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  • Nice job dude. This cult is GOIN' DOWN. SICK 'EM GOD!

  • The jehovah's witnesses are an insidious cult of fanatics. They are like the taliban, instead of guns and bombs to spread their religious dogma, they have perfected brainwashing. So many lives have been ruined by them. EXPOSE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE...EVIL

  • @dallywally If Jesus is, as the KJV translates it "the firstborn of all creation" then the word "other" is implied in the text by the use of the word "all".

    In scripture "all" does not necessary mean everything

    Are you suggesting that Paul meant Christ created himself Vs16?

    That Jesus was before God the Father Vs17?

    That Christ, too, needed reconciled to God Vs20?

    I believe "other" is a necessary to this passage especially, because of those who wish to negate "firstborn of all creation"

  • All translations including the KJV insert words to make things clearer. If you want the purest revelation of God's Word then learn how to read Hebrew and Greek.

  • @Mustanich ::: Since we have no originals, how do we know what we have now is "God's Word"?

  • Jehovah = Jesus = GOD ! Bible Clearly teaches & proves it ! I searched for the truth & Thank God.. by His grace & Guidence I have been taught by His holy Spirit that Jesus = Yahweh = God !

  • @jinu03

    i would like to hear from you your proves that Jesus is GOD.

    i am not JW.

  • The word other is in brackets these type of brackets: [ ]

    The words in those brackets are added so that it can make sense in english, and so you can understand better, because rlly if you took out those words in the brackets, sometimes the translation will be confusing, it's there to prevent confusion.

  • @DaynaPoo99 DaynaPoo, read it from the King James bible and get the real meaning.

  • @dallywally72 (Colossians 1:16-17) "because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him."

    That looks like All other to me... Q: "would that be a lie?" A: No. It's right there.

  • @aaaazzzzable Watch it again :/

  • @dallywally72 I don't mean to be rude but if you didn't know foreign languages use less words then English does. In other word you're basically saying the fact that we translated the bible is changing God's word. Which isn't true we simply "translated" it. We didn't "change" anything we made it as to were people who speak English understand. Get what I mean?

  • @DaynaPoo99 Colossians 1:15-16 is understandable to me without the usage by the NWT of the bracketed added word {other}, 4 times. Obviously the governing body decided upon the behalf of Jehovah's Witnesses that keeping Paul's inspired writing as is would have confused alot of people about what they were taught about Jesus. The governing body thus was wiser than Paul and his God inspired written verses. I am being sarcastic. Pulling words out of air and adding them to bible verses is WRONG!

  • In the New World Translation Bible if ou read the verse you would realize that other is in brackets.

    So what you are trying to prove is silly

  • @DaynaPoo99 I assume that you are a JW. Let me ask you a question: Who created the heavens and earth?

  • @blackmediaenterprise In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth(Genesis 1:1)

  • silly

  • I do not know a translation that does not do it in one way or another.

  • The Revelation verse on changing the bible is my favorite. Ohhhh they in trouble haha.

  • They didint change the SENSE of these verses. Whats the difference between all and all things?

  • @piekarnew1 you've completely missed the whole point of the video. Watch it again and you'll see the added/inserted word 'other'. The Greek doesn't have the word 'other', the New World Translation Writing Committee of the Watchtower added the word 'other'.

  • @dallywally72 How does the added word "other" changes the sense of the verse? Would you come to same conclusion that He created all things without the added word ?

  • @piekarnew1 That's a question you have to answer through reading the bible yourself. You might like watching my video called: Jesus is what?

  • @dallywally72 Yes, I STUDY the Biblie. Have you reached to this verse yet: 2 Timothy 2:23 ?

  • @piekarnew1 I'm not trying to be ignorant or start fights. I'm trying to show what God's inspired word says. 2 Timothy 2:15. :)

  • @dallywally72 Im glad, but looking into details like this, doesnt do anything. This added word doesnt change the sense or any doctrinal meaning and its admitted this word is only to help understand the verse better grammatically. - Ecclesiastes 7:16 :)

  • @piekarnew1 So do you agree that Jesus created everything?

  • @dallywally72 How would you interpret Colossians 1:15-16 then ?

  • @piekarnew1 John 1:1 King James 1st John 1:1-3(Eternal life) Genesis 1:1 ; Isaiah 44:6,24 Revelation 1:17-18(Jesus is the first and the last.) John 8:12 John 14:6 John 20:24-29 Isaiah 9:6. etc. :)

  • @dallywally72 Why are you trying to say ? You are mixing apples and oranges with some of theses verses.

  • @piekarnew1 That there is only one God, one creator, who created all things by himself. :)

  • @dallywally72 And you are correct. Just like an architect makes blueprints of a project and a contractor does the work. To whom the project belongs ? The architect. However Jesus couldn't create by himself and thats why he is the only one created personally by God.

  • @piekarnew1 What scripture is that from??

  • @dallywally72 Just an example for you to understand the verse better. Did u see the link i sent you? There is said THRU him which proves my example. You shouldn't use only one source like King James version. How were you taught to do research in school ?

  • @piekarnew1 Obviously from watching the video, I've looked at all bibles. :) That link you sent me is an Interlinear, and on the far right is the correct English translation which is found in the King James Bible. Have a good night.

  • @dallywally72 Oh, my fault. Then word translated to "by" in the King J isn't correct or misleading. As you might caught the word "through" is in the ORIGINAL script. So, the word "other" in context of all things doesn't play a role anymore. Goodnight :)

  • @dallywally72 More to that. It explains now why the word "other" was added. To explain the full meaning of the verse. its either "thru him all things..." or "all other things..." which both are correct and have the same meaning.

  • @piekarnew1 By him or through him means the same thing. If it meant differently, the Watchtower wouldn't have added the word 'other' to fit into their false doctrine which has mislead their poor innocent followers. I used to be a JW, and know how your mind is trying to work this out. The problem is that the Watchtower has become an abomination to God by changing words in his holy inspired bible. There are countless areas in the NWT where there are changes :(

  • @dallywally72 Its also good to know other languages, in my case im a native polish speaker. Ive checked many polish Biblie versions and the meaning is still the same. And i dont need to work this out bc its written in black and white. If "by" means "thru" then its still right. Through Jesus..., then who was the source?- His father who created him. Its really not that hard. The Bible is only one, no matter what version we can use, its all the same.

  • @piekarnew1 Where in the bible does it say that God created the Word(Jesus)? Like it says in 1John 1, The Word is/ was eternal. I don't want to see Watchtower information. I want to see scripture.

  • @dallywally72 John states that “in the beginning the Word was,” it means that the Word was the beginning of Gods creative works, “the beginning of the creation by God.” (Revelation 3:14). Even colossian 1:15 states that he is firstborn, begotten. Moreover look what Jesus said himself - John 6:57

  • @piekarnew1 Jesus has the preeminence in creation just as in Colossians 1:18 the firstborn from the dead. That's what the firstborn of creation is meant, the preeminence. Just like the firstborn nation Israel, they weren't the first ever nation, but had the preeminence. Revelation means Jesus created all things in the beginning. The Word is eternal, you cannot refute eternity. 1John 1:1-3. I don't understand how you cannot accept that. Those other scriptures I wrote explain it all in whole.

  • @dallywally72 I cannot accept what isnt in the Bible. Honestly, the Bible is simple and states cleary that Jesus is the Son of the God. How can Son exist before Father.... It also explains that the Father created everything else through/by him. I gave you self explanatory verses, It cant get any more logical than this. I think you are trying too hard. Anyway I think said what was needed bc this conversation wont lead to anything. have a nice weekend and be good :)

  • @dallywally72 I'm not saying Jesus existed before the Father, and yes Jesus is the Son of God, but you have not shown me and cannot show me from scripture that the Word was created. The bible says the Word is Eternal/Everlasting.

  • @piekarnew1 Question: When did the WTS stop believing that the KJV was not the inspire word of God? I'm going somewhere with this.

  • @dallywally72 Some of the changes just look plain out of place on the page.example... I tell you,today you will be with me in paradise. JW version reads... I tell you today,you will be with me in paradise.Notice the commer has been put after today instead of after the word YOU, although 50 times in the bible the commer is after the word you when Jesus says I tell you,.This change is to support there doctrine on nothingness after death.

  • @dallywally72  --------> cl. ly/BKSv (remove the space) this should conclude our conversation. you have the website there if you want to check the source.

  • The same thing occur with Mat 45:46.The Watchtower translates in his NWT the greek Word "elthōn" as "on arriving" instead of "having come".This subtle translation of the greek word "elthōn" has a bad-intention to change the time of Jesus second coming in the clouds of heavens, trying to make think to the readers of this bible text that Jesus arriving started in 1914, when in fact referes to the exact moment of his return, as having come only in the future after the great tribulation and not 1914

  • There's no wrong in ("other") I read Bible in Jehovah's Witnesses Official Website Watchtower and their are peaceful, full of love, and really obey God and Christ

  • can you show me what ps 83:18 

  • @WeWantDiamonds jehovah is his names like john 8-58 john -15-4 john20-29 col 1-16-20 heb1-16 col 2-3-9

    isa 43-3 isa 45-21-22 rev3-14 [beginning]] g746 storg number original read this rev 1-8 2-6 22-13 1-17-18

  • THE JEHOVA`S WITNESSES are Satanic organization

  • @Hovotiki stop being a racist. and that is not true.

  • @Hovotiki FUCK U

  • I created a special video for ex Jehovah's Witnesses

    Check out my channel and watch "Breakdown"

    Keep seeking and ye shall find...

  • Rom6:13 "Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead [v1-11 walk in newness of life...dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord], and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God."

    JWs, why yield yourself to be instruments of your unrighteous religious rulers, going about making converts as yourself, more instruments of these sinful men and their sinful words?

  • Meant to say: NWT not: NTW my mistake..

  • The WTBTS may just update the NTW, this will be called: New Light (New Understanding)

  • well done

    

  • It's interesting the bible talks about the fallen angels (watchers) as 'sons' of G-d. It refers to the believers as his sons & Yeshua is also the son of G-d. But there is one exception to Jesus. John 3:16- 1st John 4:9 refers to Yeshua as the ONLY begotten son of G-d. The bible never calls anyone else that but Yeshua. So Jesus is part of the G-dhead bc he wasn't created like us & angels.

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