Which btw that was the same engine that was making 700+whp on stock short block not long ago and overall lasting for over a year running over 500+whp.
If you are saying the 4g63 is a better engine then whats its highest stock short block record for the 4g63? I know the record for a k20 is 840+whp. I don't think any 4g63 has broken 800 mark on stock short block. And thats aluminum block vs iron block.
@diambo4life They didn't get a full run in. It finally broke after being abused for over a year running over 500whp constantly. Fastest stock bottom end honda's run 9's in the 1/4 mile though and that was with 550hp. Imagine with 800+whp... go look up "highest hp stock block" Its old but it has some goo numbers and 1/4 mile times.
The fact you said Honda engines are not as dependable as the 4g63 only shows how stupid you are. Honda platforms have proven in street/track circuits as well moron. Their up their in popularity as miatas for track racing. You have no facts stating right the 4g63 is better. You only proved how much you of a dumbass you are.
So your telling me making a Frankenstein motor is better than a platform that has been proven in rally and street/track circuits? Nah don't think so, DSM's are way more solid of a platform than Honda's will ever be. And they are cheaper to make faster and easy to get parts for, and you have a genuine product not some platform that some guy thought would be cool. Sorry the 4G63 is a better engine than any motor that Honda has ever made. Nothing they ever made can stand up to it in dependability.
@Corey3851 Did i even say better dude? i said both engine are cheap to work on. Stop feeding me shit i never said. Quit being a moron dude. How are dsm's a much more solid platform? Their both good platforms. Honda's have their light weight dsms have their awd. Are you saying its hard to find parts for honda's? LOL Honda is probably on top of the list for engines that have great aftermarket support.
for all the honda vs dsm....hell with the both of them if its fast and makes you happy who gives a hell but for honda......they always said the power of dreams well yea they are the power of dreams if they aint in the shop after every weekend lol but i love my accord built honda tough with toyota stuff my friends
DSM's are the best bang for the buck.You will spend way more money getting a Honda to beat a DSM. That is a fact, do your research, I can give two people 10K and one build a DSM and one build a Honda. The DSM will tonsil box that Honda all day long and the Honda will break down before the DSM will. Honda's to me are played out and just not very interesting. The only three Honda's that start out with some potential were the NSX,RSX and the S2000. But all take more to beat DSM's in the end.
@Corey3851 You won't spend way more money. Honda's and dsm's are cheap to work on period. invest 5 grand in a vitara turbo build for a d16z6 or d16y8 and run 10-11's all day in a street car. Been done over and over again. Not even fully built either.
i went to 151k on my 2g gst with 0 signs of crankwalk, call it luck, but i was expecting to see some signs. nice dsm in the vid, gj getting it back quickly!
I would know since I ran a 13.2 @ 100.2mph with only 16g Hard Inter-cooler piping/BOV, 550cc injectors, walbro 255 and full 3" exhuast. I now am way into cost and should pull a 11.2 @ the track as I have invested another 6grand since then on forged internals, tuning, fuel and larger turbo
Stock GSX with 15-16psi so that nothing but a Boost Controller will make passes at 14's. GSX with $1000 so say EvoIIIBig16G w/550cc injectors and exhaust = 13's all damn day son.
dsm's and Honda's own people. Dsms' can be built fast for cheap and so can Honda's especially the d16 builds. People have spent 5 grand or less on their d16 and ran 10's and 11's in the 1/4 mile in a fully street Honda. for the cost of a b16 swap 1500-2000. You could have a 12 second turbo d16. Honda's can take a lot of power. B series engine make any where from 500-600whp on stock internals with the k2's making past 700. d16's around 400 or more. h series 500+ etc.
@pier456 And they can also be fast all motor. Dsm's don't get crank walk all the time. A 6 bolt can easily fix that problem for good and having AWD is always nice to have.
@pier456 Powder forged connecting rods will only hold 300whp for a few passes if lucky... Meaning your post read like this to me... Blah blah blah blah blah bullshit more bullshit and a bit more nonsense to follow...
@pier456 Keep on believing there are 400-500whp cars getting bounced off the limiter with OEM powder forged rods... Thank you for the comedy. I dont "look up" builds. Ive had my fair share and know what the facts are.
I dunno why honda guys are little cunts all the time, stock for stock strength dsm beats honda all the time. oh my honda dont break, but your honda isnt making any power either. you can run 13's in a dsm for much less than 1500 dollars
@scream0kid4life You're an idiot. First of all, this Talon didn't walk the crank. Second of all, you probably drive an early 90's dingle cam Civic with a hardcore 'JDM as FCK' sticker, tow hook, and a huge Megan Racing fart cannon. Your car fully built runs 13's, which ANY DSM could achieve with 1,500-2,000 dollars. I'm not gonna lie, your Honda is EXCELLENT for fuel economy, as for racing, not so much.
@scream0kid4life Your retarded... Crank walk rarely occurs on dsm's it is just way over played... Stock 6 bolt record is 9.9 @ 140mph and stock 7 bolt longblock (head has never been off the car) is 10.3 @ 136mph. Stock 6 bolt bottom ends have seen 600+whp multiple times. I guess its hard to break shit when you drive a 90hp fwd...
Ah a classic honda vs dsm
hasama81 1 week ago
Which btw that was the same engine that was making 700+whp on stock short block not long ago and overall lasting for over a year running over 500+whp.
pier456 6 months ago
If you are saying the 4g63 is a better engine then whats its highest stock short block record for the 4g63? I know the record for a k20 is 840+whp. I don't think any 4g63 has broken 800 mark on stock short block. And thats aluminum block vs iron block.
pier456 6 months ago
@pier456
840whp? What did it run? We don't race dynos.
diambo4life 5 months ago
@diambo4life They didn't get a full run in. It finally broke after being abused for over a year running over 500whp constantly. Fastest stock bottom end honda's run 9's in the 1/4 mile though and that was with 550hp. Imagine with 800+whp... go look up "highest hp stock block" Its old but it has some goo numbers and 1/4 mile times.
pier456 5 months ago
The fact you said Honda engines are not as dependable as the 4g63 only shows how stupid you are. Honda platforms have proven in street/track circuits as well moron. Their up their in popularity as miatas for track racing. You have no facts stating right the 4g63 is better. You only proved how much you of a dumbass you are.
pier456 6 months ago
So your telling me making a Frankenstein motor is better than a platform that has been proven in rally and street/track circuits? Nah don't think so, DSM's are way more solid of a platform than Honda's will ever be. And they are cheaper to make faster and easy to get parts for, and you have a genuine product not some platform that some guy thought would be cool. Sorry the 4G63 is a better engine than any motor that Honda has ever made. Nothing they ever made can stand up to it in dependability.
Corey3851 6 months ago
@Corey3851 Did i even say better dude? i said both engine are cheap to work on. Stop feeding me shit i never said. Quit being a moron dude. How are dsm's a much more solid platform? Their both good platforms. Honda's have their light weight dsms have their awd. Are you saying its hard to find parts for honda's? LOL Honda is probably on top of the list for engines that have great aftermarket support.
pier456 6 months ago
for all the honda vs dsm....hell with the both of them if its fast and makes you happy who gives a hell but for honda......they always said the power of dreams well yea they are the power of dreams if they aint in the shop after every weekend lol but i love my accord built honda tough with toyota stuff my friends
mudpuppy4life 7 months ago
DSM's are the best bang for the buck.You will spend way more money getting a Honda to beat a DSM. That is a fact, do your research, I can give two people 10K and one build a DSM and one build a Honda. The DSM will tonsil box that Honda all day long and the Honda will break down before the DSM will. Honda's to me are played out and just not very interesting. The only three Honda's that start out with some potential were the NSX,RSX and the S2000. But all take more to beat DSM's in the end.
Corey3851 7 months ago
@Corey3851 i can haz 10k for dsm, plx?
Eyeolus 6 months ago
@Corey3851 You won't spend way more money. Honda's and dsm's are cheap to work on period. invest 5 grand in a vitara turbo build for a d16z6 or d16y8 and run 10-11's all day in a street car. Been done over and over again. Not even fully built either.
pier456 6 months ago
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Corey3851 7 months ago
i went to 151k on my 2g gst with 0 signs of crankwalk, call it luck, but i was expecting to see some signs. nice dsm in the vid, gj getting it back quickly!
thaandiesel 9 months ago
I would know since I ran a 13.2 @ 100.2mph with only 16g Hard Inter-cooler piping/BOV, 550cc injectors, walbro 255 and full 3" exhuast. I now am way into cost and should pull a 11.2 @ the track as I have invested another 6grand since then on forged internals, tuning, fuel and larger turbo
gsxeclipsepsi 1 year ago
Stock GSX with 15-16psi so that nothing but a Boost Controller will make passes at 14's. GSX with $1000 so say EvoIIIBig16G w/550cc injectors and exhaust = 13's all damn day son.
gsxeclipsepsi 1 year ago
dsm's and Honda's own people. Dsms' can be built fast for cheap and so can Honda's especially the d16 builds. People have spent 5 grand or less on their d16 and ran 10's and 11's in the 1/4 mile in a fully street Honda. for the cost of a b16 swap 1500-2000. You could have a 12 second turbo d16. Honda's can take a lot of power. B series engine make any where from 500-600whp on stock internals with the k2's making past 700. d16's around 400 or more. h series 500+ etc.
pier456 1 year ago
@pier456 And they can also be fast all motor. Dsm's don't get crank walk all the time. A 6 bolt can easily fix that problem for good and having AWD is always nice to have.
pier456 1 year ago
@pier456 Powder forged connecting rods will only hold 300whp for a few passes if lucky... Meaning your post read like this to me... Blah blah blah blah blah bullshit more bullshit and a bit more nonsense to follow...
MuhammadDerkaDerka 6 months ago
@MuhammadDerkaDerka Obviously someone hasn't looked up any builds. keep your bullshit to yourself and save yourself from getting embarrassed.
pier456 6 months ago
@pier456 Keep on believing there are 400-500whp cars getting bounced off the limiter with OEM powder forged rods... Thank you for the comedy. I dont "look up" builds. Ive had my fair share and know what the facts are.
MuhammadDerkaDerka 6 months ago
@MuhammadDerkaDerka Obviously you don't know jack shit if you can't even use google.
700+whp f20c
800+whp stock block k20
Stock SOHC D16Z6, GT30R Epic turbo kit, Evans tuned 375WHP
500whp stock block b16
Actually just put this in google ----> highest hp stock block
that will pretty much sum it up. Now you think its all bull shit still?
pier456 6 months ago
I dunno why honda guys are little cunts all the time, stock for stock strength dsm beats honda all the time. oh my honda dont break, but your honda isnt making any power either. you can run 13's in a dsm for much less than 1500 dollars
cruel95tsi 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahahahahha dsm . see crank walk walk crank walk . what a peac of shit why some one would waste their money ya got me HONDA FTMFW
scream0kid4life 1 year ago
@scream0kid4life You're an idiot. First of all, this Talon didn't walk the crank. Second of all, you probably drive an early 90's dingle cam Civic with a hardcore 'JDM as FCK' sticker, tow hook, and a huge Megan Racing fart cannon. Your car fully built runs 13's, which ANY DSM could achieve with 1,500-2,000 dollars. I'm not gonna lie, your Honda is EXCELLENT for fuel economy, as for racing, not so much.
Alen2U2D 1 year ago
@scream0kid4life Your retarded... Crank walk rarely occurs on dsm's it is just way over played... Stock 6 bolt record is 9.9 @ 140mph and stock 7 bolt longblock (head has never been off the car) is 10.3 @ 136mph. Stock 6 bolt bottom ends have seen 600+whp multiple times. I guess its hard to break shit when you drive a 90hp fwd...
ls1maro99 1 year ago
@scream0kid4life that was not crank walk, he blew the rear end. read the description.
fordlightning 10 months ago
why it blows
killercamper420 1 year ago
i love this talon...
Nemesisracing2009 2 years ago