Noam Chomsky on ... America ...

[WarmongerWW3]

The oil does not belong to Venezuela just because it's on venezuelan soil. The oil belongs to those who are stronger to exploit this natural resource.

[MrUltitrader]

what we need to do is to put your sorry communist fascist ass in a plane and ship you back to Russia,

[44warjunkie]

"No Muslim territory should ever become non-Muslim…..Let the whole world know that we shall never accept the tragedy of Andalusia (the name of the Arab Empire in Spain) - Osama Bin Ladin

The religious zealotry that propels todays radical Islamists can only be explained within the context of history. People like Noam Chomsky are blind to the obvious and ignore the facts because if he comes to the realization that radical Islam is the problem, he will have to support the side he’s against.

[warriorprince1010]

Charvez is now unpopular, Argentina is again in recession.  Chomsky is always wrong.

[adeadlysniper]

@warriorprince1010

Who? Chavez? You mean the president of Venezuela? You fail, miserably.

[gimlithepimp88]

@adeadlysniper dude ur a fucking moron get ur facts straight

[44warjunkie]

@warriorprince1010 he hates capitalism but lives in a country that has it. Sigh..go figure. 

[warriorprince1010]

@44warjunkie True, hypocritical. 1. The UK never had colonies in S America. 2. It is not the fault of the people buying oil if the leaders of a country are corrupt.

[44warjunkie]

@warriorprince1010 What are you trying to say. Please be more specific in your argument.

[warriorprince1010]

@44warjunkie He talks about the UK being kicked out of South America, yet it was Spain, France and Portugal that owned countries in that region. As for buying oil. The governments of Venezuela and Nigeria are corrupt, this is not the fault of countries buying oil from them.

[44warjunkie]

@warriorprince1010 That is true. We are thought in the West that for every action there is a reaction in the sense that if they hate us, it must mean that we have done something to cause that hate. It’s not in our system to comprehend people with ideological grievances, that is our first mistake.

[mixmastermurf]

@warriorprince1010 he's referring here to the dispute of the Guayana Esequiba territories between Britain and Venezuela.

What is your point exactly about oil etc.? You appear to be attacking Chomsky's views without referencing anything he brings up in this video.

[warriorprince1010]

@mixmastermurf We made our points clear, you are obviously a Chomskyite. The battle for natural resources has gone on for years and happens even more in dictatorships. So again hypocrisy from Chomsky.

[mixmastermurf]

@warriorprince1010 No you did not make your points clear and you are still saying very little. Yes wars over resources have always happened, everyone accepts this.

In this video Chomsky is highlighting previous support for dictators or corrupt governments once they are in line with US policy.

Chazez is an exception and a problem for the US and an example of a mood in S. America in that they won't be manipulated anymore.

He does not say Chavez in great or any other enemy of the US.

[warriorprince1010]

@mixmastermurf Chomsky as you are well aware is anglophobic [hates the English speaking world]. Do you think France, China and Russia got their oil is a fair and open manner? I am happy to support capitalism and democracy, I make my points well.

[owenhunt]

@warriorprince1010 The UK ran tarrifs on every coastline in the world, shortly after the War of Independence; the UK secured world control by triumphing in the Anglo-French war. Probably the only time the world was truly globalised under it's more modern, sinister meaning - subject to hegemonic privileges at the request of a monied elite.

My own point of view is that colonisation has ceased to be the way forward, as it's original use was as protection for embattered countries such as Britain.

[WarmongerWW3]

@warriorprince1010 "The UK never had colonies in S America"

You still have. Falklands.

[arcanto28]

@WarmongerWW3 Exactly, and they took them after fail to take Buenos Aires.

[mistertakeda]

These comments are rather intelligent for YouTube, I think.

[scarletletterman84]

@mistertakeda

chomsky vids, among a few others, are god tier for intelligent users, just fyi

[mistertakeda]

Often they are magnets for fundamentalist witch hunters and conservative fanatics decrying Chomsky's imagined pedophilia, place in the "worldwide Jewish conspiracy", and other believed baby eating antics.

Basically, this is a good thread. Bully for you, intelligent tubers!

[diceyLee]

@mistertakeda slightly higher quality of content than a Glenn Beck Pseudo-documentary,,,, :)

[dempsey981]

@diceyLee ha ha well then its a given that you dont like chomski we can presume.if thats so ya need to do a little better,because i think beck about finished high school.thats a fact!!chomskys an mit professor,linguist icon,author of about 120 books,so wheres your point ??

[diceyLee]

@dempsey981 it wasn't a point, it was a sarcastic pit..... which your oblivious self just marched into.....well done....

"because i think beck about finished high school" - wow, did you graduate?

[Twoblindmen2009]

they dont know what to do about american people and how to get their guns thats why their gonna nuke america or more correctly let russia nuke america while the learers are underground with their clean food ,water,and soilders and all the gold

[t1449947]

The U.S. is a global power, so you cant just look at one region. You have to look at whats going on everywhere. So if we go back, say, to the last intelligence projection of the Clinton administration, National Intelligence Council, year 2000, their projection for the next 15 years, they—just keeping to energy, but theres a lot more. They took it as a matter of course that the United States would control Middle East oil. They dont discuss that much. And then they say the United States

[mmtot]

This guy is a funkin shill , he is anti 2nd ammendment and his take on 911 is a joke.

[rantrandomly]

'democrazy is taken more seriously in Latin America then the US or Europe' My god! There r people that believe this crap! By the way, the anti Chavez attempted coup was not organized by the US. When it happened the state department unwisely failed to condemn it. Venezuela has deep domestic problems that have nothing to do with the US.

[VivaElCheSiempre]

perhaps not in Europe, but democracy is definitely more serious in Latin America than in the US. They have an actual choice between two candidates of highly disparate views, whereas in the US we have a right wing and a center-right candidate.

The US did support the coup, the state department is on record as having given money to the plotters before the coup and if they did not know what they were going to do it was only through gross negligence, because the plotters were very open about it.

[rantrandomly]

This is what happens when your starting point is hatred for the us. U get massive distortions and half truths. A) Chaves is no democrat. Venezuela has a belligerent policy towards Columbia including supporting terrorists. B) Argentina is no economic success story. And their failures are centered on domestic political problems that have very little to do with the US.

[tkstka]

C) fact is, you are obviously mental midget. your are saying latin-americans arent taking democracy serious? When did you take democracy seriously? Fact is people are tired of U.S and western countries raping their natural resources and trying implant governments.

Now you can go watch tv. American idols is probably starting or something.

[Kalydosos]

Lovely comment I'm moving to venezuala!

[rantrandomly]

U have a 1900th century world view. America is a 3 trillion $ service economy. Raw materials is a small % of the actual value of any given product. The US happily pays for commodities because a) they r not worth much and b) it is more trouble then it is worth to run other countries. Once again the US is often blamed for other countries domestic failings out of convenience.

[rantrandomly]

And what is with the insults? Do they enhance your arguments or do you simply enjoy being angry and mean?

[CastilianAngel]

Are you an idiot? Argentina's peso used to be worth more than the dollar. And Chavez IS democratic, he was elected president fairly, you idiot.

[rantrandomly]

Hitler was also democratically elected. We can probably agree that he turned into a dictator.  Chavez was also elected but he is transitioning into a dictator as well.

[tkstka]

I came here to give a responce to your comments but then I saw your comment to CastlilianAngel about Chavez being compared to Hitler..

That comment won the stupid award right from the pat. Chavez has nothing similar to views of Hitler. Hitler was hardcore rightwing nationalist and had the same patriotic views that most of your fellow americans do. He wanted to serve his country and "defend" Germany against terrorist in Poland. This was how he got huge amount of support.

[tkstka]

Kind like George Bush did with Iraq and Afganistan and your U.S media glorify it like nationalist party in Germany during ww2.

Hugo Chavez is Left socialist who believes in equal rights and distribution of wealth.

He is rightly talking against U.S considering the history between that region and U.S..

You probably dont even know the history and facts and still keep blindly talk against Chavez when he is rightfully angry against U.S

[rantrandomly]

'Rightly angry with the US'? The huge class differences that have tortured Venezuela and other LA countries is a legacy of Spanish colonialism not US policies. Sure US policy in the region has not always been selfless or enlightened at all times. But no country is. My point is the US is a symbol more then anything else. Its influence is dramatically overblown and other problems r swept under the rug. It is just a political tactic.

[Dalambam]

"The huge class differences that have tortured Venezuela and other LA countries is a legacy of Spanish colonialism not US policies. Sure US policy in the region has not always been selfless or enlightened at all times. But no country is. My point is the US is a symbol more then anything else."

The US has smashed down a good number of Latin American democratic states to replace them with horrible racist dictatorships,

[rantrandomly]

So does the US manufacture political, social, economic or military leaders out of thin air and then impose them on peaceful, innocent utopian Latin American countries? The US has, on occasion, thrown its weight behind one political faction or another. Not always the folks that have the welfare of their people at heart. But the US is not some evil god that creates these divisions in Latin American societies. AniAmericanism ascribes 2 much power to the US and ignores domestic political realities

[Dalambam]

has carried out terror operations of a huge scale against several L.A. countries, has driven entire countries into misery by embargoing them to death, and has managed to set up a complicated system of large scale robbery where hundreds of billions of dollars are shipped from Latin American working people to US banks and corporations, and generally aggressively jumps at the throat of any country that tries to break away from this system...

[Dalambam]

No, if Latin American people hate the US govt it's not only because of its goodness and magnificence, i assure you.. Though I agree that anger against the US govt is also exploited as a political tactic by some L.A. leaders as well.

[ManzGun]

@Dalambam, wow. You're still dreaming and watching fox or CNN. Just because Americans are lazy to learn about their countries terrorizing policies, it doesn't mean other people are like americans. People know all about the terrorist and racist activity of the US and it's "allies." You can't fool people anymore to get those oil. US is bringing dictators in the arab countries to secure theft of their resources. Those fucking Arab "leaders," will be thrown in hell by supporting terrorist USA.

[rantrandomly]

Please read the argument I was in. I said that Hitler was democratically elected. Not talking about his views. My point: you can be elected and then turn into a dictator. Like Hitler and Chavez/Putin. One more thing: The Natzi's where socialists. Dictatorship, Nationalism and war work just fine with socialism. (Not everything evil has to be 'right wing')

[Dalambam]

"I said that Hitler was democratically elected." - A lot of people say that but it's not true. He never won an election. He was nominated at a high level government office in 1933 and then took over the govt.

"The Natzi's where socialists." - Um, no. Yes there was "socialism" in his party's name, in the same way that there's "democratic" in the name of the "Democratic Republic of North Korea". Nazi Germany's economy was capitalist, with a fascistic military-keynesian flavor.

[billyd87]

he wasn't elected, but he never broke any laws or rules coming into power. He just altered all the safeguards against tyranny just enough to claim powers the Kaiser couldn't usually.

[Dalambam]

"Dictatorship, Nationalism and war work just fine with socialism." - No, they don't. Socialism is the idea that collective productive means e.g. factories etc should be democratically controlled by working people.. It's incompatible with dictatorship and war, though it may be mixed with nationalism, in the sense of national liberation struggles, in some cases. Try to open up to perspectives other than US schoolbooks and CNN.

[Naminator99]

Terrorism? More like Germans in poland without social security and other social problems.

[warriorprince1010]

@tkstka Hitler was a far left national socialist who hate.

[Bellantoni]

you mean far right?

[fiddeekberg]

Hitler didn't even won by a majority. Chavez has done that two times. And the Venezuelan people recently voted to allow Chavez to get elected a third time. Which wasn't allowed before.

[PlasticJesus341]

Lol oh my god did he ever call the secessionist movements, exactly what the oligarchs in Bolivia wanted when they massacred dozens of citizens back in october.

[zoid1982]

Chomsky is simply great!