League of Legends - S2 Jungle Dr Mundo

[DontGoChanging7]

will you be doing a team battle video for mundo? I'd love to see what sort of items you go for, i plan to do some experimenting, because I can't seem to find any good guides for jungling him

[AugustDekan]

Cool, but what do you make the vamp scepter into?

[yourmum30]

im hungry

[ClutchClick]

Pretty amazing how fast golem gets raped >_<

[MrJanick8]

you need blue buff for ore manareg.

[Maxoto]

I use Boot + pot

and W Q W

wraith > Red > Golem > wraith

U're lvl 3 when they are still 2

:/ i know u did it before but just sharing

[falkflyer]

So why did you start W in your team battle vid but E here? Was it the rune choices you had before? Because your team battle vid seemed much safer than this one.

[SheffiTB]

@falkflyer he said that if you either get a leash or have spellvamp quints, you can start with W, otherwise you'll die if you start with W.

I've actually done it with elixir + 6 pots (weirdest build ever, I know, but I have a faster clear time and have more hp than this vid, and what are you going to build vamp scepter into?) with WEEQ though.

[coolcam44]

New video with new runes?

[T0getherAlone]

Just wondering If you could go into greater detail as for masteries and path now that Spell vamp quints are the new cool on Mundo.

[abohnsen19]

@T0getherAlone Here's a link for Stonewall's updated Tierlist: rog(dot)clgaming(dot)net/blogs­/jungle/5485-jungle-tier-list-­ziggs-era

Go down to the second last champion before the big graph thingy with all Champions and you'll see how you do Mundo properly.

[bebopbountyhead]

Spellvamp Quints, 3 AS Marks, 6 ArPen Marks, Armor Seals, AS Glyphs.  Cloth+5, double golem-wraiths-wolves-lizard-go­lems-wraits-wolves-blue-wraith­s-golem. Lvl5 in 4:45. Buy mandreds & pots. Dragon lvl 6/7(just potentially, ofc).

[Sploog321]

Though I have not practiced it yet. I have it all the runes ready and have my masteries set up 3/15/12 grabbing all MS boosts and getting increased spellvamp for better sustain.

[opposition22]

do you plan to do a jungle runble?

[Sploog321]

Will you make a newvid with spellvamp quints like you said on your tier list?

[stonewall008]

@Sploog321 When i can afford them

[Sploog321]

@stonewall008

I will assume hismasteries will go more into defense and utility but what wull his runes look like?

[buMonko]

@stonewall008 "when you can afford them" - if these are something you don't have yet, I'm kind of excited to see what opportunities are yet to be discovered with spv quints. I definitely think jungle cass would be an obvious benefit. Just the small spv from utility tree is noticeable. I even think someone like shyvana could see some change. I'm saving up for these.

[nater9999]

@Sploog321 One interesting thing to note, with spell vamp reds, you gain a total of 140 life in the jungle after a full clear. Thats one red pot.

[coolcam44]

I went armor pen red, armor yellow, magic resist per level blue, and armor pen red. It worked, but I went cloth armor. But hey... Could it be because of the AS buff that it worked? :o

[sexuallmoses]

Have u tried jungleing him with smite and revive the way you used to play eve? I find it incredibly fast but I'm not completely sure on it. Can u give it a try and see what you think?

[stonewall008]

@sexuallmoses taking revive is stupid

[sexuallmoses]

@stonewall008 I know it sounds stupid but so did smite revive eve and that was OP as shit. I'm just asking you to give it a try. Seen some dude do it at around 1800 elo but not sure if trolling.

[servernyolen]

Oh and i forgot details - cloth+5, W first and 9-21-0 masteries. Still faster. brb testing further :)

[servernyolen]

Same runes and same path, but with cloth+5 start and W first will make it much safer and faster.

[gunha9]

Is there anyway yog can do it with his e?

[stonewall008]

@gunha9 /facepalm

[yewtubepl0x]

@stonewall008

I love you stonewall, I face palmed at gunha9's comment also.

[ehemyo]

@gunha9 I don't think you realize he's mostly using ONLY his E skill.

[IDBC94]

Is armor pen red ever needed in the jungle now?

[ManusCelerDei]

really can't pull this off, tried it quite a bit. not sure where i'm going wrong

[blkbeltmage]

@ManusCelerDei

if you want super fast clear, go with w e w, cloth 5 and attack speed runes

[Unde4dHun7r]

Do you build wriggles on this or starks? thank you

[Silith13]

I'm probably saying something stupid but how about moveing Armor Pen to the reds and addign life steal quints? The huge steroid on Mundo's E coupled with enough armor pen en attack speed should make him more sustained.

Yes he will lose speed ofc.

[Manwlatsi]

@Silith13 Life steal quints are useless

[EpicExplosives]

TLDR?

read tags.

[LemonsOnRye]

What is the tier list btw?

[Bog2901]

MUNDO MUNDO

[bluGlol]

Eh with LL quints and armor yellows I got 3:16 with a small leash at wraiths. It was very safe. I also did golems before the 2nd wraiths.

[theoneandonlytanker]

copying dyrus in state of league saying let that sink in eh?

[stonewall008]

@theoneandonlytanker because Dyrus is the first person to use that...

[TerjeSC]

@theoneandonlytanker this video was up before dyrus said that on SotL. If anything dyrus saw this video as he used both the time 3:20, and the "Let that time sink in".

@stonewall008 keep up the good work, i enjoy all your videos :)

[TerjeSC]

@TerjeSC And the same item.

[TRexDreams]

Can u pls put a video of jungle mundo with his W ?

[knightofdread]

yeah i finally get to see this

[Cuzerus]

Hey stonewall pls do jungle leona i can see she has jungling potential

[Nowzies]

@Cuzerus No she doesn't, sorry. Can't clear, can't sustain. Her ganks are obviously great, but you'd be better of roaming with her than jungling. And there's a whole new set of problems with that.

So no, no jungle Leona until Riot does the smart thing and lets her pop her freaking passive (or reworks her passive altogether because it's seriously fucking retarded).

[amann95]

Hey stonewall, when u have time can u jungle Sejuani... i dont know if ppl here already asked u to do that or u are already doing that...Any-case tnx 

[amann95]

@amann95 hehe didnt saw it...tnx for upload 

[dyslexicmelon]

Team battle Talon? :D

[reifnotreef]

No more Q?

Isn't it still better for red/blue to use cleaver, or do you need the lifesteal boost from E?

[1specucryable]

couldnt most junglers have the same clear time if not faster if they used a full as speed rune page like you did in this vid. alot junglers have 3:30 clear times while using flat armor yellow and scaling mr blues.

[ham236]

It's about 5 seconds faster to start with W, and you can be leashed red because you get there so quick

[JuanFerJaC]

Hey Stonewall are you going to upload a Dr.Mundo Team Battle....???!!!

[bguerre12]

I dont know if your summoners were exactly what you use in game stonewall, but I would suggest cleanse instead of exhaust , you have cleaver for slow and ignite is mundos worst enemy =/

[servernyolen]

@bguerre12 that awkward moment when you find out Cleanse doesn't remove healing and regen debuff...

[550CHAMP550]

@servernyolen That awkward moment when you realize it does.

[dasheefo]

@550CHAMP550 it doesnt go try it -_-

[dasheefo]

@dasheefo does*

[ham236]

@550CHAMP550 do research before you make yourself look like a retard

[lnspir3]

@bguerre12 Cleanse only removes the damage portion of Ignite, the healing reduction penalty still applies.

[MegaKoxs]

Stonewall can u remake shaco jungle since theyfucked up theboxes

[JonnyD0G87]

with mundo buffs?

[kfijatass]

What say you for Crit chance reds over AS reds? Can you tell a difference? Also, EWW surprised me. Wouldn't EWE be better?

[1daggerz1]

@kfijatass no since 1 more lvl in e would give it like 5 extra dmg while 1 more lvl in w would take off more hp giving u much more damage from e and aoe damage

[JustASuscriber]

@kfijatass W is AoE, faster clear, E won't help you in ganks and you have Q for the slow.

[omega52390]

so fast is crazy sadly he has olaf syndrome as expected

[lLuCiiFeRl]

Please stonewall, can you do a new jungle Skarner video please, with the nerfs to him I want to see if he is still as good as he was with the increased mana costs

[stonewall008]

@lLuCiiFeRl or you can try it yourself?

[slimshedim]

@stonewall008 I didn't notice any big changes while jungling, but you might have mana issues during transition, depending on your build.

[Silith13]

@slimshedim mana issues on mundo?

[slimshedim]

@Silith13 Naw, was talking about post recent nerf Skarner.

[MrFoptop]

@lLuCiiFeRl hes still very good, he just is a little more hungry on mana.

[CaptainOLOLOL]

@lLuCiiFeRl because the same video with the same bluebuff will change so much ...

[bastianagent007]

what the fuck he just fucking DESTROYS the camps

[DanielDKXD]

"slight buffs gave him the boost to not DIE in jangle but he stil has all his issues" stonewalls tags should be nerfed, they are too good

[fulegutten]

The virginity is strong with this one

[CidGuerreiro1234]

Mundo goeshh where he pleajshesss

[mTt3n]

MUNDO VIABLE?

[7zot]

@mTt3n hint: allways read the tags on stonewalls videos :D

[specthanatos]

I play him almost the same, but I do EQW. I like it more.

[Strawbclock0]

Team battle mundo?

[koelekikkers]

is this the remade dr mundo? or the old one?

[unmaltipo]

Epic music.

[wizzkiller92]

Woop woop thanks stonewall

[DreamMorpheus42]

this is so effing sexy. With a power pull at wraiths red you are looking at a 3:10 time with a *much* better HP level. If you anticipate trouble you could always use a little less agony and slow yourself down. REALLY want to see you or SV doing this live ;)

[stonewall008]

@DreamMorpheus42 Actually you are NOT looking at a 3:10 clear speed. If you get a leash you won't take as much damage meaning you won't get as much from your steroid.

ALSO if you noticed - Mundo is forced to slow down for the wraith's to respawn. You will lose time just based on that. At most you'd shave off 3 seconds.

[bendybow]

@stonewall008 I found similar but you can get a really fast 3:15 if you take aggro of wraiths and red but get help woth damage, the bot has golems and you clear top, works really well.

[jesternario]

Could you do a basic jungle tutorial vid? I'm still having problem with concept ^_^

[FaliramoN]

can you tell me items ?

[Hothit05]

... Riot... FIX THE JUNGLE. This is COMPLETELY fucked up.

[Saintloljk]

@Hothit05 The jungle is fine, it used to be horrible, but they hotfixed it.

[thegreywizard96]

the soundtrack is the same as from rainman soundtrack

[reddemondrag]

Hey stonewall who do you believe is the fastest jungle? I don't remember anyone faster than mundo clocking in at 3:20.

[T3N54Z4NG3T5U]

@reddemondrag He said before that Olaf could probably be the fastest jungler.

[stonewall008]

@reddemondrag red path olaf so far has the time - however, replicating that with fraps lag is a real terror.

[hymerid]

Wow, didnt know jungle mundo was so quick and strong :O

[Killeratwar123]

Can i do the same tactic wirh shavana?

[huangalex98]

Jungle Katarina?

[huangalex98]

Jungle Katarina please

[Azimatix]

New viable for more competitive games?

[Stainlessat]

come for the music, stay for the video.

[Sixty9ingChipmunks]

Do you think this will be viable in competetive play?

[somanyyoucantcount]

Why do I feel like a high five from the enemy Nunu will kill you? :D

[RuckaInc]

Would life steal quints be better for that extra sustain? It seems like mundo has kinda an issue with that.

[IamBrooDtacular]

@RuckaInc Dude if there is 1 thing that Mundo does well, it's sustain.

[IamBrooDtacular]

@RuckaInc Dude if there is 1 thing that Mundo does well, it's sustain.

[Ramonpeiro]

so fucking fast,challenge acepted

[MegaKoxs]

What the fast jungle

[Kolya734]

Stonewall I must say I love your jungle videos, especially when they are of viable junglers. But I much prefer your Team Battle videos since I learn so much more from them. Could I be a bother and ask you to put more of those up?

[ClayMoreSP12]

Does cleaver proc red?

[JaidonnF]

@ClayMoreSP12 yes

[burntalive]

@JaidonnF You sure about that? They removed red proc on spells this patch.

Also, mundo's jangle. It's fast! It's Fun!

[JaidonnF]

@burntalive Ah maybe not then. I thought I saw it applied today with a veigar q. I will have to find out

[Planswalker89]

MUNDO WALK BY WOLVES AND KILL THEM WHEN HE PLEASES.

[BSonnemaker]

who's your favorite jungler out of all the champions you have tested?

[MakerWaffle]

I once saw Saint start with cleaver, thoughts?

[Sploog321]

yay! :D

[kindaeventful]

Lol I noticed you removed the comment of the guy that said "first". Thank you for doing the community a favor :)

[thershutj]

jungle dr mundo needs buff, give him ult at lvl 1 plsss

[ScruubYoMang]

Just tried this out and it was an amazing game, one of the more fun junglers, little unsafe but ganks are insane with low hp.

[SoGoodPie]

looks good and fun i will try him

[naievexx]

How about Cleaver instead of W at level 2 or 3? Allowing for some high damage on both blue and red buff as well as golem.

[Debousit]

Is 9/21/0 viable?

[Iratu]

Why do you have different ability icons for Burning Agony and Masochism? MUNDO REMAKE INCOMING!

[stonewall008]

@Iratu ...this is from the live game

[CRTJ4]

@Iratu Your a dumbass.

[mwllab]

@Iratu wat.

[lolh4x]

@Iratu Are you a retard?

[T3N54Z4NG3T5U]

@Iratu You've never played Mundo before have you?

[xJKChoii]

Saintvicious played jungle Mundo on his livestream before and he started with cleavers. Does starting with E have a better effect than starting with Q?

[zeckafernandes]

Mundo thinks u a big sissy.

[PabloLomez]

Stonewall, y u no be Corporate Mundo, aside from you probably not liking Mundo?

[DIChronicAddict1]

Im a 1200 Elo player and I get a leash about 10-15% of the time(if that). If your Elo is 85734 and you get a leash from your entire team, that's cool and all but most of us don't.

[latinajoseph]

does his Q still proc red?

[Dirik619]

@latinajoseph y

[latinajoseph]

@Dirik619 you really asking why? lol

[murtaghthekiller]

@latinajoseph

every single target spell does (non-dot)

[latinajoseph]

@murtaghthekiller read the patch notes. It says spell damage no longer procs lizard buffs

[mbaramid]

@murtaghthekiller As of today's patch, not anymore. Red buff has reverted to only basic attacks and things like GP's Parley.

[Bolinha226]

OMG awesome

[chronikoflife]

Holy shit

[minyou12]

If you have trouble getting people to help out, I'm sure there are people in the community or people you know willing to join your custom games and give you at least a standard leash on blue/red (mid auto + Q spell, top/bot using a spell and a few autos)

[stonewall008]

@minyou12 too much trouble for them and ultimately not what I want to do. Honestly these are so you can have "base" starting points. The team battles go more in depth.

[TheSage486]

@stonewall008 why wouldn't you take a 2nd point in E? I thought that the steriod would clear faster then the aeo from W?

[stonewall008]

@TheSage486 read the description

[MrWowgod]

@stonewall008 Are we going to see Mundo jump a bit on the tier list since he has a super fast clear? with his Q now applying red buff on top of its slow his ganks wouldnt be bad i assume.

[Thumpyf]

@MrWowgod red buff wont apply on spells now, it's in patch notes



[Jar0mir]

MOST

SAFE

JUNGLE

EVER

[gredenis]

@Jar0mir Malhazar disagrees ;)

[babaXIII]

@Jar0mir You never saw old 2m50 Tryndamere with Pot. That was insane.

[Manwlatsi]

@Jar0mir Tryndamere laughs at your comment.

[minyou12]

Stonewall, I really like your videos and appreciate all the work you do for the community, but it seems a bit pointless to release all these leash-less jungle videos. I am an average player but even in my elo (1300) people understand how to leash and even how to damage wolves/wraiths. I even see it in normals most of the time. While your videos do give us some information as to the strength of the jungler (and runes and masteries), they don't give an accurate representation of real jungle times.

[stonewall008]

@minyou12 that's why you watch the team battles

[Syvarris34]

@minyou12 But if he uses ALL junglers leash-less, doesn't that give you an accurate idea of how they match up? Especially in the new jungle, considering it's so easy, basically all junglers CAN jungle without a leash (although I would NEVER recommend it)

And for a lot of characters, not having a leash doesn't actually slow you down, it just makes your jungle a little bit less safe.

[Toan133]

I think jungling to his ult might make him really effective. He just uses it on cooldown in the jungle when he's below half health, and suddenly he has the health he needs to go gank or jungle some more.

[Machimachina]

That is quite amazing. Now the question is: turn Vamp scepter into Wriggles or Starks?

[TheBIueHurricane]

@Machimachina wriggles obviously, unless you have people on your team like vayne

[EscapingMortality]

Mundo gets annoyed as people say "Mundo does ___ as he pleases" as he pleases

[ButButButILY]

At first I was like... "Why is this video only 2 minutes long?!?!" Then I realized it's because Mundo can hit level 4 in 3 minutes >.>

[HackerJayC]

Mundo Jungles how he pleases

[DIChronicAddict1]

Seems like a decent jungler. Too bad throwing cleavers at people is so much more fun.

[goinbonkers202]

Holy shit, that speed. He seems like the new Olaf, he get low hp from jungle taps his E and suddenly everything dies.

[cheesefarts1]

is this the new buffed mundo?