14CC is actually the counter to 2 hatch muta. But the general idea is to wall of the natural. Without the wall off, both bases are prone to ling rushes.
That actually felt rigged. Im not saying Effort is bad, he is a fucking awesome player.. But i think Flash should know better than doing a 14CC in the final round of a tournament.
Greetz to Mrs Klazart. Tell her she'll have a lot of targets to hit with that gun - we're all down here watching with you. If she brings cookies instead, all the better!
Like you said, Klazart, this series did remind us of what made us fall in love with pro Starcraft in the first place - not to mention the Godfather factor ;)
Its understandable that he would try one risky strat when he was 2-0 but what the hell was he thinking? When you play for the golden mouse, you play by Murphy's law. Flash REALLY should've known better. I guess he kinda deserved it?
Amazing series!!! 3rd time I watched it. Well done Effort, thats how sport goes, right decisions at the right time! Flash didn't do that and Effort did!
Thanks a lot for the cast Klazart! you deserve a golden mic!
i think flash gave games 3,4 and 5 away. he knows playing defensively is where he's best at. instead he did the dumbest strategies against a good zerg player. what terran doesn't wall up their choke and instead fast expands against a zergling rush? seriously flash come on man, he gave those games away. i wouldn't be surprised if he gets caught up in the betting games lawsuit with the rest of them. can't believe he did such dumb shit.
this is bullshit. I think this is rigged, flash knows that he will get his golden mouse, he's not going to loose his endorsments, he still has the msl, and this doesn't make any sense
@Doral08 12 hatch is actually the slowest build to get out zerglings, so the zerg went the opposite of a quick zergling rush, 14cc is even supposed to counter 12 hatch, but flash failed defending.
-Effort certainly didn't play perfectly, and did seem adversely affected at times because of his initially poor situation, but he deserves a lot of credit for his come back win, and at the same time, Flash did not play up to standard.
-Besides it was Flash who went for 2 trick builds, 3 if you count the ill conceived valkyrie build in set 1, which really had little expected value. If there is anyone to blame for Flash's loss, it is himself, either for not playing as well as he can in general, or for using builds that were, simply put, not very good. Effort on the other hand played well. He scouted early almost every game, playing it safe while sacrificing mining, or he played aggressively with intuitively strong builds
That being said, I was actually rooting for Effort to win the series, I am a fan of his playstyle, and coming back from a 2-0 deficit, and coming back from a re-game after gaining a significant advantage, against undoubtedly one of the top 2 players in history, is a truly awesome achievement, and one deserving of a lot of respect. To those people saying Effort won because of cheese or he was undeserving of victory: Its not about who was the better "subjective" player, its about who wins.
I feel as if Flash was trying to incorporate to much of a psychological/"mind games" aspect into his play this series, by doing tricky builds, early baracks one game, Fast expo the next, in order to confuse Effort. This type of play might be more optimal if Flash was playing someone like Jaedong or Stork, against whom he might need to pull something extra out to win a series, but against Effort it shouldn't have been necessary to the extent that it was actually utilized.
Thank for the commentaries Klazy, awesome to hear you again. Not a very good set though, I feel Flash is the dominant player, the first 2 games it was like a pro vs a minor.. then last 3 games he makes stupid builds and almost seems to stop trying, what is up with that? Effort may have won best out of 5 but Flash is the better player, so it's disappointing to see him lose like that, 3 lottos.
imo flash GG'd too early, and if he had instead built a third rax at his nat to help wall off insead of an e-bay, he would have been just fine I think, and may have taken an easy lead from toasting so many lings.
thats bullshit.. i'm sorry to effort.. but thats pure grade a bullshit.. flash OWNED effort in the first two games then activates tard mode and throws away his golden mouse.. lame.. effort didnt deserve that win, flash just gave it away with a freakin 14cc for crying out loud.. =/
@AtomicRadii Like that commentary when someone said something negative about marriage and SC2GGRise retorted with "I associate marriage with constant ass."
@friendbg that couldn't be topped in hilariousness, 3 of the biggest sc1 commentators coming back to do flash vs. jaedong :D although they're officially retired from sc1 commentary and maybe a littly rusty - as klazart stated - it would be just awesome!
When I saw the game took less than 10 minutes, I started to fear for the results. And well, I was right to fear. :(
Disastrous decisions by the loser. As for the champion - well done. He played well in games 3-5, so I'd say he deserves it. I'm still a favourite of the loser, and wish he had won, but it can't be helped.
Looking forward to your casting of the MSL final. Here's hoping Flash wins it. :P
Well, nice try for not spoiling the results by not mentioning any names. But you did mention what games the winner did good on, so it's a bit redundant.
@Mercurite Yeah lol, I saw the time and was sad, I knew Flash was done.. effort can only win by some kind of luck / cheese ... then when I saw Flash getting that early expo.. o god..
Zerg takes it! Of all things a 14 cc... of all things... the one thing that would always almost guarantee him a loss and he does it on a small map... Honestly I didn't want Flash to win just because I usually root for underdogs. For some reason I've never liked Flash. In my opinion its not that difficult to play Terran... that might be it but I did used to love Boxer maybe because he was just so creative. Anyway this is it guys! Say goodbye to SC1 forever! I've been playing beta and sc2 is nice.
i dont think the 14 cc damned him but it did put him in a intense situation, maybe if he had better block on choke he could have handled that better, either way gg
i think flash was trying to out smart effort, since its the last game, maybe flash anticipated that effort will go for a more econ heavy build like 12 hatch so he went 14 cc. but effort went for 12 pool. GG
I think at another youtube clip they mentioned that Effort went for 12 GAS so his lings and speed lings were delayed a bit. Still he won, so this even more shows than 14 cc is very bad.
There's never been any indication Flash has been involved in match fixing, he's been regarded as squeaky clean because of the way his parents watch his finances.
Very dramatic series, the level of game sense from first Flash and then Effort has been phenomenal, they've been getting right into each other's heads.
it was Flash's tremendous ego that did him in for sure. I like how EVERYONE knows this thing is over as soon as that 14 CC goes down. Effort didn't do anything championship-worthy in the series, he just took advantage of Flash's mistakes.
@NaturalTvventy Are you kidding... give him some credit for coming back after 2 losses and going 3-0. I think taking advantage of mistakes is what makes one person a winner and the other a loser. Also the nerve and guts to not break down.
Lower your outbound, and maybe you could STOP WHISPERING.. so annoying...
daprelle 7 months ago
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too bad Klazart isnt a SC2 commentator :l
morlakaix 7 months ago
14CC is actually the counter to 2 hatch muta. But the general idea is to wall of the natural. Without the wall off, both bases are prone to ling rushes.
DeadbeatXT 1 year ago
pls pls pls shut up !!!!
TheNewHotHipHop1 1 year ago
I think Flash assumed Effort wanted to go a long game and that assumption was fatal. Effort deserved it, not from this game, but 3 and 4
meddlingmage23 1 year ago
@meddlingmage23 The assumption was 2 hatch muta, like Jaedong would do.
DeadbeatXT 1 year ago
EFFORT ? SABE COMO USAR ALOS ZERLINGS UN JUGADOR DE PRIMERA
HELQATAP 1 year ago
Never played Starcraft but this guy makes it entertaining to watch
curley0712 1 year ago
Klazart: "flash, suicidal with a suicidal strategy"
MyLifeForAuir87 1 year ago
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u talk too fast idiot
ninibooboo4 1 year ago
That actually felt rigged. Im not saying Effort is bad, he is a fucking awesome player.. But i think Flash should know better than doing a 14CC in the final round of a tournament.
Anyhow, Effort is awesome, gz to him.
IzeTheJukebox 1 year ago 3
@IzeTheJukebox
what confuses me is you all say "14cc" but he created the command center on 12.
Deepwoundjenna 1 year ago
@Deepwoundjenna he created the cc on 14
mognite 3 months ago
goddamn, great series, effort deserves the win.. too bad about that golden mouse though. man, once he got those lings in, flash was in trouble.
ggs. great commentary.
drag0nwind 1 year ago
KlazartSC OMG why you speak so fast AFPHASOFHAOSFHOGhsOUG DERP HERP , that's annoying , but thanks for commentary.
CrazyUberix 1 year ago
4:20 JIZZ IN MA PANTS??? nvm nice comentary
Deidara1BG 1 year ago
is this game rigged?? y would he do such a risky bo???!!
obstinatejack 1 year ago
@obstinatejack
because hes flash
Deepwoundjenna 1 year ago
this is a 2 player map, ofc he's scouting crossmap -_-
odiumisfun 1 year ago
whats the golden mouse?
hotstuffwatcher 1 year ago
@hotstuffwatcher
You earn it for winning the OSL three times. Only three players accomplished that: Nada, JulyZerg and Jaedong.
CeterumCenseo85 1 year ago
Flash... what were you thinking?!
Nice commentary, man.
Adersick 1 year ago
Greetz to Mrs Klazart. Tell her she'll have a lot of targets to hit with that gun - we're all down here watching with you. If she brings cookies instead, all the better!
8DX 1 year ago
rigged! haha sorry.
BuildSC 1 year ago
awesome commentary! I am waiting for your MSL finals!!!!!!!!
drewbsn87 1 year ago
Like you said, Klazart, this series did remind us of what made us fall in love with pro Starcraft in the first place - not to mention the Godfather factor ;)
GG!
PolygonreVue 1 year ago
Klazart what happend to your energy?
IntoTheFace 1 year ago
@IntoTheFace Mrs. Klazart has it locked up upstairs
Kelrash 1 year ago
Its understandable that he would try one risky strat when he was 2-0 but what the hell was he thinking? When you play for the golden mouse, you play by Murphy's law. Flash REALLY should've known better. I guess he kinda deserved it?
DawnOfDemise 1 year ago
lol finally the monster flash gets beaten. he just lost the osl, but soon the msl to jaedong. bad season for him...
darrens888 1 year ago
Super excited Klazart trying to whisper...priceless.
Mpower277 1 year ago 21
nice series, was fun watching that
LMTR14 1 year ago
Flash :(
But he felt probably too cool for a 3:0. Always thinking of the fans...and trying to bring them a long game finally :-/
WarpBerlin 1 year ago
flash deserved this loss...
back again with the fast expands builds...
processor overhearing problems again...lol
damn im pissed
98989898787878 1 year ago
Klaz, pls tell Mrs. Klaz that your fans appreciate her patience and understanding :-D
zak1zakzak 1 year ago 40
He simply reverse killed him, wtf? good job :D
sinekonata 1 year ago
Amazing series!!! 3rd time I watched it. Well done Effort, thats how sport goes, right decisions at the right time! Flash didn't do that and Effort did!
Thanks a lot for the cast Klazart! you deserve a golden mic!
americouk82 1 year ago 2
You people need to look at the unit-counting station.
It says 11 hatch, 12 cc. So please stop discussing 12 hatch vs 14 cc
AassPils 1 year ago
@AassPils The name of the build is 14 cc. The exact amount of SCV's is NOT the most important part.
Ryuouken 1 year ago
where can we bet on starcraft lol
patatepowa 1 year ago
'3:36 samsung oz' new team?
d07a 1 year ago
@d07a
I'm sure he meant Samsung Khan
Loknar64 1 year ago
Spoiler
Its fun cous ppl call flash a genius and he goes "hurp durp durp i think i will 14cc THATS A GREAT IDEA!!!!
TheLlamaSC 1 year ago
@TheLlamaSC that's definitely a 17 yr old mistake
jamchew1982 1 year ago
Fu guys, I was cheering for Effort all along :D FIGHTING !!
Gullfisken89 1 year ago
Does klaz know matchpoint is a 2 player map?
dogabutila 1 year ago
omg... this makes me sad... flash had it... in game 3 if he didn't move out his marines he could have had it...
BixZsc 1 year ago
Terminator lost to the Alien.
RaiKageRyu 1 year ago 2
I guess Flash hasn't grown up.
spaceorbison 1 year ago
hell has frozen over guys.
~gg
XTheDamnedOneX 1 year ago
Thanks for commenting on this OSL Final Klazart. I can't wait for you to do the MSL. Thanks again!
JivaKool 1 year ago 2
i think flash gave games 3,4 and 5 away. he knows playing defensively is where he's best at. instead he did the dumbest strategies against a good zerg player. what terran doesn't wall up their choke and instead fast expands against a zergling rush? seriously flash come on man, he gave those games away. i wouldn't be surprised if he gets caught up in the betting games lawsuit with the rest of them. can't believe he did such dumb shit.
Doral08 1 year ago
@Doral08
I agree,
this is bullshit. I think this is rigged, flash knows that he will get his golden mouse, he's not going to loose his endorsments, he still has the msl, and this doesn't make any sense
bullbunnies 1 year ago
@Doral08 12 hatch is actually the slowest build to get out zerglings, so the zerg went the opposite of a quick zergling rush, 14cc is even supposed to counter 12 hatch, but flash failed defending.
tuoljg 1 year ago
@tuoljg It gets lings out later than other builds, but the 2nd hatch lets you get out a lot of lings.
Demoliri 1 year ago
@Demoliri Yes but if 12 hat is concidered a counter to 14cc, every single build the zerg goes for is a counter.
tuoljg 1 year ago
@tuoljg Exactly, that's the reason Flash almost always loses whenever he goes for that build.
FrSIBYLA 1 year ago
-Effort certainly didn't play perfectly, and did seem adversely affected at times because of his initially poor situation, but he deserves a lot of credit for his come back win, and at the same time, Flash did not play up to standard.
mognite 1 year ago
Terminator malfunctioned :(
Whiterabbit124 1 year ago 3
-Besides it was Flash who went for 2 trick builds, 3 if you count the ill conceived valkyrie build in set 1, which really had little expected value. If there is anyone to blame for Flash's loss, it is himself, either for not playing as well as he can in general, or for using builds that were, simply put, not very good. Effort on the other hand played well. He scouted early almost every game, playing it safe while sacrificing mining, or he played aggressively with intuitively strong builds
mognite 1 year ago
I was rooting for Effort because Flash was such a favorite, but it was a 12 or 14 CC..he made the 1st rax after
chrisbary 1 year ago
That being said, I was actually rooting for Effort to win the series, I am a fan of his playstyle, and coming back from a 2-0 deficit, and coming back from a re-game after gaining a significant advantage, against undoubtedly one of the top 2 players in history, is a truly awesome achievement, and one deserving of a lot of respect. To those people saying Effort won because of cheese or he was undeserving of victory: Its not about who was the better "subjective" player, its about who wins.
mognite 1 year ago 2
I feel as if Flash was trying to incorporate to much of a psychological/"mind games" aspect into his play this series, by doing tricky builds, early baracks one game, Fast expo the next, in order to confuse Effort. This type of play might be more optimal if Flash was playing someone like Jaedong or Stork, against whom he might need to pull something extra out to win a series, but against Effort it shouldn't have been necessary to the extent that it was actually utilized.
mognite 1 year ago 3
Shit shit shit shit.
demonkoryu 1 year ago
what a plessure hearing this series from you klazart!
noamzilo 1 year ago
Thank for the commentaries Klazy, awesome to hear you again. Not a very good set though, I feel Flash is the dominant player, the first 2 games it was like a pro vs a minor.. then last 3 games he makes stupid builds and almost seems to stop trying, what is up with that? Effort may have won best out of 5 but Flash is the better player, so it's disappointing to see him lose like that, 3 lottos.
ampdgmr 1 year ago
thanks for commentating this match up Klazart!
Michael94546 1 year ago
imo flash GG'd too early, and if he had instead built a third rax at his nat to help wall off insead of an e-bay, he would have been just fine I think, and may have taken an easy lead from toasting so many lings.
thedebateroom 1 year ago
spoilers
thats bullshit.. i'm sorry to effort.. but thats pure grade a bullshit.. flash OWNED effort in the first two games then activates tard mode and throws away his golden mouse.. lame.. effort didnt deserve that win, flash just gave it away with a freakin 14cc for crying out loud.. =/
uzernam302 1 year ago
Klazart's voice made my drone jizz.
ReganHuang 1 year ago
Its really good to hear Klazart commentating again... for a short time, but still :D
Tnx Klazart !
TauntsMaunts 1 year ago 2
unexpected, still gratz to Effort
I think 13 cc got an advantage vs 12 hatch but Effort went all-in lings and won
sc2gg4ever 1 year ago
LOL Transcribe audio beta fails on youtube for Klaz :D.
RadiateJayess 1 year ago
14CC into GG!
Thanks for coming back to commentate on the finals once again, it's a real treat.
Nostalgamagic 1 year ago
She keeps the sword by her bed cause you said you were retired. LOL Im a married man too, I know some of the perks of marriage.
AtomicRadii 1 year ago
@AtomicRadii Like that commentary when someone said something negative about marriage and SC2GGRise retorted with "I associate marriage with constant ass."
Nostalgamagic 1 year ago
@Nostalgamagic "Constant Ass" Indeed :D
AtomicRadii 1 year ago
SPOILER
I can't believe Flash loosing this shit :( So dissappointed
tymyor 1 year ago
tripple commentary with rise and cholera on the msl final (Flash vs Jaedong) will be the most epic way to send off brood war. PLEEEEASE!!!!
friendbg 1 year ago
@friendbg that couldn't be topped in hilariousness, 3 of the biggest sc1 commentators coming back to do flash vs. jaedong :D although they're officially retired from sc1 commentary and maybe a littly rusty - as klazart stated - it would be just awesome!
flusck 1 year ago
When I saw the game took less than 10 minutes, I started to fear for the results. And well, I was right to fear. :(
Disastrous decisions by the loser. As for the champion - well done. He played well in games 3-5, so I'd say he deserves it. I'm still a favourite of the loser, and wish he had won, but it can't be helped.
Looking forward to your casting of the MSL final. Here's hoping Flash wins it. :P
Mercurite 1 year ago
@Mercurite kudos for anti spoil
PannaIka 1 year ago 2
@Mercurite
Well, nice try for not spoiling the results by not mentioning any names. But you did mention what games the winner did good on, so it's a bit redundant.
weihoozie 1 year ago
@Mercurite Yeah lol, I saw the time and was sad, I knew Flash was done.. effort can only win by some kind of luck / cheese ... then when I saw Flash getting that early expo.. o god..
ampdgmr 1 year ago
Zerg takes it! Of all things a 14 cc... of all things... the one thing that would always almost guarantee him a loss and he does it on a small map... Honestly I didn't want Flash to win just because I usually root for underdogs. For some reason I've never liked Flash. In my opinion its not that difficult to play Terran... that might be it but I did used to love Boxer maybe because he was just so creative. Anyway this is it guys! Say goodbye to SC1 forever! I've been playing beta and sc2 is nice.
spaceorbison 1 year ago
Klaz slow down! The youtube captions can't keep up with you :( lolol
ToSSpLaY 1 year ago
lol saw these games all ready
but rewatching them with klazart's commentary is a whole "new " experience lol
barbahaba 1 year ago
I was doing other things... and then I saw Klazart had an update and stopped everything to sit down and watch this. :)
demonsaintdante 1 year ago
KLAZZZAART!!! :) Good to see you with vids again!
Xaron 1 year ago
What was going on in Flash's mind.
sufilix 1 year ago
yeah, that was a 14cc... u can tell just looking at the rate flash gets his minerals and then builds the cc without building rax at all.
damn it flash, WHYYYYYY????? why the stupid cheese in game 4, why this?
ColonelVolkov 1 year ago
@ColonelVolkov 12 cc..
TheRPGamer 1 year ago
i dont think the 14 cc damned him but it did put him in a intense situation, maybe if he had better block on choke he could have handled that better, either way gg
UpTballA 1 year ago
I'm looking forward to your MSL commentary! :D
jtle24 1 year ago
i think flash was trying to out smart effort, since its the last game, maybe flash anticipated that effort will go for a more econ heavy build like 12 hatch so he went 14 cc. but effort went for 12 pool. GG
nice to hear from klaz again.
messitup 1 year ago
I think at another youtube clip they mentioned that Effort went for 12 GAS so his lings and speed lings were delayed a bit. Still he won, so this even more shows than 14 cc is very bad.
firepowerjohan 1 year ago
@firepowerjohan 14 cc is bad on this map. huge ass choke, actually no choke. flash got scouted n pwned. it was a very good match.
craziii3 1 year ago
There's never been any indication Flash has been involved in match fixing, he's been regarded as squeaky clean because of the way his parents watch his finances.
Real Starcraft is just this dramatic!
LtMercutio 1 year ago
Lol 1:45 the camera man is on LSD.
rbrtchng 1 year ago
Very dramatic series, the level of game sense from first Flash and then Effort has been phenomenal, they've been getting right into each other's heads.
LtMercutio 1 year ago
flash needed TO BLOCK THE BACK OF MINS WITH SUPPLY D=
crimson35124 1 year ago
how come you didn't do it together with diggity and moletrap?
Konrad111111 1 year ago 2
it was Flash's tremendous ego that did him in for sure. I like how EVERYONE knows this thing is over as soon as that 14 CC goes down. Effort didn't do anything championship-worthy in the series, he just took advantage of Flash's mistakes.
NaturalTvventy 1 year ago
@NaturalTvventy Are you kidding... give him some credit for coming back after 2 losses and going 3-0. I think taking advantage of mistakes is what makes one person a winner and the other a loser. Also the nerve and guts to not break down.
spaceorbison 1 year ago
Thanks klazart, i love the way you understand 100% of how work SCBW.
Hope you have kept your head :) may we have a picture of the sword? ^.^
kamalh95 1 year ago 2
i guess he has played to mush sc2beta.
lenzorg 1 year ago
make more commentaries :D
relmege 1 year ago
good commentary though
obamaftwyeah 1 year ago
this is like WWE wrestling now... so rigged... fucking stupid money hungry retards killing an awesome sport... R.I.P. starcraft.
obamaftwyeah 1 year ago
@obamaftwyeah SHUT THE FUCK UP, it's not rigged...
xXhelmsdeepXx 1 year ago
No...not one Barrack, it's downright 14cc.
Leziii 1 year ago
klaz's affair with starcraft commentary...couldn't stay away huh, klaz?
teneight78 1 year ago 2
@teneight78 "I wish I could quit you." -- Klaz to Starcraft.
newsradiohead 1 year ago 3
thank god i didn't bet.....
JOEMAMA5905 1 year ago
DIDN'T KALZ QUIT!? omg i'm soo happy
hergy77 1 year ago
Klazart made this finals match so so much more epic than all of the other commentators. Although I do very much enjoy their commentaries as well!
EziixPked 1 year ago 14
triple cast the msl w/ moletrap and diggty maybe?
lowfatfishsticks 1 year ago
Atta boy, Flash! -Rolls eyes-
ChAoS9779 1 year ago
woot woot go winner, OBEY THE SWARM
aaronhedberg 1 year ago
lol klaz, it's a 2 player map :D
thanks again for the great commentating!
Tyke91 1 year ago
ya, no doubt 14cc
zengrz 1 year ago
Hmm, was that an audio delay?
bronx43 1 year ago
wtf flash
get it together!
EeXen 1 year ago