@TheMindPulverizer exactly. and? so what? is it worth almost 4 hours of 'debate'? all i saw was fakey twisting shit around and pretending to not understand (or actually not).
@Th3xUnkn0wn There is no more. Straightd0pe is a pussy. Thats it. The reason it lasts for 4 hours i because he refuses to answear simple question because he is an asshole.
I've never wanted to bash my face into a table harder all fakesagan did this entire video is just quote dope and blow every little thing he said out of proportion.
After watching this whole 3 hour and a half debate, I find it quite ironic that FakeSagan calls StraightD0pe a troll. But it seems like FakeSagan is the biggest troll of them all whether on cam or not. He's ignorant, arrogant, contradicting, and hypocritical. The way his arguments work reminds me similar to Fox news and the majority of this video left me face palming because of his stupidity. I'm surprised StraightD0pe didn't go harder on him with more valid points that he should of known.
Hey, you fucking put yourself out there, you need to be prepared to be criticized. And you don't need to show your face to criticize someone, especially if your points are fair and valid, which I think Straightdope's are. Showing your face on the internet isn't being tough by any stretch of the imagination. As far as I can tell, Straightdope has never showed himself to classless like Sagan has many times over.
sagans whole arguement is, I want to see what you look like, so until you show yourself I will call you names claiming you rely on calling people names. Hes soooooooo smart...
jesus christ,I almost respected Fakey back in the day,but this is painful. why doesn't he just put his fingers in his ears and scream so he can't hear you? talking over you doesn't make him right,apparently he's unaware of that fact
@MidMASS2 Interesting. I've seen some Fakesagan vids, and I've gotta say..I consider the content on Straightd0pe's videos more valid, and more thoroughly researched.
Fakesagan REALLY wants to jerk it to Straightd0pe. He's just so frustrated because he won't show his face :(! Maybe if he bitches about it to him for four hours, "Dopey" will consider going on camera.
GRRGHH&H%@H#&^!!! I'm only a 1/3 in and I want to strangle this condescending fuckwit. @_@
I watched the vast majority of this on the fakehardcase channel. When in the debate does dope go on the offensive? The entire time he came across to me like a scolded child.
@gijssmoes I was getting ready to reply but after reading your profile, I found out that you're not even worth to know why your arguments are failing.
@evilaj2010 My profile? There's nothing to read on my profile! I'm sorry but it's not my arguments that are failing, it's you. I'm not worth hearing why my arguments fail but I am worth another comment telling me that?? I'm sorry but that's the dumbest thing I heard today. XD If you can't answer my question just say so. Don't make up excuses. You're just like brett keane.
@evilaj2010 Remember the straightd0pe brett keane debate? Well Brett Keane handled a lot of questions the same way as you. Making up excuses. Anyway this is my last comment cause you're not worth my time so either give me an answer or shut up.
Fakesagan is a bonehead. He makes no points in this video and wants to criticize everything that Dope puts in his videos. if you dont like his videos dont watch them. Fakes "laws" of video creation on youtube is utterly ridiculous and I give a thumbs up to Dope for exposing the E-beggers and Fat Fucks on Youtube. HooRay! By the way Im a Fat Fuck myself. If you want a picture or vid of me in my Speedo thong faggots just ask!
@Daiblix You completely ignored part of his point. Commenters cant see you, you can't see them. As he said this is a fair advantage. But when the other person who you are attacking can't attack your appearance because he can't see you, it's not fair to make insults about their appearance. So in fact it is you and StraightD0pe who fail.
@Jmoney321654987 How does being able to comment on someone's appearance offer any advantage? If you bring up arguments against someone for what they do or their opinions, do they hold more merrit when you're able to attack their appearance too? I don't think so. It makes no difference. And if dopey wants to expose other people, what impact does knowing info about dopey have on what they've done? So basically: NOPE.
@Daiblix If it has no advantage then why does Dopey do it? Huh? It obviously gives a person an advantage if you know what the other person looks like and they don't know what you look like. Even if it is just for "garnishing". And FakeSagan owned Dopey on most of the topics they talked about.
@Jmoney321654987 You're saying that dope stays anonymous specifically so that people can't attack him personally when he does it to them? That's stupid, there are a number of reasons for staying anonymous on the net. E.G. One of my subscriptions (Grappling Ignorance) stays anonymous because he's a teacher and 1 of his pupils stumbled across his last YT channel which severely alienated him in the work place because of his atheism. You don't know dope's reasons, and they could be just as legit.
@Jmoney321654987 Fakesagan is full of shit and borderline personallity, to think he owned with his weak and pathetic arguments is rediculous and dillusional.
Yeah...until you listen to what they are arguing about. This is the most retarded debate in the world. I listened to the whole thing because these guys usually deliver but it really sucked. Dope won, but it wasn't through any genius arguments or clever research, just common sense...
They've have a history of being assholes towards others but the point of the debate was how does SD answer the charge of having no integrity by hiding from the same criticisms he makes?
SD spent three hours pretending words like dignity doesn't exist, not once did he answer the charge in three hours.
@brokennarcissist Yeah he did, several times, and I can answer it too. It's not integrity to put your face out there to be made fun of when you call someone fat.
This entire idea is silly. It's like calling someone who shoots from cover during a firefight a coward. It's silly.
If YOU want to put your face out there, YOU are saying, "I am allowing you to make fun of my face." You don't get to dictate who gets to do it and who doesn't.
@brokennarcissist If his point is that D0pe is smart enough to not unnecessarily put his neck on the line simply because of drunken construction workers who call him a pussy...then point proven. But that's hardly an act of being 'pussy faced'.
There are a vast number of reasons not to put your face on the internet, and the only reason you can give to do so is cause you're a 'pussy' if you don't. Sorry, but that's a silly reason, and intelligent people shouldn't accept it.
@BigLundi If you're the yt community's answer to being a tabloid, you're a faggot, it's that simple, can't put 'your neck on the line' then shut your mouth.
In the future do yourself a favor and don't condescend to you're intellectual betters.
You sound like you're yet to enter the working class and think yourself above it while sucking your parents tits well into your pseudo adulthood. SD is a yt icon for white suburban castration. It's what the existentialists call bad faith.
Tablids oversensationalize things that don't tend to be true. SD is more of a news reporter in the sense that he does his research, and brings evidence for all his findings.
I've entered the working class. I work 2 jobs and go to college, and almost have my Bachelor's in psychology.
Intellectual better? You can't even put a coherent argument together, you silly fuck.
It's amazing how all you do is repeat what Fake has said. That's bad faith.
@BigLundi BREAKING NEWS.... FAKESAGAN GOT DRUNK.... BRETT KEANE STILL EXISTS..... you think that sounds like journalism???
Or maybe you prefer when waves the applause sign on issues like atheism (wow breaking new ground), F the police or pro prostitution etc... pandering is what tabloids are for.
@brokennarcissist Mmm, pandering, that's what talking about the G20 event is?
It's ok to admit you're just a bias fakey fanboy. :)
Fakesagan didn't justget drunk, he put innocent lives at risk, as well as his own. Keane doesn't just still exist, he's STILL tricking people out of their money, some of which just didn't know about his pathological lieing. And D0pe was one of the best ones to point all of it out. Hell, his videos are featured on Encyclopedia Dramatica.
@BigLundi It's a debate, there are two sides and I side with FS, that makes me an uncritical fanboy? You're fucking dense.
His friends (those innocent lives, you see how it gets twisted like a tabloid) didn't take issue why you or SD would care is beyond lame. If you want to be a gossip girl about it, go ahead, just admit it instead of calling it 'journalism'.
Coca Cola is tricking more people out their money Keane, who cares...
@brokennarcissist It's not a debate, it's an interview, and you're bias against the interviewee.
It's not just his 'friends' you tard. They are people. I suppose you don't care about people getting their lives threatened. And that's fine, but I find you to be a bit of a cock for it. It's not about gossip, what he did bordered on completely illegal.
Yeah, seriously, who cares if people are being bastards? Just let them do it.
@BigLundi whats the title??? DEBATE Fakegan VS Straighd0pe... fucking moron, yeah you care sooooo much, that's the allure of faggy tabloids, care of humanity, puh-lease, you thrive on the bone of gossipy character slander (you know that which SD shields his cunt from), stop posturing empathy, it's sickeningly dishonest. Hypocrite, do you rat on your friends when they illegally smoke pot you fucking Nancy? I guess illegal is only cool when SD approves it like prostitution, huh (pwned bitch).
@BigLundi Shutup psych major (pseudo science btw) Stop talking about the Bible and playing your pandering atheist card (pussy move), it has nothing to do with the issue (pandering secular humanist retard).
This isn't about you, it's about the issue of the debate. Stop whining.
Do you call your friends out when the smoke hypocrite? Bullshit arguments destroyed...
Subbing to Thunderfag is a sign of herd mentality you dumbass.
Go favorite a shawndawson vou you sub intellectual half wit.
@brokennarcissist If it's a pseudo science, explain why it's being taught in legitimate universities. Go.
What? You said this was a debate because the vid title says it's a debate. Sorry, but that doesn't necessarily follow, and it's stupid to say such things, I used the term Holy Bible as a comparison. It's not Holy just because it SAYS it's Holy.
No I don't call my friends out, I already said that I have no secular reason to be against marijuana smoke.
@brokennarcissist Please please PLEASE tell me who I'm allowed and not allowed to sub to.
Throughout this discussion you've claimed winning the argument several times. The fact that you can't see how childish this is is...well, it's entertaining, and a classic sign of having an superiority complex. You do not want to think yourself as wrong, and immediately picture my argument as being destroyed without any consideration that YOU might be in the wrong.
@BigLundi Your subs reflect on you, welcome youtube.
I've defeated your positions several times....
You replied my comment, I'm simply putting your bs in it's place. This has degenerated into a flame war and I have the superior argument, period. You lost have some dignity and move along or reply with a better argument.
@brokennarcissist You CLAIM to defeat my positions several times. *fixed.
You're not really putting me in my place, you simply claim you have, and have the superior argument. You havent' demonstrated you've won in any way, you haven't demonstrated why it is that your argument is superior. All you've done is make presuppositions about me that are entirely taken at face value, strawman me, misrepresent me, and then claim victory.
@brokennarcissist I'm the troll? According to Fakey's definition of what a troll is, you're the troll in this here argument, and since you agree with him so readily, you would be perfectly fine with admitting to that.
I've put forth many arguments you haven't debunked in any valid and sound manner, though of course that doesn't stop you from being a narcissist and simply claiming victory ANYWAY.
Keep posting please, I love watching you demonstrate yourself to be a complete tool. :)
@brokennarcissist Thanks for demonstrating my "You're the mental equivalent of a child" point.
You said earlier psychology is a peseudo science .Care to elaborate on why that is, and why all the peer reviewed papers on the subject are complete bunk?
"He presses him to think that anyone who wants to criticize someone else should have the audacity to show there face, otherwise there a coward."......... ?
Does that read strange to anyone else in the description box?
I'm only fucking 1 hour and abit over in mins of this debate, and it's gonna last another 2 hours watching this. Though the description pretty much covers it, might just skip a hour.
So much, that straightd0pe hates what brett or fakey does. Like I hate what goronchev does, but not in a "i hate him forever and forever" kind of way. Though he went so far to finding my personal info in a lulzy video.
@brokennarcissist You must of read wrong. I'm saying he claims he has a lawyer. But his lawyer has nothing to do with anything about what he does in these videos.
@SmokingNtheGraveyard Basically you think straightd0pe has a "hidden agenda" because he doesn't want to show his face that might have him given the fact he has to face the consequences or so fake or brett has a face to laugh at? Nor, how that is a consequences. Even so brett showed his face, but SD showed him what consequences were when Brett Keane lied his ass off. You can't "expose" someone just because their face wasn't showed, unless a "good" reason is involved.
@benos "hidden agenda"? wtf are you talking about? I made one simple point. SD makes fun of the way people look, while you can't see him. It's a low move. Thats it. I support him on exposing BK and all that, on this one issue, I disagree.
I hate to agree with fakey, but he has a good point. Its totally unfair of dope to attack the way people look, while hiding himself. Its an unfair advantage. He loses credibillity on that one.
@SmokingNtheGraveyard No he doesn't. Having to show one's face is some retarded macho test put forward by fakesagan and brett. If they are stupid enough to put their face on video, then so be it. They shouldn't expect others to do so.
@steinarrexfaroensis yes, he does. I don't think everyone needs to show thier face on youtube, but when you hide yourself while making fun of the way other people look, it gives him an unfair advantage and does not help his points at all.
@steinarrexfaroensis you seemed to have missed my point. If SD only talked about ebegging, false flagging, etc, then showing himself is a mute point. Once he starts making fun of the way people look, then it makes perfect sense that people would expect him to show himself.
I think sagan knew brett failed, and just wanted to try at dope too. Obviously, saga got pwned because of captainawesome pwning a girlfriend of sagan's vagina. Real ownage here.
I don't like how fakesagan considers anonymity to be not knowing about someone's personal life, but then goes on to say that no one really -knows- Brett. I mean, wouldn't that make Brett anonymous similarly to straightd0pe?
I am only 14 min into this and will ofer my opinion. straightdope is a very overweight person. you can usally tell buy the tone of there voice in comparason to what age they approx are. And another point I agree with TheSmothTerorist. If you are not willing to show your face you should not be talking about someone eleses looks. StraightDope is a Fucking Idot.
Why doesn't straightdope want to show his face? This is a silly "debate" but if you're going to insult the appearance of other people on youtube via videos but won't show your face you are a cowardly pussy.
Calm down. If you don't want to show your face on the internet, then you want people to focus on your arguments. Makes sense, doesn't it? Internet is the home of Anonymous, and straightd0pe belongs to anonymous.
I can't bring myself to leave this weird part of YouTube I stumbled into....it's like a clinic in abnormal psychology, or some shit. lol
tstruss912 1 day ago
@tstruss912 Yes, i know what you mean. It's like i have stumbled across the Twilight Zone of Youtube.
peddlentou105 1 day ago
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I think that SithLordRising summed this one up: "WTF, are these two halfwits debating? Watching my cat take a shit is more entertaining."
tstruss912 1 day ago
This is incredibly childish...This isn't a debate. It's a pissing contest.
samael1981 1 week ago
Fakesagan is such a worthless piece of shit.
Yvieneify 2 weeks ago
I miss the good debates about religion.... :(
Yewon2001 2 weeks ago
Straightd0pe getting owned
TheMindPulverizer 3 weeks ago
@TheMindPulverizer lol.
Th3xUnkn0wn 2 weeks ago
@Th3xUnkn0wn yeah i know. Straightd0pe got fucked in the ass. Hilarious
TheMindPulverizer 1 week ago
@so in what way did straightd0pe get pwned exactly? he doesn't show his face....and?
Th3xUnkn0wn 6 days ago
@Th3xUnkn0wn ...and therefore he is a fucking pussy dick fuckface asshole coward
TheMindPulverizer 5 days ago
@TheMindPulverizer exactly. and? so what? is it worth almost 4 hours of 'debate'? all i saw was fakey twisting shit around and pretending to not understand (or actually not).
Th3xUnkn0wn 5 days ago
@Th3xUnkn0wn There is no more. Straightd0pe is a pussy. Thats it. The reason it lasts for 4 hours i because he refuses to answear simple question because he is an asshole.
TheMindPulverizer 4 days ago
I wish this person didn't have dial-up.
Iomegadrive1 3 weeks ago
Holy shit.
McFlapsy 2 months ago
wow, fakesagen really is a fratboy douuchbag. also, he asks straightd0pe a question and then just keeps talking over him, what a douche!
MrJablong 3 months ago
I've never wanted to bash my face into a table harder all fakesagan did this entire video is just quote dope and blow every little thing he said out of proportion.
DoctorMint 3 months ago
So cute,theyre in love...StraightDope has good taste in beer
vangerwen79 3 months ago
theyre in love...straight dope has good taste in beer
vangerwen79 3 months ago
how the fuck does anyone watch that douchebag fakesagan, he's so full of shit.
TrianosDellas 3 months ago
WTF, are these two halfwits debating? Watching my cat take a shit is more entertaining.
SithLordRising 3 months ago
@SithLordRising
YOU LIKE FECAL PORN TOO?!?!
PsychoReaper49 1 month ago
After watching this whole 3 hour and a half debate, I find it quite ironic that FakeSagan calls StraightD0pe a troll. But it seems like FakeSagan is the biggest troll of them all whether on cam or not. He's ignorant, arrogant, contradicting, and hypocritical. The way his arguments work reminds me similar to Fox news and the majority of this video left me face palming because of his stupidity. I'm surprised StraightD0pe didn't go harder on him with more valid points that he should of known.
mrk1190 3 months ago 2
So far watched an hour and 50 minutes of this and FakeSagan's arrogance and ignorance blows my fucking mind.
mrk1190 3 months ago
Haha, "have destain for people who show their faces." Does faky really believe that?
Visfen 4 months ago
Hey, you fucking put yourself out there, you need to be prepared to be criticized. And you don't need to show your face to criticize someone, especially if your points are fair and valid, which I think Straightdope's are. Showing your face on the internet isn't being tough by any stretch of the imagination. As far as I can tell, Straightdope has never showed himself to classless like Sagan has many times over.
GoongalaGoongala 4 months ago
lol at 1:00:30 SD almost said troll video :)
BobThePatriot 5 months ago
I masturbate to straightdopes wit and voice
BobThePatriot 5 months ago
The whole debate was just "show your face, you're a coward" discussion. Boring.
benos 5 months ago
49:51 bittttch
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
32:51 WTF IS THIS KID DOING?
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
Sagan's a Pussy be truthful. He gets angry for you calling him names then in the same sentence he calls you dopey?
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
he did say company.
dedringer2 5 months ago
sagans whole arguement is, I want to see what you look like, so until you show yourself I will call you names claiming you rely on calling people names. Hes soooooooo smart...
thiefxorz 5 months ago
I think this is the longest video I've ever watched on YouTube.
0pteryx 5 months ago
No, it wasn't the best structured debate, probably could have used a moderator.
However,Hands down I think that Straightdope wins the day.
He consistently makes sense whereas Fakey consistently fails.
HandsInMyHead 5 months ago
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HandsInMyHead 5 months ago
It is not an ad hominem to attack someone. Its an ad hominem to attack them without making an argument.
kff 6 months ago
lol I'm just waiting for a game to get done downloading...this is good enough entertainment xD
Edoric85 6 months ago
wow. fakesagan got schooled.
Tackzi 6 months ago
Fakesagan was funny. It's totally a waste of time, but I thought he was funny. You guys are taking this too seriously.
fringeelements 6 months ago
also straightdope wins FATALITY!
NetraToraken 6 months ago
fakesagan suure loves to hear himself now don't he?
NetraToraken 6 months ago
jesus christ,I almost respected Fakey back in the day,but this is painful. why doesn't he just put his fingers in his ears and scream so he can't hear you? talking over you doesn't make him right,apparently he's unaware of that fact
ViralMessiah 6 months ago
fakesagans only insult is saying straightd0pe is a coward for not showing himself and he keeps dwelling on it.
bakersk8r41 6 months ago
I can't sit through 3 minutes of Fakey let alone 3 hours. The guys a fucking jerk, end of story.
trifelgeputinage 7 months ago 2
@trifelgeputinage Well said!!!!
NragedXX 6 months ago
fakey is irish, oh jesus we're so so sorry we had no idea what we done, I wish we could take it back
mark0032 7 months ago
Thumbs up to anyone who watched or listened to this entire THING!
supersmash43 7 months ago
Wow. This proves that Fakesagan is fucking dense.
TheOtherHolly 7 months ago
lol. fakesagan has NOTHING.
Th3xUnkn0wn 7 months ago
Heyyyyy. I'm actually kinda impressed with the ostrich here.
1:43:18-1:44:31
"You're the Ralph Nader of fucking YouTube."
I really hope people appreciate what Fakey does here.Plenty of youtubers are guilty of this. Actually, HE might be too. Interesting.
TruthDevours 7 months ago
holy shit fakey, are you just playing stupid or are you really that dumb?
stripe64 7 months ago
How the fuck did this bullshit last 3 fucking hours??
TruthDevours 7 months ago 2
Fakesagan is the ultimate troll.
stripe64 7 months ago
Starts getting good around the 2h mark, when Dope finally accepts he's talking to a complete idiot and begins to have fun with the "debate".
rockhardly 7 months ago
@rockhardly The only idiot there is Dopey.
MidMASS2 7 months ago
@MidMASS2 Interesting. I've seen some Fakesagan vids, and I've gotta say..I consider the content on Straightd0pe's videos more valid, and more thoroughly researched.
BigLundi 6 months ago
Holy shit. 3 fucking hours? Do I REALLY give a shit?
BigLundi 7 months ago
Fakesagan REALLY wants to jerk it to Straightd0pe. He's just so frustrated because he won't show his face :(! Maybe if he bitches about it to him for four hours, "Dopey" will consider going on camera.
GRRGHH&H%@H#&^!!! I'm only a 1/3 in and I want to strangle this condescending fuckwit. @_@
Aetris0921 7 months ago
I watched the vast majority of this on the fakehardcase channel. When in the debate does dope go on the offensive? The entire time he came across to me like a scolded child.
DAntiprodukt 7 months ago
I have to say fakesagan won.
gijssmoes 7 months ago
@gijssmoes Not according to the majority of the people.
evilaj2010 7 months ago
@evilaj2010
Oh yeah sorry, majority is always right.
Anyway I don't see a majority anywhere, not for fakey or dopey. Where can I find the majority that says dopey won?
gijssmoes 7 months ago
@gijssmoes You have got to be fucking kidding me dude.
evilaj2010 7 months ago
@evilaj2010
Great answer! No seriously, why say something if you can't back it up?
It was just a question. Had no idea it would anger you to the point of having to drop the f-bomb.
gijssmoes 7 months ago
@gijssmoes Who says I couldn't back it up?
evilaj2010 7 months ago
@evilaj2010 You've got to be kidding me. XD
If you could back it up you would have done it by now. Dopey fans are indeed trolls.
gijssmoes 7 months ago
@gijssmoes So you're saying that people like gimmeabreakman is a troll too? And why am I going to back up on something when I know that you're not
evilaj2010 7 months ago
@gijssmoes I was getting ready to reply but after reading your profile, I found out that you're not even worth to know why your arguments are failing.
evilaj2010 7 months ago
@evilaj2010 My profile? There's nothing to read on my profile! I'm sorry but it's not my arguments that are failing, it's you. I'm not worth hearing why my arguments fail but I am worth another comment telling me that?? I'm sorry but that's the dumbest thing I heard today. XD If you can't answer my question just say so. Don't make up excuses. You're just like brett keane.
gijssmoes 7 months ago
@gijssmoes Care to elaborate on how I'm like BK?
evilaj2010 7 months ago
@evilaj2010 Remember the straightd0pe brett keane debate? Well Brett Keane handled a lot of questions the same way as you. Making up excuses. Anyway this is my last comment cause you're not worth my time so either give me an answer or shut up.
gijssmoes 7 months ago
@gijssmoes I said it's not worth it so how is this making up excuses?
evilaj2010 7 months ago
@gijssmoes lol
benos 5 months ago
Fakesagan is a bonehead. He makes no points in this video and wants to criticize everything that Dope puts in his videos. if you dont like his videos dont watch them. Fakes "laws" of video creation on youtube is utterly ridiculous and I give a thumbs up to Dope for exposing the E-beggers and Fat Fucks on Youtube. HooRay! By the way Im a Fat Fuck myself. If you want a picture or vid of me in my Speedo thong faggots just ask!
feud1111 7 months ago
Who gives a shit about attacks on appearance? Does everyone who comments have to show their face too? Fakesagan does indeed fail.
Daiblix 7 months ago 10
@Daiblix You completely ignored part of his point. Commenters cant see you, you can't see them. As he said this is a fair advantage. But when the other person who you are attacking can't attack your appearance because he can't see you, it's not fair to make insults about their appearance. So in fact it is you and StraightD0pe who fail.
Jmoney321654987 6 months ago
@Jmoney321654987 How does being able to comment on someone's appearance offer any advantage? If you bring up arguments against someone for what they do or their opinions, do they hold more merrit when you're able to attack their appearance too? I don't think so. It makes no difference. And if dopey wants to expose other people, what impact does knowing info about dopey have on what they've done? So basically: NOPE.
Daiblix 6 months ago
@Daiblix If it has no advantage then why does Dopey do it? Huh? It obviously gives a person an advantage if you know what the other person looks like and they don't know what you look like. Even if it is just for "garnishing". And FakeSagan owned Dopey on most of the topics they talked about.
Jmoney321654987 6 months ago
@Jmoney321654987 You're saying that dope stays anonymous specifically so that people can't attack him personally when he does it to them? That's stupid, there are a number of reasons for staying anonymous on the net. E.G. One of my subscriptions (Grappling Ignorance) stays anonymous because he's a teacher and 1 of his pupils stumbled across his last YT channel which severely alienated him in the work place because of his atheism. You don't know dope's reasons, and they could be just as legit.
Daiblix 6 months ago
@Jmoney321654987 Fakesagan is full of shit and borderline personallity, to think he owned with his weak and pathetic arguments is rediculous and dillusional.
TrianosDellas 4 months ago
@Daiblix Are the ones who fail*
Jmoney321654987 6 months ago
Only fakesagan fans say he won, because they were so butthurt straightd0pe won.
benos 7 months ago
Great that two people who hate each other can have such a civil discourse. That gives me hope for humanity.
atypicalguy 7 months ago 11
@atypicalguy
Yeah...until you listen to what they are arguing about. This is the most retarded debate in the world. I listened to the whole thing because these guys usually deliver but it really sucked. Dope won, but it wasn't through any genius arguments or clever research, just common sense...
MarshalNey13 7 months ago
They've have a history of being assholes towards others but the point of the debate was how does SD answer the charge of having no integrity by hiding from the same criticisms he makes?
SD spent three hours pretending words like dignity doesn't exist, not once did he answer the charge in three hours.
brokennarcissist 7 months ago
@brokennarcissist Yeah he did, several times, and I can answer it too. It's not integrity to put your face out there to be made fun of when you call someone fat.
This entire idea is silly. It's like calling someone who shoots from cover during a firefight a coward. It's silly.
If YOU want to put your face out there, YOU are saying, "I am allowing you to make fun of my face." You don't get to dictate who gets to do it and who doesn't.
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi So we agree that SD is too pussy to face the cyber 'fire', Sagan proves his point.
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist If his point is that D0pe is smart enough to not unnecessarily put his neck on the line simply because of drunken construction workers who call him a pussy...then point proven. But that's hardly an act of being 'pussy faced'.
There are a vast number of reasons not to put your face on the internet, and the only reason you can give to do so is cause you're a 'pussy' if you don't. Sorry, but that's a silly reason, and intelligent people shouldn't accept it.
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi If you're the yt community's answer to being a tabloid, you're a faggot, it's that simple, can't put 'your neck on the line' then shut your mouth.
In the future do yourself a favor and don't condescend to you're intellectual betters.
You sound like you're yet to enter the working class and think yourself above it while sucking your parents tits well into your pseudo adulthood. SD is a yt icon for white suburban castration. It's what the existentialists call bad faith.
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist Oh? SD is a tabloid now?
Tablids oversensationalize things that don't tend to be true. SD is more of a news reporter in the sense that he does his research, and brings evidence for all his findings.
I've entered the working class. I work 2 jobs and go to college, and almost have my Bachelor's in psychology.
Intellectual better? You can't even put a coherent argument together, you silly fuck.
It's amazing how all you do is repeat what Fake has said. That's bad faith.
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi BREAKING NEWS.... FAKESAGAN GOT DRUNK.... BRETT KEANE STILL EXISTS..... you think that sounds like journalism???
Or maybe you prefer when waves the applause sign on issues like atheism (wow breaking new ground), F the police or pro prostitution etc... pandering is what tabloids are for.
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist Mmm, pandering, that's what talking about the G20 event is?
It's ok to admit you're just a bias fakey fanboy. :)
Fakesagan didn't justget drunk, he put innocent lives at risk, as well as his own. Keane doesn't just still exist, he's STILL tricking people out of their money, some of which just didn't know about his pathological lieing. And D0pe was one of the best ones to point all of it out. Hell, his videos are featured on Encyclopedia Dramatica.
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi It's a debate, there are two sides and I side with FS, that makes me an uncritical fanboy? You're fucking dense.
His friends (those innocent lives, you see how it gets twisted like a tabloid) didn't take issue why you or SD would care is beyond lame. If you want to be a gossip girl about it, go ahead, just admit it instead of calling it 'journalism'.
Coca Cola is tricking more people out their money Keane, who cares...
Do you think ED is journalism too?
Anyways, you fail, I'm done
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist It's not a debate, it's an interview, and you're bias against the interviewee.
It's not just his 'friends' you tard. They are people. I suppose you don't care about people getting their lives threatened. And that's fine, but I find you to be a bit of a cock for it. It's not about gossip, what he did bordered on completely illegal.
Yeah, seriously, who cares if people are being bastards? Just let them do it.
Anyways. You fail, I'm done.
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi whats the title??? DEBATE Fakegan VS Straighd0pe... fucking moron, yeah you care sooooo much, that's the allure of faggy tabloids, care of humanity, puh-lease, you thrive on the bone of gossipy character slander (you know that which SD shields his cunt from), stop posturing empathy, it's sickeningly dishonest. Hypocrite, do you rat on your friends when they illegally smoke pot you fucking Nancy? I guess illegal is only cool when SD approves it like prostitution, huh (pwned bitch).
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist ...Wow...that's your argument? "It's a debate because the title says it's a debate!"
Is the holy bible a holy book because it says it's holy? Fucking moron.
It's dishonest to make it look like I'm empathetic. I see, and you have reason to believe I'm NOT empathetic?
Prostitution isn't illegal in Canada...so you're an idiot. And marijuana has no harmful effects, so no, I don't care if people smoke it.
Also, claiming pwnage is the classic sign of a moron.
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi Shutup psych major (pseudo science btw) Stop talking about the Bible and playing your pandering atheist card (pussy move), it has nothing to do with the issue (pandering secular humanist retard).
This isn't about you, it's about the issue of the debate. Stop whining.
Do you call your friends out when the smoke hypocrite? Bullshit arguments destroyed...
Subbing to Thunderfag is a sign of herd mentality you dumbass.
Go favorite a shawndawson vou you sub intellectual half wit.
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist If it's a pseudo science, explain why it's being taught in legitimate universities. Go.
What? You said this was a debate because the vid title says it's a debate. Sorry, but that doesn't necessarily follow, and it's stupid to say such things, I used the term Holy Bible as a comparison. It's not Holy just because it SAYS it's Holy.
No I don't call my friends out, I already said that I have no secular reason to be against marijuana smoke.
So I can't sub to people.
BigLundi 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist Please please PLEASE tell me who I'm allowed and not allowed to sub to.
Throughout this discussion you've claimed winning the argument several times. The fact that you can't see how childish this is is...well, it's entertaining, and a classic sign of having an superiority complex. You do not want to think yourself as wrong, and immediately picture my argument as being destroyed without any consideration that YOU might be in the wrong.
Also, what's a vou?
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi Your subs reflect on you, welcome youtube.
I've defeated your positions several times....
You replied my comment, I'm simply putting your bs in it's place. This has degenerated into a flame war and I have the superior argument, period. You lost have some dignity and move along or reply with a better argument.
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist You CLAIM to defeat my positions several times. *fixed.
You're not really putting me in my place, you simply claim you have, and have the superior argument. You havent' demonstrated you've won in any way, you haven't demonstrated why it is that your argument is superior. All you've done is make presuppositions about me that are entirely taken at face value, strawman me, misrepresent me, and then claim victory.
You're the mental equivalent of a child. :)
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi Whining with no argument, state one and shove down your throat again you troll.
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist I'm the troll? According to Fakey's definition of what a troll is, you're the troll in this here argument, and since you agree with him so readily, you would be perfectly fine with admitting to that.
I've put forth many arguments you haven't debunked in any valid and sound manner, though of course that doesn't stop you from being a narcissist and simply claiming victory ANYWAY.
Keep posting please, I love watching you demonstrate yourself to be a complete tool. :)
BigLundi 6 months ago
@BigLundi BLAH BLAH BLAH, HE SAID, SHE SAID, NUT UP STATE YOUR ARGUMENT
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist Thanks for demonstrating my "You're the mental equivalent of a child" point.
You said earlier psychology is a peseudo science .Care to elaborate on why that is, and why all the peer reviewed papers on the subject are complete bunk?
BigLundi 6 months ago
In a debate between Fakesagan and Straightd0pe, the winner is Darth Vader.
Sarahon06 7 months ago
fakey gets so owned, lmao....
thedayitriedtodie 7 months ago
Lol d0pe sounds like jesse eisenberg. he can't give away his identity
xplah 7 months ago
"He presses him to think that anyone who wants to criticize someone else should have the audacity to show there face, otherwise there a coward."......... ?
Does that read strange to anyone else in the description box?
Shawnruss 7 months ago
I'm only fucking 1 hour and abit over in mins of this debate, and it's gonna last another 2 hours watching this. Though the description pretty much covers it, might just skip a hour.
benos 7 months ago
People need to make mulitple videos about someone, as they haven't covered the full story.
benos 7 months ago
It's the "who has the bigger dick" debate for some people.
benos 7 months ago
"I HATE WHAT YOU FUCKING DO"
So much, that straightd0pe hates what brett or fakey does. Like I hate what goronchev does, but not in a "i hate him forever and forever" kind of way. Though he went so far to finding my personal info in a lulzy video.
benos 7 months ago
Yep, fake's a ass kisser. :)
benos 7 months ago
This is a pretty much a "internet tough guy" debate. Fake's winning at being a fuckstain..
benos 7 months ago
Brett Keane lives on welfare.
benos 7 months ago
26 mins in, starts getting feisty.
benos 7 months ago
lol I stopped looking at the screen, having to stare fakey's face for 23 mins, still think they shouldn't try to talk over one another. that is all.
benos 7 months ago
Fakey is properly just sipping his drink to calm his nerves on how his ego is reaching critical mass.
benos 7 months ago
I understand, SD claims to have a lawyer, SD makes these videos so no one should care if his face is shown or not.
benos 7 months ago
@benos He needs a lawyer to make gossip videos? That's hilarious.
brokennarcissist 6 months ago
@brokennarcissist You must of read wrong. I'm saying he claims he has a lawyer. But his lawyer has nothing to do with anything about what he does in these videos.
benos 6 months ago
@SmokingNtheGraveyard Basically you think straightd0pe has a "hidden agenda" because he doesn't want to show his face that might have him given the fact he has to face the consequences or so fake or brett has a face to laugh at? Nor, how that is a consequences. Even so brett showed his face, but SD showed him what consequences were when Brett Keane lied his ass off. You can't "expose" someone just because their face wasn't showed, unless a "good" reason is involved.
benos 7 months ago
@benos "hidden agenda"? wtf are you talking about? I made one simple point. SD makes fun of the way people look, while you can't see him. It's a low move. Thats it. I support him on exposing BK and all that, on this one issue, I disagree.
SmokingNtheGraveyard 7 months ago
Fakey mostly just talked over him, really. Either way, most people talk over people in debates.
benos 7 months ago
I hate to agree with fakey, but he has a good point. Its totally unfair of dope to attack the way people look, while hiding himself. Its an unfair advantage. He loses credibillity on that one.
SmokingNtheGraveyard 7 months ago
@SmokingNtheGraveyard No he doesn't. Having to show one's face is some retarded macho test put forward by fakesagan and brett. If they are stupid enough to put their face on video, then so be it. They shouldn't expect others to do so.
steinarrexfaroensis 7 months ago
@steinarrexfaroensis yes, he does. I don't think everyone needs to show thier face on youtube, but when you hide yourself while making fun of the way other people look, it gives him an unfair advantage and does not help his points at all.
SmokingNtheGraveyard 7 months ago
@steinarrexfaroensis you seemed to have missed my point. If SD only talked about ebegging, false flagging, etc, then showing himself is a mute point. Once he starts making fun of the way people look, then it makes perfect sense that people would expect him to show himself.
SmokingNtheGraveyard 7 months ago
But I totally agree, it was a Q & A.
benos 7 months ago
I think sagan knew brett failed, and just wanted to try at dope too. Obviously, saga got pwned because of captainawesome pwning a girlfriend of sagan's vagina. Real ownage here.
benos 7 months ago
I watched 10 minutes of this "debate" - I had to quit watching.
This is simply unbearable and how anyone sat through 3 1/2 hours of this garbage baffles me.
RiseOfSuperDogAway96 7 months ago
I don't like how fakesagan considers anonymity to be not knowing about someone's personal life, but then goes on to say that no one really -knows- Brett. I mean, wouldn't that make Brett anonymous similarly to straightd0pe?
samanthathesoulless 7 months ago
@samanthathesoulless Though, Brett Keane has already got his doc dropped, by his own full name, it's easy to find. lol he lives in Fetsus, MO.
benos 7 months ago
I am only 14 min into this and will ofer my opinion. straightdope is a very overweight person. you can usally tell buy the tone of there voice in comparason to what age they approx are. And another point I agree with TheSmothTerorist. If you are not willing to show your face you should not be talking about someone eleses looks. StraightDope is a Fucking Idot.
enok45 7 months ago
@enok45 You don't feel like Fakesagan was blowing up on a few insults because he was desperate for something to attack straightd0pe on?
MysteriousMayonaise 7 months ago
@enok45 : I love the indignation. Insulting looks is stupid period moron!
So what's left over?
pyrrho314 7 months ago
Fake fans - YEAH HE PWNT D0PE
D0pe fans - PWNT FAKE!!
It wasn't even a debate, it was a Q&A, everyone knew that..
You can't win an interview.
xmewx18 7 months ago
i made it to 1:51:07, what do i win?! this is truly unbrearable
idkthisisthirdtry 7 months ago
Fakey failed so hard in thisso called "Debate".... I feel kinda bad for him...
Rekkie88 7 months ago
That's fine, but we must agree that straightdope is a giant pussy for insulting appearances when he won't show his own face.
tommylehman 7 months ago
Great debate, the guy below me is a dumb fucking idiot.
Fakesagan pwned it. Big time.
White14Man 7 months ago
are you joking?, i honestly can't tell.... any non-trollish response would be helpful, regards
idkthisisthirdtry 7 months ago
@White14Man Lol wut? On what fucking planet?
LORDUnLuCkY13 7 months ago
@LORDUnLuCkY13 Cool dude! Great story!
White14Man 7 months ago
fakesagan=douche, this "debate" almost unbearable....
idkthisisthirdtry 7 months ago
Why doesn't straightdope want to show his face? This is a silly "debate" but if you're going to insult the appearance of other people on youtube via videos but won't show your face you are a cowardly pussy.
tommylehman 7 months ago
@tommylehman : perhaps he does that so people that don't want to deal with the other issues have an easy out to whine about.
pyrrho314 7 months ago
@tommylehman
Calm down. If you don't want to show your face on the internet, then you want people to focus on your arguments. Makes sense, doesn't it? Internet is the home of Anonymous, and straightd0pe belongs to anonymous.
justforflag2 7 months ago
It's like a fucking train wreck. I didn't think there could be anyone dumber than Brett, but Fakey took the cake on this one. God Sagan is a moron!
Anqueetus 7 months ago
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tommylehman 7 months ago
Fakesagan lost it at the end.
PinkFloydDroid88 7 months ago
@PinkFloydDroid88
Fakesagan lost it during the entire thing.
Moonfane14 7 months ago