John Polkinghorne on God, Time, and Causality (Part 1 of 3)

[DoesNotExist305]

Penn & Teller - The Bible is Bullshit.

Look it up.

[joshmanownz]

@DoesNotExist305 so close minded

[socratus1]

Physics & Theology Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit If triangles made a God they would give him three sides / C. de Montesquieu / If physicists made God they would give him concrete physical parameters Which parameters they can be ? We know that God is something Infinite The conception of Infinity we can find in Bible & Physics Are they different ? I think they are equal Does Physicists meet God in Infinite ? Nobody knows what Infinity is

[GeeZone777]

best part of the whole video-- 7:22 zoomed in! :)

[metanosis]

disagree, the lack of rationality lies on the atheist side, not to mention intolerance and closed mindedness and a good dose of impoliteneness and lack of ability to engage in rational discourse,

they seem to think casting vulgarities and name calling is all need be done to carry an argument!

[FourTael]

@metanosis I believe that the probability lies on the side of an incorporeal being (such as a god-figure, but not necessarily any particular religious interpretation of such a being). However, please keep in mind that everyone can be close minded.

In fact, I know this personally. I am a member of a particular belief, and I exhibit a considerable amount more close mindedness than I would like. Of course, I'm probably unique amongst this faith for that.

[FourTael]

@FourTael The major problem, as I see it, is the close mindedness in the science community. I've often said that science is perfect; it can explain anything. However, it is limited by the scientists. Scientists can be some of the most close-minded people around, much more so than most people would believe.

All that really needs to be done is to look at the history of science, especially recent history, and you can see the absurd levels of bias. "Man of Science" almost seems like an insult.

[LogicalFlawDetector]

@metanosis

Faggot!

[ivlfounder]

@LogicalFlawDetector

Fail.

[metanosis]

@LogicalFlawDetector

Indeed, guess you could not find a logical flaw. :)

[calciumkid4eva]

Or perhaps it's rational? Oh yeah.

[Jatwas]

@amaxamon If this is your opinion, you have not understood the idea behind deductive thinking, which holds credibility in both scientific and theological study. If you disagree, try to research Quantum physics and how a particle may exist in two places simultaneously, or, simple mathematics; try telling a mathematician that 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 and proving it! (Good luck - that was sarcasm)

[1tabligh]

@Jatwas Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?

[Jatwas]

@1tabligh I'm sorry, how is this related to deductive thinking, apart from to say that they have hypothesised that these particles have these properties and found evidence of these to support these ideas? Not all of their ideas have been correct; they've rejected ideas such as the Plum Pudding model of atomic structure when they've observed that this is not the case.

[1tabligh]

@Jatwas How can it be supposed that belief in the existence of God is the acceptance of contradiction, whereas belief in the uncaused nature of an effect such as matter is not contradictory?

How could it be believed that matter should itself be the origin of millions of attributes and characteristics and thus be the equivalent of the purposeful, wise and all-knowing Creator?

[1tabligh]

Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?

[HoloArt]

At the end of his talk Polkinghorne talks about pain and suffering as being the greatest question for theology. We experience "pain" in order to imprint information on the soul of the parameters of the body. Sort of like the hammer and chisel for sculptor, teaching the soul what it's like to live in or exist in a 3 dimensional + 1 time Universe. We experience duality and separation in order to teach the soul what it means to be a separate, unique, individual.

[petehuss]

I like the cut of his jib! Style and class.