Is you nigger name really OBNOXIOUS? Your hair be ugly and nappy. Your face like a Orangutan, you have taken TOO much space at YouTube for a common negro. Please stop posting videos - we print them out and use them as toilet tissue - I wonder if those tens of thousands of leftover Ancient Black Egyptians who now live in central mother africa has toilet tissues - of course not, they don't even have toilets. Or clothing. You blacks have gone BACKWARDS from KIng Tut and Cleopatra to food stamps
very good video. I can use this to help spread the concept. I also like Nnamdi's thoughts & would like to hear more from her. She includes an analysis I think is missing in other views I read & hear. I believe, it is a theory which advances the next step in our struggle against Imperialism, capitalism, class struggle, etc. and unifies our fight for liberation, self-determination. One concept phrase missing in your dialog is "petty bourgeoisie class thinking" which you touched upon but not fully.
@adebayo African Internationalism (AFRINT) differs from Pan-Afrikanism in two key ways: 1st, the class question aka "Who will lead", is central to AFRINT. In most Pan-Afrikanist analysis, the leading role of workers and peasants in overturning parasitic white power, imperialism, is omitted/ignored. 2nd, the question of an United States of Africa is fundamental to AFRINT worldview unlike some Pan-Afrikanists theories which do not call for the unification of the continent into one government.
Great post sister, thanks for taking the time to run down the African Internationalist line. Of course you didn't touch on all the key points of the theory but you sure did represent major aspects of it!
No he hasn't. He was misquoted saying the "Cuban system" doesn't work. Communism is defined by Marxist-Leninists as "stateless, moneyless, classless" society.
Its interesting that when u were in Grenada what u discovered. In the 70s and 80's when Maurice Bishop was trying to implement some of the ideas u were mentioning, in relation to trade and aurtarky, he got shot for it. If fact during that time alot of the Caribbean were expounding alot of ur ideas, particularly with Manley in Jamaica, and Burhnam in Guyana. It would seem later though that these ideas work to the deteriment of these countries.
I agree 100%. All concerned should check out the economic empowerment strategies and philosophies of Claude Anderson PhD. His books are must reads. Powernomics and Black Labor White Wealth. Check out the videos on YouTube of Mr. Anderson as well. Go out of your way to support Black Owned Businesses. Encourage family and friends to do the same. Non-Blacks are waging economic warfare against us and we must fight back by buying Black. Teach the children business ownership. Later for jobs.
We need our own nation that is able to help Africans all around the world. Our own military force that will aide other blacks at a moment notice, our own government education systems, factories and whatever else is need to run a good infrastructure. This seems to be the only way to get things done, as long as we as a people are depending on another which do not have our best interest at hand we will forever be slaves under the control of foreign influences that do not have Africa in mind.
Indigenous Africans did practice communalism but this communalism wasn't the same as state-socialism where the state largelly controls the economy. Indigenous communalism was voluntary. Economic activity was more market oriented. Africans were free to trade and chiefs didn't dictate the value of goods being traded. This is why soviet style socialism failed in Africa. It was alien to their more market oriented ways of trading.
As far as capitalism. I think more Blacks should look at it from the prespectives of people like Booker T. Washington,Marcus Garvey and Elijah Muhammad. They saw capitalism(business ownership)as the best way for Blacks to build wealth and control it.
@CrowdPleeza capitalism has far less to do with business ownership and more to do with the control of resources. capitalism is a recent inovation in human history it has been the tool used by white folk to gain ascendency and control of the masses of humanity. unless you have the resources you cannot open a business. noi used the resources of the muslims, marcus garvey used the resources of the unia, washington was a tool of the white middle class. but a good thinker.
Socialism will of course not work if there has not even been capitalism to develop industry yet, this is basic Marx. This is not to say that the stage can't be "skipped" but it requires the right international atmosphere to do so. You can't have imperialist countries attacking and scheming around you and do this, you need solidarity from the "richer" nations (i.e. ones that are developed and former oppressors). Reparations are always good to.
@marcelthemaoist the problem is everyone always looks to marx for answers, marx did not create the concept of socialism. it predated him by thousands of years. as any economist knows it can mean manythings to many people. there are many forms with which a socialist society may take. the problems in the world are not problems of powerful nations but the aquiesence of the masses to valueless inflationary money. and debts based on colonial schemes. the imf is the worlds enemy the fed is the u.s's.
@CrowdPleeza wrong socialism is socialism. you mistake lenninism and bolshevism and what cummunism was portrayed as by the united states. market economies as westerners see it came into africa with white folk guns and rum. dont believe it? how did black folk become slaves to white folk. chiefs were convinced to trade with white folks their own people, by convincing them it was their interest to sell their people to gain acendency over their brothers through the gun. thats capitalism in action.
As far as Africans selling their own people. Africans rarely sold people from their actual tribe into slavery. They mostly sold people from rival tribes into slavery. Selling their own tribal members would only depopulate their tribe. I don't think all Black Africans viewed all other Black African as "their people" back then just because they were Black Africans.
Your right in some sense that no nation has ever been totally communist or socialist but if you consider the mechanics or epistemological problems of socialism it appears that socialism may be impossible as it cannot engage in cost calculation. This was Von Mises's contribution to the evolution of our understanding of the political economy.
"We can quantify the deaths caused by both communism and fascism, but we will never know how many deaths have been the result of capitalism; of nothing more noble than a rich man wanting to be even richer, and sacrificing the health and lives of millions of workers to achieve this. Don't even try to count how many people capitalism has killed, because not only will you not know where to begin, but also it will never end." Ludwig von Mises
why couldn't you quantify the deaths of people under capitalism ? Cost is another matter as it does not exist in cardinal form, humans do. If cost exists you need a method of calculating cost. Socialism does not provide this. Assuming you eliminate all the money on the planet you will still have cost.
Also Von Mises did say this quote you have provided.
Also there is a difference between Political capitalism and market anarchy. political capitalism is technically socialism for the rich.
@rayyf69 People who create nation states have always had (long before the Europeans) systems of trading that operated on the micro- macroeconomic levels which was natural to their culture and traditions so there is no need to get rid of money and try to re-invent the wheel.
@rayyf69 Capitalism was largely constructed out of slavery and it only views people as human resources and it defines someone market situation by their market value and it's all abstract because it never factors in the true costs on people's life chances and the environment when it is greater than the product.
1 Technically capitalism is state protection of property. Since Im a properatarian market anarchist I view capitalism, with its corporate personhood and IP laws, as socialism in the sense that the cost of protecting property is socialized, the main element of slavery is not the market order but forcing individuals to subsidize the wealth protection of the super rich or consumption of additional leisure for the poor (with regards to the welfare state).
2 I think evolutionary theory suggests that each of us views others through the prism of what we can get from that person. That we make evaluations of people based on speculative utility gain is pragmatic; its been done before capital markets ever existed. Reciprocally altruistic systems(humans) must have a means of determining if they should cooperate with an individual or not based on past outcomes. Self-deception, emotion or instinct just conceal our truly selfish nature.
3 For an individual to make ethical claims about the immorality of value statements about other individuals to me suggests the actions of a social currency seeking self-interested agent; I dont see any difference between lamentations of market axiology applied to labor and an heroin addict plunging a needle into their vein or a day-trader screaming with glee as he pulls out of an asset bubble right before it implodes.
5 But with regards to the environment, many natural resources are owned as a commons, they are socialized. The problem here is that if I abuse the commons I dont experience the loss fully because I do not own it fully. As long as you have people that have ownership rights over natural resources that do not value these resources they will deplete and abuse them. The locus of control over assets should be as concentrated as possible. Otherwise it should not surprise you when its abused.
@CrowdPleeza further in classical precolonial africa the masses of people didnt engage in trade any more than you do today. the chief was the source of outside trade. within the community people shared in common. further the cheif system was not universal in africa, many communities had no visible leadership system the men were a council from which a head man was cheif consultant. socialsim failed in africa because of imperialism. money should ultimately be abolished from the human condition.
Not only do i believe this is correct but if we consider evolutionary biology we can see that markets may actually function in extremely primitive societies though we dont' directly recognize them bcs valuations are held in memory. Contracts are enforced via inability to exit the social network and very simple communal systems make valuations easy. Efforts to graft socialism unto complex economies is a failure to understand man was always a capitalist.
" socialsim failed in africa because of imperialism. "
State-Socialism failed in Africa because it's bad economics. State-Socialism over regulates economies. Central planning doesn't work. Why do you think Julius Nyerere's collective farms failed? Why did China abandon Maoism in the 70's?
I think pan-Africanism is more interested in "Black nationalism" then class consciousness and working class unity, though I'm sure some pan-Africanists have different views and it could be blurry, I could be wrong tho.
I agree 100&. The only way things will get better for blacks is if blacks do for themselves. Cut the nonsense come together and work together. As long as we are divided we are weak. When we unite we can become a true force in this world!
I care about our brothas and sistas all over the globe as well and want to unite. We need to know how to grow our own food, make our own medicines, build our own houses etc. We need a real unified community were we control and secure our own land and resources.
This current oppressive system is set up to intentionally fail on purpose. I think that buying land in Africa like Ghana for example needs to be done while this fake currency is still in effect.
Thank you, my sister! I have been saying we as in African people are all the same no matter where we live or where we come from. I agree with you 100%. You always delivery a heavy message, some good food for thought. Stay brilliant and loved!
Is you nigger name really OBNOXIOUS? Your hair be ugly and nappy. Your face like a Orangutan, you have taken TOO much space at YouTube for a common negro. Please stop posting videos - we print them out and use them as toilet tissue - I wonder if those tens of thousands of leftover Ancient Black Egyptians who now live in central mother africa has toilet tissues - of course not, they don't even have toilets. Or clothing. You blacks have gone BACKWARDS from KIng Tut and Cleopatra to food stamps
HandsomeChristopher 8 months ago
@HandsomeChristopher
Hates gonna hate. Trolls gonna troll.
GodOfTheInternets 4 months ago
Communism
duvexy 11 months ago
socialism is good shalom
theblackjewishking85 1 year ago
very good video. I can use this to help spread the concept. I also like Nnamdi's thoughts & would like to hear more from her. She includes an analysis I think is missing in other views I read & hear. I believe, it is a theory which advances the next step in our struggle against Imperialism, capitalism, class struggle, etc. and unifies our fight for liberation, self-determination. One concept phrase missing in your dialog is "petty bourgeoisie class thinking" which you touched upon but not fully.
kuongjah7 1 year ago
@adebayo African Internationalism (AFRINT) differs from Pan-Afrikanism in two key ways: 1st, the class question aka "Who will lead", is central to AFRINT. In most Pan-Afrikanist analysis, the leading role of workers and peasants in overturning parasitic white power, imperialism, is omitted/ignored. 2nd, the question of an United States of Africa is fundamental to AFRINT worldview unlike some Pan-Afrikanists theories which do not call for the unification of the continent into one government.
Nnamdi1234 1 year ago
Great post sister, thanks for taking the time to run down the African Internationalist line. Of course you didn't touch on all the key points of the theory but you sure did represent major aspects of it!
Nnamdi1234 1 year ago
Wow, this sounds really nice. I wonder if I can start a European Internationalism movement.
Hraggleblarg 1 year ago
=)(=
7PRT7 1 year ago
SOCIALISM FOR THE WORLD!
There will be no freedom until the last Capitalist is hung with a rope made out of his blood stained stolen bank notes.
Viva la revolucion libertad para todos!
SupremePenguinTone 1 year ago
@SupremePenguinTone
Well Fidel Castro has recently acknowledged that communism doesn't work.
CrowdPleeza 1 year ago
@CrowdPleeza
No he hasn't. He was misquoted saying the "Cuban system" doesn't work. Communism is defined by Marxist-Leninists as "stateless, moneyless, classless" society.
GodOfTheInternets 4 months ago
lol, we probably are !
adebayo 1 year ago
Sista is'nt what you described just Pan-Afrikanism in a different name ?
red black green
Also where are you from in Grenda ?
I'm from carriacou !
adebayo 1 year ago
@adebayo
Petite Carenage, Carriacou. The island is so small we are probably related.
OnixIsis 1 year ago
Its interesting that when u were in Grenada what u discovered. In the 70s and 80's when Maurice Bishop was trying to implement some of the ideas u were mentioning, in relation to trade and aurtarky, he got shot for it. If fact during that time alot of the Caribbean were expounding alot of ur ideas, particularly with Manley in Jamaica, and Burhnam in Guyana. It would seem later though that these ideas work to the deteriment of these countries.
wenithboy 1 year ago
Hey I made 2 video responses but for some reason they aren't showing in your feed.
soulfulll 2 years ago
I agree 100%. All concerned should check out the economic empowerment strategies and philosophies of Claude Anderson PhD. His books are must reads. Powernomics and Black Labor White Wealth. Check out the videos on YouTube of Mr. Anderson as well. Go out of your way to support Black Owned Businesses. Encourage family and friends to do the same. Non-Blacks are waging economic warfare against us and we must fight back by buying Black. Teach the children business ownership. Later for jobs.
ResearchKnowledge123 2 years ago
We need our own nation that is able to help Africans all around the world. Our own military force that will aide other blacks at a moment notice, our own government education systems, factories and whatever else is need to run a good infrastructure. This seems to be the only way to get things done, as long as we as a people are depending on another which do not have our best interest at hand we will forever be slaves under the control of foreign influences that do not have Africa in mind.
LeoBlight 2 years ago
Indigenous Africans did practice communalism but this communalism wasn't the same as state-socialism where the state largelly controls the economy. Indigenous communalism was voluntary. Economic activity was more market oriented. Africans were free to trade and chiefs didn't dictate the value of goods being traded. This is why soviet style socialism failed in Africa. It was alien to their more market oriented ways of trading.
Look up George Ayittey
CrowdPleeza 2 years ago
This explains why the more market oriented Botswana has had Black Africa's best performing economy.
CrowdPleeza 2 years ago
As far as capitalism. I think more Blacks should look at it from the prespectives of people like Booker T. Washington,Marcus Garvey and Elijah Muhammad. They saw capitalism(business ownership)as the best way for Blacks to build wealth and control it.
CrowdPleeza 2 years ago
@CrowdPleeza capitalism has far less to do with business ownership and more to do with the control of resources. capitalism is a recent inovation in human history it has been the tool used by white folk to gain ascendency and control of the masses of humanity. unless you have the resources you cannot open a business. noi used the resources of the muslims, marcus garvey used the resources of the unia, washington was a tool of the white middle class. but a good thinker.
oldschoolsituationz 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Seretse Khama,the first president of Botswana is an African leader more people should learn about.
CrowdPleeza 2 years ago
Socialism will of course not work if there has not even been capitalism to develop industry yet, this is basic Marx. This is not to say that the stage can't be "skipped" but it requires the right international atmosphere to do so. You can't have imperialist countries attacking and scheming around you and do this, you need solidarity from the "richer" nations (i.e. ones that are developed and former oppressors). Reparations are always good to.
marcelthemaoist 2 years ago
@marcelthemaoist the problem is everyone always looks to marx for answers, marx did not create the concept of socialism. it predated him by thousands of years. as any economist knows it can mean manythings to many people. there are many forms with which a socialist society may take. the problems in the world are not problems of powerful nations but the aquiesence of the masses to valueless inflationary money. and debts based on colonial schemes. the imf is the worlds enemy the fed is the u.s's.
oldschoolsituationz 2 years ago
word?
1Mumiaabujamal 2 years ago
@CrowdPleeza wrong socialism is socialism. you mistake lenninism and bolshevism and what cummunism was portrayed as by the united states. market economies as westerners see it came into africa with white folk guns and rum. dont believe it? how did black folk become slaves to white folk. chiefs were convinced to trade with white folks their own people, by convincing them it was their interest to sell their people to gain acendency over their brothers through the gun. thats capitalism in action.
oldschoolsituationz 2 years ago
@Oldschool,
As far as Africans selling their own people. Africans rarely sold people from their actual tribe into slavery. They mostly sold people from rival tribes into slavery. Selling their own tribal members would only depopulate their tribe. I don't think all Black Africans viewed all other Black African as "their people" back then just because they were Black Africans.
CrowdPleeza 2 years ago
Your right in some sense that no nation has ever been totally communist or socialist but if you consider the mechanics or epistemological problems of socialism it appears that socialism may be impossible as it cannot engage in cost calculation. This was Von Mises's contribution to the evolution of our understanding of the political economy.
rayyf69 2 years ago
"We can quantify the deaths caused by both communism and fascism, but we will never know how many deaths have been the result of capitalism; of nothing more noble than a rich man wanting to be even richer, and sacrificing the health and lives of millions of workers to achieve this. Don't even try to count how many people capitalism has killed, because not only will you not know where to begin, but also it will never end." Ludwig von Mises
gzX9bVq6k 2 years ago
why couldn't you quantify the deaths of people under capitalism ? Cost is another matter as it does not exist in cardinal form, humans do. If cost exists you need a method of calculating cost. Socialism does not provide this. Assuming you eliminate all the money on the planet you will still have cost.
Also Von Mises did say this quote you have provided.
Also there is a difference between Political capitalism and market anarchy. political capitalism is technically socialism for the rich.
rayyf69 2 years ago
correction, i cannot find a reference for this von mises quote.
rayyf69 2 years ago
@rayyf69 People who create nation states have always had (long before the Europeans) systems of trading that operated on the micro- macroeconomic levels which was natural to their culture and traditions so there is no need to get rid of money and try to re-invent the wheel.
gzX9bVq6k 2 years ago
@rayyf69 Capitalism was largely constructed out of slavery and it only views people as human resources and it defines someone market situation by their market value and it's all abstract because it never factors in the true costs on people's life chances and the environment when it is greater than the product.
gzX9bVq6k 2 years ago
1 Technically capitalism is state protection of property. Since Im a properatarian market anarchist I view capitalism, with its corporate personhood and IP laws, as socialism in the sense that the cost of protecting property is socialized, the main element of slavery is not the market order but forcing individuals to subsidize the wealth protection of the super rich or consumption of additional leisure for the poor (with regards to the welfare state).
rayyf69 2 years ago
2 I think evolutionary theory suggests that each of us views others through the prism of what we can get from that person. That we make evaluations of people based on speculative utility gain is pragmatic; its been done before capital markets ever existed. Reciprocally altruistic systems(humans) must have a means of determining if they should cooperate with an individual or not based on past outcomes. Self-deception, emotion or instinct just conceal our truly selfish nature.
rayyf69 2 years ago
3 For an individual to make ethical claims about the immorality of value statements about other individuals to me suggests the actions of a social currency seeking self-interested agent; I dont see any difference between lamentations of market axiology applied to labor and an heroin addict plunging a needle into their vein or a day-trader screaming with glee as he pulls out of an asset bubble right before it implodes.
rayyf69 2 years ago
4 Im not sure what you mean by market situation. I believe value is subjective, not intrinsic or objective. Im not sure what a life chance is.
rayyf69 2 years ago
5 But with regards to the environment, many natural resources are owned as a commons, they are socialized. The problem here is that if I abuse the commons I dont experience the loss fully because I do not own it fully. As long as you have people that have ownership rights over natural resources that do not value these resources they will deplete and abuse them. The locus of control over assets should be as concentrated as possible. Otherwise it should not surprise you when its abused.
rayyf69 2 years ago
@CrowdPleeza further in classical precolonial africa the masses of people didnt engage in trade any more than you do today. the chief was the source of outside trade. within the community people shared in common. further the cheif system was not universal in africa, many communities had no visible leadership system the men were a council from which a head man was cheif consultant. socialsim failed in africa because of imperialism. money should ultimately be abolished from the human condition.
oldschoolsituationz 2 years ago
Google these if you have the time. They're by George Ayittey:
Free Markets not Alien to Africa
The concept of wealth in traditional Africa
CrowdPleeza 2 years ago
Not only do i believe this is correct but if we consider evolutionary biology we can see that markets may actually function in extremely primitive societies though we dont' directly recognize them bcs valuations are held in memory. Contracts are enforced via inability to exit the social network and very simple communal systems make valuations easy. Efforts to graft socialism unto complex economies is a failure to understand man was always a capitalist.
rayyf69 2 years ago
" socialsim failed in africa because of imperialism. "
State-Socialism failed in Africa because it's bad economics. State-Socialism over regulates economies. Central planning doesn't work. Why do you think Julius Nyerere's collective farms failed? Why did China abandon Maoism in the 70's?
CrowdPleeza 2 years ago
I still don't see much difference between pan-africanism and being an african internationalist. Both seem good to me, though.
1Mumiaabujamal 2 years ago
I think pan-Africanism is more interested in "Black nationalism" then class consciousness and working class unity, though I'm sure some pan-Africanists have different views and it could be blurry, I could be wrong tho.
marcelthemaoist 2 years ago
true, true
1Mumiaabujamal 2 years ago
black s need to wakeup
fnstpl 2 years ago
I agree 100&. The only way things will get better for blacks is if blacks do for themselves. Cut the nonsense come together and work together. As long as we are divided we are weak. When we unite we can become a true force in this world!
LeoBlight 2 years ago 4
I care about our brothas and sistas all over the globe as well and want to unite. We need to know how to grow our own food, make our own medicines, build our own houses etc. We need a real unified community were we control and secure our own land and resources.
This current oppressive system is set up to intentionally fail on purpose. I think that buying land in Africa like Ghana for example needs to be done while this fake currency is still in effect.
Peace and Blessings Beautiful Queen
OmniverseDimensions 2 years ago 7
Buying land from "who" in Ghana?
1Mumiaabujamal 2 years ago
Ghana is giving us free land as Reparations go to my page to check it out or look up fihankra international!
RBGUERILLA 2 years ago
Great Breakdown Queen!
RBGUERILLA 2 years ago
Thank you, my sister! I have been saying we as in African people are all the same no matter where we live or where we come from. I agree with you 100%. You always delivery a heavy message, some good food for thought. Stay brilliant and loved!
Spirituallyfree 2 years ago 4