why does the rest of the world follow the us in this? they TORTURED and killed a million innocent civilians in iraq, not to mention their constant refusal to acknowledge and investigate past crimes and mistakes. the us "justice" system just can't be trusted
@bravehartmman"said would close the prison but keep rendition"
Yeah, huh?! Truly hypocritical. Obie & his gang are just a bunch of deceivers & bullshitters. They make like they're the sheriff's posse in white hats that will clean up the town when really they're just like the guys in the black hats that just left office. Obie's Admin hasn't changed one significant thing in policy from the Bush's. Well maybe one. Says will remove the ABM sites in Poland & Czech Rep. but that remains to be seen.
The title of this video is a bit unfair to Obama. He's trying to close the prison down and the vast majority of the abuses happened before his watch. I don't think a US President is supposed to directly involve himself in an ongoing trial.
Instead, I agree with Amnesty International: why is Prime Minister Stephen Harper refusing to repatriate our own citizen? As a Canadian citizen, I've followed Khadr's case quite closely, and my government's behaviour is utterly unacceptable. .
do you have any other thing to post...I mean it's all you ever say...I mean honestly it just makes you seem like a dolt to keep posting the same shit everywhere you go.
If anything the black community is destroying itself. Most people who commit crimes are black. Most who drop out of school are black. Most fatherless homes are black. White people still have racist tendencies but for the most part, black people are holding themselves back.
Tyhe government has been keeping the black population under controll. Our schools are less funded, it is harder for us to get a job. Have you watched black in america 1&2. watch them and you will learn alot. Now America is trying to controll africa with Africom. They know who ever controlls africa will have unlimmited resourses and manpower.
What do you expect to happen? There aren't many black people in high positions. So we blame America and white people for our problems. When will we stand up and use the freedoms we have been granted by the civil rights movement? We have more freedom and opportunity than any black generation before us and yet we are still complaining.
"Why Isn't Obama Doing Anything About 15 Year Old Thrown In GITMO 8 Years Ago?"
Why? Because Obama's just a big lying bullshitter that said all the "right" & "good" things to the people just to get their votes then ignores all his flowery words & does just as George W. Bush did & maybe even worse. Look how he put in Timothy Geithner, Larry Summers & kept Ben Bernanke on. These are three foxes put in charge to oversee the Wall St hen-house. THESE three fuckers are going to change Wall St? No!
They are going to close it and the hold up was the Bush had documents on the POW's all over the place. They had no centeralized records or even have acurate records of how many POWs they had. So the process to getting the POWs moved or released has been a big lift The Obama Admin set a 1 year time limit because if they did not then this would never get done Current reviews by the Admin show that they will be done transfering POWs 6-8 months after the 1 year date Bush had 8 years to do something
You stupid motherfucker, you have no idea what living under a dictatorship is so stop insulting those that do with your trivial and childish comparaisons.
@oldhacks"I live in oakland dude. aint no black folk walking around talking like that dude. thats for sure"
Oh, so if you don't speak like a jive-ass, motherfucking, ghetto-blasting, afro-wearin', boyz in da hood nigger and your skintone is not like Honky's, you're automatically NOT an African American; you're White, right? Is that it? Speak like a run-of-the-mill typical American and you're what, an Uncle Tom? Shut the fuck up, you bigot, and like I said, broaden your horizons AND your mind!
Oh, so your Black, then? Then you're STILL a bigot! A bigot against White people and anyone that looks, sounds and acts like White people -- including Blacks! What a disgrace to the human race you are, pal. Never met you, but that's the vibe I get off of you.
Man, you should be lucky that guy is even on the news. A lot of black people today have pretty much given up hope and blaming things on white people. Yeah slavery and segregation happened but we as a people have to move past that. Black people who still talk in ebonics are ignorant. Public schools are there for a reason other than to not go or goof around. No wonder why black people are still messed up today. They wait for things to happen instead of making them happen.
Then why are inner city schools less funded than suburban schools? They are trying to dumb down the negro population. they are starting to do this to the lationo populations now.
Just because inner city schools are less funded doesn't just stop people from learning. We still have public libraries and the Internet. Granted that the white people may be holding us back but just because they give us less funds then it is useless? So you think it is the funds that cause many black people to drop out of school?
How many generations will have to pass before W's toxic legacy fades from our land? Can the stain ever be scrubbed away or is it now permanently branded on our national soul for all time?
As has every society on earth. But there is sometimes a tension between good and evil with the balance drawing to the light. Bush yanked the scales like the event horizon of a super massive. I was damn near certain he would not relinquish office, but judging by the total lack of prosecution for war crimes and high crimes and misdemeanors, a damn tight deal was struck.
because just about everyone in congress was complicent and only one man voted against this....so we have one good man on the hill right now and every other person on that hill went along for the ride...so they in now way want the light shown down on themselves...they all have blood and their hands and once we start prosecuting we would be hard pressed to find one there who did not wallow in the filth....
You are conveniently forgetting the rigging of the intelligence, the manipulation of the media and the clear and unmistakable message sent by the Anthrax filled letters. I want to know how anyone can doubt the masterful manipulation of our system? He had no scruples up to and including risk of mass death if it got him what he wanted.
how do you come to this conclusion I fully appreaciate the fact that we are subject to propaganda...however having just read your post to me it seems like you are spoiling for a fight. I said nothing to you that would indicate I have forgetten any of those things as a matter of fact my post would suggest that I was fully aware of that...go find some one else to fight with I'm tired of self important people on youtube looking to act ike an ass for no reason.
I'm sorry if I come across as harsh on this subject. I blame him for my adopted brothers death. He owned THE business that installed cell towers and when 9/11 hit, Jerry went to ground zero with his crews and set up auxiliary towers to handle the extra cell traffic there. He was up in the smoke column for a week and he died 2 years later from a heart attack. The man was a BULL! He should still be with us and I will always blame W for not acting on obvious intel!
I can understand your anger I worked the pile for 90 days and have lost two co workers so far. I also am pissed that GW failed to act on The PDB of Aug 6 2001, but like I said it's even worse. Bush and Cheney are war profiteers and for Bush it goes al the way back to his grandfather Prescott Bush and his profiteering during WWII The thing is we wont see justice as we are still complicite in Mai Li viet Nam, the gulf of Tonkin, dropping bio weps in indo china during the korean war The more I read
That had to be akin to waking up every day and voluntarily going into hell. I worked demolition myself as an Iron worker, but that was an old steel mill, not a pit full of still smoldering rubble filled with scraps of fellow humans remains. I also worked on the buildings across the street, the World Finance Center Complex in the 80's as well as the Pentagon as a pipe fitter so I kind of get a bit over wound about this subject...especially late at night. I salute the hell out of you *cont*
for what you did. I agree that Bush/Cheney didn't act in a vacuum, they had some willing, some foolish and many many cowardly accomplices in their misdeeds. I guess the 2 things that still maddens me are this. We left Osama slip away because we went into a non-involved Iraq and we didn't call Bush to task for failing to act on heavy levels of obvious threats prior to 9/11. I would be screaming for Nixons, Kennedys, Trumans, Fords or any post Pearl Harbor President who blew it this bad.
agreed. Bad memories still suffer from PTSD from that as well as combat in the first gulf war and several tours in this mess.
The steele workers where the heros of that day they got in there and got us access to places we thought for sure we'd never get into...the K-9s too where huge as well as the tech guys with the sighting equipment...
the image I still see is the deck full of body bags..each remain got it's own bag out of respect and fear of cross contamination of DNA.
I hope that you never suffer from any of the respiratory ailments that are plaguing so many people that were in "the pit". The WTC was chock full of asbestos and add to that, the smoldering of so many things that should never have been set on fire made for a real toxic nightmare!
And yes, we Ironies can work miracles with a torch, some chokers and some hydraulic jacks. It's all about leverage and balance. And a complete lack of sanity sometimes.
Eternal detainment without being given your day in court just seems so wrong on so many levels. If these people are guilty of something isn't it the usual policy to dispense penalties through the court system if you are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?
Please correct me if I've been mislead as to how the legal process works.
Not the way GW wrote the bill that detains these people....he suspended what you are talking about...and had them written into a legal black hole you are thinking Habeus Corpus...however these people are not even considered POW's they are in a legal limbo that congress allowed Bush to create...
I wish I had money to donate for ya junkie, but I'm broke too, so I'll just leave this comment to remind others that they should. you're doing good work here.
obama is bad, nuff said.
Problems123 1 year ago
if he did it then try him as an enemy soldier.
Garlannd 2 years ago
Bush Cheney War Criminals
marniespeaks 2 years ago
Obama = same as Bush, Cheney, minus he speaks more eloquently, and lies more
wearethenightmare 2 years ago
why does the rest of the world follow the us in this? they TORTURED and killed a million innocent civilians in iraq, not to mention their constant refusal to acknowledge and investigate past crimes and mistakes. the us "justice" system just can't be trusted
MikeRoch6969 2 years ago
ROFL he said he would close the prison but keep rendition ! think about that for a minute.
bravehartmman 2 years ago
@bravehartmman"said would close the prison but keep rendition"
Yeah, huh?! Truly hypocritical. Obie & his gang are just a bunch of deceivers & bullshitters. They make like they're the sheriff's posse in white hats that will clean up the town when really they're just like the guys in the black hats that just left office. Obie's Admin hasn't changed one significant thing in policy from the Bush's. Well maybe one. Says will remove the ABM sites in Poland & Czech Rep. but that remains to be seen.
JixMa 2 years ago
why don't they just change the name of it? that's what they do with everything else.
fakenewz 2 years ago
Stephen Harper is Washington's BITCH.
OnlyIfYouSayPlease 2 years ago
The title of this video is a bit unfair to Obama. He's trying to close the prison down and the vast majority of the abuses happened before his watch. I don't think a US President is supposed to directly involve himself in an ongoing trial.
Instead, I agree with Amnesty International: why is Prime Minister Stephen Harper refusing to repatriate our own citizen? As a Canadian citizen, I've followed Khadr's case quite closely, and my government's behaviour is utterly unacceptable. .
grifonecoronato 2 years ago 4
The WHITE DEVILS are trying to destroy the black community. We must stop them the latinos and asians are next!!!!!
ImRichBitch1994 2 years ago
do you have any other thing to post...I mean it's all you ever say...I mean honestly it just makes you seem like a dolt to keep posting the same shit everywhere you go.
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
If anything the black community is destroying itself. Most people who commit crimes are black. Most who drop out of school are black. Most fatherless homes are black. White people still have racist tendencies but for the most part, black people are holding themselves back.
bluedragonrrj 2 years ago
Tyhe government has been keeping the black population under controll. Our schools are less funded, it is harder for us to get a job. Have you watched black in america 1&2. watch them and you will learn alot. Now America is trying to controll africa with Africom. They know who ever controlls africa will have unlimmited resourses and manpower.
ImRichBitch1994 2 years ago
What do you expect to happen? There aren't many black people in high positions. So we blame America and white people for our problems. When will we stand up and use the freedoms we have been granted by the civil rights movement? We have more freedom and opportunity than any black generation before us and yet we are still complaining.
bluedragonrrj 2 years ago
"Why Isn't Obama Doing Anything About 15 Year Old Thrown In GITMO 8 Years Ago?"
Why? Because Obama's just a big lying bullshitter that said all the "right" & "good" things to the people just to get their votes then ignores all his flowery words & does just as George W. Bush did & maybe even worse. Look how he put in Timothy Geithner, Larry Summers & kept Ben Bernanke on. These are three foxes put in charge to oversee the Wall St hen-house. THESE three fuckers are going to change Wall St? No!
JixMa 2 years ago 2
They are going to close it and the hold up was the Bush had documents on the POW's all over the place. They had no centeralized records or even have acurate records of how many POWs they had. So the process to getting the POWs moved or released has been a big lift The Obama Admin set a 1 year time limit because if they did not then this would never get done Current reviews by the Admin show that they will be done transfering POWs 6-8 months after the 1 year date Bush had 8 years to do something
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
Prime Minister Harper should be beaten sensless for his collusion in this BS. The Canadian people have had enough of this dictator!
2minstral 2 years ago
You stupid motherfucker, you have no idea what living under a dictatorship is so stop insulting those that do with your trivial and childish comparaisons.
Churchx77 2 years ago
@Churchx77
Hear hear, Churchx77! I agree. with what you just said to 2minstral!
JixMa 2 years ago
thats the whitest black dude I've ever seen
oldhacks 2 years ago
@oldhacks
"thats the whitest black dude I've ever seen"
Then maybe you should get out more and broaden your horizons.
JixMa 2 years ago
I live in oakland dude. aint no black folk walking around talking like that dude. thats for sure
oldhacks 2 years ago
@oldhacks"I live in oakland dude. aint no black folk walking around talking like that dude. thats for sure"
Oh, so if you don't speak like a jive-ass, motherfucking, ghetto-blasting, afro-wearin', boyz in da hood nigger and your skintone is not like Honky's, you're automatically NOT an African American; you're White, right? Is that it? Speak like a run-of-the-mill typical American and you're what, an Uncle Tom? Shut the fuck up, you bigot, and like I said, broaden your horizons AND your mind!
JixMa 2 years ago
I do talk like a jive-ass, mother fucking, ghetto blasting, boy in da hood cuz I AM a jive-ass, mother fucking ghetoo blasting boy in da hood.
wtf u talking bout foo? do you even know?
oldhacks 2 years ago
@oldhacks
Oh, so your Black, then? Then you're STILL a bigot! A bigot against White people and anyone that looks, sounds and acts like White people -- including Blacks! What a disgrace to the human race you are, pal. Never met you, but that's the vibe I get off of you.
JixMa 2 years ago
Man, you should be lucky that guy is even on the news. A lot of black people today have pretty much given up hope and blaming things on white people. Yeah slavery and segregation happened but we as a people have to move past that. Black people who still talk in ebonics are ignorant. Public schools are there for a reason other than to not go or goof around. No wonder why black people are still messed up today. They wait for things to happen instead of making them happen.
bluedragonrrj 2 years ago
Then why are inner city schools less funded than suburban schools? They are trying to dumb down the negro population. they are starting to do this to the lationo populations now.
ImRichBitch1994 2 years ago 2
Just because inner city schools are less funded doesn't just stop people from learning. We still have public libraries and the Internet. Granted that the white people may be holding us back but just because they give us less funds then it is useless? So you think it is the funds that cause many black people to drop out of school?
bluedragonrrj 2 years ago
true you are doing great work. love and peace.
phnixlady 2 years ago
How many generations will have to pass before W's toxic legacy fades from our land? Can the stain ever be scrubbed away or is it now permanently branded on our national soul for all time?
Plutonwolf 2 years ago 3
we've been evil for a lot longer then Bush he's just been the most overt about it...
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
As has every society on earth. But there is sometimes a tension between good and evil with the balance drawing to the light. Bush yanked the scales like the event horizon of a super massive. I was damn near certain he would not relinquish office, but judging by the total lack of prosecution for war crimes and high crimes and misdemeanors, a damn tight deal was struck.
Plutonwolf 2 years ago
because just about everyone in congress was complicent and only one man voted against this....so we have one good man on the hill right now and every other person on that hill went along for the ride...so they in now way want the light shown down on themselves...they all have blood and their hands and once we start prosecuting we would be hard pressed to find one there who did not wallow in the filth....
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
You are conveniently forgetting the rigging of the intelligence, the manipulation of the media and the clear and unmistakable message sent by the Anthrax filled letters. I want to know how anyone can doubt the masterful manipulation of our system? He had no scruples up to and including risk of mass death if it got him what he wanted.
Plutonwolf 2 years ago
how do you come to this conclusion I fully appreaciate the fact that we are subject to propaganda...however having just read your post to me it seems like you are spoiling for a fight. I said nothing to you that would indicate I have forgetten any of those things as a matter of fact my post would suggest that I was fully aware of that...go find some one else to fight with I'm tired of self important people on youtube looking to act ike an ass for no reason.
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
I'm sorry if I come across as harsh on this subject. I blame him for my adopted brothers death. He owned THE business that installed cell towers and when 9/11 hit, Jerry went to ground zero with his crews and set up auxiliary towers to handle the extra cell traffic there. He was up in the smoke column for a week and he died 2 years later from a heart attack. The man was a BULL! He should still be with us and I will always blame W for not acting on obvious intel!
Plutonwolf 2 years ago
I can understand your anger I worked the pile for 90 days and have lost two co workers so far. I also am pissed that GW failed to act on The PDB of Aug 6 2001, but like I said it's even worse. Bush and Cheney are war profiteers and for Bush it goes al the way back to his grandfather Prescott Bush and his profiteering during WWII The thing is we wont see justice as we are still complicite in Mai Li viet Nam, the gulf of Tonkin, dropping bio weps in indo china during the korean war The more I read
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
That had to be akin to waking up every day and voluntarily going into hell. I worked demolition myself as an Iron worker, but that was an old steel mill, not a pit full of still smoldering rubble filled with scraps of fellow humans remains. I also worked on the buildings across the street, the World Finance Center Complex in the 80's as well as the Pentagon as a pipe fitter so I kind of get a bit over wound about this subject...especially late at night. I salute the hell out of you *cont*
Plutonwolf 2 years ago
for what you did. I agree that Bush/Cheney didn't act in a vacuum, they had some willing, some foolish and many many cowardly accomplices in their misdeeds. I guess the 2 things that still maddens me are this. We left Osama slip away because we went into a non-involved Iraq and we didn't call Bush to task for failing to act on heavy levels of obvious threats prior to 9/11. I would be screaming for Nixons, Kennedys, Trumans, Fords or any post Pearl Harbor President who blew it this bad.
Plutonwolf 2 years ago
agreed. Bad memories still suffer from PTSD from that as well as combat in the first gulf war and several tours in this mess.
The steele workers where the heros of that day they got in there and got us access to places we thought for sure we'd never get into...the K-9s too where huge as well as the tech guys with the sighting equipment...
the image I still see is the deck full of body bags..each remain got it's own bag out of respect and fear of cross contamination of DNA.
what a task.
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
I hope that you never suffer from any of the respiratory ailments that are plaguing so many people that were in "the pit". The WTC was chock full of asbestos and add to that, the smoldering of so many things that should never have been set on fire made for a real toxic nightmare!
And yes, we Ironies can work miracles with a torch, some chokers and some hydraulic jacks. It's all about leverage and balance. And a complete lack of sanity sometimes.
I hope someday you are properly thanked.
Plutonwolf 2 years ago
you just did enjoy your sunday
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
mynameisbobtoo: I agree.
55ella2007k 2 years ago
Eternal detainment without being given your day in court just seems so wrong on so many levels. If these people are guilty of something isn't it the usual policy to dispense penalties through the court system if you are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?
Please correct me if I've been mislead as to how the legal process works.
glenisah 2 years ago 2
Not the way GW wrote the bill that detains these people....he suspended what you are talking about...and had them written into a legal black hole you are thinking Habeus Corpus...however these people are not even considered POW's they are in a legal limbo that congress allowed Bush to create...
mynameisbobtoo 2 years ago
I wish I had money to donate for ya junkie, but I'm broke too, so I'll just leave this comment to remind others that they should. you're doing good work here.
iTellYouNoLie 2 years ago 2