i love this movie because if you have watched it the movie is so historically accurate and it isn't one of those films that is always making it seem like the men fighting for the South are all evil slave owning demons. the movie is fair for both sides
I've read both the books, I read them in the order they were released though. Should I watch the movies in the same way or in chronological order? The books were both amazing.
truth is just a matter of perspective. the civil war wasnt actually a war to end slavery ending slavery was just it's effect. it was simply just a war to stop the states from separating. even lincoln said if he had to free no slave at all just to keep the states from succeeding he would but they didnt listen so he ha to free the slaves from the south but all slave states that stayed with the union wasnt affected so the civil war wasnt about slaves read your history book
I think a big part of it that people miss is that perhaps the North and South just didn't like each other (and still don't to some extent ) they were just waiting for an excuse . I see photos of Conf soldiers with signs in front of them , holding a huge bowie knife , that say "Roseville Yankee Killers" etc. This is at the start of the war .Something had been brewing for years and tariffs and slaves etc . are just straws on a strained camels back . A second Rev waiting to happen
The reason why this movie got a bad reception was because of the pro-confederate slant but if you read the history books, Yankees tore up everything of military value (Farms, plantations, and even libraries... yes libraries). Confederates fought not for slaves but for their way of life and because they wanted to "see the elephant". If you don't know what that means then hit the books or search it up on google.
The reason why this movie got a bad reception was because of the pro-confederate slant but if you read the history books, Yankees tore up everything of military value (Farms, plantations, and even libraries... yes libraries). Confederates fought not for slaves but for their way of life and because they wanted to "see the elephant". If you don't know what that means then hit the books or search it up on google.
@Crazyaisandude And your right, they will only allow movies/media that portrays the south as racist, retarted southerners with no solidarity when it truth, it was the other way around.
@shtony2717 it is not the other way around. While I'm sure a lot of Southerns were just as intelligent as the North, and the North as racist as the South, it was the North who saw slavery as an abomination.
@Crazyaisandude The reason they went to total war was to end it as quickly as possible. And fighting for "their way of life" meant fighting for slavery.
The South Was Right.Marines Vietnam 1968-18 years old.Member Sons of Confederate Veterans.I fly only the Battle Flag and Marine Corps Flag.Semper Fi Dixie Patrick Fogerty.
This is an amazing film. The reason the critics bashed it was because the filmmakers were realistically portraying Jackson as a religious man. In essence they gave it bad reviews because of religious context of the film, which is just plain stupid.
there was only one because they werent considered a country even other countries didnt recognize them as a independent state. anywar it wasnt even called the civil war back then it wasnt untill the late 19th century that it was called that it was called the war between the states
@kolinmartz the war was called(in america) the Great War but when the 1st world war broke out the name started to die out and soon after (2nd ww) it was simply called the war between the states and civil war.But yes they did call it the war between the states back then but not as much or as often as "The Great War".
@tRicKyTuRok incorrect, the confederacy was never recognized by any nations. it was considerd an area in revolt not a seperate country fighting a war. it was a civil war as the south never won, if they had it would be labeled a war of independence. yet clearly they did not my fellow southerner i presume.
@KonigPreuben True, but you are leaving some essential things out. Some of Europe was willing to recognize it but once Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, Europe refused to recognize a so-called "nation" associated with slavery since they had already abolished it.
@tRicKyTuRok and your totally right. The Southern states seceded from the Union and formed their own central government, their own constitution, their own military, congress, laws, and even treasury and currency. It wasn't a civil war because in a civil war it's when two more more factions fight for control of the same government. That didn't happen. As you said, there were two countries, not one. So it wasn't a civil war. It was one country wanted freedom the other didn't want it to be free.
I thought this movie was excellent! But i think they portrayed the South just leeeeetle bit too nicely.
like what the heck was up with the part when Stonewall Jackson is talking to that one black guy outside some random house along a road, and hes talking about the evils of slavery and how someday hopefully they will rid the world of it etc.
i was just like what the heck he is a freaking CONFEDERATE GENERAL who probably OWNS SLAVES!
@wadoryu2u Jackson was talking to his servant, Jim Lewis, who adored him and grieved pitifully at his death. The movie was not edited well, as "some black guy" really did seem to appear from nowhere. Before the war, Jackson started a black Sunday School at his church, and taught them to read the bible personally. As a teen, he also illegally taught his enslaved black friend how to read and write. Black people who lived within the sphere of his influence considered him a true friend and champion.
@wadoryu2u Many Confederate Generals, including Robert E. Lee and Jackson, released their slaves long before the war or just prior to it. Many Union Generals such as General Grant, the drunk, didn't do so until the ramification of the 13th amendment in 1865, after the war. In Robert E. Lee's journal, he speaks of how him and his staff (being the other generals) think of slavery as a great evil. Learn history please.
@shtony2717 robert lee was one of the greatest generals - not only in military, also in his character - of the whole civil war!!! just wanted to say that :-)
They arent making "Last Full Measure" because God and Generals god bad reception due to all the religious stuff in it. There was alot of religious stuff involved in the Civil War. The writers were just making it accurate. People really suck...
this movie is not only a bad movie in itself, It is also historically inaccurate. This films subscribes to the lost cause myth of the civil war. Instead of explaining what that is, you could look it up. Also a good book concerning the issue is Confederates In the Attic.
lol what????? the war was about economic systems, state/federal rights, human rights, and application of the Constitution, not about religion. I mean many southerners are religious but that's not really what it was about.....
@MrBigEnchilada mainly about how the North wanted to destroy the southern economy. Lincoln revealed his true ambitions as a tyrant when he ordered Sherman to tear up the railway...of course the North had its sites on having the first transcontinental railway system.Banks,Railways,and carpet bagging.Pisses me off that the truth is covered up in public schools.i fuckn hate lincoln now that i know the truth.
@Mathew1985AZ Wow you're ignorant. Slavery was making the southern elites rich, but it was hurting the South in general. It kept jobs from poor white southerners, who had to either become bums or move to the North or West. Lincoln's plan was to ship the freed slaves off to Africa, which would greatly decrease the labor pool, giving jobs previously held by slaves to poor white southerners. The story that the destruction of slavery meant the destruction of the southern economy is fiction.
@KayBeeEee1983 Actually, you are ignorant. The North enacted illegal tariffs upon the southern states (considered acts of war) in the 1831 all the way to 1861.Tariff taxes are ultimately the reason war broke out. If you deny that,you deny the truth. Lincoln was a racist, and he had no problem executing the native americans and stealing their land. Don't you dare go that route of justifying Lincoln,he was an SOB
@Mathew1985AZ The tariffs were constitutional, just like Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus
And the southern plantation slaveholders weren't racist? Well, they were having sex with their slaves, so maybe that means they loved black people. XD
The southern states seceded because the Republicans won the presidential election and they knew that with a Republican Congress and President, it was inevitable that slavery would be banned from the territories, which would hurt the slave traders.
@Mathew1985AZ In fact, it was the South that tried to destroy the Northern economy. During the 1820s, the South was buying many of its goods from foreign countries because it was cheaper than buying from the North. The tariff of 1828 put a tax on imports, so the cheapest option for the South became the Northern goods. This forced the South to pay more for things than they had in the past, thus lowering their profit margins, but the alternative would've been the collapse of the Northern economy.
@civilwarcow your channel says you are a history buff preserving the "true history" of the civil war. If that were true then you would acknowledge that this is a good movie that dictates the southern ideology and what southern soldiers fought for. I am a civil war buff too. I noticed you are in a group about "confederate attrocities". From one civil war buff to another here is a vid about Union War Crimes during the civil war. /watch?v=oy2iDtq3MPs
@Itsmeagain9145 You're not a civil war buff. Not one of the accusations in that terrible "video" is based on fact. It's all hearsay. Sherman's troops burned down a church and said Sherman was more powerful than God? What a joke.
@KayBeeEee1983 you are not the sharpest tool in the shed. Yes Sherman Burned down Churches. Yes his men raped citizens. Yes his men fired cannon shells into crowds of civilians. Yes those Sherman quotes in that vid are accurate.
@killerrj8 Did I say it was wrong? Try reading my posts again. I said it was hearsay and wasn't based in fact. There's no evidence of any rapes or civilian murders, and some of the things that were purported (like saying that Sherman's men said Sherman was more powerful than God) are just ridiculous, which discredits the rest of the video. Besides, we're supposed to believe the word of a bunch of slavery-supporting Confederates who are pissed that Sherman destroyed their town? Uh. No.
@killerrj8 When someone accuses another person of a crime, there needs to be more evidence than someone saying "Yes his men fired cannon shells into crowds of civilians." I could refute that with "No they didn't."
Stephen Lang was nauseating in Gettysburg- and here he is as Stonewall.... He is a lot better actually and it seems that Pickett was the tosser, not him:)
Having said that, damn this rebel revisionist romanticism. They were petulant boys and secessions was the voice of their petulant adolescence.
@ kyros. Abraham Lincoln is the greatest ever U S president you fucking moron. I hope you all your family get lung cancer because of you being a fucking twat. P.s get off the channel you fucking wet nigga.
Southerners as a whole were kinder and more compassionate towards the black race. Slavery was inbedded into their economic system since the founding of their colonies. Unlike Northerners like LIncoln who wanted blacks to be free and sent back to Africa or confined to the South, sympathetic, liberal Southerners understood that freedom without opportunity is not truly freedom. When slavery abruptly ended, most former slaves had nowhere to live, eat, and sustain themselves and their families.
@Sistarovat by all means they could've also set the slaves free and have them work as indentured servants receiving pay like any worker should instead of owning them as property. freeing them would not diminish their will to work and sustain their families for as hard working people they understand what needs to be done to provide for their families. There are a strong people who survived years of slavery which was definitely cruel and unusual in some areas of the south.
@Sistarovat by making the first move to set them free that is surely better than holding on to them just for the mere perception that one is doing them a favor because they wouldn't be able to sustain themselves without a master. Freedom from subservience to any other man or being brings opportunity and the possibility to achieve the impossible.
@runescapenoob48, Ted Turner should really get off his keister and complete the saga, if indeed he's so passionate about it. Never mind the "Bad box office" results of "Gods And Generals."
@orchote: My problem with Gods and Generals was the servere over acting, especially on Stephen Lang's part. He was great as Gen. George E. Pickett in Gettysburg, but he sucked as Stonewall Jackson. There was also the fact that neither Martin Sheen or Tom Berenger reprised their roles. But you're right, it did seriously lack the captivation and amazement that Gettysburg had.
@UltraPoseidon It only got bad reception because to the critics, It was correct historically but politically it wasn't.. Great movie though in my opinion - Although I love history
Let it be known that the Confederacy was not wrong for what they did and the Civil War was not fought over slavery. Slavery was beginning to die out when the war began and the average Confederate infantry was a poor white uneducated farmer who never was able to own a slave.
@Proudnewfoundlander1 And I find it funny that you used the phrase "you Americans". Yes, I'm sure that all of us Americans love the idea of starting a war that happened 100 years ago.
@Proudnewfoundlander1 and I find it funny that you canadians are to scared to even help us "Americans" fight the war we're in oh and I take it offensive that you think it's funny to try and stop slavery usa
very good movie, with gettysburg 2 masterpieces, i like the way they showed the battles, very realistic ,battlefields were slaughterhouses.i m french but i m interested in confederate army , because one of its general was a true french:major general prince of polignac who fought very well and of course LEE was a kind of master of strategy as napoleon (whom he studied the battles).armies of south & napoleonic armies had a common point:they had to fight vs much more numerous armies all the time
Before anybody else puts Jefferson Davis on a pedestal, remember that he wanted the same powers that Lincoln was using, only the states rights issue got too much in the way for him to use them. Yes, Lincoln was a tyrant, but Davis was a wannabe tyrant. And that was (largely) the difference in who won.
@GearsofMaverick Actually, it was because of tariff, Lincoln acting as a tyrant and dictator abusing the Constitution and invading the South. Slavery was still happening in the North where it started in Masachusetts. Go do your homework.
@Proudnewfoundlander1 I know! That WAS the thing that made America so special. In order for the new government to not become another England, any state had the right to succeed. That part of the constitution didn't stand the test of time, however. :(
President Davis of the Confederacy tried to negotiate with Lincoln about Fort Sumter, but instead Lincoln sent troops to occupy it.
Fort Sumter was in South Carolina, which was a member of the Confederacy at that point. It's true that the Southern fleet fired on the Fort, but they had given the Union troops plenty of chances to evacuate.
Regardless of who was wrong in that engagement, it was the Union who decided to launch a full-scale invasion afterwords.
@GrievousCommander yea cuse sumter was U.S property the union had the right to be there and plus the south started the war by breaking away from there government ..when jackson was in office the south wanted to succeed jackson replyed by saying if u do ill come down there and hang everyone from the highist tree.
@GrievousCommander Great post. Many people do not realize that Lincoln had wrote a letter to the Governor of South Carolina, Pickens. Lincoln wrote that he would pull the soldiers from the fort and abandon the fort. That was the understanding both sides had, but a month later, Lincoln changed his mind and now wanted to bring "Provisions" to the fort. So "Honest" Abe, was not so "Honest". The war could have easily been avoided if Lincoln sat down for peace talks.
@lopido Seven hours? You certainly didn't see this movie then. However, pick up the Extended Director's Cut in May. It'll definitely change your mind.
@lopido That's a shame. At least give the Extended Director's Cut a shot in May. I think you might change your mind. Especially when they show the Battle of Antietam.
@Proudnewfoundlander1 i find it funny that america fought to succeed from union with the british, but still force themselves into the Commonwealth Games
@gakomor oh yeah cuz the US military would soooo follow u guys for wat fucking reason?? a grudge over something that happened a hundred years ago because the south was retarded and remains so today? Sherman shouldve killed all you fucks. oh and btw southerners give the US a bad name, ur the reason the world sees us as fat lazy dumasses that would rather eat a cheeseburger than play a sport you people dont deserve to be americans or be any nationality u dont even deserve to live
True that the military won't care about the past but it is a stereotype that the south is fat and unathletic. The SEC has some of the best college football players in the country. And no one deserves to be Americans, unless you are a real "Native American".
Do you realize that Texas is the #1 exporter of goods in the U.S.
Texas also is the #1 producer of cotton and beef, and we have large oil and natural gas reserves. Texas is also the leader in alternative power sources in the U.S.
Texas' economy is second only to California. However, Texas has a 5-star debt rating from Forbes, whereas California has a 1-star debt rating, (the shittiest). Also, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio, Mass., and Conn. have a 1-star debt.
This movie makes war seem fun to young people. I wonder if this movie has had at all the same effect on how young people see war as the John Wayne movies did. Young boys who grew up cheering John Wayne got irreparably damaged, both mentally and physically, in Vietnam. Have you all encouraged our present-day young people to fight foreign wars, welcomed them home, to forget them now that it's not cool to honor them? What about in 20, 30 years, when the legless man is alone in a vet's hospital?
Being a Russian I have not been exposed to current American high school indoctrination, I mean education.
If you honestly think that white Christian Northerners would volunterre to kill fellow White Christians to protect negro's, a people which for a century after would still not be recognized as standard citizens, than you're an idiot.
The only motivation for such a conflict regarding slavery was perhaps economics, not a noble fight to defend the rights of blacks, to think such is folly.
@ForImperium While I too stand in judgment on such noble intentions of white Americans during the antebellum period, I'm only drawing on the fact that most careful authorities are aware that economic, socio-political, cultural, and even moral ramifications are at the center of the debate about the civil war. But you go right ahead on and solve the problem, basing it on economics as the "only motiviation." Besides, Russians have the "catbird seat" when it comes to avoiding indoctrination.
Memo to Nick Saban and Alabama: Watch this movie and man up. Stonewall Jackson did not hide form the Yankees at Bull Run, now did he? Schedule Boise State, or be forever labeled as true cowards.
America split with the British Emp. because it wanted direct representation, not representation through parliament, where each member of parliament voted on behalf of all citizens of the Emp. The split was also contributed to by the many years of salutory neglect the colonies experienced from the British Emp. On the other hand, the Confederate states had a large number in Congress and were involved in the legislative process. So no.
It's not so much slave rights as it is slavery, but not from the standpoint taught in schools - they make it seem a moral conflict, with the question being whether or not slavery is right - when in reality, it is truly the economic implications of the abolishing of slavery the South and North conflicted over - after all, the North dominated Congress and had a Republican president - controlling 2/3 of the government's branches.
@Proudnewfoundlander1 i also find it funny how a country who stole its right to exist, and was founded on genocide and made powerful by slavery, somehow has the right to tell other countrys whats right and wrong, and be the worlds police
who was the kinda hot guy who was always with stonewall jackson in the movie? he didn't have a beard or anything..... and he was hot. he was the one that didn't want the deserters from the stonewall brigade to be shot??
@Proudnewfoundlander1 And how they were against imperialism however gained the additional 37 states of America in much the same way an imperial nation would.
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One side fought for slavery. The other side fought to send all the black people back to Africa.
Muffinfordinner 3 weeks ago
This is one of the best movies of all time! I think every American should watch it.
lesmiseponine 4 weeks ago
yep one side fought for God, the other for the jews(devil)(north)
germaniajim6 1 month ago
i love this movie because if you have watched it the movie is so historically accurate and it isn't one of those films that is always making it seem like the men fighting for the South are all evil slave owning demons. the movie is fair for both sides
TheFlamingbrownie 1 month ago
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tRicKyTuRok 1 month ago
its too bad movies like "the alamo" remake, and gettysburg never did well. It would be nice to see some modern day civil war movies
hellfire6028 1 month ago
I've read both the books, I read them in the order they were released though. Should I watch the movies in the same way or in chronological order? The books were both amazing.
btbrotherton 2 months ago
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tRicKyTuRok 3 months ago
truth is just a matter of perspective. the civil war wasnt actually a war to end slavery ending slavery was just it's effect. it was simply just a war to stop the states from separating. even lincoln said if he had to free no slave at all just to keep the states from succeeding he would but they didnt listen so he ha to free the slaves from the south but all slave states that stayed with the union wasnt affected so the civil war wasnt about slaves read your history book
kolinmartz 3 months ago
suuuch drivel
CrimsonEmpire 3 months ago
I don't recall Chamberlain ever saying "20th Maine!! Forward!!!"
The2004Alamo 3 months ago
they filmed this where i live. i remeber all the actors it was awesome
WildGaston 4 months ago
It's a shame there were no Beauregard in this movie
salihadjic 4 months ago
@salihadjic
If I recall correctly, General Beauregard was mentioned during the first Battle of Manassas.
chefsessel81 4 months ago
@chefsessel81
i was trying to find him in the credits on imdb, and no luck
Are you sure there was PGT Beauregard? What actor played him?
salihadjic 4 months ago
@salihadjic did this movie show the battle of fort summter
PERTORAMA 2 months ago
I think a big part of it that people miss is that perhaps the North and South just didn't like each other (and still don't to some extent ) they were just waiting for an excuse . I see photos of Conf soldiers with signs in front of them , holding a huge bowie knife , that say "Roseville Yankee Killers" etc. This is at the start of the war .Something had been brewing for years and tariffs and slaves etc . are just straws on a strained camels back . A second Rev waiting to happen
mollymu1 5 months ago
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The reason why this movie got a bad reception was because of the pro-confederate slant but if you read the history books, Yankees tore up everything of military value (Farms, plantations, and even libraries... yes libraries). Confederates fought not for slaves but for their way of life and because they wanted to "see the elephant". If you don't know what that means then hit the books or search it up on google.
Crazyaisandude 5 months ago
The reason why this movie got a bad reception was because of the pro-confederate slant but if you read the history books, Yankees tore up everything of military value (Farms, plantations, and even libraries... yes libraries). Confederates fought not for slaves but for their way of life and because they wanted to "see the elephant". If you don't know what that means then hit the books or search it up on google.
Crazyaisandude 5 months ago
@Crazyaisandude
the bad rececption refers from the fact, that it is sappy.
Holowachuk 5 months ago
@Crazyaisandude And your right, they will only allow movies/media that portrays the south as racist, retarted southerners with no solidarity when it truth, it was the other way around.
shtony2717 5 months ago
@shtony2717 it is not the other way around. While I'm sure a lot of Southerns were just as intelligent as the North, and the North as racist as the South, it was the North who saw slavery as an abomination.
louielouie11224 5 months ago
@Crazyaisandude The reason they went to total war was to end it as quickly as possible. And fighting for "their way of life" meant fighting for slavery.
louielouie11224 5 months ago
@louielouie11224 True, however one third of all men in the south owned slaves. Even fewer were prosperous.
Crazyaisandude 5 months ago
at the end of the movie i was standing in front of the tv with tears in my eyes, saluting and whispering: "god bless america..."
nah... just kidding.
as a german i have to say that this movie once again proofed that many americans seem to like tawdry movies.
Holowachuk 5 months ago
The South Was Right.Marines Vietnam 1968-18 years old.Member Sons of Confederate Veterans.I fly only the Battle Flag and Marine Corps Flag.Semper Fi Dixie Patrick Fogerty.
pokysamgg 5 months ago
Actualy u dont the north won but it also lost 3x the men
mississippiboy1998 6 months ago
Hmmm pretty sure I know which side God was on....
Singabus66 7 months ago
This is an amazing film. The reason the critics bashed it was because the filmmakers were realistically portraying Jackson as a religious man. In essence they gave it bad reviews because of religious context of the film, which is just plain stupid.
Misri83 7 months ago
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tRicKyTuRok 7 months ago 7
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there was only one because they werent considered a country even other countries didnt recognize them as a independent state. anywar it wasnt even called the civil war back then it wasnt untill the late 19th century that it was called that it was called the war between the states
kolinmartz 3 months ago
@kolinmartz the war was called(in america) the Great War but when the 1st world war broke out the name started to die out and soon after (2nd ww) it was simply called the war between the states and civil war.But yes they did call it the war between the states back then but not as much or as often as "The Great War".
TheAmerican102 2 months ago
@tRicKyTuRok incorrect, the confederacy was never recognized by any nations. it was considerd an area in revolt not a seperate country fighting a war. it was a civil war as the south never won, if they had it would be labeled a war of independence. yet clearly they did not my fellow southerner i presume.
KonigPreuben 2 months ago
@KonigPreuben True, but you are leaving some essential things out. Some of Europe was willing to recognize it but once Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, Europe refused to recognize a so-called "nation" associated with slavery since they had already abolished it.
GProduct 2 months ago
@tRicKyTuRok and your totally right. The Southern states seceded from the Union and formed their own central government, their own constitution, their own military, congress, laws, and even treasury and currency. It wasn't a civil war because in a civil war it's when two more more factions fight for control of the same government. That didn't happen. As you said, there were two countries, not one. So it wasn't a civil war. It was one country wanted freedom the other didn't want it to be free.
shtony2717 2 months ago
@shtony2717 a civil war is a war between people of the same country. Wanting control of the government has nothing to do with it.
TigerRifle1 1 month ago
@tRicKyTuRok watch it first then judge the movie
RedSamKiller 2 months ago
I thought this movie was excellent! But i think they portrayed the South just leeeeetle bit too nicely.
like what the heck was up with the part when Stonewall Jackson is talking to that one black guy outside some random house along a road, and hes talking about the evils of slavery and how someday hopefully they will rid the world of it etc.
i was just like what the heck he is a freaking CONFEDERATE GENERAL who probably OWNS SLAVES!
wadoryu2u 7 months ago
@wadoryu2u Jackson was talking to his servant, Jim Lewis, who adored him and grieved pitifully at his death. The movie was not edited well, as "some black guy" really did seem to appear from nowhere. Before the war, Jackson started a black Sunday School at his church, and taught them to read the bible personally. As a teen, he also illegally taught his enslaved black friend how to read and write. Black people who lived within the sphere of his influence considered him a true friend and champion.
stellalouise1 7 months ago 3
@wadoryu2u Many Confederate Generals, including Robert E. Lee and Jackson, released their slaves long before the war or just prior to it. Many Union Generals such as General Grant, the drunk, didn't do so until the ramification of the 13th amendment in 1865, after the war. In Robert E. Lee's journal, he speaks of how him and his staff (being the other generals) think of slavery as a great evil. Learn history please.
shtony2717 5 months ago
@shtony2717 robert lee was one of the greatest generals - not only in military, also in his character - of the whole civil war!!! just wanted to say that :-)
tschiefnrone 2 months ago
when this movie was released in theatres, one theater showed an intermission between the two parts. Was this true?
kascnef82 7 months ago
This world would be a hell of a lot better without critics. This movie was rele good. FUCK U CRITICS!!!!!!!!!!!
The2004Alamo 7 months ago
They arent making "Last Full Measure" because God and Generals god bad reception due to all the religious stuff in it. There was alot of religious stuff involved in the Civil War. The writers were just making it accurate. People really suck...
Kotor1Rulezz 8 months ago 15
@Kotor1Rulezz and they arent making it because of lack of funds
crashcampbell85 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
awesome movie!!! still luv it
brut25 8 months ago
this trailer is so freaking good, i was excited to see it, and it turned out to SUCK. acting was the worst ive seen, except for the Room.
xxTheGhilliedGhostxx 8 months ago
this movie is not only a bad movie in itself, It is also historically inaccurate. This films subscribes to the lost cause myth of the civil war. Instead of explaining what that is, you could look it up. Also a good book concerning the issue is Confederates In the Attic.
joemarch17 8 months ago
Which side fought for God's glory, and which side fought for his kingdom on earth?
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
lol what????? the war was about economic systems, state/federal rights, human rights, and application of the Constitution, not about religion. I mean many southerners are religious but that's not really what it was about.....
MrBigEnchilada 8 months ago
@MrBigEnchilada mainly about how the North wanted to destroy the southern economy. Lincoln revealed his true ambitions as a tyrant when he ordered Sherman to tear up the railway...of course the North had its sites on having the first transcontinental railway system.Banks,Railways,and carpet bagging.Pisses me off that the truth is covered up in public schools.i fuckn hate lincoln now that i know the truth.
Mathew1985AZ 8 months ago
@Mathew1985AZ Wow you're ignorant. Slavery was making the southern elites rich, but it was hurting the South in general. It kept jobs from poor white southerners, who had to either become bums or move to the North or West. Lincoln's plan was to ship the freed slaves off to Africa, which would greatly decrease the labor pool, giving jobs previously held by slaves to poor white southerners. The story that the destruction of slavery meant the destruction of the southern economy is fiction.
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
@KayBeeEee1983 Actually, you are ignorant. The North enacted illegal tariffs upon the southern states (considered acts of war) in the 1831 all the way to 1861.Tariff taxes are ultimately the reason war broke out. If you deny that,you deny the truth. Lincoln was a racist, and he had no problem executing the native americans and stealing their land. Don't you dare go that route of justifying Lincoln,he was an SOB
Mathew1985AZ 8 months ago
@Mathew1985AZ The tariffs were constitutional, just like Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus
And the southern plantation slaveholders weren't racist? Well, they were having sex with their slaves, so maybe that means they loved black people. XD
The southern states seceded because the Republicans won the presidential election and they knew that with a Republican Congress and President, it was inevitable that slavery would be banned from the territories, which would hurt the slave traders.
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
@KayBeeEee1983 Thank God! Someone else on Youtube know's what they're talking about!
DarthMercanto 8 months ago
@DarthMercanto Sarcasm?
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
@KayBeeEee1983 Not sarcasm. I absolutley agree with you.
DarthMercanto 8 months ago
@Mathew1985AZ In fact, it was the South that tried to destroy the Northern economy. During the 1820s, the South was buying many of its goods from foreign countries because it was cheaper than buying from the North. The tariff of 1828 put a tax on imports, so the cheapest option for the South became the Northern goods. This forced the South to pay more for things than they had in the past, thus lowering their profit margins, but the alternative would've been the collapse of the Northern economy.
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
@civilwarcow your channel says you are a history buff preserving the "true history" of the civil war. If that were true then you would acknowledge that this is a good movie that dictates the southern ideology and what southern soldiers fought for. I am a civil war buff too. I noticed you are in a group about "confederate attrocities". From one civil war buff to another here is a vid about Union War Crimes during the civil war. /watch?v=oy2iDtq3MPs
Itsmeagain9145 8 months ago
@Itsmeagain9145 You're not a civil war buff. Not one of the accusations in that terrible "video" is based on fact. It's all hearsay. Sherman's troops burned down a church and said Sherman was more powerful than God? What a joke.
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
@KayBeeEee1983 you are not the sharpest tool in the shed. Yes Sherman Burned down Churches. Yes his men raped citizens. Yes his men fired cannon shells into crowds of civilians. Yes those Sherman quotes in that vid are accurate.
Itsmeagain9145 8 months ago
@Itsmeagain9145 Oh, well, since you said so it must be true...idiot.
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
@KayBeeEee1983 yes but because u say it is wrong it is wrong ?... idiot
killerrj8 8 months ago
@killerrj8 Did I say it was wrong? Try reading my posts again. I said it was hearsay and wasn't based in fact. There's no evidence of any rapes or civilian murders, and some of the things that were purported (like saying that Sherman's men said Sherman was more powerful than God) are just ridiculous, which discredits the rest of the video. Besides, we're supposed to believe the word of a bunch of slavery-supporting Confederates who are pissed that Sherman destroyed their town? Uh. No.
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
@KayBeeEee1983 but lol u did say that it wasnt true that makes you say that it is wrong
killerrj8 8 months ago
@killerrj8 Where did I say anything wasn't true?
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
@KayBeeEee1983 you said s"Oh, well, since you said so it must be true... idiot."
killerrj8 8 months ago
@killerrj8 When someone accuses another person of a crime, there needs to be more evidence than someone saying "Yes his men fired cannon shells into crowds of civilians." I could refute that with "No they didn't."
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
I Love steven Lang, great movie, that and gettysburg are sooo good
ak47110 9 months ago
this movie is kitschy... absolutely.
Holowachuk 9 months ago
7 confederates didn't like this movie
brent1478 9 months ago
The war had NOTHING to do with any deity. Jesus, what bullshit.
It was as pointless as all other conflicts.
jgg017 9 months ago
@jgg017 It was a war to make sure that the Union was held in tact. Brohter against brother
JohnAnderssonTV 9 months ago
@jgg017 Conflicts are never pointless, they are very clearly pointed. I believe you meant to say 'War is pointless'.
Slipknot808 9 months ago
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definetley one of my all time favorite movies.
argonaut200 9 months ago
This movie truly depicts the cause and heroism of our great Southern states' patriots.
Sistarovat 9 months ago
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People need a history lesson Civil War was not fought over slavery only
imaStonesFan 10 months ago
Stephen Lang was nauseating in Gettysburg- and here he is as Stonewall.... He is a lot better actually and it seems that Pickett was the tosser, not him:)
Having said that, damn this rebel revisionist romanticism. They were petulant boys and secessions was the voice of their petulant adolescence.
exxcalibur1973 10 months ago
@ kyros. Abraham Lincoln is the greatest ever U S president you fucking moron. I hope you all your family get lung cancer because of you being a fucking twat. P.s get off the channel you fucking wet nigga.
WardysVIDSrWANK 10 months ago
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imaStonesFan 10 months ago
@sistatovat you sir are a fucking idiot. Stop talking bollocks and get your dads cock out of your mouth you fat fucking slob.
WardysVIDSrWANK 10 months ago
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imaStonesFan 10 months ago
Southerners as a whole were kinder and more compassionate towards the black race. Slavery was inbedded into their economic system since the founding of their colonies. Unlike Northerners like LIncoln who wanted blacks to be free and sent back to Africa or confined to the South, sympathetic, liberal Southerners understood that freedom without opportunity is not truly freedom. When slavery abruptly ended, most former slaves had nowhere to live, eat, and sustain themselves and their families.
Sistarovat 10 months ago 2
@Sistarovat by all means they could've also set the slaves free and have them work as indentured servants receiving pay like any worker should instead of owning them as property. freeing them would not diminish their will to work and sustain their families for as hard working people they understand what needs to be done to provide for their families. There are a strong people who survived years of slavery which was definitely cruel and unusual in some areas of the south.
voodoopriest100 10 months ago
@Sistarovat by making the first move to set them free that is surely better than holding on to them just for the mere perception that one is doing them a favor because they wouldn't be able to sustain themselves without a master. Freedom from subservience to any other man or being brings opportunity and the possibility to achieve the impossible.
voodoopriest100 10 months ago
@Sistarovat
Then Explain why the kkk is still alive?
AragonKingofmacedon 10 months ago
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imaStonesFan 10 months ago
The narration for this trailer is different on my DVD. Is this version from a different region or perhaps blu-ray?
jrs689 10 months ago
FLY THE STARS AND BARS NOW!
ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 10 months ago
man i wish they would make the final measure
runescapenoob48 10 months ago 25
@runescapenoob48, Ted Turner should really get off his keister and complete the saga, if indeed he's so passionate about it. Never mind the "Bad box office" results of "Gods And Generals."
BibleJoker2Face 10 months ago
@runescapenoob48 if only to redeem the series from this lousy, bloated installment. this was a disgrace to "Gettysburg"
orchote 6 months ago
@orchote: My problem with Gods and Generals was the servere over acting, especially on Stephen Lang's part. He was great as Gen. George E. Pickett in Gettysburg, but he sucked as Stonewall Jackson. There was also the fact that neither Martin Sheen or Tom Berenger reprised their roles. But you're right, it did seriously lack the captivation and amazement that Gettysburg had.
hectorbolshevik 6 months ago
@hectorbolshevik It felt like to me they were almost trying to make Jackson a Christ figure in this film, and it just felt like way too much.
orchote 6 months ago
@runescapenoob48 So do I. Desperately. The trilogy must be completed!
tpajason 5 months ago
It's too bad the movie got bad reception, I thought it was pretty good
UltraPoseidon 11 months ago 34
@UltraPoseidon Same here.
SesameCake 11 months ago
@UltraPoseidon, I agree. I think Gods And Generals & Gettysburg are excellent movies and made with precise attention to historical accuracy.
BibleJoker2Face 10 months ago
@UltraPoseidon It only got bad reception because to the critics, It was correct historically but politically it wasn't.. Great movie though in my opinion - Although I love history
FYVSTARZ 7 months ago 2
Let it be known that the Confederacy was not wrong for what they did and the Civil War was not fought over slavery. Slavery was beginning to die out when the war began and the average Confederate infantry was a poor white uneducated farmer who never was able to own a slave.
wodkins 11 months ago 3
@wodkins what the soldiers fought for is why the war lasted as long as it did, and why it was as bloody as it was. Its not what caused the war.
TigerRifle1 10 months ago
@TigerRifle1 You are so right
wodkins 10 months ago
i truly believe that God would not want his glory or kingdom to be anything like that of the Confederacy but I guess I could be wrong
kcjk1991 11 months ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 And I find it funny that you used the phrase "you Americans". Yes, I'm sure that all of us Americans love the idea of starting a war that happened 100 years ago.
reflectorr88 11 months ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 Shows how kick ass America is compared to other countries. :P
dhutchinson86 11 months ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 and I find it funny that you canadians are to scared to even help us "Americans" fight the war we're in oh and I take it offensive that you think it's funny to try and stop slavery usa
TheScaryMovieGuy09 11 months ago
very good movie, with gettysburg 2 masterpieces, i like the way they showed the battles, very realistic ,battlefields were slaughterhouses.i m french but i m interested in confederate army , because one of its general was a true french:major general prince of polignac who fought very well and of course LEE was a kind of master of strategy as napoleon (whom he studied the battles).armies of south & napoleonic armies had a common point:they had to fight vs much more numerous armies all the time
austerlitz1805fr 11 months ago
Before anybody else puts Jefferson Davis on a pedestal, remember that he wanted the same powers that Lincoln was using, only the states rights issue got too much in the way for him to use them. Yes, Lincoln was a tyrant, but Davis was a wannabe tyrant. And that was (largely) the difference in who won.
TheLewellin 11 months ago
I am so sick of hearing god this and god that in every fucking war movie...
anteracmacash 11 months ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 It was because of slavery.
GearsofMaverick 11 months ago
@GearsofMaverick Actually, it was because of tariff, Lincoln acting as a tyrant and dictator abusing the Constitution and invading the South. Slavery was still happening in the North where it started in Masachusetts. Go do your homework.
Kyros 11 months ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 I know! That WAS the thing that made America so special. In order for the new government to not become another England, any state had the right to succeed. That part of the constitution didn't stand the test of time, however. :(
SamuelDMorgan 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1
President Davis of the Confederacy tried to negotiate with Lincoln about Fort Sumter, but instead Lincoln sent troops to occupy it.
Fort Sumter was in South Carolina, which was a member of the Confederacy at that point. It's true that the Southern fleet fired on the Fort, but they had given the Union troops plenty of chances to evacuate.
Regardless of who was wrong in that engagement, it was the Union who decided to launch a full-scale invasion afterwords.
GrievousCommander 1 year ago
@GrievousCommander yea cuse sumter was U.S property the union had the right to be there and plus the south started the war by breaking away from there government ..when jackson was in office the south wanted to succeed jackson replyed by saying if u do ill come down there and hang everyone from the highist tree.
lion40520 1 year ago
@GrievousCommander Great post. Many people do not realize that Lincoln had wrote a letter to the Governor of South Carolina, Pickens. Lincoln wrote that he would pull the soldiers from the fort and abandon the fort. That was the understanding both sides had, but a month later, Lincoln changed his mind and now wanted to bring "Provisions" to the fort. So "Honest" Abe, was not so "Honest". The war could have easily been avoided if Lincoln sat down for peace talks.
Again, Great post!
rebel2276 1 year ago
This movie was a disgrace to gettysburg... Gettysburg is a thousand times better then this load of crap. I wish i had the seven hours of my life back
lopido 1 year ago
@lopido Seven hours? You certainly didn't see this movie then. However, pick up the Extended Director's Cut in May. It'll definitely change your mind.
Kyros 11 months ago
@Kyros I know it wasnt 7 hours it just felt like it.. This movie is in my top 10 most horrid war movies...
lopido 11 months ago
@lopido That's a shame. At least give the Extended Director's Cut a shot in May. I think you might change your mind. Especially when they show the Battle of Antietam.
Kyros 11 months ago
@lopido SEVEN hours? It was three and half. That means you watched it twice!!!
jrs689 11 months ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 i find it funny that america fought to succeed from union with the british, but still force themselves into the Commonwealth Games
BrendanStuart 1 year ago
the one side fought for theire FREEDOM... (to have slaves)
the other side fought to surpress the south and FREE the slaves... (and for money :)
cocacolacompany1 1 year ago
i believe that the war is not won and that all the south needs to start a second civil war is someone to lead them to victory.
gakomor 1 year ago
@gakomor oh yeah cuz the US military would soooo follow u guys for wat fucking reason?? a grudge over something that happened a hundred years ago because the south was retarded and remains so today? Sherman shouldve killed all you fucks. oh and btw southerners give the US a bad name, ur the reason the world sees us as fat lazy dumasses that would rather eat a cheeseburger than play a sport you people dont deserve to be americans or be any nationality u dont even deserve to live
minigun20 1 year ago
@minigun20
True that the military won't care about the past but it is a stereotype that the south is fat and unathletic. The SEC has some of the best college football players in the country. And no one deserves to be Americans, unless you are a real "Native American".
worldgrip 1 year ago
@minigun20
Do you realize that Texas is the #1 exporter of goods in the U.S.
Texas also is the #1 producer of cotton and beef, and we have large oil and natural gas reserves. Texas is also the leader in alternative power sources in the U.S.
Texas' economy is second only to California. However, Texas has a 5-star debt rating from Forbes, whereas California has a 1-star debt rating, (the shittiest). Also, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio, Mass., and Conn. have a 1-star debt.
GrievousCommander 1 year ago
@minigun20
In short, Texas is growing, while the Northeast wallows in stagnation, debt, and trade union in-fighting.
The future is looking very bright for us indeed, you little Yankee asswipe!
GrievousCommander 1 year ago
@GrievousCommander Can't believe your country is called United States.
VonTavast 1 year ago
@VonTavast Why not?
akaJughead 1 year ago
This movie makes war seem fun to young people. I wonder if this movie has had at all the same effect on how young people see war as the John Wayne movies did. Young boys who grew up cheering John Wayne got irreparably damaged, both mentally and physically, in Vietnam. Have you all encouraged our present-day young people to fight foreign wars, welcomed them home, to forget them now that it's not cool to honor them? What about in 20, 30 years, when the legless man is alone in a vet's hospital?
parafleet 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 i find it funny how much better America is than any other nation. God Bless America!!!!!!
whiplashdeth 1 year ago
@whiplashdeth He is from Canada, go figure.
rebel2276 1 year ago
what is that amazing music they used in this fantastic trailer, for a fantastic film? I have neen looking everywhere for it, but have yet to find it.
chopperpilot5 1 year ago
@chopperpilot5 it's from the bone collector
yukiyama87 5 months ago
@yukiyama87 what track??? I still can't find it :(
chopperpilot5 5 months ago
@chopperpilot5 it's called Taxi Ride, from the movie The Bone Collector
yukiyama87 5 months ago
Being a Russian I have not been exposed to current American high school indoctrination, I mean education.
If you honestly think that white Christian Northerners would volunterre to kill fellow White Christians to protect negro's, a people which for a century after would still not be recognized as standard citizens, than you're an idiot.
The only motivation for such a conflict regarding slavery was perhaps economics, not a noble fight to defend the rights of blacks, to think such is folly.
ForImperium 1 year ago
@ForImperium "the only motivation" .....Typical overstatement!
metavoice 1 year ago
"metavoice" Typical politically correct American fool.
ForImperium 1 year ago
@ForImperium While I too stand in judgment on such noble intentions of white Americans during the antebellum period, I'm only drawing on the fact that most careful authorities are aware that economic, socio-political, cultural, and even moral ramifications are at the center of the debate about the civil war. But you go right ahead on and solve the problem, basing it on economics as the "only motiviation." Besides, Russians have the "catbird seat" when it comes to avoiding indoctrination.
metavoice 7 months ago
Touche, good point.
ForImperium 3 months ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 5 people actolly :D (me to if u didin't notice :D)
FieryMastermind 1 year ago
lincoln barret DNB
BenjaBassable 1 year ago
If they ever play, it will be Boise State 31, Alabama 20.
Boelcke1916 1 year ago
Memo to Nick Saban and Alabama: Watch this movie and man up. Stonewall Jackson did not hide form the Yankees at Bull Run, now did he? Schedule Boise State, or be forever labeled as true cowards.
Boelcke1916 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 Ur not american so who gives a fuck what u think????
Bandito8487 1 year ago
This movie is horrible, oh god
Nerevar1990 1 year ago
@Nerevar1990 it definitely was not Gettysburg.
TigerRifle1 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 Eh... Not quite the same thing at all.
America split with the British Emp. because it wanted direct representation, not representation through parliament, where each member of parliament voted on behalf of all citizens of the Emp. The split was also contributed to by the many years of salutory neglect the colonies experienced from the British Emp. On the other hand, the Confederate states had a large number in Congress and were involved in the legislative process. So no.
XxleapingxlizardsxX 1 year ago
It looked so good! Then I saw it..... horrible movie. ACTING SUCKED!!!!!!
xxTheGhilliedGhostxx 1 year ago
@xxTheGhilliedGhostxx watch Gettysburg... -.-
zxd3stin27xz 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 The term is secede. Not succeed.
Phd12741 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 and where are you from the merry ol land of Oz?
ES7upyours 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 The whole reason behind the American War of Independence was that the colonists:
a. didn't want to obey a central authority
b. had habits vastly different from England.
The Southern states chose to secede for the same reason. They felt they were being controlled by the Federal Government.
MondoBeno 1 year ago
It's not so much slave rights as it is slavery, but not from the standpoint taught in schools - they make it seem a moral conflict, with the question being whether or not slavery is right - when in reality, it is truly the economic implications of the abolishing of slavery the South and North conflicted over - after all, the North dominated Congress and had a Republican president - controlling 2/3 of the government's branches.
doodlewonk 1 year ago
From Lincoln's own words:
"If i could save the Union by freeing all the slaves i would do it. If i could save the union by not freeing the slaves i would do it"
poodtang1 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 i also find it funny how a country who stole its right to exist, and was founded on genocide and made powerful by slavery, somehow has the right to tell other countrys whats right and wrong, and be the worlds police
101andrewj 1 year ago
@101andrewj The stronger dog humps the leg...
I'm not saying it's right, but it is that way.
cowlarva 1 year ago
who was the kinda hot guy who was always with stonewall jackson in the movie? he didn't have a beard or anything..... and he was hot. he was the one that didn't want the deserters from the stonewall brigade to be shot??
awesomebubba97 1 year ago
@awesomebubba97 Capt. Alexander "Sandie" Pendelton, played by actor Jeremy London
jrs689 11 months ago
@jrs689 thanks!!!
awesomebubba97 11 months ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 You wouldn't understand, so don't even try.
espakor 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander1 And how they were against imperialism however gained the additional 37 states of America in much the same way an imperial nation would.
grobo11 1 year ago
@Proudnewfoundlander.... I think that all the time.
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demeandr121 1 year ago
my 8th grade science teacher taught it right that the civil war wasn't just caused because Union they wanted to end slavery
sports899 1 year ago
what's the name of this song?
Sixten0815 1 year ago
TRUE AMERICA BORN 1776, DIED 1865
legazter 1 year ago