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  • the priests at our parish always wanted us 2 talk about masterbatin...i told my my mom and now we dont go 2 mass no mor...i gess its just the way they r

  • lol jew

  • Unfortunately, the sexual abuse is only part of the story. What about the emotional abuse in every aspect of the cult activities? Children are not allowed to be children, Lovers are denied freedom. Broken relationships are denied solutions, Women are denied the joys of sex. In every aspect of church activity, self denial is promoted to the point of Narcissism at extreme disorderred levels.

  • I agree. Religion has nothing to do with morality.

  • Faith in any man-made 501c3 corporate church is futile. Man is wicked, and his fruits will always reveal him to be such. Seeking Jesus Christ with all of one's heart, and faith in salvation through Him alone is all that's required. Putting any human or religious organization in between yourself and Jesus Christ, is like asking for a detour straight to hell. Christ alone paid the price for my sins. One should put NO faith in fallible humans.

  • Thanks for making this video. Frankly I am astonished you found polite words of any sort to tackle the subject - one which leaves me, an ex-Catholic, speechless with rage and frustration about the sinister and twisted mentality behind the church.  As you rightly say, what possible basis has the church for telling us anything about a moral - let alone respectable - life, when this is how they act behind closed doors. 5* + subscription.

  • some amazingly lightweight comments on a valuable substantial reasoned contribution by jack

  • In my estimation, the funniest thing about infallibility is _ RCC is infallible when it comes to being wrong & in error.

    What a debased and deceptive System.

  • How to make a Plastercast for religious purposes.

    First get some modelling plaster, add water stir and mould it into a human figure

    Subject to intense heat and allow to harden

    Now paint it with modelling paint & allow to dry

    Move it to a grotto or church & mount it on a pedestal get it blessed by a priest

    Garnish it with flowers & light candles to it

    Now encourage people to come & pray to it and petition it

    Now you have another mediator to help you

    Surely this is not Idolatry ? OR IS IT ?

  • @glizag Surely you don't think this is what Catholic's do... I'm so sorry that you think this.

    We would never pray to or adore any statue or image... We only Pray to the Almighty God and then the saints is another story... if you want to find out then do some research and not just from some anti-catholic sources

  • So you are saying that there are no statues in your churches of Mary, garnised with flowers, and candles lighting underneath it?

    In every RC Church there are statues of Mary, with people praying before it, petitioning Mary through the statue, in reality its just a disgusting form of idolatry.

    You are to pray to God alone through Jesus Christ, as there is only One Mediator, if Mary was a mediator also, then there would be two mediators, if you include all the saints then there would be millions.

  • @glizag the statue or image is just that! a statue! made out of clay or i don't even know what! they are neither God nor a person we do not pray to the statue we do not adore statues they are there for our eyes and for the Glory of God...

    There is indeed only one mediator between us and God, Jesus! meaning that the only reason God would even listen to us, is because of his son Jesus because he is our mediator no that doesn't make mary as high as jesus, it's like me praying for u or is that bad?

  • If you dont pray to statues or through statues then statues are un necessary so you dont need statues

    if you insist on keeping statues that are lifeless ans useless & un necessary, then I also insist that because you want to keep them ~ you have them as idolatrous objects in order to mediate through them

    There is no other reason or purpose for these lifeless objects, if you insist that they remind you of Mary, how can they, when you have never even met her

    Drop the statues and go direct to God

  • @glizag In just the same way as a person might have a picture or photograph of a loved one in order to remind him or her of their friend or family member, so to do Catholics use statues as a reminder and a focus when praying to a saint, angel or God. In addition to the beautifying of our places of worship by the use of liturgical art, it serves a very practical purpose of reminding us. However, Catholics do not pray to the statues themselves but rather to the people who are presented by them.

  • That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard I have photos of my loved ones, but I do not garnish them with flowers, & light candles to them that would be IDOLATRY

    You never met Mary so how can they possibly be reminders that is an idiotic explanation, & its also illogical.

    The second commandment forbids the making of graven images in connection with worship, Exodus 20:4-5, catholics chose to ignore this commandment & continue to flaunt their idolatry in the face of God, I find that unbelievable

  • @glizag we never met Jesus... but we remember what he's done for us... he even told us to remember him..

  • @glizag and i asked you... is it wrong for me to ask yo to pray for me...? If i came to you and said "will you pray for me?" will you say "DAMN CATHOLIC! Go directly to GOD don't ask me!" i certainly hope not... well that's the idea behind so called "praying" to saints... we ask that they may pray and help us since they are in the beatific vision of heaven

  • Praying for me or me praying for you is different than asking those gone from this earth to be Mediators since Mary cannot hear millions of prayers at the same time simply because she is a creature created by God if she could then it would make her Divine can you not understand this point? Mary is not divine

    Nowhere are we told to pray to anyone except to God why do something that is not even talked about in scripture

    If I prayed to Mary I would be saying that going through Jesus is not enough

  • @glizag In revelations we are told the saints are with the lamb where ever he is. You don't understand what makes God Divine. It goes far beyond any "abilities" he has. Before Christ there were no saints. when the bible was written the first saints/martyrs where still alive but the church soon made it part of what it meant to be christian. to be in communion with the saints, the church in heaven, purgatory and earth.

  • Again we are never told to pray to those who have left this earth is praying to Jesus alone not sufficient?

    God can hear all prayers mary connot this is just one attribute of God, & Mary does not possess it.

    Being alive in heaven does not necessarily mean that we are to pray to those who have left this life, why attempt to burden them with our requests when Jesus taught us how to pray and who to pray too, OUR FATHER, thats the model prayer, not hail mary, which is only an angelic greeting anyway

  • @glizag Praying to Jesus is different then praying to the saints. I pay my electric bill why do i have to pay my water bill isn't my electric bill enough... that's the argument you make... the two are different. It has nothing todo with diminishing Jesus rather Glorifying him more. The saints are saints because they did just that. I'm sure it's no burden... they are in the Glory of heaven why would they feel burden Again it's not diminishing Jesus in anyway the saints are NOTHING without Jesus!

  • we are the saints and are not to make any graven image

  • @nodoubt257 I have tried explaining why it is not a graven image... at least how we incorporate it to our spirituality now explain to me what is a graven image... i'm sure you don't know and if you do... i can assure you we do not have graven images

  • try reading the bible, the bible explains what a graven image is and all you're doing is denying what you do. God sees it clearly and so does the world. You are not fooling anybody

  • @nodoubt257 You act as if the Catholic Church has not read the bible... I deny the lies spewed out from people that attack the church. I stand up for every single doctrine and dogma the Holy Catholic Church teaches because it only teaches with the authority of the Holy Spirit. I would die for any Dogma of the church for it is dying for Christ himself.

  • Would you even stand up for the doctrine of anti-semetism that was official church doctrine until the 1960s?

    Do you stand up for the doctrine of saying condom use in Africa is immoral and that it increases the chance of HIV?

    This is clearly a lie and yet the church propagates it as if it were truth and you stand idly by and let it happen. You should be ashamed of yourself!

  • @CrosshairJack The church and society in general has been anti-semitic I'll admit... but we did help the Jews during WWII... the pope played a great part in helping thousands of jews. Yes using condoms is immoral... but the major reason for aids in africa is the rape and violence... we can't just use a condom it's like a band-aid.. and do u expect rapist to use condoms?

    I am ashamed indeed I am... because I am a sinner and should do more to help my brothers and sisters. do you do enough?

  • You miss the point about the condoms. The catholic church preachers in Africa say that condoms cause the spread of HIV. They are totally lying to the people.

    Also about the pope helping Jews is not entirely accurate. Actually you'll find that the catholic church prayed for Hitler on his birthday every year until the very end.

    They still haven't apologised enough for this!

  • @CrosshairJack haha you buy into the anti-catholic propaganda in the news... the church doesn't teach that condoms spread aids... but it does open up the promisquity of ppl and condoms won't solve the AIDS epidemic .

    and the condoms things i'm not an expert on but about the Jews, you sir are wrong IF you say that the church did not help the Jews and even condemn Nazi germany/hitler... but Why wouldn't we pray for our enemies?

  • I didn't say that they DIDN'T help. I said the point you made wasn't accurate.

    And yes, condoms wont stop the AIDS epidemic but it sure would be a big help.

  • @CrosshairJack well that's the point... saying it's inaccurate means that your saying the church didn't help...

  • No it doesn't. By saying it was inaccurate means that you mentioned the bit about the church helping but forgot to mention the other bit.

  • @CrosshairJack Inaccurate: adj. mistaken or incorrect. not accurate...

    You could have chosen another word for what you were trying to say... inaccurate was teh wrong choice or words... because my point was 100% accurate. The church DID help the jews. that's a fact. you could have said "well they might have helped them but they also did.... etc etc etc"

    either way you concede to my point that the church helped.

  • that is a lie you(your church) helped Hitler.Your church was faced with a choice. It was either help him or die and your church chose to help Hitler. There were individual Catholics that helped Jews. But as a whole the Church's position was for Hitler

  • @nodoubt257 Please read into history... and read about the Mit brennender Sorge, a catholic encyclical by Pope Pius XI written in German, it was read from all German catholic churches. it condemned breaches of an agreement signed between Nazi germany and the church, and included criticism of Nazi ideology, and of Nazism and Hitler.

  • catholicam-Good for you all that means is you choose your church over Christ. I choose Christ over ALL. You can not say that because your church means too much to you and you really on your church NOT Christ.

  • @nodoubt257 I love the Lord our God above all... and I will die for all that he has reavealed to us... I will not give into heretical pracitces of protestants or abominable practices of pagans.. God Bless you and if you truly wish to know about the church do some research... above all ask God that IF just IF the Catholic Church is the True Church which he establish... as him that you may be able to accept it... again God Bless you

  • 1. I have done the research. 2, I know the history of the Church 3. I researched and know because God convicted me to do so BECAUSE I had no opinion about the history of Pagan or Papal Rome and He does have people in there. Do you know what I mean when I tell you that God has people in that system? "Come out of her my people and be not partakers of her sins" I made two videos and will be making a third about this because God has led me into this direction. He hates the Church system.

  • @nodoubt257 so do you concede to the fact that the church did help the jews?

    Venerable Cardinal Newman once said: To be immersed in history is to cease to be Protestant.

    Truly do research without your preconceived notions.

    Lord Have Mercy on us... Especially me a poor humble servant of the Lord.

    -Laudetur Jesus Christus

  • of course a cardinal would say that? Would Tyndale or Luther say that? Duh, no. Keep on sticking up for the Church because that is what you will do until Christ returns and then you will finally see the Truth. The Church is blasphemous against God and His Christ. If you can't see that, then you are blind to God's Word.

    Why would I concede to that?

  • @nodoubt257 hahaha of course you don't know who Cardinal Newman is hahaha i thought you've done research? cardinal newman is the greatest example of a convert becoming a strong prince of the church...

    I stick up for the church because it is the spouse of Christ and it belongs to Christ... I stick up for Christ Gospel.

    God bless you... maybe one day you'll come home to the church...

    I asked you if you concede to the fact that the church helped the Jews which has nothing to do with anything else.

  • not according to most holy family monestary

  • @nodoubt257 LMAO! them schismatics are worse than protestants...!

    hahahahahahahaha

    they think they're catholic with their "holier than thou attitude" o please!!!

    The Church has many enemies... because satan wants it to fail... but it won't... for God does not break his promises... "If God is for us... who can be against us"

  • There's no such thing as satan

  • @CrosshairJack Of course... to a person who doesn't believe in God... there's no such thing as satan... okaay... your point?

    Satan is real.... of course he isn't all to blame for what's wrong with this world... sometimes people are just EVIL... what's that old saying "lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink..."

  • @CrosshairJack and if I may add.. "the greatest trick satan has ever pulled is convincing the world he does not exist"

  • Yet you seem to think he does. Fair enough.

  • @catholicam the greatest trick the catholic church ever pulled is convincing the world they were not founded by satan

  • @MONGOLMARIGUANO God Bless you and have mercy on you.

  • @catholicam .........LOL......WHATEREVER..­..LOL

  • @catholicam bahahaha

  • Umm, do you know what those letters stand for (lmao)? Wow, thanks for proving my point about the Catholic attitude in general.

  • @nodoubt257 o calm down... God Bless you... All you do is ad hominem arguments... meaning personally attacking the person...

    Please I've tried presenting you with my arguments in favor of the Church and just hope that one day you'll come home... that's it... something as silly as lmao... should not matter... If it hurt you in any way I am deeply sorry... and it's just my computer lazyness i suppose... sorry... i could have put lol or just haha....

    The Lord be with you on your journey to him...

  • catholicam, you're clueless and choose to be ignorant

  • @nodoubt257 again ad hominem attacks? Peace be with you.

  • Catholicism is corrupt, was always corrupt, & will continue to be corrupt until God destroys this false System

    This is only the tip of the iceberg in abuse there is a lot more that will be exposed before much longer

    Catholicism is a pagan, corrupt, cult with no chance of salvation within it

    If you are catholic, the best thing that you can do is get out of this useless system with its horrific history

    I believe that the Vatican should be sued for the antics of its clergy, and these priests jailed

  • @glizag may god have mercy on you... but I agree that the Church should be purged from within not from without... by God not by anti-catholic and in essence anti-Christs church...

    The Holy Catholic Church will not fall for God does not break his promises

  • The SYSTEM should be held to account for its perversions throughout history, Vatican had its chance at cleaning up all this, but what did the Vatican do, tell its parish priests to move these perverted priests around to other parishes, I call that DECEPTION

    The Vatican did nothing for years, and I say again its perverted priests should be jailed, and its head the Pope sued

    RCC history speaks for itself, look at this anti christ on his throne, wealthy, and claiming to be Gods vicar, what a joke.

  • I'm a Catholic and will be one till I die. and Yes I believe the Church acted wrongly on this issue along with other officials(cops etc.) who knew of this abuse and others around the world...... it is wrong... and???

    Does that mean the whole of Christianity is wrong... or at least the Catholic church... no of course not... just the governing officials acted *at the risk of sacrilige* they acted stupidly! O well! move on! It's out! let the law handle itand hopefully the church learned a lesson

  • In my opinion Christianity is wrong, I don't think there is any truth to any of it.

  • Christianity isn't wrong... Christians are wrong... unless you speak of the actual doctrines and beliefs then that your opinion... and Well there you go more power to ya!

    I'll of course pray and hope u change ur mind... God Bless...

  • I'll happily change my mind when the God of your religion presents himself to me. Considering that he is the creator of the universe then that shouldn't be a difficult task.

    Peace.

  • haha... presents himself? like out of nowhere there's a voice that goes... umm "hello... this is God" hmm... lol

    Well I hope you don't wait till then... because it might be too late...

  • No, you miss understand my point.

    Surely an all knowing, all powerful being would know what it would take for me to believe that it exists.

    Knowing this, why doesn't this being just do it?

  • As a Christian I belief that God has tried... even to the point of the incarnation of the 2nd person of the holy Trinity meaning God became man... and people still didn't believe... Even if you had a vision of Jesus or something... Why would I or anyone believe you??? If you have an open heart...you might be surprised how God shows that he is real.

  • "An open heart"? I don't really listen to emotional appeals. The last time I checked my heart does nothing except pump blood around my body.

  • haha symbolicly of course... you know that haha maybe open mind would be a better phrasing?

    The Catholic faith shouldn't just appeal to your emotions... the catholic faith is something real, and should appeal to reason accompanied with faith of course...

  • Down with this sort of thing!

  • "The Church was putting its own reputation ahead of the children they were supposed to be taking care of".

    I'm shocked -- **shocked** -- to hear there was child abuse among the priests, and that they covered it up. Huh. Who knew?

  • Great vid mate, thanks. Signed a brother atheist-and Irish too!

  • The Catholic Church should disband now..it is a peadohile ring and always has been!!

  • no more religion of any kind.........it's totally corrupting in its self righteousness.

  • No, BBC.

  • Damn, if it weren't for Christianity we would have no morality at all, you know. :):):)

    No organization that produces and protects this kind of betrayal and abuse is in a position to tell me ANY thing about how I should live or think or what I should believe. To jail with these criminals.

  • I walked out of the Catholic church forever as a 7th grader. During Confirmation class the priest showd us that priests were "normal" by hoping on one foot, spinning in a circle yelling out "Fuck, shit" over and over again.

    My parents had a fit that I walked out. The reason was I needed a place to be married and buried.

  • Damn straight, I agree with you.

    I have to say that I would have been more surprised if the news would have been "Catholic church did NOT cover up child abuse". I mean this bit of news is the norm with these people. Child abusing catholic priest is a fucking cliché for crying out loud!

  • Do these things happen in Catholic day cares or Sunday schools?

  • @ThaGMan51 this is generations old, and it's always been about getting the church to admit, these people have fought for years, it;s only now that it's 'released', that it's breaking news.. this is going back 2 - 3 generations, not local sunday kick in the park.. finally they admitted, the abuse is not the news, the admittance is.. good vid man..

  • Doesn't the police investigate this at all? Or do they just turn a blind eye?

  • @ThaGMan51 this is not about 'now', this is an investigation going back over 60 years, that took 9 years to complete, during this, the church refused to admit the figures, until now, nearly 10 yrs since the start, it's old news, & if you click the link in the same headline, you can see its an update of last may.. & this is about 2000 complaints, over 60 yts period, lasting nearly 10yrs,, not shock horror breaking news.. it's just an admittance of whats being claimed by victims for decades..

  • The police covered up the abuse of children to protect the priests/church. This vid is correct......the reputation of the church was regarded as more important than the protection of children......These so called "priests" should all locked away for ever and the catholic church expelled from Ireland.....too long we have been a priest-r5idden society....with their self protecting self righteous hypocricy. Religion is based on a very sinister set of beliefs/values. I fully agree with this vid.

  • who said it wasn't correct?

  • no one said it wasn't correct....i'm only agreeing !

  • cool, thumbs up! :)

  • rick this is a news report, off the BBC website. you are more or less obliged to agree with it, as do I, & most others who trust the BBC world news, you see, my comments, were related to comments, & as I am in Ireland, & I have been aware of this my whole life, I am glad to finally see it being admitted by the church, & I personally thank the people who promote this, my comments with another, seperate from video content, I am glad we all agree with this video. It's 'not' agreeing thats scary/

  • My mum's a catholic, she acknowledges this stuff has happened and is really bad, but she doesn't question the institution of the church at all. She's a Catholic because she's a Catholic and I guess that's the way millions of Catholics think (or not!)

  • I do NOT understand why catholics are NOT leaving their religion on HORDES!

  • Catholic indoctrination is strong, clearly.

  • the only difference between modern day cults and the ancient desert ones is time, just because they have been going on for thousands of years doesn't make them any less dangerous, all through history they have abused the people that follow them, they carry on in there abusive ways because they have been dressed up as "safe" all the religions use fear to control their followers the fear of eternal torment and its just bullshit.

  • I was disgusted by all of it, but even more because the police basically did jack shit. The catholic church has no fucking shame in what they do.

  • unfort this time of abuse has gone on since the beginning makes your skin crawl when you think about all the innocent people hurt by these disgusting men in holy robes! YUCK!!!!!!! I pray for the day when we won't need religion anymore ICKY!!

  • the day that we don't need religion is already here - we technically don't need religion now its just most of the theists don't realise it

  • it's sad because till that day comes people still fall victims to these institutions who brainwash and keep them enslaved in their own minds icky!..Glad I deprogrammed any such belief's outta my life!...it's sorta like the MATRIX everyone is still enslaved but only a lucky few get out and see the world for what it is!!!

  • There's lots of cases where the Catholic church covered up child abuse. Several documentaries have been made on the subject(Deliver Us From Evil is the first one that comes to mind).

  • its disgraceful, to put it mildly. agree with all points you raised.

  • holy ireland my fuck great video bro

  • Police..? That is... I am out of words.

  • Was just reading this earlier - absolutely disgusting. Bastards.

    One of the many things that upsets me about organised religion..

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