how the Bush team lied us into war by using raw data (unverified) - on CNN and PBS documentaries, among others. A bipartisan Senate report stated that they said things they knew not to be the case, stopping short of saying the obvious... that they lied.