everybody started laughing because they all thought it was kinda impossible... but well there's impossible to normal people and impossible to virgil donati... well actually no there is no impossible to virgil donati :D
Wicked balance and control, somewhat difficult exercise but you build on it little by little. For myself I find being ambidextrous helps pull off some strange and cool grooves. Still, I'm more than sure I'm gonna trip a few times trying this one out!!!
DAMN. I thought Virgil Donati was gonna be the new Dream Theater drummer, really. But Mike Mangini's the man too. But seriously, this is crazy! It's like cutting your body in half!!
One of these days he's gonna come out and say, so we do a paradiddle with the right side, a double paradiddle with your left side, and a triple paradiddle using your chest and face....and you know what....itll sound funky too
2nd method: Bottom up. 1st, play a single paradiddle (no accent) between right hand and r. foot 20X. Double paradiddle (no accent) on the left 20X. Go back and add accents (20X). Now go back to the 1st method and inch your way along the music again. Even if you get stuck on the 1st few notes, repeat up to that point 20X. Then continue. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was Mr. Donati. Remember, 1 limb on the left is always hitting at the same time as 1 on the right. You can do it!
This is a great, highly challenging, but NOT unthinkably challenging groove. You just have to be patient and break it down. 1 method: Top down. Learn the basic rhythm. No matter how complex the sticking, the rhythm shouldn't change. It's 6 against 4 (double paradiddle vs. single p.) Write as singles (hands only) and play it 20X as a check pattern. Then write out the whole pattern (full set) play it 1 beat at a time until you get stuck. Play up to that point 20X. Keep adding notes. Cont...
I dont know if some of you guys told before, but this paradiddle appear in the beginning of the song The Thinking Stone of the album Quantum... its really sick!!
I dont know if some of you guys told before, but this paradiddle appear in the beginning of the song The Thinking Stone of the album Quantum... its really sick!!
@Americant47 Well put, bro! I dont get what the fuck is wrong with all of these whiny little bitches posting comments on here about music and drumming when they dont know shit about it! Virgil is one of the most amazing drummers I have ever seen, along with Gavin Harrison, Dogac Titiz, Marco Minnemann and others. He takes drumming to a whole other level. One that is reserved for the gods of drumming. I dont give a fuck what anyone says. Anyone who doesnt like Virgil is an ignorant moron!
thomas lang does this pattern in creative coordination but he does it R hand Left Foot and L hand to Right Foot so its cross diagonal. Lang and Virg are monsters
Nobody touched this guy on many levels. His mental indepence is untouchable. Nobody now has a better left hand in tradirional grip. Nobody does bass drum work at his level. and nobody has his endurance.
@JoeJacari you are fuc ing Hysterical!!! virgil is cyborg drummer with ultra sensitive groove!!! you have a good friend!! travis rocks his ass off.........but, Virgil's in a class all his own!
@Likeyoucare his coordination is far beyond most drummers and for that reason he is amazong, along with craig blundell and thomas lang, with regards to coordination. Even though I dont really like thomas lang, it has to be said that his coordination is unbelievable
@cashmerestaten Danny Carey is one of my idols, I'm a percussionist myself and Carey is nowhere near the same league as Donati- not even close. Donati has an independence in his rhythms that very few drummers have matched, to find Donati's league, you'd have look at Akira Jimbo
Seriously gang, don't even try to make comparisons to Virgil. Of course a few others, in their own right, can compare, i.e., Weckl, Colaiuta, Chambers, etc. but don't even go to the rock scene for comparisons because not one rock drummer even scratches the surface of greatness that is Virgil Donati. And this includes my lifetime idols, Peart, Portnoy & Bonham. None are close. Perhaps Bobby Jerzombek is closest. No disrespect to any drummer. Virgil is just that good.
@47TheSteve I most certainly am. Sydney born and bred. I appreciate your words and am proud that something from our soil has been had an impact on your life. I am very sorry for your loss.
@Drewberry32 Nostalgically, we all like and want to cling to our favorites, myself included, but we have to be realistic as we're doing so. I'm the first to say, drumming is not a competition. I completely get that. As a matter of literal fact we simply must face the fact that in life some are more gifted than others. It doesn't, nor should it, negate the skill of any other however. There's enough talent, fortunately, to go around. I'm just being realistic beyond contention into admiration.
@Drewberry32 When you think about it, most people who make comments on here aren't drummers or boxers or scientists or singers, etc. so these people, in an attempt to be heard, just speak off the top of their head for the most part. It's not that they aren't entitled to their opinion, because they are. It's just that their opinions don't hold as much water in that, they really don't understand the vernaculars of what they're commenting on. Most aren't deep thinkers either, unfortunately.
@47TheSteve When i think about it i most people arrived her for a reason and the opinions are opinionated. I am a drummer/guitar player/singer my father was a boxer and i do not know what a "scientist" is.
It's all four-way independence. I went to one of his clinics and he showed everyone there his whole concept of thinking in left and right limb phrasing (the left limbs play this pattern and the right limbs play another pattern on top of it). It's all truly mind-blowing how he can create such beats and patterns that sound musical and dynamic, yet appear like gibberish on paper. He's one of the best out there nowadays.
@simplyunclassifiable Yeah I went to a clinic in CT a few years ago, I don't understand how he can separate two things in his head like that. He's a beast! I actually got a sabian HHX from the set he was playing signed and everything!
@PickUpYourLighters NOOOOO THANK YOU! the normal paradidle groove is hard enough :P haha do not tell me you can do that... i will have to blow my face off -_- lol
Great video. It's helped me to realize that I can't even play a double paradiddle with my snare and hi-hat never mind the paradiddle Virgil suggests at the same time on the other side.
This is a man that has practiced what nobody ever will on a drum set, hours of his life have been put onto this instrument as part of it... that's achieving something.. Great Virgil, great...
I like how he talks, he's got that cool accent and it's like he has some lisp and it makes you really sit down and listen to what he says....Plays awesome too, one of my favorite drummers
i have tried this pattern just today and it is impossible without seeing it written down... if your stuck just write it down and dont think about playing paradidles/double paradiddles... just play what you read
im working on double paradiddles with my feet and single paradiddles with my hands and i no what your talking about its all fine alone but when you put um together it become very hard i needed to write it down. im doing this one next as soon as i get it down
@lordzilfallon I think even Lomabardo would agree with you there, much as Lombardo comes from a jazz background and his work with Fantomas is (in my opinion) the best thing he's ever done, it doesn't even come to close to the technicality and groove of what this guy can do.
It doesn't matter what grip one plays, if it's good, it's good.
'Freddy [Gruber] will talk until the cows come home about how there really isn't a difference between the two [grips]...' - Dave Weckl, Modern Drummer, 1997.
I wonder how he thinks about it while playing. I've managed to learn to play the first groove but I have to follow the double paradiddle in my mind and memorize where the paradiddle aligns with it. Theres no way in hell i can think about both at once but you can kind of cheat that way and perform the same beat by thinking about one half of the equation .
yeah im sure you can learn how the beats fall togheter...but Virgil plays this so un-robotic and floating i think he thinks about them both...remember hes independence skills are totally amazing.
yeah and another evidence of that is that he actually plays it wrong at first but then pulls it together. It really gives you the sense that he is thinking about each half seperately and correcting it.
wow I didnt noticed he failed first. Thats just amazing that he corrected it. Im sure he can control the dynamics in them how ever he wants to too. Imagine how "open" hes mind got to feel while he plays!
Yes you can tell he's thinking about both at once. Ive been working on this for about a week now. The 1st day was a huge headache. But each day I get faster with it and can almost make it groove. When you follow one side of the pattern and then memorize how the 2nd side correlates you can pull it off. Now when I play it over and over I have split seconds where I can think about both at once. I think you can eventually learn the independence through mass repetition.
I really wonder if he just says I think ill play a double paradiddle over a paradiddle and then figures it out within a minute, whereas Ive spent a week on it and still cant play it quite as fast and with ZERO freedom.
Thats a good question! When i was a bit younger and didnt understood how this independence stuff worked i thought Virgil good play to two songs at the same time! Offcouse, the rytms has to make connection to each other. About your practise, yes i think youre on the right path. Maybe you just begins to hard or something. I wouldnt be surprised of Virgil's first independence stuff was the triple bassdrum workouts on "Power drumming", which is a good lesson.
It's referred to as "unconscious competence" where you needn't think about it anymore. Same as everything else, start slow and progress until the speed is up to snuff.
unconscious competence... Isnt it amazing what the human mind can do. It doesnt seem possible but it realy is. And you CAN play it. Just follow you're own advice- Learn the 1st beat of the measure, then the 2nd, etc until you've got it. Theres no speed or rudimental chops required for this one so you just build it step by step. Takes patience though!
yea i know i was just messing, but u gotta give independence to this guy over MOST wgi drummers. some of them dont even play set, which is the epitome of independence drumming.
i trying to practice this but i have a question-- if the left limbs start off with the hi hat to get that back beat groove, do the right limbs start with the floor tom or the bass? i cant tell if im doing it wrong because im playing to damn SLOW-- this is a very good and hard exercise.
Definition of polyrhythm, my friends. Right there. My favorite polyrhythm is the one Danny Carey made for the Tool song Rosetta Stoned, but this is really cool, too.
the way it sounds is completely objective, i might like it, and you might not, thats fine, but first of all its not super complex, its paradiddles man, simple as it gets, no weird rhythms or anything, just two very basic rudiments, second, beats and grooves dont lose musicallity as they become more complex, they just fit differently into the music they are applied to, keep an open mind
technically it is a polyrhythm as there are two contrasting rhythms played at once. And you cant possibly say this is "as simple as it gets." In theory it seems basic but until you can pull it off UP TO SPEED then i wouldnt say what your saying. I do agree with everything else you said but to imply this rhythm is simple is rediculous
It actually is fairly simple, its just a coordination nightmare. Difficult to play =/= complex. A perfect example would be playing a single stroke roll between your left hand and left foot. Incredibly simple, but also very difficult to play up to speed. Thats because its a type of coordination that we don't practice as much as we should. I don't even think I could hit 180 or 190 doing that.
that's my problem with virgil as well,.. it's all super complex what he does and all we can do is respect that cause we can't play it.. but.. it often sounds like two drummers who play weird shit against each other.. it doesn't find a place in music and i think u can hear that on the planet x records.. to me, it sucks. but virgil rules nonetheless.
virgil's adorable...! the way he talks to the crowd and gets them going is just magnificent! aside from being a great drummer he is also very good with people...
lol his frigin mad this guy
gshdrums 2 months ago
Are you f'in kiddin' me??????? Amazing!!!!
WBVIEW 4 months ago
alien!!!
isaacdrums23 4 months ago
At 1:28 you can tell he has to think about it, whew that encouraged me and proved he's human.
marHAVIK 5 months ago
@marHAVIK Maybe he was thinking of what they were serving for lunch. :)
cockupcb 5 months ago
@cockupcb Dammit you're right, I have no chance.
marHAVIK 5 months ago
Thanks for giving me a lot of work master Donati.
Impossible guys ?
- watch?v=NVGvdM4XcI0
- watch?v=kHDnOYGWxC0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
AlexJadidrummer 6 months ago
everybody started laughing because they all thought it was kinda impossible... but well there's impossible to normal people and impossible to virgil donati... well actually no there is no impossible to virgil donati :D
c0d3x001 6 months ago
fuck fuck fuck... dats fuckin horrible to try out.!!! this man is great.!!
soham2rescue 8 months ago
I dont agree that it gives a nice feel. thats was difficult as hell but sounded like shit.
antibulletdodger101 8 months ago
Wicked balance and control, somewhat difficult exercise but you build on it little by little. For myself I find being ambidextrous helps pull off some strange and cool grooves. Still, I'm more than sure I'm gonna trip a few times trying this one out!!!
freakybilly6971 8 months ago
DAMN. I thought Virgil Donati was gonna be the new Dream Theater drummer, really. But Mike Mangini's the man too. But seriously, this is crazy! It's like cutting your body in half!!
theyellowsubmarine07 8 months ago
ho my god !!! what a brain !!
manuenes1 9 months ago
Paradiddle??? do guitar players now get to call that one cool thing the Weediddle? Wee diddle wee diddle weearouwwgh wa wa warrgh!
TheJombur 10 months ago
One of these days he's gonna come out and say, so we do a paradiddle with the right side, a double paradiddle with your left side, and a triple paradiddle using your chest and face....and you know what....itll sound funky too
percdann 10 months ago 2
amazing
mdj1104 10 months ago
2nd method: Bottom up. 1st, play a single paradiddle (no accent) between right hand and r. foot 20X. Double paradiddle (no accent) on the left 20X. Go back and add accents (20X). Now go back to the 1st method and inch your way along the music again. Even if you get stuck on the 1st few notes, repeat up to that point 20X. Then continue. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was Mr. Donati. Remember, 1 limb on the left is always hitting at the same time as 1 on the right. You can do it!
DougDinsdale 10 months ago
This is a great, highly challenging, but NOT unthinkably challenging groove. You just have to be patient and break it down. 1 method: Top down. Learn the basic rhythm. No matter how complex the sticking, the rhythm shouldn't change. It's 6 against 4 (double paradiddle vs. single p.) Write as singles (hands only) and play it 20X as a check pattern. Then write out the whole pattern (full set) play it 1 beat at a time until you get stuck. Play up to that point 20X. Keep adding notes. Cont...
DougDinsdale 10 months ago
unreal
soul68ou1 11 months ago
I dont know if some of you guys told before, but this paradiddle appear in the beginning of the song The Thinking Stone of the album Quantum... its really sick!!
nigelt17 11 months ago
I dont know if some of you guys told before, but this paradiddle appear in the beginning of the song The Thinking Stone of the album Quantum... its really sick!!
nigelt17 11 months ago
one word to describe this........mindfuck
JonnyFunkMistro 1 year ago
OMG, please give him a page on Guinness Book.
ClaudioReisBatera 1 year ago
@ClaudioReisBatera or better yet, a whole book lol
startrooper64 10 months ago
All I have to say is... Holy Shit.
freezerbabies 1 year ago
1:28-1:35 you see that shit, kiddies? Look at that face. LOOK AT THAT FACE. That's the face of FOCUS.
teamgod 1 year ago 2
@Americant47 Well put, bro! I dont get what the fuck is wrong with all of these whiny little bitches posting comments on here about music and drumming when they dont know shit about it! Virgil is one of the most amazing drummers I have ever seen, along with Gavin Harrison, Dogac Titiz, Marco Minnemann and others. He takes drumming to a whole other level. One that is reserved for the gods of drumming. I dont give a fuck what anyone says. Anyone who doesnt like Virgil is an ignorant moron!
soundmind529 1 year ago
Respect. So much I had to cut my ears and fingers off and send the rest back for a refund.
Amazing man.
KnowKnot 1 year ago
I'd have an easier time touching my right elbow with my right hand than trying to play this.
Kroy5312 1 year ago 2
Need a frontal labotomy to get this!!!!!
Crazyboutdrums 1 year ago
i thought it was charlie sheen playing for a second
CJay2303 1 year ago
thomas lang does this pattern in creative coordination but he does it R hand Left Foot and L hand to Right Foot so its cross diagonal. Lang and Virg are monsters
2516665 1 year ago
@2516665 Spot on dude.
Crazyboutdrums 1 year ago
paradidle is crazy virgil rulezzzz
mapexvx1 1 year ago
Nobody touched this guy on many levels. His mental indepence is untouchable. Nobody now has a better left hand in tradirional grip. Nobody does bass drum work at his level. and nobody has his endurance.
realdrummer110 1 year ago
Dat is like super crazy. I gotta learn dat one. Lol! Dat very first one.
MrUSChopper06 1 year ago
uh.... This might take me a week to learn, but I'm gonna learn it, haha
ANDRExDEY 1 year ago
And what plays right hand and right foot? I didn't get that...frff rfrr?
Fantasmo81 1 year ago
@Fantasmo81 that's right
allmetaliswelcome 1 year ago
i reckon virgil is easily in the top 5 ''out of this world'' drummers.
other candiates being dave weckl, tomas haake, jojo mayer?
i mean, grooves aside, i could never dream of being as unbelievably technically accomplished as these guys!
residentdrummerpete 1 year ago
brain meltingly phenomenal
MrHydrogoon 1 year ago
When I told my friend that this guy sounded like my broken Sears washing machine, I was slapped hard and fast in the face.
My sandwich meat flew all over the place and crumbs and cheese and meat and lettuce were all over the place.
My friend said I was a fricken' dumb fool.
I said that Travis Barker flies upside down on his solos and stuff.
My friend laughed and slapped me again. My face was red & my ears were stinging.
Chicks laughed at me. I felt like a little mousie fool.
JoeJacari 1 year ago 48
@JoeJacari Your friends know what's up! Listen to your friends!
ElizarTringov 1 year ago
@JoeJacari you are fuc ing Hysterical!!! virgil is cyborg drummer with ultra sensitive groove!!! you have a good friend!! travis rocks his ass off.........but, Virgil's in a class all his own!
livingdollshoppe 1 year ago
@JoeJacari Do you still need another slap? Are you no longer a mousie fool?
TranslucentPlenum 9 months ago
@JoeJacari this story again?
pedrohgromero1 8 months ago
I'm a drummer: this guy is good, not amazing.
Likeyoucare 1 year ago
@Likeyoucare his coordination is far beyond most drummers and for that reason he is amazong, along with craig blundell and thomas lang, with regards to coordination. Even though I dont really like thomas lang, it has to be said that his coordination is unbelievable
w9jon 1 year ago
@Likeyoucare im also a drummer i think he's amazing...basicly it comes down to personal preference
billtalentfreak202 1 year ago
@Likeyoucare if you think that this guy isn't amazing then you are not drummer!
Nickdrummer142 1 year ago 3
@Nickdrummer142
He's not amazing. He's very talented, not amazing.
Likeyoucare 1 year ago
danny carey is better(:
cashmerestaten 1 year ago
@cashmerestaten Danny Carey is one of my idols, I'm a percussionist myself and Carey is nowhere near the same league as Donati- not even close. Donati has an independence in his rhythms that very few drummers have matched, to find Donati's league, you'd have look at Akira Jimbo
deejaykage 1 year ago
@deejaykage Well said...
47TheSteve 1 year ago
Seriously gang, don't even try to make comparisons to Virgil. Of course a few others, in their own right, can compare, i.e., Weckl, Colaiuta, Chambers, etc. but don't even go to the rock scene for comparisons because not one rock drummer even scratches the surface of greatness that is Virgil Donati. And this includes my lifetime idols, Peart, Portnoy & Bonham. None are close. Perhaps Bobby Jerzombek is closest. No disrespect to any drummer. Virgil is just that good.
47TheSteve 1 year ago 7
@47TheSteve ...and he's Australian =)
Drewberry32 1 year ago
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47TheSteve 1 year ago
@47TheSteve I most certainly am. Sydney born and bred. I appreciate your words and am proud that something from our soil has been had an impact on your life. I am very sorry for your loss.
Drewberry32 1 year ago
@Drewberry32 Cool. My niece spent a year in Sydney a couple years ago for college and said it was amazing. I've heard Sydney is incredible.
Thanks for the comments. Much appreciated.
Be well mate.
47TheSteve 1 year ago
@47TheSteve well said. I think too many people are literally just unaware of the divide of technicality between those you have mentioned.
Drewberry32 1 year ago
@Drewberry32 Nostalgically, we all like and want to cling to our favorites, myself included, but we have to be realistic as we're doing so. I'm the first to say, drumming is not a competition. I completely get that. As a matter of literal fact we simply must face the fact that in life some are more gifted than others. It doesn't, nor should it, negate the skill of any other however. There's enough talent, fortunately, to go around. I'm just being realistic beyond contention into admiration.
47TheSteve 1 year ago
@47TheSteve Couldn't agree with you more.
Drewberry32 1 year ago
@Drewberry32 When you think about it, most people who make comments on here aren't drummers or boxers or scientists or singers, etc. so these people, in an attempt to be heard, just speak off the top of their head for the most part. It's not that they aren't entitled to their opinion, because they are. It's just that their opinions don't hold as much water in that, they really don't understand the vernaculars of what they're commenting on. Most aren't deep thinkers either, unfortunately.
47TheSteve 1 year ago 23
@47TheSteve well said...
deejaykage 1 year ago
@47TheSteve When i think about it i most people arrived her for a reason and the opinions are opinionated. I am a drummer/guitar player/singer my father was a boxer and i do not know what a "scientist" is.
TheJombur 10 months ago
ouchhh thats good i will practice tomorrow , i hope that can do it =(
jeffdrummer 1 year ago
Like a huge pizza, his brain is devided into 32 pieces.
ClaudioReisBatera 1 year ago 2
Well watching this video show's that it's definitely possible to do, just lots of hard work
TomashcroftSL 1 year ago
he´s got michael jacksons nose
antibulletdodger101 1 year ago
thats why we all need to practice more. simple ideas that are dificult to pull off. that was sick.
phatalvideo 1 year ago
wow! look at whats happening in his head! thats intense! i got 2 hours to learn this
xotankox 1 year ago
GREAT DRUMMER ,,, AND HE LOOKS LIKE CHARLIE SHEEN EVEN MOORE COOL
tincho019 1 year ago
he just casually tells us to try something that is completely impossible...
Leheno 1 year ago
@Leheno and then he does it (:
tolisdrums 1 year ago
el "drum groove" mas kabron que e escuchado ,este tipo esta loco eso es amor al instrumento!!!!!! MAESTRO!!!!
lKMKZl 1 year ago
It's all four-way independence. I went to one of his clinics and he showed everyone there his whole concept of thinking in left and right limb phrasing (the left limbs play this pattern and the right limbs play another pattern on top of it). It's all truly mind-blowing how he can create such beats and patterns that sound musical and dynamic, yet appear like gibberish on paper. He's one of the best out there nowadays.
simplyunclassifiable 1 year ago
@simplyunclassifiable Yeah I went to a clinic in CT a few years ago, I don't understand how he can separate two things in his head like that. He's a beast! I actually got a sabian HHX from the set he was playing signed and everything!
DrumGuitarist1379 1 year ago
The master...hehehe
paulosemifusa 1 year ago
he has two brains man!! that is the only explanation for this!
regresion777 1 year ago
@regresion777 Reminds of something I saw years ago on Johnny Carson.
Doc Severinsen (Johnny's band leader/trumpet player) could actually whistle one song while humming another at the same time.
You wanna talk about two brains?!?! My face exploded even considering doing that! LoL
Virgil just ain't right man. Impossible shite!!!
OneSteveUnderGod 1 year ago
it's a paradiddle, earthlings
sachamun 1 year ago
Now shift the second paradiddle a 16th note out of phase with the first :P
PickUpYourLighters 1 year ago 4
@PickUpYourLighters NOOOOO THANK YOU! the normal paradidle groove is hard enough :P haha do not tell me you can do that... i will have to blow my face off -_- lol
LiveYungDieFast 1 year ago
@LiveYungDieFast ^__^ I know... this man is ridiculous.
PickUpYourLighters 1 year ago
0:08 I thought he's reading his speech :D lol
krolik552 1 year ago
Great video. It's helped me to realize that I can't even play a double paradiddle with my snare and hi-hat never mind the paradiddle Virgil suggests at the same time on the other side.
I wonder how much xylophone lessons are :P
OneSteveUnderGod 1 year ago
@OneSteveUnderGod haha know how you feel
maqprus 1 year ago
This man is incredible !
mulotwo 1 year ago
This is fuckin hard to play
maqprus 1 year ago 2
wow! just wow! I am not even a drummer but this is just amazing to watch!
Guitareben 1 year ago
Try this one at home. This man is truly a pioneer of his craft. One of the greatest
chatachichi23 1 year ago
he has such a lisp :P
rockgod111 1 year ago
He´s a machine...
TheBAGGEN 1 year ago
yo dude ya description is incorrect he plays double paradiddle between the left hadn and foot and a single paradiddle between his right hand and foot
Btolbertjr 1 year ago
@Btolbertjr he does both in this vid R-tard
BandThisRedDecember 1 year ago
This is a man that has practiced what nobody ever will on a drum set, hours of his life have been put onto this instrument as part of it... that's achieving something.. Great Virgil, great...
MrDannyDrummer 1 year ago
hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of practice to get this kind of ambidexterity
rdaniels95 1 year ago 2
I think it need more hours.
antibulletdodger101 1 year ago
Fuck man you must have a great indepence fot this
BoomHaaften 1 year ago
sufferin' succotash!
BlooBeluga 1 year ago
two and a half man!! jojo
efvio 1 year ago
I like how he talks, he's got that cool accent and it's like he has some lisp and it makes you really sit down and listen to what he says....Plays awesome too, one of my favorite drummers
Marvin24241 1 year ago
that is some astounding stuff . . one of the most perfect licks for showing off for slack jawed teenagers at a clinic. BRAVO!
Laight4work 1 year ago 2
He talk so funny
19YelloW88 1 year ago 13
@19YelloW88 just like sid from Ice age :P
Trentaur 1 year ago
@19YelloW88 He has a lisp, haven't you ever heard one before?
DavidPartay 1 year ago
@DavidPartay I've heard of course
19YelloW88 1 year ago
@19YelloW88 He's also Australian.
josephjester 1 year ago
OMG....That was crazy:)
Toto99fan 1 year ago
Practiced it a bit yesterday and some today...getting better at it
chumbukket 2 years ago
i have tried this pattern just today and it is impossible without seeing it written down... if your stuck just write it down and dont think about playing paradidles/double paradiddles... just play what you read
LiveYungDieFast 2 years ago
yeah that's what I did...and eventually it becomes fluent enough to not even have to think about it
ricyarborough 2 years ago
im working on double paradiddles with my feet and single paradiddles with my hands and i no what your talking about its all fine alone but when you put um together it become very hard i needed to write it down. im doing this one next as soon as i get it down
letithappen87 2 years ago
anyone else tried doin this?
I shedded it for like..2 or 3 hours and once you get it it falls under the hands pretty sweetly!
sounds good too!!
ricyarborough 2 years ago
damn i dont think any amount of practice will allow me to do this
andrevth 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure that this is actually impossible. there's a midget down there doing the double. I SWEAR IT!
kodster 2 years ago
Virgil Donati belongs to a small group of people who excel drumming perfection.
Rickshawman5 2 years ago 3
he has too much time on his hands
paisteguy799 2 years ago
you might be right if playing drums wasn't actually his job.
funkbeastbasslover 2 years ago
I thought that any second his brain would just shut off by looking at his face. A very interesting combination though.
dunivanh 2 years ago
this guy is a genius!
pokeisthermz250rider 2 years ago
lol...lombardo cannot even be compared to virgil, virgil is very far ahead for lombardo to even touch
lordzilfallon 2 years ago 48
@lordzilfallon in my book theres some that come close but nobody is as good as virgil hands down...but there are some damn good players out there
VegaWgn 1 year ago
@lordzilfallon I think even Lomabardo would agree with you there, much as Lombardo comes from a jazz background and his work with Fantomas is (in my opinion) the best thing he's ever done, it doesn't even come to close to the technicality and groove of what this guy can do.
WastedDayMusic 1 year ago
@lordzilfallon you're right, i hate stupid people who say "lombardo is sooo good!" when they know just 3 drummers. geez that fucking piss me off
MagicalJohnny 1 year ago
@MagicalJohnny Lombardo isn't even the best drummer to have played in Slayer.
Golem29 1 year ago
It doesn't matter what grip one plays, if it's good, it's good.
'Freddy [Gruber] will talk until the cows come home about how there really isn't a difference between the two [grips]...' - Dave Weckl, Modern Drummer, 1997.
uzielis 2 years ago
and one more thing,
to anyone wondering whos better virgil or lombardo
virgil couldnt replace lombardo in his band
because lombardo does slayer best
BUT
virgil could play ANY of lombardos beats, fills, patterns, etc
NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND
lutherrrr 2 years ago
easy to understand, not so easy to play
regardless
i think the shit grooves
lutherrrr 2 years ago
lol this is so easy
moncononight 2 years ago
hes gota lisp!! hahah
noah112234 2 years ago
im tryin to learn this people i shit u not this is insanly tricky
FREAK
XxGhHEROxX 2 years ago
wow. I can barely play the drums now.
itsnotbutter13 2 years ago
f*ck
...
me
Ghostlysabotage 2 years ago
omfg this is insane!
21sabiandrummer67 2 years ago
I wonder how he thinks about it while playing. I've managed to learn to play the first groove but I have to follow the double paradiddle in my mind and memorize where the paradiddle aligns with it. Theres no way in hell i can think about both at once but you can kind of cheat that way and perform the same beat by thinking about one half of the equation .
Dreammotive 2 years ago
yeah im sure you can learn how the beats fall togheter...but Virgil plays this so un-robotic and floating i think he thinks about them both...remember hes independence skills are totally amazing.
888erkan888 2 years ago
yeah and another evidence of that is that he actually plays it wrong at first but then pulls it together. It really gives you the sense that he is thinking about each half seperately and correcting it.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
wow I didnt noticed he failed first. Thats just amazing that he corrected it. Im sure he can control the dynamics in them how ever he wants to too. Imagine how "open" hes mind got to feel while he plays!
888erkan888 2 years ago
Yes you can tell he's thinking about both at once. Ive been working on this for about a week now. The 1st day was a huge headache. But each day I get faster with it and can almost make it groove. When you follow one side of the pattern and then memorize how the 2nd side correlates you can pull it off. Now when I play it over and over I have split seconds where I can think about both at once. I think you can eventually learn the independence through mass repetition.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
I really wonder if he just says I think ill play a double paradiddle over a paradiddle and then figures it out within a minute, whereas Ive spent a week on it and still cant play it quite as fast and with ZERO freedom.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
Thats a good question! When i was a bit younger and didnt understood how this independence stuff worked i thought Virgil good play to two songs at the same time! Offcouse, the rytms has to make connection to each other. About your practise, yes i think youre on the right path. Maybe you just begins to hard or something. I wouldnt be surprised of Virgil's first independence stuff was the triple bassdrum workouts on "Power drumming", which is a good lesson.
888erkan888 2 years ago
It's referred to as "unconscious competence" where you needn't think about it anymore. Same as everything else, start slow and progress until the speed is up to snuff.
Now, if only the hell I could play it! LoL
MuscleBound46 2 years ago
unconscious competence... Isnt it amazing what the human mind can do. It doesnt seem possible but it realy is. And you CAN play it. Just follow you're own advice- Learn the 1st beat of the measure, then the 2nd, etc until you've got it. Theres no speed or rudimental chops required for this one so you just build it step by step. Takes patience though!
Dreammotive 2 years ago 2
jesus fuck.
he's actually counting in his head and thinking of it as hes playing it.
AMAZING
let's see those WGI guys do this shit LOL
TenorPlayer1800 2 years ago
Uhhh they probably could!
drumzac 2 years ago
yea i know i was just messing, but u gotta give independence to this guy over MOST wgi drummers. some of them dont even play set, which is the epitome of independence drumming.
TenorPlayer1800 2 years ago
so retarded. independence like that is so hard to master
ElephantEric 2 years ago
i trying to practice this but i have a question-- if the left limbs start off with the hi hat to get that back beat groove, do the right limbs start with the floor tom or the bass? i cant tell if im doing it wrong because im playing to damn SLOW-- this is a very good and hard exercise.
parkmusjesse 2 years ago
do both, i'd recommend.
And then try to do every possibility.
Beaudereck 2 years ago
not much of a fan of portnoy ...but bobby is pretty good....much better I think than portnoy....and of course the virg is bad ass!
wjdsmith 2 years ago
Definition of polyrhythm, my friends. Right there. My favorite polyrhythm is the one Danny Carey made for the Tool song Rosetta Stoned, but this is really cool, too.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
Pussies like Jarzombek and Portnoy say... "I can do that"
TranslucentPlenum 2 years ago
Pussies like you insult two amazing drummers
Geddywoots 2 years ago
better than me yes, Jarzombek, better that the two, but compared to Virgil, Every drummer is apussy.
TranslucentPlenum 2 years ago
No one can do this....you've got to be kidding me. It's like learning drums all over again.
DCussen 2 years ago
"Right foot and right hand play a single paradiddle against that." Then the people just laugh. That's great.
sefeed65 2 years ago
:O virgil is crazy
andothedrummer 2 years ago
Definitely not human.
Oilev 2 years ago 25
hes a robot..
hendrixian1 2 years ago
It's really more likely that he's an alien... You know higher intelligence, that sort of thing.
TranslucentPlenum 2 years ago
Awesome groove. Steals it.
cdmacdonald2112 2 years ago 3
wow that's badass let me try > fail.
LHondrums 2 years ago 5
thats real cool
rastadrumma 2 years ago
fuck, why is this guy so much better than me at drums...
sh4ne 2 years ago
This is a great exercise, and if you move your left hand to the hi hat and right to the snare you get some insane zaps going.
jascm31 2 years ago
I agree - WITH EVERYONE HERE
mojokind13 2 years ago
at 0:17, did he say cool or cruel? cuz this groove iz pretty freekin evil! sweet tho
shadowchenery 2 years ago
cruel
atheismwins 2 years ago
super complex.. and sounds like SHIT.. no surprise there
winnerbaby44 2 years ago
the way it sounds is completely objective, i might like it, and you might not, thats fine, but first of all its not super complex, its paradiddles man, simple as it gets, no weird rhythms or anything, just two very basic rudiments, second, beats and grooves dont lose musicallity as they become more complex, they just fit differently into the music they are applied to, keep an open mind
lutherrrr 2 years ago 4
complex to put it together
and id like to see one music that would fit in and sound GOOD
winnerbaby44 2 years ago
technically it is a polyrhythm as there are two contrasting rhythms played at once. And you cant possibly say this is "as simple as it gets." In theory it seems basic but until you can pull it off UP TO SPEED then i wouldnt say what your saying. I do agree with everything else you said but to imply this rhythm is simple is rediculous
qoxohifo 2 years ago 2
It actually is fairly simple, its just a coordination nightmare. Difficult to play =/= complex. A perfect example would be playing a single stroke roll between your left hand and left foot. Incredibly simple, but also very difficult to play up to speed. Thats because its a type of coordination that we don't practice as much as we should. I don't even think I could hit 180 or 190 doing that.
remedyz0802 2 years ago
in my mind:
simple/ complex=understanding
easy/ hard=playiblity
lutherrrr 2 years ago
exactly xD
RushSnakeAndArrows 2 years ago
that's my problem with virgil as well,.. it's all super complex what he does and all we can do is respect that cause we can't play it.. but.. it often sounds like two drummers who play weird shit against each other.. it doesn't find a place in music and i think u can hear that on the planet x records.. to me, it sucks. but virgil rules nonetheless.
LHondrums 2 years ago
virgil's adorable...! the way he talks to the crowd and gets them going is just magnificent! aside from being a great drummer he is also very good with people...
cipherism 2 years ago
another guy with "more than 1 brain".
hamaknaflint 2 years ago
The man...total genius...true original :-)
Har4321 2 years a