I don't think my perspective will be completely Kantian, definitely not Cartesian, not really like Aquinas', or like modern apologists (WLC for example). Mine might appear to be a little unique. Maybe not.
@TheFunkyTheist Epistemology is tricky business. I'm not sure that I %100 agree with Kant either, but his is definitely a well thought out one. Much better than anything I'd think of at this point in my life, and 100x better than empiricism. :P
@TheCartesianTheist What I meant was that I am definitely going to differ on some epistemic beliefs that Descartes had. For example, I don't think I agree with the idea that knowledge requires certainty. It seems his argument in regards to skepticism assumed that. That's just one example. I still consider Descartes freaking brilliant as hell.
No worries. I'm only joking around. I am not Cartesian in that sense either. Infact most modern philosophers who might describe themselves as neo-Cartesian have elements in it they modify. That's just the nature of philosophy. I never read any philosopher I agreed with 100%. However Kant was the devil!!
Unshown... and indeed, it seems that you are merely projecting your own problems onto me: what justified grounds do you have to make and assess metaphysical claims?
You have already shown yourself to be WAY out of your depth. And as inviting as this invitation is - to teach you one-on-one metaphysics, I usually get paid so forgive my decline but occassionally a student comes along who appears completely disingenuous and when that happens I save my precious time. All the best.
Out of my depth? Another unsupported claim... as is the one about 'teaching' me something about a domain of inquiry that has not been shown to be accessible. 'Disingenuous' is the theist who doesn't put up, but won't shut up.
@adrenacrumb What troll channels? He had aikidocrazy which was his non-philosophy channel but that was it. (though I had heard that Dhorpatan was paranoid about him having a million channels)
@JohananRaatz Okay, so why did he often refer to CartesianTheist under that name as a different person? There's a reason he left and it wasn't because anyone cared who dropped his docs obviously.
@JohananRaatz Also CT went down like a bitch blaming DM for everything and saying the reason he left was because someone had threatened to drop his docs within 2 hours of shutting it down.
@JohananRaatz He then proceeded to use his akidocrazy account to blame DM in his comments well after he shut it down and I doubt the police told him that would be a very smart move.
@adrenacrumb Actually I just heard an explanation that would resolve what I had previously heard. Which would make even more sense now. DM was just squawking over something he had no knowledge of.
@adrenacrumb That's it. That's all I heard. Frankly, from what I saw I thought the whole thing was kind of stupid -on both sides. Though the parts where CT was boasting in his trailer, and DM comes back with his video driving around in his macho-man car, were both pretty hilarious.
@JohananRaatz Well now that he is back he is obviously going to take the time to clear his good name I'm sure, why wouldn't that be the first thing he does? He seems to be pretty chatty about defending himself already, or did the police tell him to never talk about it?
@JohananRaatz You won't believe this but when I brought it up in his comments instead of giving any sort of explanation he deleted my comment.... exactly what an innocent person would do. You people already know that retard is guilty of what he did, it is just funny to hear all of your excuses to defend an obviously guilty person.
@adrenacrumb Guilty of what exactly though? I heard CT supposedly harassed DM's wife in a comment or something, ("harassing in a comment" sounds like silliness in the first place) using aikidocrazy (which from what I know was either CT's sock account, his other channel, or his brother-in-law's channel). When I saw the comment though it was something rather trivial -like how her husband is getting "owned" in youtube. If that's what he's "guilty" of I don't see the big deal.
Well what exactly happened? All I heard was from Dhorpatan that he was harassing DM's wife via comments with aikidocrazy. I saw the comment on DM's wife's page that was supposedly the basis of it all, and it was just some stupid snarky comment. The part about the police wanting him to shut his account down for his own safety I heard from CT himself when I asked.
Unless there is something else about all this that you know that I don't.
@JohananRaatz Dude what are you not getting about you can just ask what happened? I'm just saying if he lies about it DM is telling the truth and can expose him then that is what should be done.
I did ask. Both Dhorpatan, DM, and CT. (I got aikidocrazy being CT from DM) CT seems to have a sock called aikidocrazy that DM exposed, and CT used that sock to write a snarky comment on DM's wife's wall. A juvenile thing to do sure, I just don't get what the big deal is.
"can expose him"
But we already know aikidocrazy is CT (likely) and aikidocrazy wrote a dumb comment on DM's wife's wall. So what? It's the internet. People act dumb on it.
@JohananRaatz You don't see the big deal with someone using a sock account to message someone's wife you are having a debate with? He must have thought it was a big deal since he closed his account to keep DM from making this public.
@adrenacrumb No he said he shut his account down, because the police told him to do it so that DM couldn't stalk him as easily.
"using a sock account to message someone's wife you are having a debate with?"
Dumb yes, and rather juvenile, but a big deal? No, it was just a retarded comment. I get dozens of retarded comments all of the time from people who are fans of people I debate. Big deal. This is the internet. People will act stupid. Get over it.
@JohananRaatz So CT owned up to this publicly somewhere right? Where was that? Do you happen to know if he told the police he messaged DM's wife, which is stalking?
@adrenacrumb "So CT owned up to this publicly somewhere right?"
No, all he told me was that the police suggested he shut his account down for his families safety. I heard it was his in-laws account from a second hand source.
"he messaged DM's wife, which is stalking?"
Are you trolling? Shut up. I get a bazillion dumb comments from people who are fans of my debaters. They're not stalkers. Leaving a dumb comment = being dumb =/= stalking.
Taking the time to find somone's wife you had a debate with and leaving a comment about her occupation isn't stalking? What does it matter whose account it was, he would still need to own up when this came out about what was really happening.
@adrenacrumb "Taking the time to find somone's wife you had a debate with and leaving a comment about her occupation isn't stalking?"
About her occupation? I didn't hear that part yet. Fill me in. As for "finding her" I was under the impression her account was already known.
"own up when this came out"
That's why I was asking you if there was something more to this than I had heard. Based on what I had seen thus far, it just seems like a dumb feud & DM's and CT's behaviors make no sense.
@JohananRaatz Listen, finding someones family member you debated and messaging them is stalking, it is absolutely retarded, there is no reason in the world any sane person would think of doing that and the fact you think that is no big deal quite frankly makes you look insane.
Is that what happened though? Because thus far I never heard anything like that. If that's what happened just say so. Was it the aikidocrazy account? And let me see the comment.
"messaging them is stalking,"
Bragging to someone's family member isn't "stalking," and it sounds retarded of you to call it that. It's just being juvenile. Digging up their place of occupation yes that is. But if that is what happened then this is news to me.
@JohananRaatz Well let's see here, you know CT left a comment on his wifes page, go through and look at all of the comments on her page about her being a nurse. How did these people just happen to go across her page and do the same thing CT did?
@adrenacrumb What was it again MrsDarkMatter or something like that?
"How did these people just happen to go across her page and do the same thing CT did?"
I don't know.CT saw it and copied it? Or are you saying CT has lots of sock accounts? Because all I heard about is the one -assuming it is in fact a sock. Dhorpatan said he had all sorts of sock accounts, but when I asked him for evidence he never provided any, and knowing Dhorpatan he tends to be paranoid about people having socks anyway.
@JohananRaatz Well that would imply a lot of his fans just happened to have the same idea of looking for his family members, great minds think alike huh?
@adrenacrumb The only comment I saw on DM's wife's page from aikidocrazy had nothing to do with his wife being a nurse, and I never saw any of the other comments. So I don't even know if aikidocrazy mentioned his wife being a nurse. Unless you show me some other comments I haven't seen yet.
I'm trying to find MrsDarkMatter atm and it doesn't seem to be showing up. I think that was it. Is that right?
@JohananRaatz Is that pretty common for people to hunt down and harass family members of a person someone you are subd to after they themselves had done the same thing?
@adrenacrumb "Is that pretty common for people to hunt down"
"Hunt" assumes that her page wasn't already known about.
"and harass family members of a person someone you are subd to"
If by "harrass" you mean a dumb comment. Yeah, it's retarded but it happens a lot because people tend to be idiots on the internet. My fans used to get called names by Dhorpatan all of the time. That doesn't mean he's a stalker though, just a troll.
@JohananRaatz People were messaging her I believe and one person brought up her occupation like I said before, just look for the word nurse, that is way beyond a dumb comment. CT has some absoluytely psychotic fans then because anyone with real morals which obviously doesn't include you would see this as going way over the line.
@adrenacrumb "What you can't find her account but numerous subs of his were able to get there with no problem?"
A.) When I was there before I don't recall numerous subs saying anything about her being a nurse. I have no idea where you are getting this from.
B.) I don't hang around DM's channel, maybe DM's wife is known to people who do. I had heard though that DM's wife was also well known. (again I don't even know about any of that because no one is giving me info)
@JohananRaatz Oh yea man she is incredibly well known, she hadn't made a video and I think she had about 5 comments on her page until they started harassing her. I'm confused when I asked you about all of this earlier on you never said CT was the source for any of your information.
@adrenacrumb "I'm confused when I asked you about all of this earlier on you never said CT was the source for any of your information."
I believe I did. I already told you, CT told me that DM was stalking him and that the police advised him to shut down his account for his families safety.
"she hadn't made a video and I think she had about 5 comments on her page until they started"
Now that is something I can check out, but why didn't you say so before?
@JohananRaatz In fact since you must have just messaged CT about this today since you kept giving me information from other people and not CT himself, shouldn't you have that still?
@adrenacrumb "In fact since you must have just messaged CT about this today"
No it was before when this first started. I haven't heard anything from CT about this since then. Information from other people is all I have. Thus far all I've seen is that it's a feud over a dumb comment left by an account which may or may not be CT's. I haven't seen any corroboration or evidence behind anything else -the nurse part, the bunch of accounts etc. If you have some please show me -for the 30th time.
@adrenacrumb Would you kindly stop being an ass? You've just given me a bunch of speculations and assertions -and that only after I've asked you like 20 times for an account of what was actually going on. (and from my recollection aikidocrazy's comment said nothing about DM's wife being a nurse -unless there's one I don't know of -in which case show me)
@JohananRaatz Me stop giving speculation, that is quite hilarious sir considering your first 10 comments to me started with 'I heard'. Well how about since good old CT is back you message him again and get word for word what happened, should be no problem, you can PM me or post it here.
@adrenacrumb I was just telling you what I heard. I wasn't making definitive claims about what had happened like you were.
"Well how about since good old CT is back you message him again and get word for word what happened,"
I already said I did. He said that DM was stalking him based on some idea that he had left a comment on DM's wife's page, and that he reported it to the police, like I said before. All I have to go on on the comment part is the circumstantial evidence that CT is AC.
@JohananRaatz So if I had a debate with you and I searched around and found out you had a kid and then messaged him with a sock account saying I hope you had fun at whatever school he goes to that is good with you?
@JohananRaatz If you ever have the thought process 'hmmm just had a debate with someone and don't like the way it turned out what should I do. I know, I'll look for his family members and leave them comments with a sock account, that seems quite reasonable' you need to go get your head examined.
I didn't say I thought it was 'quite reasonable.' I said it was retarded. It is equally retarded however to equate that with stalking.
People act like retards on the internet, this doesn't mean it is reasonable or a good idea, but it's not a big deal either so kindly: watch?v=WL1lfSzgcAw
@JohananRaatz I highly doubt all of the people that were harrassing her were there of their own accord doing the same thing CT did. At the very least if he wasn't all of those accounts he sould have right then owned up to the comment and told people to stop doing that. Really funny he just happens to leave comments on her page and then a bunch of people do the same thing isn't it?
@adrenacrumb "Also if it's no big deal then why did CT constantly deny it and not just own up since it is no big deal and everything."
Well
a.) It is possible that it wasn't his -I've since heard it was his brother-in-laws account.
b.) That's why I'm asking you if there was more to it than some dumb troll comment. It doesn't make sense to me that CT and DM would be making a big deal over a silly comment. So I suspect there's more to the story, only no one's told me. So what is it?
@JohananRaatz PM him and then come tell me what his story is so he can be vindicated or if he is still denying what happened and his channel needs to be shut down.
OMG! CartesianTheist resurrected from the dead just like Jesus. He must be god!
sgResIpsaLoquitur 2 weeks ago
the skype address is "fishoftime" not "thefishoftime"
ThePuppyTurtle 3 months ago
Do you record the shows? I can't watch live due to the time differences and I'd like to see your creationism show.
NoeLPZC 3 months ago
@NoeLPZC Yup. The link to the youtube channel is in the description. idk when the videos will be uploaded yet.
owchywawa 3 months ago
@owchywawa Cool.
NoeLPZC 3 months ago
Wow. I am actually planning on doing a "why I'm a christian" project too, addressing similar issues that you apparently will be. Look forward to it.
TheFunkyTheist 3 months ago
@TheFunkyTheist I'll probably be doing it from a Kantian prospective too. :P
owchywawa 3 months ago
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TheFunkyTheist 3 months ago
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TheFunkyTheist 3 months ago
Interesting. I look forward to it.
I don't think my perspective will be completely Kantian, definitely not Cartesian, not really like Aquinas', or like modern apologists (WLC for example). Mine might appear to be a little unique. Maybe not.
TheFunkyTheist 3 months ago
@TheFunkyTheist Epistemology is tricky business. I'm not sure that I %100 agree with Kant either, but his is definitely a well thought out one. Much better than anything I'd think of at this point in my life, and 100x better than empiricism. :P
owchywawa 3 months ago
@TheFunkyTheist
"...definitely not Cartesian..." :(
TheCartesianTheist 2 months ago
@TheCartesianTheist What I meant was that I am definitely going to differ on some epistemic beliefs that Descartes had. For example, I don't think I agree with the idea that knowledge requires certainty. It seems his argument in regards to skepticism assumed that. That's just one example. I still consider Descartes freaking brilliant as hell.
TheFunkyTheist 2 months ago
@TheFunkyTheist
No worries. I'm only joking around. I am not Cartesian in that sense either. Infact most modern philosophers who might describe themselves as neo-Cartesian have elements in it they modify. That's just the nature of philosophy. I never read any philosopher I agreed with 100%. However Kant was the devil!!
TheCartesianTheist 2 months ago
@TheCartesianTheist
Kant's work did prove devilish to those with metaphysical addictions.
plightweisgoff 3 weeks ago
@plightweisgoff
Then you don't know Kant too well! :(
TheCartesianTheist 3 weeks ago
@TheCartesianTheist
For all your grasping for them Noumena... you're still coming up empty.
plightweisgoff 3 weeks ago
@plightweisgoff
But you're only dealing in 'phenomena' - did you not know?! Unless you wanna do some metaphysics of course? ;)
TheCartesianTheist 3 weeks ago
@TheCartesianTheist
Tis better to deal with phenomena than ephemera. Metaphysics is a wholly pointless exercise.
plightweisgoff 3 weeks ago
@plightweisgoff
"Metaphysics is a wholly pointless exercise."
I take it you don't mean that to be read as a metaphysical truth claim in the slightest? ;)
TheCartesianTheist 3 weeks ago
@TheCartesianTheist
Nope... it's just the inevitable result of following your pretensions to their logical (or illogical) ends.
plightweisgoff 3 weeks ago
@plightweisgoff
I'm so glad you don't want that read as a metaphysical truth. It doesn't change the fact that you're still in a hole of your own digging.
TheCartesianTheist 3 weeks ago
@TheCartesianTheist
Unshown... and indeed, it seems that you are merely projecting your own problems onto me: what justified grounds do you have to make and assess metaphysical claims?
plightweisgoff 3 weeks ago
@plightweisgoff
You have already shown yourself to be WAY out of your depth. And as inviting as this invitation is - to teach you one-on-one metaphysics, I usually get paid so forgive my decline but occassionally a student comes along who appears completely disingenuous and when that happens I save my precious time. All the best.
TheCartesianTheist 3 weeks ago
@TheCartesianTheist
Out of my depth? Another unsupported claim... as is the one about 'teaching' me something about a domain of inquiry that has not been shown to be accessible. 'Disingenuous' is the theist who doesn't put up, but won't shut up.
plightweisgoff 3 weeks ago
I liked it granted Creationism isn't my topic so I was awkward
snakebitgoat 3 months ago
I can't wait and I'm glad that CartesianTheist is back.
cguevara12 3 months ago 4
Great, who does he plan on harassing this time? Do you know the names of the troll channels he has set up to defend himself as well?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb What troll channels? He had aikidocrazy which was his non-philosophy channel but that was it. (though I had heard that Dhorpatan was paranoid about him having a million channels)
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Okay, so why did he often refer to CartesianTheist under that name as a different person? There's a reason he left and it wasn't because anyone cared who dropped his docs obviously.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "There's a reason he left and it wasn't because anyone cared who dropped his docs obviously."
The story I heard was that the police advised him to shut the channel down, for his safety, until they investigated into DM.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz That makes little to no sense, why not just make it unavailable?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Also CT went down like a bitch blaming DM for everything and saying the reason he left was because someone had threatened to drop his docs within 2 hours of shutting it down.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz He then proceeded to use his akidocrazy account to blame DM in his comments well after he shut it down and I doubt the police told him that would be a very smart move.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Show me a single post from aikidocrazy where he claims to be CartesianTheist because there are numerous examples of him denying it.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb Actually I just heard an explanation that would resolve what I had previously heard. Which would make even more sense now. DM was just squawking over something he had no knowledge of.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Do go on.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb That's it. That's all I heard. Frankly, from what I saw I thought the whole thing was kind of stupid -on both sides. Though the parts where CT was boasting in his trailer, and DM comes back with his video driving around in his macho-man car, were both pretty hilarious.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago 2
@JohananRaatz Well now that he is back he is obviously going to take the time to clear his good name I'm sure, why wouldn't that be the first thing he does? He seems to be pretty chatty about defending himself already, or did the police tell him to never talk about it?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz You won't believe this but when I brought it up in his comments instead of giving any sort of explanation he deleted my comment.... exactly what an innocent person would do. You people already know that retard is guilty of what he did, it is just funny to hear all of your excuses to defend an obviously guilty person.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
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JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb Guilty of what exactly though? I heard CT supposedly harassed DM's wife in a comment or something, ("harassing in a comment" sounds like silliness in the first place) using aikidocrazy (which from what I know was either CT's sock account, his other channel, or his brother-in-law's channel). When I saw the comment though it was something rather trivial -like how her husband is getting "owned" in youtube. If that's what he's "guilty" of I don't see the big deal.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Why are you still using wild speculation, how about you ask yourself since he is back.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "denying what happened"
Well what exactly happened? All I heard was from Dhorpatan that he was harassing DM's wife via comments with aikidocrazy. I saw the comment on DM's wife's page that was supposedly the basis of it all, and it was just some stupid snarky comment. The part about the police wanting him to shut his account down for his own safety I heard from CT himself when I asked.
Unless there is something else about all this that you know that I don't.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Dude what are you not getting about you can just ask what happened? I'm just saying if he lies about it DM is telling the truth and can expose him then that is what should be done.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "can just ask what happened?"
I did ask. Both Dhorpatan, DM, and CT. (I got aikidocrazy being CT from DM) CT seems to have a sock called aikidocrazy that DM exposed, and CT used that sock to write a snarky comment on DM's wife's wall. A juvenile thing to do sure, I just don't get what the big deal is.
"can expose him"
But we already know aikidocrazy is CT (likely) and aikidocrazy wrote a dumb comment on DM's wife's wall. So what? It's the internet. People act dumb on it.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz You don't see the big deal with someone using a sock account to message someone's wife you are having a debate with? He must have thought it was a big deal since he closed his account to keep DM from making this public.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb No he said he shut his account down, because the police told him to do it so that DM couldn't stalk him as easily.
"using a sock account to message someone's wife you are having a debate with?"
Dumb yes, and rather juvenile, but a big deal? No, it was just a retarded comment. I get dozens of retarded comments all of the time from people who are fans of people I debate. Big deal. This is the internet. People will act stupid. Get over it.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz So CT owned up to this publicly somewhere right? Where was that? Do you happen to know if he told the police he messaged DM's wife, which is stalking?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "So CT owned up to this publicly somewhere right?"
No, all he told me was that the police suggested he shut his account down for his families safety. I heard it was his in-laws account from a second hand source.
"he messaged DM's wife, which is stalking?"
Are you trolling? Shut up. I get a bazillion dumb comments from people who are fans of my debaters. They're not stalkers. Leaving a dumb comment = being dumb =/= stalking.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
Taking the time to find somone's wife you had a debate with and leaving a comment about her occupation isn't stalking? What does it matter whose account it was, he would still need to own up when this came out about what was really happening.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "Taking the time to find somone's wife you had a debate with and leaving a comment about her occupation isn't stalking?"
About her occupation? I didn't hear that part yet. Fill me in. As for "finding her" I was under the impression her account was already known.
"own up when this came out"
That's why I was asking you if there was something more to this than I had heard. Based on what I had seen thus far, it just seems like a dumb feud & DM's and CT's behaviors make no sense.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Listen, finding someones family member you debated and messaging them is stalking, it is absolutely retarded, there is no reason in the world any sane person would think of doing that and the fact you think that is no big deal quite frankly makes you look insane.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "comment about her occupation"
Is that what happened though? Because thus far I never heard anything like that. If that's what happened just say so. Was it the aikidocrazy account? And let me see the comment.
"messaging them is stalking,"
Bragging to someone's family member isn't "stalking," and it sounds retarded of you to call it that. It's just being juvenile. Digging up their place of occupation yes that is. But if that is what happened then this is news to me.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Well let's see here, you know CT left a comment on his wifes page, go through and look at all of the comments on her page about her being a nurse. How did these people just happen to go across her page and do the same thing CT did?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb What was it again MrsDarkMatter or something like that?
"How did these people just happen to go across her page and do the same thing CT did?"
I don't know.CT saw it and copied it? Or are you saying CT has lots of sock accounts? Because all I heard about is the one -assuming it is in fact a sock. Dhorpatan said he had all sorts of sock accounts, but when I asked him for evidence he never provided any, and knowing Dhorpatan he tends to be paranoid about people having socks anyway.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Well that would imply a lot of his fans just happened to have the same idea of looking for his family members, great minds think alike huh?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
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JohananRaatz 3 months ago
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@adrenacrumb The only comment I saw on DM's wife's page from aikidocrazy had nothing to do with his wife being a nurse, and I never saw any of the other comments. So I don't even know if aikidocrazy mentioned his wife being a nurse. Unless you show me some other comments I haven't seen yet.
I'm trying to find MrsDarkMatter atm and it doesn't seem to be showing up. I think that was it. Is that right?
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Is that pretty common for people to hunt down and harass family members of a person someone you are subd to after they themselves had done the same thing?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "Is that pretty common for people to hunt down"
"Hunt" assumes that her page wasn't already known about.
"and harass family members of a person someone you are subd to"
If by "harrass" you mean a dumb comment. Yeah, it's retarded but it happens a lot because people tend to be idiots on the internet. My fans used to get called names by Dhorpatan all of the time. That doesn't mean he's a stalker though, just a troll.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz People were messaging her I believe and one person brought up her occupation like I said before, just look for the word nurse, that is way beyond a dumb comment. CT has some absoluytely psychotic fans then because anyone with real morals which obviously doesn't include you would see this as going way over the line.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz This kind of thing doesn't happen on its own, you don't have a whole bunch of subs all go do something this retarded.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb Show me these other comments then. (I can't find DM's wife's channel for some reason) When I looked on her page all I saw was the one.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz What you can't find her account but numerous subs of his were able to get there with no problem?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "What you can't find her account but numerous subs of his were able to get there with no problem?"
A.) When I was there before I don't recall numerous subs saying anything about her being a nurse. I have no idea where you are getting this from.
B.) I don't hang around DM's channel, maybe DM's wife is known to people who do. I had heard though that DM's wife was also well known. (again I don't even know about any of that because no one is giving me info)
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Oh yea man she is incredibly well known, she hadn't made a video and I think she had about 5 comments on her page until they started harassing her. I'm confused when I asked you about all of this earlier on you never said CT was the source for any of your information.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "I'm confused when I asked you about all of this earlier on you never said CT was the source for any of your information."
I believe I did. I already told you, CT told me that DM was stalking him and that the police advised him to shut down his account for his families safety.
"she hadn't made a video and I think she had about 5 comments on her page until they started"
Now that is something I can check out, but why didn't you say so before?
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Searching mrsdarkmatter was how I found it the first time so I have no idea how to get there since it doesn't bring anything up.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb Ok, that's what I did. I couldn't find it either.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz In fact since you must have just messaged CT about this today since you kept giving me information from other people and not CT himself, shouldn't you have that still?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "In fact since you must have just messaged CT about this today"
No it was before when this first started. I haven't heard anything from CT about this since then. Information from other people is all I have. Thus far all I've seen is that it's a feud over a dumb comment left by an account which may or may not be CT's. I haven't seen any corroboration or evidence behind anything else -the nurse part, the bunch of accounts etc. If you have some please show me -for the 30th time.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Cool so ask him and have him tell you what happened and then tell me like I told you 3 hours ago.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb I will, I wanted to hear your story as well though. Obviously if he did something bad he'd give a slanted view anyway.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz I can't find her account either, they must have done some serious investigating or she has closed it.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz You are an idiot, and I mean an absolutely certified idiot if you don't think everything that happened is attributed to CT.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb Would you kindly stop being an ass? You've just given me a bunch of speculations and assertions -and that only after I've asked you like 20 times for an account of what was actually going on. (and from my recollection aikidocrazy's comment said nothing about DM's wife being a nurse -unless there's one I don't know of -in which case show me)
So please put up or shut up.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Me stop giving speculation, that is quite hilarious sir considering your first 10 comments to me started with 'I heard'. Well how about since good old CT is back you message him again and get word for word what happened, should be no problem, you can PM me or post it here.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb I was just telling you what I heard. I wasn't making definitive claims about what had happened like you were.
"Well how about since good old CT is back you message him again and get word for word what happened,"
I already said I did. He said that DM was stalking him based on some idea that he had left a comment on DM's wife's page, and that he reported it to the police, like I said before. All I have to go on on the comment part is the circumstantial evidence that CT is AC.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
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JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz So if I had a debate with you and I searched around and found out you had a kid and then messaged him with a sock account saying I hope you had fun at whatever school he goes to that is good with you?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "I hope you had fun at whatever school he goes to that is good with you?"
That would be different yes, but all I've heard thus far is that CT left a dumb comment on DM's wife's page about CT "pwning DM" or something.
Which is why I asked you -several times now- if there is something else here that I don't know about.
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz If you ever have the thought process 'hmmm just had a debate with someone and don't like the way it turned out what should I do. I know, I'll look for his family members and leave them comments with a sock account, that seems quite reasonable' you need to go get your head examined.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "that seems quite reasonable'"
I didn't say I thought it was 'quite reasonable.' I said it was retarded. It is equally retarded however to equate that with stalking.
People act like retards on the internet, this doesn't mean it is reasonable or a good idea, but it's not a big deal either so kindly: watch?v=WL1lfSzgcAw
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz I highly doubt all of the people that were harrassing her were there of their own accord doing the same thing CT did. At the very least if he wasn't all of those accounts he sould have right then owned up to the comment and told people to stop doing that. Really funny he just happens to leave comments on her page and then a bunch of people do the same thing isn't it?
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz Also if it's no big deal then why did CT constantly deny it and not just own up since it is no big deal and everything.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago
@adrenacrumb "Also if it's no big deal then why did CT constantly deny it and not just own up since it is no big deal and everything."
Well
a.) It is possible that it wasn't his -I've since heard it was his brother-in-laws account.
b.) That's why I'm asking you if there was more to it than some dumb troll comment. It doesn't make sense to me that CT and DM would be making a big deal over a silly comment. So I suspect there's more to the story, only no one's told me. So what is it?
JohananRaatz 3 months ago
@JohananRaatz PM him and then come tell me what his story is so he can be vindicated or if he is still denying what happened and his channel needs to be shut down.
adrenacrumb 3 months ago