Hahaha, you put the frightening 12 year old at the end *thumbs up*
I'd be worried about the mental state of anyone who DOESN'T find that horrifying.
Kudos on bringing up adoption too =)
I don't get why religious folks never want to help kids without parents, give them a loving home. Oh yeah, because they're selfish and want something that looks like themselves, and has no outside influences. Or maybe they'd never get accepted as adoptive parents because they're NUTS.
(continued) Sounds like they'll act however their husband wants them to act, so they're basically just an extension of their spouse, not their own individual person. Try and have an intellectual discussion and she'll just agree with you on every point you make. BORING.
(can't imagine they'd be creative and/or fun in the sack either..)
Oh, and on some of the pro-quiverfull sites you'll find articles about birth control causing cancer. Pure fear-mongering, it's disgusting.
Bc does cause cancer, likely. I say that because of the constantly smoking gun. It's synthetic hormone. That aside though, these quivertools are terrible.
In the one video I watched, a 12 y/o is all "I feel like it's a privilege to be helping my mommy. I don't feel like it's a burden or that I'm over-worked. My mom is training me and my sisters to be helpmates someday to our husbands"
*vomit*
Like, how much more boring can a woman get? It doesn't take much to shit out babies, we were all born with that ability. Why not do something more interesting? (continued in next comment)
it's completely EFFED up. I talked to a woman who escaped from it, she says the men in it are severely abusive. They look for women with low self esteem or learning disabilities.
7. ) When you raise someone that doesn't know any better to have those views and they go along with it be cause they don't know anything different or don't have any other choice but to go along with it ... that's the problem . I'm not saying these people are raising their children to be racist I was just using it as an example it's the SAME child brainwashing technique really .
6. ) Wouldn't that also be considered a form of brainwashing and therefore be considered child abuse because it's... um, brainwashing? It's one thing to be an extremist or in this case a fundamentalist by choice , it's not a crime to hold certain beliefs it is, however, a crime to force others to go along with your extremist views or hurt others because of those views .
5. ) I mean, take for example, a racist family that raises their children to be racist and doesn't let the children learn anything about other races of people other than what the parents want them to know to the extent they are even home schooled ( no chance at having a friend of another race ) therefore... they cant form there own opinions because the opportunity to find out about different races of people was taken away from them .
4. ) To me, that is child abuse because you are intentionally stunting or altering the thought process they would of otherwise had if they were given the freedom to think objectively and constructively .
3. ) By them having 50 million biological children.. there are no slates to wipe clean, you now have perfectly blank slates to imprint anything you'd like... it totally cuts out half the work you would normally have to do in order to brainwash a person because they are indoctrinated from the time of birth to know nothing outside of what you want them to know ON PURPOSE .
2. ) No outside influence that isn't first supervised by the parents, no room for independent or creative thought that's isn't first supervised by the parents ... humm sounds a lot like CULT brainwashing to me, the only difference is... you aren't going out and rounding up strangers to deprogram into your way of thinking .
1. ) I don't know if I agree with the term " training " your children. I mean you train a dog, you RAISE a child . I think instead of using the term " Train " they should just go a head and say BRAINWASH. I think the whole idea is kinda creepy . You raise ..no, wait I'm sorry, " train " your children to have no other thoughts other then what you've allowed them to have ....
There was only three reasons for having as many kids as these nutters do.. 1. Plagues would come along in the old days and you needed a lot of offspring to repopulate and also kids would easily die off. 2. FREE LABOR!! Especially during the industrial revolution. The more kids you had, the more money you'd rake in. and the third was to work the farm.. Duggars are horrible, for how the little kids are pushed off on older kids, but who needs college when you can learn how to mommy at home.
i can understand some guys saying all sperm is valuable as protein and nourishment for women (and some guys telling me several times that sperm is a healthy natural moisturizing and revitalizing lotion for the face and thighs LOL)
but saying that guys masturbating is murdering babies because you're killing sperm? that takes the cream off the pie and the 'icing' off the cake for me LOL ; P
Just wondering, Have you heard of the Christian Patriarchy Movement? just search Stay-at-home daughters and you'll probably find what you need to know.
I really feel that I, as a US citizen, should take these people to trial. This is not permissible; I don't care if people disagree with the constitution, but like hell should we let someone actively try to take over the country and rip it to shreds.
Using environmental arguments against this irrationality is inefffective, because the agenda here is, as you've stated, social and political domination by numbers. If it fucks up the planet, oh well - that's why the Rapture's been planned to take us good fruitful folk out of the fucking shit we've made, to leave the unbelievers behind to stew in it.
I love nolongerquivering, the one and only wikipedia edit I ever did was putting Vyckie and the link to her site into the main quiverfull page on wiki... In fact hanging out there, reading the stories of the women who'd escaped all manner of oppressive religions had a huge part in motivating me to open my feministwhore blog and come out swinging hard.
Absoluteley brilliant, I'd heard of quiverfull in te past but never really thought much of it, you blew it out of the water, I love how you fight religion with religion, smarty pants xD
If they only will have the children that God bless them with. Then they can't have sex cos then it is the father sperms that are......... (you know) not Gods blessing. I might have mist something in my biology classes in school but I don't think so. Just a thought in the mater. ;-P
The quiverfull group is part of a larger movement, the Christian dominionists, whose explicit intent is to "control every aspect of life and thought: in the country. That is the "commandment to gain dominion" they are talking about in the very beginning of this excellent vid.
This stupid idea guarantees generations of ignorant utterly impoverished 'believers' to supply the 'army of God' they see themselves as part of. Their goal is complete dominion over everyone and everything.
Fundies are freaks.
modelleg 1 month ago
Hahaha, you put the frightening 12 year old at the end *thumbs up*
I'd be worried about the mental state of anyone who DOESN'T find that horrifying.
Kudos on bringing up adoption too =)
I don't get why religious folks never want to help kids without parents, give them a loving home. Oh yeah, because they're selfish and want something that looks like themselves, and has no outside influences. Or maybe they'd never get accepted as adoptive parents because they're NUTS.
dd1987x 3 months ago 2
(continued) Sounds like they'll act however their husband wants them to act, so they're basically just an extension of their spouse, not their own individual person. Try and have an intellectual discussion and she'll just agree with you on every point you make. BORING.
(can't imagine they'd be creative and/or fun in the sack either..)
Oh, and on some of the pro-quiverfull sites you'll find articles about birth control causing cancer. Pure fear-mongering, it's disgusting.
dd1987x 3 months ago
@dd1987x
Bc does cause cancer, likely. I say that because of the constantly smoking gun. It's synthetic hormone. That aside though, these quivertools are terrible.
SaveTheWheat 5 hours ago
In the one video I watched, a 12 y/o is all "I feel like it's a privilege to be helping my mommy. I don't feel like it's a burden or that I'm over-worked. My mom is training me and my sisters to be helpmates someday to our husbands"
*vomit*
Like, how much more boring can a woman get? It doesn't take much to shit out babies, we were all born with that ability. Why not do something more interesting? (continued in next comment)
dd1987x 3 months ago
I'd like to show one of those quiverfull's a room with wank-juice all over the walls, they'd probably treat it like the scene of a mass murder.
Amusing..
dd1987x 3 months ago
it's completely EFFED up. I talked to a woman who escaped from it, she says the men in it are severely abusive. They look for women with low self esteem or learning disabilities.
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
Oh this was a fantastic video, I had no idea about the Quiverfull movement, thats terrifying! Thanks for adding as a video response : )
ForeverWolfFilms 4 months ago
Amen to adopting vs. being a brood mare
TanglewoodSevynSpots 8 months ago
7. ) When you raise someone that doesn't know any better to have those views and they go along with it be cause they don't know anything different or don't have any other choice but to go along with it ... that's the problem . I'm not saying these people are raising their children to be racist I was just using it as an example it's the SAME child brainwashing technique really .
BiracialGirl1977 8 months ago
6. ) Wouldn't that also be considered a form of brainwashing and therefore be considered child abuse because it's... um, brainwashing? It's one thing to be an extremist or in this case a fundamentalist by choice , it's not a crime to hold certain beliefs it is, however, a crime to force others to go along with your extremist views or hurt others because of those views .
BiracialGirl1977 8 months ago
5. ) I mean, take for example, a racist family that raises their children to be racist and doesn't let the children learn anything about other races of people other than what the parents want them to know to the extent they are even home schooled ( no chance at having a friend of another race ) therefore... they cant form there own opinions because the opportunity to find out about different races of people was taken away from them .
BiracialGirl1977 8 months ago
4. ) To me, that is child abuse because you are intentionally stunting or altering the thought process they would of otherwise had if they were given the freedom to think objectively and constructively .
BiracialGirl1977 8 months ago
3. ) By them having 50 million biological children.. there are no slates to wipe clean, you now have perfectly blank slates to imprint anything you'd like... it totally cuts out half the work you would normally have to do in order to brainwash a person because they are indoctrinated from the time of birth to know nothing outside of what you want them to know ON PURPOSE .
BiracialGirl1977 8 months ago
2. ) No outside influence that isn't first supervised by the parents, no room for independent or creative thought that's isn't first supervised by the parents ... humm sounds a lot like CULT brainwashing to me, the only difference is... you aren't going out and rounding up strangers to deprogram into your way of thinking .
BiracialGirl1977 8 months ago
1. ) I don't know if I agree with the term " training " your children. I mean you train a dog, you RAISE a child . I think instead of using the term " Train " they should just go a head and say BRAINWASH. I think the whole idea is kinda creepy . You raise ..no, wait I'm sorry, " train " your children to have no other thoughts other then what you've allowed them to have ....
BiracialGirl1977 8 months ago
There was only three reasons for having as many kids as these nutters do.. 1. Plagues would come along in the old days and you needed a lot of offspring to repopulate and also kids would easily die off. 2. FREE LABOR!! Especially during the industrial revolution. The more kids you had, the more money you'd rake in. and the third was to work the farm.. Duggars are horrible, for how the little kids are pushed off on older kids, but who needs college when you can learn how to mommy at home.
DimitrisduchessXD 8 months ago
i can understand some guys saying all sperm is valuable as protein and nourishment for women (and some guys telling me several times that sperm is a healthy natural moisturizing and revitalizing lotion for the face and thighs LOL)
but saying that guys masturbating is murdering babies because you're killing sperm? that takes the cream off the pie and the 'icing' off the cake for me LOL ; P
VampiressOnDaProwlq 1 year ago
Ooj, dontcha know, "every sperm is sacred, every sperm is good!" - Monty Python ; D
VampiressOnDaProwlq 1 year ago 5
@VampiressOnDaProwlq in your neighbourhood
TheTravelfool 4 months ago
thanks Ooj panthera ; D
we in the U.S. have observed in horror this sickening batshit that should be outlawed as a health risk!
Christians in Roman Empire did it also, to destroy Roma. Romans outlawed abortion to keep flow of free labor (slaves) & new centurions.
it's Free Market Libertarian efforts to keep a flow of cheap labor Wal-mart janitor workers.
they hate non-athletic Left Intellectuals (nerds) but love retarded kids from incest -more Conservative voters, cheap labor & church followers.
VampiressOnDaProwlq 1 year ago 2
Just wondering, Have you heard of the Christian Patriarchy Movement? just search Stay-at-home daughters and you'll probably find what you need to know.
AngryPunkPixie 1 year ago
I really feel that I, as a US citizen, should take these people to trial. This is not permissible; I don't care if people disagree with the constitution, but like hell should we let someone actively try to take over the country and rip it to shreds.
JabborWacky 1 year ago
Screwing for Jesus!
Never thought I'd see that one.
pumpstations 1 year ago
Using environmental arguments against this irrationality is inefffective, because the agenda here is, as you've stated, social and political domination by numbers. If it fucks up the planet, oh well - that's why the Rapture's been planned to take us good fruitful folk out of the fucking shit we've made, to leave the unbelievers behind to stew in it.
TheAzov 1 year ago
@TheAzov
love that comment ; D
VampiressOnDaProwlq 1 year ago
These people need to have their children taken away so that they (the kids) have a chance at a normal life.
WildcardHatesYou 1 year ago
When God told Adam and Eve to "go forth and multiply", he was in fact telling them to leave the Garden of Eden, he was just putting it politely.
Dave83C 1 year ago
I seriously thought quiverfull com was a satire site. Fucking amazing.
ourben 1 year ago
I love nolongerquivering, the one and only wikipedia edit I ever did was putting Vyckie and the link to her site into the main quiverfull page on wiki... In fact hanging out there, reading the stories of the women who'd escaped all manner of oppressive religions had a huge part in motivating me to open my feministwhore blog and come out swinging hard.
FeministWhore 1 year ago
@FeministWhore no way?! that's cool. yea its pretty fucked up huh?
SkidRowRadio 1 year ago
Absoluteley brilliant, I'd heard of quiverfull in te past but never really thought much of it, you blew it out of the water, I love how you fight religion with religion, smarty pants xD
ch3rrypole 1 year ago
'be fruitful and multiply', 'don't dress sexy because boys will want to have sex with you'.. Aren't those to messsages contradictory?
I feel sorry for the girl at the end. she been brainwashed to believe that her role is only to be a wife
Scarletpooky 1 year ago
The homeschooling company is making a PACKET off this. These kids are going to be undereducated, they will form the next underclass.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
If they only will have the children that God bless them with. Then they can't have sex cos then it is the father sperms that are......... (you know) not Gods blessing. I might have mist something in my biology classes in school but I don't think so. Just a thought in the mater. ;-P
PingeMusic 1 year ago
The quiverfull group is part of a larger movement, the Christian dominionists, whose explicit intent is to "control every aspect of life and thought: in the country. That is the "commandment to gain dominion" they are talking about in the very beginning of this excellent vid.
This stupid idea guarantees generations of ignorant utterly impoverished 'believers' to supply the 'army of God' they see themselves as part of. Their goal is complete dominion over everyone and everything.
macnutz 1 year ago
Completely insane fuckers. :-(
panthera50 1 year ago
Quiverfull is a fucking sick organization.
EnthalpyH 1 year ago
Over population is a non issue considering the effects of land theft from the government and land distribution.
Gettinghitonattheban 1 year ago
@Gettinghitonattheban They are not making new land anymore...
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
To me this is one of the more sneaky way the christians go after everybody else..."We'll just bread until we outnumber everyone else."
AtheistApe5 1 year ago
Sporting a new hair style I see... Manga?
Elenkhos 1 year ago
@Elenkhos not new no, this is an ooj reupload. XD
SkidRowRadio 1 year ago
@SkidRowRadio I remember this video. Thank you for reuploading it.
kileer71 1 year ago
@WiseMonkey888 thanks Mr MOnkey! XD
SkidRowRadio 1 year ago
Vagina, it's not a clown car.
nishbrown 1 year ago 7
@nishbrown lolol! : )
SkidRowRadio 1 year ago
@nishbrown lol...
Elenkhos 1 year ago