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  • Evolution is just a theory? Really? Ok, well gravity is just a theory too. Come for a walk with me to that cliff over there.

  • @roguequokka Gravity is a law, evolution is a theory. Laws are inviolable, while theories explain the whys and hows of laws and facts. Theories can be tweaked and altered based on new knowledge about those hows and whys, while laws cannot.

  • @Mattgasq Sigh....i was just being droll. Thanks for schooling me unnecessarily.

  • @Mattgasq actually laws can be altered. The law of gravitation proposes by isaac newton has changed. Nothing is inviolable. Theories are the thing most close to being inviolable, since they combine a great amount of fact to form an explanation.

  • Why saying evolution is "Just a theory" doesn't prove your ignorant, it shows you're hard to deceive.

  • i love the change of use and understanding of the word THEORY until recent years they trying to back track on the original use of the word, hypothisis or guess was its meaning, it was used so that the scientist could avoid the 17th century "power hungry leaders" of the church would not have them killed.. now it is the top of the mountain, but it can change, while facts remain bottom and are solid.. sounds like the facts are the earth we stand on and theories are the wind that blows by..

  • Interesting video PJ.

    

  • why people on both sides of this debate always insist on using a hierarchy to describe how "important" a theory or law is? It's like trying to say that a car's engine block is more important than the design principles used in the cars design or the other way around. Both are important. I agree that theories ideally represent a unified model of systems that is backed strongly by evidence, but often even in the science community theory is thrown around a little too easily

  • @TheAlphaPyro not that I think evolution was labeled as a theory too quickly. The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Just read a simple book like "Why evolution is true" just for starters (and I mean just for starters)But string theory seems to need to be a bit more robust in the evidence department before we give it that status.

  • @ironpicket good job this video is explaining how theory is different in the scientific community. you get the award of being completely dumb and lost. why did u even sit at a computer and type what you just typed? you are so lost. its sad. i dont know how to apologize for how bad i feel for people like you that lack any mental power. scientists dont have a secret agenda....

  • @GermthaVicious

    "why did u even sit at a computer and type what you just typed?"

    *chough* U blind?? That was 10 months ago -_-

  • What happend to the lost art of Logic?

  • @Inmatinus Willy Lain Craig is still trying to hijack it and hide it so people cant tell he is a big fraud.

  • @ironpicket science has brought wonderful things like contraception. It's rather a shame your parents did not use the aforementioned.

  • @ironpicket 2 plus 2 equaling four is a fact by definition and meaning of the symbols. You don't have to make an observation.

  • @ironpicket He said OBSERVATIONAL FACT

  • @ironpicket you are a moron who is most likely impressed by what you probably believe to be your own massive vocabulary. leave science to the real scientists and go be an hero

  • when first man kind discovered that coffe makes people more energetic that was a fact the theory as to why was that drinking coffee gave people energy intill later it was discovered that the reason people are more energetic is because coffe blocks neuro recepters in the brian that bond with chemicals that cause fatigue i.e coffe doesnt give energy but takes away fatigue. to recap fact coffee makes you more energectic, theory coffee gives you energy, fact coffee eliminates fatigue facts r real

  • @orderofthenine but facts, in science, are subject to change. you just explained why a fact would change... read your comment again.

  • @TSyoutubin actually i didnt i said the fact about coffee was it made people more energetic the theory was that it gave you energy when in reallity it merely eliminates fatigue the fact that it makes people energetic is true as is the fact that it eliminates fatigue no fatigue means an energetic person but the theory that it creates energy is false it stimulates the mind but doesnt generate energy in the body so your mind says go even if your body says stop[

  • @TSyoutubin i understand your confusion about me saying caffiene making you energetic but not giving you energy if like lyndsey lohan you ever stayed up 3 days in a row surviving on a diet of red bull and cocaine nutill you collapse from exhaustion you'll know what i mean your mind and heart will be racing but your movement will be slugish asd if your arms and legs are 10 times heavier and your trudging around in pudding if it makes you feel better just pretend i said hyper instead

  • seriously this video only proves that some scientists are ignorant as to try to redifine

    truth and arrogant enough to think that thier believes are more important then the substanial and the factual

  • so for scientists and atheists to say religion is stupid for being based on theory and not fact and then protesting when religion says the same about science is a gross display of hypocracy like a child who can dish it out but then cant take it

  • by definition a bastard is a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child. yet people are so ignorant that those who are or who have children that are by definition bastards will refuse to except this fact so they seek to make thier own meaning for. i expect this behavior from normal people but from scientists who claim to pursue the truth to act in such a manner is inaccusable

  • hey call religion theology because its based on theory not facts the reason people like you regard religion as rediculios and science which is based on truth but if religious theory is fantasable why then is scientific theory not governed by the same principle

  • @orderofthenine You need people to change the bandage on your head from the lobotomy don't you.

  • theory -2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. fact - something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. defintions taken straight from the dictionary for scientist to try and munipulate truth to justify their believes is not only ignorant but hypocritical why should science have a diffrent set of rules then everyone else.

  • "I thought natural selection was survival of the fittest, not the most cowardly. See? Evolution has gaping holes in it" made me say aloud this guy is a friggin moron" then I typed it. U, a human being, see bravery as best, other animals dont know what that is. "Fittest" means best equipped to survive. If the "brave" animals die and the "cowardly" 1s survive due to their cowardice, then cowardice makes them the "fittest" with respect to their environment. That was a common sense explanation btw

  • @MrProgressivelib1 Some1 like me? U dont know anything about me. My name calling came from reading ur comments. Im no expert, but even with a basic understanding of evolution I can see how ur questions and "points " are just silly. I was going to address them, but others already did.

  • @MrProgressivelib I know this post is old, but I just had to say, wow, you're a friggin moron.

  • Randy, you mis-type in your description of the video that "Christians are taught" some kind of a lie about evolution. But we're taught the same evolutionary evidence and models as everyone else in high school biology. Christianity, being a religion, doesn't really talk about science--apart from when science is used to discuss the religion or when science is drawn into discussions of ethics (as it should be). You yourself recognize that it's only those who are ignorant who don't realize this.

  • Could someone please tell me what is the difference between Theory and Fact and how much they differ, please say what belief structure you have iswel ...

  • In science, a "fact" is just a piece of data. in science a "theory" is a collection of these pieces of data that has been tested and found to be a working model. out side of the scientific community,we use theory to mean a hypothysis or hunch but scientist don't. we use "fact" to mean something that is absolutely true. scientists dont. thats where the ignorance comes through. Creationists try to confuse the two so that you dont trust science.

  • Think of it terms of Theoretical and Practical Science.

    Practical science is almost always equals technological benefit. Most of these inventions come from people who do other jobs, like engineers and many times laymen.

    Theoretical science bases itself on its own conjecture and uses its own language and vocabulary. Unfortunately these conclusions are too often taken as "fact" or "proven" (i.e. wormholes, black holes, evolution, etc.) when they are really fairy tales like any other myth.

  • @MuseLogic ... so you are saying that wormholes, black holes, and evolution are fairy tales... you sir are very ignorant, go be an hero

  • iron, You must have found god. Because that is the only thing I've ever known that can cause a man to abandon logic and reason and vainly try to refute scientific theory. Also, choose your words more carefully. I seriously doubt that there are "thousands" of scientists around the globe who think the available data refutes evolution. For the ones who do, they are not considered credible scientists and are the equivalent to the snake handlers of Christianity. You're fooling no-one but yourself.

  • no they arent bragging that "facts" don't matter. the definition of what a fact is and what a theory is is much different from a non scientists definition. we define facts as indisputable truths, they dont use the word 'fact" the same way. if you cant figure that out then you didnt listen at all and already made up your mind when you know nothing about science which makes you the intellectually dishonest one.

  • How retarded. 2+2 = 4 is a FACT, but is much less important than the theory that explains WHY it equals 4. Thats the difference, grow a brain.

  • scientists do not define "facts" and "theory" the same way non scientists do. they mean other things. you argueing the way you define fact is is ignorant. if you cant see that then you have proven your ignorance and cant be expected to understand evolution anyway.

  • @ironpicket Wrong. They are accepting more logical views in comparison to being afraid of the almighty invisible sky daddy.

  • they can prolly PROVE what they are saying at some level. something that non-scientists who act like they know more about the study of science dont like to bother doing. You have to actually go to school and become a scientist before you can act like you know more than actual scientists. you cant just say that god told you they were idiots.....

  • @MrProgressivelib Remember that radiometric dating deals with time spans of billions of years, so yes there will be a few million years margin of error. still makes the dating method valid, as it shows that the Earth is billions of years old, and not 10000. 10000 and billions is a much larger margin of error, so big fail for religion

  • as for the comment on radiometric dating. At least science provides a margin of error. A margin of error that every good scientist factors into conclusions. Believe me I work with scientists. If one of them didnt consider the implications of these errors in a serious way then they would be a laughing stock. The bible doesnt really do a lot to validate its dates with evidence and margins of error does it?

  • Further more there are literally billions of specific cases which evolution could be questioned on. For people to be able to explain how it applies to every single case is asking a lot (especially on youtube). The simple fact is that evolution explains an aweful lot and thus far hasent been disproven for by any specific case. There remain cases that are unexplored (perhaps including your wildebeast example) but none have succesfully disproven evolution. we woul know about them if they did

  • Well Im not an expert on all the possible variations of gentic muutation, That the only reason I used the phrase 'lets say'. And the term 'fittest' simply refers to those traits that most suit the environment. Not neccesarily strength and courage and all those other noble things commonly associated with the word. Infact it is very often the case that cowardice is an ideal trait for a creature to survive and pass on its genes.

  • Scientists dont take creationists seriously because unlike evolution it doesnt provide the opportunity to be disproven. Everything can simply be answered with 'because god made it that way'. A theory which doesnt provide any means of verification is not worth persuing. To reiterate, if there were even only one case which showed evolution doesnt work we definately wouldve heard about it. A while ago it was the design of the eyeball but scientists then showed how an eyeball could be evolved.

  • Lets say there is a genetic mutation that means a wildebeast is likely to want to 'team up'. Its only gonna work to the benefit of this genetic trait if there are numerous other wildebeast with exactly the same mutation who would also want to participate. The chances of this happening simultaneously in a single herd on a large enough scale is tiny.

  • Well the headlights one is easy. Cars have not been around long enough and do not kill enough 'slow' deer for the evolutionary process to have kicked in in any noticable way. Same with the dolphin thing. The wildebeast thing is because evolution is about survival of individuals. The wildebeast who are more likley to team up and defend are also more likely to be killed and thus the 'bravery' trait doesnt get passed on. Its the cowardly wildebeast who are more likely to survive and reproduce.

  • In SCIENCE, facts are least important because they are pieces of data that can be falsified. in SCIENCE , the word "fact" and "theory" mean completely different things that what "lay people " think.

    keep letting your religion talk you out of actually learning something. see where that gets you......

    keep resisting the most brilliant people on the planet like you know more than them and then having the nerve to call them 'elitist"? the ultimate hypocracy.

  • Yeah, I kinda noticed that over the last 50 years.  That's why I used the phrase 'official church'.

  • Well, I watched this video again, and can really appreciate it. A lot of the comments on this page are pretty intelligent, too. I'd forgotten a science and religion course I took in junior college that was great and memorable. It was official church doctrine that the sun revolved around the earth.  The Inquisition tried Galileo, and put him under house arrest near the end of his life because of his heliocentric theory (which we all recognize now as accurate, whether religious or not).

  • Evolution IS a theory. It's not JUST A THEORY, but it is a theory.

  • true. the definition of scientific theory is what most people dont get. the difference between scientific theories and theories in general. "just a theory" is the catchphrase to spot the ignorant.

  • it's very interesting he says

    "but we very seldom falsify theories"

    Very seldom do scientists falsify theories. Most people would let that comment slip by but that's what I listen very carefully to find. This means scientists do falsify theories. It may be perhaps 1% of the time, so how many lies does that generate? Perhaps that global warming is 100% man made & not 99% natural earth/solar cycles?

  • You cant get away with falsifying anything that passes through peer review which most scientists submit their work to. Some decide instead to publish what they want to with the media and curcumvent peer review. they are usually the ones with an agenda (creationists,anti global warming theorists,9/11 conspire theorists) if you want to check for the truth,check how many of the scientists you believe in submit all their papers to peer review.they should be submitting every one without exceptions.

  • its incredibilly stupid to play against 99% of the odds when trying to decide who to trust especially when it comes to science. it doesnt make you a rebel,or a intellectual outlaw to blow off what 99% percent of the most brilliant people on this planet have proven to be true just because you surmise their might be 1% corruption that you have NO proof of.

  • I think it is fairly easy to to find the corruption or the collaborators for industrial profits through actions but you see, it is not people with no knowledge who go up against the majority, it is fellow scientists who have the education, who have the degrees, they were hired onto the particular board or governmental department due to their knowledge & when they present facts that the majority refuse to look at are fired or their life threatened by their peers. It's viscous & dirty.

  • It is fact that global warming is occurring in some parts of the globe, I have heard this since I was a child in the 70s, by 1990s Florida was supposed to be under water as well as California but with all that melting up to the year 2009 are any of these cities under water? That would sure make a great tourist trap for submarine rides but no cities are under water & they won't be as one scientist was fired for publishing a paper showing the melt off is being redistributed elsewhere

  • Scientific finding show that the planet has heat & cold cycles as the sun changes solar activity. It shows the heat rises first. The rise in heat is the cause of natural carbon dioxide, not the other way around. Not to say artificially pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere has any effects, it does. Everything we do on this planet has effects on weather but to blame global warming 100% on carbon emissions is incorrect to do so

  • U make a point that indicates you doubt corruption could even remotely effect the system we have in place. I am soon making a video to show how entrenched corruption is, it is so smooth and so large of a system that most simply don't see it. Anyone in the middle that wants to keep their career or keep getting that paycheck with bonuses & grants will simply go along with the majority weather it is a lie or not. That is how everything in the world functions, its not about righteousness & holiness

  • some vids to see:

    Give Me a Break: Global Warming

    watch?v=kHCJ-UhZFT4

    Unstoppable Solar Cycles

    watch?v=jF_2bP9n3R0

  • Forbidden Archeology reveals a lot

  • It is not "open minded" to believe any side that has no proof except for the holes in their opponents body of work.if they have none of their own evidence that they have one BIG HOLE and nothing else!

    I am truly amazed how people with NO knowledge of anything at all can go against the most qualified people on our planet and call them corrupt and incorrect with no evidence of their own. its creepy that we have been taught to follow our beliefs over mountains of evidence. thats religions fault.

  • maybe we should take some more pictures of aborted fetus's, put them on signs,and hit unwed mothers over the head with them while screaming 'all life is precious whore!!"

    ......or maybe kill another abortion doc in the middle of church while claiming to be pro-life.

  • I don't think anybody should talk about saving babies unless they have 5 adopted children themselves. it is hypocritical for you to scream about saving babies while hundreds of living ones languish in orphanages their whole lives.

  • do you honestly believe that we think your aversion to fetal stem cell research is based on anything but your opposition to abortion? I respect scientists for having a use for aborted fetus's . before then the only use anyone had for them was exploiting their pictures to put on signs to try to digust people into thinking their way. which was a much more loathsome thing to do to those poor babies....

  • we are monkeys still today. we are still classified as primates. we have so many similarities at the biological level that there is no way to separate us out of it.

  • ur a monkey im not im a human andi cannot be defeated ivan drago forever!

  • Ok buddy, go save some stem cells.

  • I know ignorance is part of the christian doctrine, but taking pride in ignorance is a sin.

    You don't know anything about stem cell research, yet you pretend that you do...bearing false witness. Full of shit, you are.

  • He doesnt need to actually KNOW about anything. The first lesson religion teaches is that evidence,logic,reason and education are not needed . You must BELIEVE and thats all you really need.

    god gives you all the inteligence you need. cast thinks that stem cell research doesnt do anything so god must have put that in his head.

    george w bush ran this country that way for 8 years......

  • And just so you know, science and truth are not based on what "makes sense to you". I imagine there are many, many things that do not make sense to someone like you. Classic argument from ignorance.

  • Exactly! like were supposed to vote on what is true and whats not. Like if evolution was suddenly proven wrong, god and magic would be the next most rational provable theory.its truely an amazinly ignorant argument. if evolution was proven incorrect (which would void the foundation of most all we know in biology,virolgy and medical knowledge,'magic" still has no evidence. we would move to the thing that has the next most amount and so on.....

    considering creation has none, wed never teach it

  • we dont teach "every side" in math. we dont entertain the people that believe 2+2=5, We dont let holocaust deniers in history class,and we dont let certain people pass because they believe stopping at red lights is stupid in drivers ed. We dont vote on facts and evidence. we dont vote on what everyone wants to believe. we vote on what we can prove is correct.

    if there was a group pushing equal time for the satanic theory of creation,would you be so in favor of equal time?

  • I didn't say you have to do anything.

    You claim that evolution is nonsense, so disprove it. You'll be famous.

    We both know that you cannot, but that won't stop you from ranting about it.

  • Creation IS wrong. Creationists such as yourself simply refuse to accept it. If you can disprove evolution you'll win a Nobel Prize, so get to it.

  • "something is always consuming someone.......yours is the ? "

    My "beliefs" are the ones with the 150 years of testing, 4 million pieces of datable fossils. thousands of trasional fossils and is backed by 99% of the most brilliant people ever to walk the planet.

    yours is the belief of the people afraid to die and dont feel like taking any time to educate themselves, instead they just say its magic instead and pray some more.

  • not exactly true. christians are trying to destroy the public perception of science like they succeeded in the dark ages. If fundamentalism succeeds progress will slow down like it has in every religious country throught time.

    Calling scientists conspiratorial liars in one field sullies all science to certain groups. without a heathy respect and trust of science ,we are doomed. science is the only reason we have progressed and when it is repressed and slandered progress slows too.

  • Believing in magical beings in the shy is delusional. You know this because if someone came to you and said that they believed any other magical invisible beings were talking to them you would think of them the way i think of you. there is only one thing separating you from the drunken homeless guy talking to an imaginary friend in an alley. His delusion will end when the alcohol wears off. youre both wasting what little life youve got.

  • everyones imaginary being says to hold no gods before him.

    years ago people knew what the bible meant and hung blacks from trees for walking with white woman,burned woman as witches at the stake, and kept gays from the right to marry. Dont talk about what christians did in the past in the name of the bible and its morality.

    every society eventually learns to make rules for its people.hurting others is bad 4 any societies progress. Humans dont require delusion for us to figure that out.

  • you do not know god even exists. all you have are mans words and mans writings telling u what they say god wants you to do and act. The idea that man is so stupid ,he didnt know what right and wrong was before the bible came along gives man no credit at all.

    If you need to believe that you are being watched and that you will be punished in hell to stop you from raping someone or killing a child then you have problems. but dont act like we all would do it.

  • its pretty terrifying that you agree with forced morality under penalty of death. god decides to kill EVERYONE on the planet and you figure out a way to defend that behavior by saying that EVERYONE on the planet was evil and they ALL had their chance.

    if I put a gun to ur girlfriends head and told her to do whatever I say or i will kill her and Sooner or later she refused me and I killed her, would u say that your girl "had her chance" and defend me so fervently? thats not morialty. its terror

  • youve never read the bible cover to cover did you? youve just been told the good things it says and didn't bother to read about the horrible things it says. Thats what i mean about 'willful ignorance". Chosing to believe the bible is some kind of moral foundation and that it has more in it than it actually does because you have never actually read it. if you did read it, you would understand the passages that i am talking about when god commands us to rape our enemies wives in front of them.

  • we are still classified as primates today. we have thousands of similarities and the only real difference is one chromosome. there is more evidence to prove we are primates than youd be able to handle.thats why its easier to just listen to the religious leaders who have no qualifications yet tell you that there arent millions of pieces of evidence and u just believe it.

    its actually pretty scary to have so much evidence available and have a group just say there is none and its enough 4 u.

  • couldnt have said it better myself. I love that were on the side with millions of transitional fossils and that passes every test given to it and castb4u is on the side thats demands its followers ignore all of it and just believe a bearded old magic man in the sky used magic and poofed it into existance and he says we are the ones riding the "ignorant train".

    calling us "book learners" kinda says alot about the life hes living and what hes been taught about intelligence and education too.

  • the context of events? LMAO!! so when god commands us to rape our enemies, we took that out of context! and when god commands us to kill our disobedient children by stoning , we r taking it out of context! and when god tells us how much we should sell our daughters into slavery for or marry our rape victim, we are just taking it out of context.

    and when jesus tells us that anything god commands us to do is binding forever or to not personally interpret the bible for ourselves he out of context

  • Macro evolution, It's why there is a distinction between plants and animals. I'm done here, why bother rationalizing with someone whose trying to thrash talk me in the entire argument. Have i once made a harsh comment to you? Thrash talking is actually one of the many signs that someone is losing an argument just so ya know in future debates :|, it also does not help to make people learn It makes the overall conversation stupid. It in no ways helps to make anyone win arguments.

  • evolution never said anything about species evolving into other species. thats a lie made up by creationists to make evolution sound absurd. so throw out a few phrases that sound absurd then laugh at it like its real & the ignorant will buy into it.

    somewhere down the line,someone convinced you that the most brilliant people on our planet are drooling sheeple & its noble and holy to just believe whatever u r told to without thinking by leaders who have been caught deceiving in the name of god

  • "...no factual realistic connection between apes and man"

    that is a blindingly ignorant statement that can be refuted by a hundred different tests. im amazed that u honestly would say something so incorrect and now im begining to think that u are not looking for the the facts as much as you are just making shit up to sound like u know something and i hope that when the young hear u,they realize that you are incorrect and begin to question their leaders motives like u havent bothered to.

  • apes and man have almost the exact same number of chromosomes (apes have one less)with much of the same information. And our dna is a pretty close match. so close that HIV is just a version of SIV (Simeon immune deficiency) that mutated and evolved into hiv. there were cases of hiv found as early as 1930 in the congo but they didnt travel.

    pouchers would slaughter apes and they wouldn't protect their hands from the blood and caught SIV which evolved,mutated, and spread to hookers in africa.

  • every living creature is in transition, humans wont have the pinky toe in another 500 years and there wont be anymore redheads in less than a thousand. we are adapting. there used to be a need for our apendix. now theres not. animals evolve the same way. so do viruses but they do it at an exponential rate . they evolve very quickly and they dont change species morons,they have different characteristics that allow them to survive just like every living thing.

    science evolves too. religion cant

  • God did create the universe because if you think about it, there can be no big bang without God. The Law of Physics states that an object at rest stays at rest unless acted upon by an outside force, therefore an outside force acted upon the alleged ball of matter that blew up causing the big bang. Then again the big bang? is just a theory so its not even proven. That is a another reason to believe in God! Praise be to God forever Amen!

  • who said anything was at rest when the big bang happened and why bother citing the laws of physics when you have magical spirits floating around and bearded men in the sky?you dont see how utterly retarded that is? its like me telling u Einsteins theory of relativity and then right after it, say that Einsteins talking unicorn helped figure it all out. if u get to answer all your questions with "it's magic and get away with it,u should b forced to restrict ur convos to kids age 10 or below.

  • "who said anything was at rest when the big bang happened"

    The laws of physics does :D, My question to you is...How does a lifeless organism start moving without the use of force? And where did the first piece of matter come from? You seem to know the answer @_@. Virus don't evolve, If it were true they'd have legs by now. Their the same old virus with different characteristics to adapt, they'd have to turn into an entirely new organism to deterine evolution (macro evolution).

  • why the fuck would a virus need legs? what ever we can't yet answer YOU CANT ANSWER WITH "ITS MAGIC!" EITHER!

    evolution is tiny changes you can use adaptation if you want but thats still evolutonary change.you think evolution has to make huge leaps instantly but the theory of evolution doesnt say that anywhere. you are being lied to.

  • do you understand that you must prove any of this was magic before anyone can take your argument seriously. do you understand that if god poofed these things into existance there would be MILLIONS of fossils indicating that, not indicating otherwise. there would be none indicating otherwise.

    in any other situation ,the side with the 3 million pieces of evidence wins without an argument. except when it comes to your moral leaders forcing u to fight a battle that makes u all look more delusional

  • Not once in the bible does it ever mention "magic." If by magic you mean creation, then the evidence is quite obvious (it's all around us), design. Your "fossil evidence" never once shows a transitional form of any animal, when in fact there should be millions of them, not once have they ever been found. I won't even start with the illogical fallacies you evolutionists believe in. Give me one transitional fossil never proven to be a hoax or a down right lie.

  • there ARE millions. weve found millions of them. we have millions of them. and if you truely believe that scientists dont have the equipment to tell fakes from the real thing then you are officially the most ignorant person on the planet. The idea that you and people who have never tested fossils KNOW that all 3 million of them are fakes and you believe that the people who are qualified and that actually posses them dont is arrogant and pathetic.

  • we are transitional forms. every living thing that ever was and is on this planet is a transitional form and keeps transitioning. we have transitioned from apes and are still classified in the primate category. you are being lied to. you can choose to believe that the people with all the evidence and intelligence and knowledge are the liars and the stupid ones and your religious leaders who have no problem spouting inaccuracies are telling the truth. ours is testable. yours is the fables

  • "Not once in the bible does it ever mention "magic."

    Ok, then what materials did god use to build man?how did he arrange the materials he used to create earth. which hardware store did he use for the tools? the bible says it was "spoke" into being. thats not magic. why do you speak something into being for me mr logical?

  • yeah right. there can be nothing without magic and wishes and sprits and all that shit.

    god creates up in his images and then sends his own son down to be tortured and killed for a publicity stunt to change something he could have changed without any relative being tortured.

    "Dying for ones sins " is as rediculous ad getting "hit in the face with a shovel for ones mortgage"if your father is god,why do you have to die to change his mind. god is a sick fuck.

  • so let me get this straight. you can quote the law of physics in your argument trying to prove that science is bullshit? you cant use a law like its correct to prove thats theories are incorrect. theories are made up of laws. theories arent guesses.

    and even if you disprove the big bang ,that doesnt automatically prove that a bearded old magic man in the sky did it. in the abscence of explanation,magic still dont answer the question.

    uve got to be fucking with me, you arent this stupid....

  • species dont turn into other species. you are being mislead by the b people you trust to morally guide you.

    they know the truth, peoples belief in god is more important to them. they got caught doing it. its called "the wedge doctrine" and it was circulated by the church, all they have to do is convince you that there is an argument between scientists. they depend on you not looking up anything.u have the internet use it. u can still believe that god put it all here and then it all evolved

  • "it takes every reason to have faith....just like standing on a broken chair ......you will have less faith that it will hold you up."

    Reason would tell me to not stand on a broken chair. logic would tell me to get a ladder or at least a better chair.

    faith would tell me theres an invisible bearded man in the sky that will catch me if I fall because he loves me so much. God requires delusion

  • "outside of some ignorant plaster bones some doop made up in his basement."

    3 million! given out to natural history museums all over the country so brilliant people can study them, they would have been busted the minute the bones went under the first microscope .

    PLASTER!!!!!! LMAO!!!! I think you are confusing scientist with creationist which are taught to delude themselves at an early age because god needs them retarded.

  • but you arent allowed by your magical being in the sky to accept that evidence. your bible teaches you to stay ignorant and reap the rewards after you are dead and cant tell anyone its a scam.

    your whole belief system hinges on making sure the virus of intelligence and education doesnt bring you too far from the lord. theres nothing in the bible that praises education and intelligence but i do believe there is a "blessed are the ignorant" and i must say ,u r blessed with an abundance of that.

  • "Theory is a want without effective fact......."

    what are you talking about?A theory isnt an idea IN SCIENCE. its a large body of testable evidence that christians must stay ignorant of so their god doesnt disappear in a puff of logic and evidence.........

  • "you are the ones with 0% of the evidence and laugh at those who have 95% of it and keep learning."

    We have 100% I'd have you know it takes reason to have faith. You do know that there are only two alternatives to the origin of life. God and evolution, there is no third option. If evolution was untrue, there would have to be a God. Therefore my evidence would lie in everything you see around you (design). My reason for not believing in evolution is Life can't spontaneously pop into existance.

  • your argument is that full grown man and woman "popped" into existance. although we have transitionals that say thats not true.evolution is tiny changes over millions of years. no mammals to dolphins in one step. evolution is a million tiny steps.

    if you believe something cant pop into existance then cration is out faster than evolution.

    it takes NO reason to have faith. it takes belief in a lie you have been told that gets handed down by scared ignorant people you were taught to trust.

  • you have 100% of nothing. there are many alternatives to the origin of life. if someone came along and said magic fairies did it, they could use ALL the evidence that you have and argue your exact same argument. because they would have FAITH in the fairies. you would laugh at them and call them idiots just like we do with you.

    "if evolution was untrue ,it would HAVE to be faires."

    THATS why you fight, you think ur god disappears if evolution is true.he doesnt.its a trick 2 keep u fighting.

  • Your reason for not believing in evolution is because you were taught to believe that God cant exist within it, couldnt have planned it,couldnt have started it. personally, it would be alot more beautiful to believe that god figured out how to make such an incredible complex amazing progression of life than to cling to a belief that will consistently move further and further away from the evidence and tear more rationals from the church..... youve sold god short by making him small

  • Any of you guys know any creationists that are atheists? ever wonder why there are no "scientists" who have no affiliation to the church who subscribe to the creation theory?

    even most scientists who have religious beliefs agree that creationism is completely ridiculous. there is only a handful of people who feel belief in god is more important that telling children the truth and educating them. the church has a history of lying to "protect" its followers from turning from god"

  • just because three mega christians disagree with 99.999% of scientists out there doesnt mean that there is some debate. your church leaders have been told to push something called "the wedge doctrine" which basically says to lie to everyone and say there is decent in the scientific community but the leaders that tell you that crap are not members of that community they are christians that feel they are defying their god by educating their students.

  • THERE IS NOTHING HIGHER THAN A THEORY YOU FUCKIN MORON!!!

    Watch the video!!!

    facts are a dime a dozen and facts can be manipulated. kinda of like u r by your church leaders!

    facts are the bottom of the barrel in science. stop proving you are ignorant by spouting this crap.u are the exact person i am making fun of here!

    EVERY scientist agrees with evolution,it is tested everyday in every hospital in the world.antibiotics prove it. the only people that dont agree r religious nuts like u

  • A theory in science is above a law. that what this video is about. you are being lied to by the people you look to for moral guidance.

    maybe you should watch the video before you blow it of and not listen to any religion that tells you know to educate yourself.

    go to any natural history museum there are thousands of pieces of evidence if you care about educating yourself and not trusting people who need you to be ignorant so u can be closer to god.

    u r the one with no evidence.u got faith.

  • Summary a theory is indeed an IDEA, except that it may contain facts supporting it. However though the theory may contain facts, the theory / hypothesis / idea is yet to be an established fact. Shown by my example earlier....o_o

    You could never change truth. and yes these people in the video are indeed STUPID IDIOTS.

    Stupid - lacking or marked by lack of intellectual acuity.

    Idiot - a person of subnormal intelligence.

    don't believe me? listen at 1:15

    This video is nonsense!!!

  • where "where they say a fact is an observation". I'll bet 100 bucks that you are not an atheist. your religious beliefs demand your ignorance. i understand. just dont spread your ignorance to the ignorant. and if you are religious ,you are most likely surrounded by it.

    good luck dismissing logic for the resat of your life. hopefully you will be rewarded in heaven for your ignorance and deceit.

  • You lost your arguement and now your trying to thrash me?

    Typical ain't it

    You said: "a theory in science is a collection of testable evidence tested and peer reviewed by other brilliant scientist in the same field who want to prove it wrong."

    Nothing here says that a theory is an established fact. Your being very ignorant if you believe that every scientist out there are all fair and not bias. Why is it that Journal's about evolution are never sent to be peer reviewed by creationists?

  • creationists arent automatic scientists and they dont just let any old delusional maniac be involved in scientific peer review.

    im done. you win . you are right. its all magic. you have proven your case.

    magic is a much more logical and verifiable body of evidence.god hid EVERY single piece of evidence to support it. and the merry prankster planted millions of transitional fossils at different levels of the earth to fuck with us.

  • It is not scientists job to check with all the leaders of the different religions and make sure they are ok with what they have found. peer review is review by scientist peers. not the church.

  • you are being incredibly ignorant if you believe that ALL scientists are all in cahoots with each other and not VERY competitive. Your side is the side that draws magical conclusions and then everyone hops on board without questioning it.

    you guys have to believe what you believe or you are defying your god and educating people away from him. you are the ones with 0% of the evidence and laugh at those who have 95% of it and keep learning.

  • Sorry I meant to say creationists scientist, there are not all in cahoots, most are. It is a fact that truth does not change, if it were that "Evolution" was so very factual why are there so many flaws.e.g Mammals to Dolphins, Mammals would quicker die from the coldness by staying long hours in the water than "evolve" into a fish @_@. I could go on to describe the other nonsense that evolution scientists put out there but i'd be making a lecture.

  • There are over 3 million transitional fossils that you need to call "utter nonsence" you can go to any museum of natural history and touch them.

    you are being lied to by those you look to for moral guidance.

    You are confused about evolution and you should be violently angry at those who have no evidence who are manipulating you to be ignorant because they need you on their side.

    creationists are attempting to 'teach the controversy" and people like you buy into it.theres no controversy.

  • a scientific theory is a collection of facts,listen to the ones actually qualified to tell you what a scientific theory stop telling me that "theory is not an established fact.

    and why are you even talking about science and facts? you are fighting on the side of magic and gods and holy ghosts! you act like you actually have any evidence for your case when all you have is wishful thinking and delusion.

    you are the cave man telling the inventor of the wheel that its evil.

  • you have been brought up through your religion to believe things on faith and to not trust evidence. that flys in the face of logic. you can basically make up your own rules and trust only what you need to believe.

    a theory in science is a collection of testable evidence tested and peer reviewed by other brilliant scientist in the same field who want to prove it wrong. so they conduct their own tests. its a system of checks and balances that works incredibly well. the competition benefits all

  • scientists dont vote on which theories to agree with. peer review pits each scientist against one another. checking each others work and retest each others findings.

    evolution is a great example of this. it is tested in every viral lab,medical college, and hospital every time an anti biotic is administered and works.

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  • The title of this video almost made me laugh..almost. I would sum up my thoughts in two sentences to show the difference between a theory and established facts.

    I have a THEORY that dogs are amphibian.

    Hold on wait a second...it's and established facts that dogs are amphibian.

    my facts supporting my theory: dogs can swim naturaly..just thow em in the water, they can eat fish, they can see under water. They can temporarily breathe under water etc lol...Disprove me :| based on my facts

  • You didnt even bother listening to what a theory is in scientific language.

    you have proven you are ignorant and wilfully so.

    A "theory" in science is not an idea.

    and your "facts" are not what science uses to define an amphibian anyway. try not to post everything you think. take a little time to study if you are going to call our most brilliant people "idiots"

  • "you have proven you are ignorant and wilfully so"

    How so? Explain your self @_@

    "You didnt even bother listening to what a theory is in scientific language."

    Yes i have, many times over this silly video @_@

    Amphibian - An animal capable of living both on land and in water. :|

    Theory - A hypothesis that has withstood extensive testing by a variety of methods, and in which a higher degree of certainty MAY be placed.

    Emphasis on MAY.

    Hypothesis - presupposition / guess

  • "MAY" in that example doesnt not mean "If you feel like it "or possibly could be" "may" in your example means "can be done" or "be able to" basically the sentance reads

    ..."to which a higher degree of certainty can be finally placed" read the line before it. because of the previous testing,a higher degree of certainty can now be placed.

    they use proper english and you still cant understand?

    read it again and apologize for being to religiously deluded to read/watch correctly.

  • "MAY" in your example means "can be done"

    StayStupid4Christ, Perhaps you should consider changing ur name...

    The word MAY is like two questions in itself with asks both:

    Can it? or Can it NOT be done?

    It's never one sided...for example

    May I have this dance?

    As for "be able to"

    "May be able to" makes much more sense. "Be able to" cannot stand by itself it's illogical. It's a phrase without meaning.

    "read it again and apologize for being to religiously deluded" LOL!!!! xD

  • ungh facepalm

  • Light? what light are you talking about?

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  • I'm an atheist and I'm not afraid to die you Christians are just something else.....

  • God? Bible? Church?

    Church make up the most stupid catalistic stories like God or Devil...WHY does people believe in that? There is an evolution teory not some guy making a man called Adom from shit and that slut Eve that fuck eachother and make lives... The TRUE evolution is much more beutiful...

  • I think it sucks about your dad and im sorry.

    you made it through the evil because you were strong.couldnt that be a possibility?

    you kind of cut the the legs off me with the molestation statement. I dont want to feel like a jerk for bashing you for a mindset that helps you deal with a tragic event .

    take care.

  • "no accountability right?"

    No. accountability is exactly what im talking about. you dont hold this all knowing all powerful being that loves us and watches over us as long as nothing bad happens to us accountable. On my deathbed, hopefully i will not become delusional. you just figured out a way to delude yourself into not fearing death. even if there is a god, no one can be sure yours is the right one. everything you do might just be pissing off Allah or Zeus.

  • "By the way, the molesting of children is the devils work I mean isn't that obvious?"

    Yes. its obvoius that if there was a god, he would ,at the very least, NOT ALLOW IT IN HIS OWN FUCKING HOUSE!! If god can't protect the children of the devoted and pious in his own house, what chance does anyone have? So i guess god let 100,000 innocent children get molested to test our faith?so he traded a childs innocence for a publicity stunt? god cant be all knowing and have no responsibility too.

  • and what are the facts in your mind?

    you think fact= truth.but they dont always mean that.

    science does not automatically trust something that is said as a fact. a fact is just a piece of data to be tested. laws are a collection of tested and verified facts and theories are a collection of verified and tested laws.

    science doesnt even accept a law. it tests it over and over again. scientists have been trying to prove evolution wrong for 150 years. evolution is tested everyday in medicine

  • see the problem is they are blinded by their faith to see the plain truth that is sitting right in front of them

  • Did she say the least important are the facts, because facts are a dime a dozen? no thanks, Ill stick with the facts and they can keep the theory.

  • Evolution is of course true but we still can not figure out how we came about. Evolution works too slow for us to come from fish.

  • Billions of years,billions of necessary mutations, millions of transitional fossils available for viewing in museums all over the world.

  • I came about because my parents copulated, then my mother gestated and gave birth to me. Their parents did the same things that caused them to "come about." Lather, rinse, repeat, retroactively through time, and you'll get the general idea.

    The evolution of tetrapods from fish is well documented and understood. Similarly, Whales evolved from land animals to fully marine forms in only 10 million years or so. There has been plenty of time on earth for evolution to do these things.

  • "The evolution of tetrapods from fish is well documented and understood. "

    Indeed, it is. My personal favorite transitional form is Acanthostega.

  • Interesting. Although I still find it comical how many people don't believe evolution because, and I quote, "How could we evolve from monkeys? Why arent humans walking out of forests?"... the answer... we didn't evolve from monkeys, we have a common ancestor, most likely the australopithecus. I don't see why a sever adaptation to your environment is so hard to believe, but I guess if the bible were to say that gravity doesn't exist, its god holding you down gravity wouldnt exist either would it?

  • LOL!! Exactly! their whole argument depends on their audience not knowing what the truth is and not wanting to know. why would anyone belong to a group that had to rely on ignorance,guilt and fear of death to stay alive.

  • So, Randypagan, what form of Paganism do you practice and does that coincide with the theory of evolution?

  • "So, Randypagan, what form of Paganism do you practice and does that coincide with the theory of evolution? "

    Since when does our last name denote what our beliefs or occupation is? if that was true, Andy Dick wouldn't be such a damn nice guy.

    Im an atheist. believing in the devil is just as delusional as believing in god. A black sheep is still a sheep.

  • even if evolution is real , which i believe it is, it does not disprove the existence of a creator. please do not equate people who believe in a higher order with mainline christians who believe nothing more than a compilation of stories which have been tampered with and changed dozens of times over the last 1700 years or so.

  • i actually have no issue in you believing in a creator as long as it does not interfere with teaching children direct lies or favoring "faith" or "belief" over intelligence and evidence.

    you can deny evidence for yourself all you want, dont spread the infection to any ignorant people. thats all i ask. and saying evolution is just another religion is plain stupid.

  • evolution is just another religion as far as im concerned

  • sure, a religion that has over 3 million pieces of transitional fossils and mountains of evidence. A religion that the top minds in the world have proven correct for over 150 years.

    you are being lied to by the very people who you turn to for moral guidance. you dont see the irony in that? people who know the truth but dont care because muddying the intellectual waters is more importaint. what god wouldnt have a problem with his top people lying to the ignorant masses to keep them ignorant?

  • you're an idiot. (now prove me right....)

  • The bitch is kinda right,

    but you don't have a "really great theory"

    It doesn't work quite that way.

    A theory is just something that was tested again and again untill the perosn/scientist says "okay with the information we have this is the most probably answer we can prove."

  • how many times must we test something succesfully before we are allowed to believe we are correct? Lately people have been trying to turn the fact that not being open to fairy tales that fail EVERY single scientific test given to them is being closed minded and dogmatic.

    The only way to be sure of something is to test it over and over again. evolution is tested hundreds of times a day in hospitals,viral labs, and science departments. it passes every test.

  • I never said it wasn't proven. I was only saying that her expaination in the first bit was alittle sketchy.

    As you were saying though, Parts of it are proven but you can't say that the intire thing is solid. Look at the evidence. We have apes, the closest thing intellectually to humans. Theory of Evolution says that animals adapt to survive. Well apes have 48 chromosomes, and humans only have 46. So do you suppose in the change they just dropped the other two?

  • Apes have one less than us and it had been proven that that one chromosome is fused with another.we have the same number actually except for the conjoined chromosome. we dont have all the answers. but we have 95%. religion, so far ,has none. Their answer to it all is "It's magic" thats all they offer. and delusionals get really mad when magic isn't good enough. you can shoot down the theory that holds 95% but that doesnt mean the one with 0% holds true. you have to offer something testable.

  • GoogleistheShit

    There was what is called a 'meld', where two fused into one - or rather four fused into two - giving us humans 46.