ROM 3: Winners Semis - Dr.PeePee(Falco) vs KirbyKaze(Sheik)Set 1 Part 1

[Savipalooza]

8:28 - 8:33 THE SPACING

[daveparkk]

1. m2k 2. amsah 3. ice

[tolla02]

@daveparkk amsah is first

[daveparkk]

@tolla02 amsah last

[Nyckid64]

Video is mistitled.

[likemy]

omg I can't stop watching that first stock from game 4, fucking incredible tech chasing by KK

[likemy]

If you could combine KK's platform game, Tope's tech chasing, Amsah's punishes / combos, and M2K's edgeguards, you'd get not only the best sheik ever, but probably the guy who gets sheik banned from tournaments

[tristan2177]

i think sheiks better.. gets raped

[oOKazeOo]

I think is 50 - 50 falco vs sheik,falco combos are deadly but sheik can kill him out of the platform grab + eat falco jump and fakco is dead, if sheik start a combo con falco hold your breath. I thinks fox is the most harder match for sheik 1 shine out of the platform and your dead. and fox can make more pressure on sheik than falco on sheik.

[emobangs03]

let me rephrase that: i watched the first minute then clicked on a different video

[emobangs03]

wow, this was the first video of peepee i ever saw. i thought he sucked ass. watching other videos, i definitely know i was wrong

[MrJemayel]

I like ur fair peepee :)

[Mrihatebunnies]

They meant now adays.

[thefreymeister]

jesus, how has this discussion of good sheiks passed without someone mentioning KDJ or Captain Jack?

remember that time KDJ raped M2K's fox in a tournament? yeah, so does M2K.

[BulletKing009]

that match on stadium has some fucking amazingly creative falco shit. Take notes Falco players. jesus christ

[PlayerPandu]

When I think of sheik... in no order:

Amsah

M2K

Lucien

Kirbykaze

Tope

Actually... In THAT order imo.

Then again M2K needs to start caring again.

[SparkSSBM]

@PlayerPandu no love for drephen :(

[BSeeD06]

@PlayerPandu Lol thought i was the one thinking about this order...

[Krazyknux]

13:39, once Dr. Peepee learns how to shine-bair out of shield, he'll be unstoppable, lol.

[SilverShadow02]

what about:

m2k, amsah, overtriforce?

i think they're way nastier than the shieks you named, no offense waffles

[SmashVelox]

Wow, Dr. Peepee with a Sheik weakness.

Sheik was like f-tilt f-tilt slap slap

[BuzzcutsFTW]

at 9:20 the first hitbox of falcos fair was to the right of sheik, didnt know if u knew that or u were just playin

[PsychoDoughBoy88]

who's better at sheik dittos is stupid

sheik dittos almost never come up in tournament

[MacDsmash]

@PsychoDoughBoy88 hahahahhahahhahhahahahahhaa

[hypertailschao]

lol @ amsah having the "burden of proof", he has one of the most impressive tournament records in the world.

[tehIcy]

Top 3 Sheiks are Amsah, Mew2King and Overtriforce.

[paralasalud]

lol IRL turnip pull 6:34?

[OdinsLoaf]

9:26 is for sure going in kirby's combo video if he maks one lol

[sonichaven]

where do most of these tourneys take place? new york?

[ssbmStasis]

@sonichaven California and Tristate (NY, NJ, PA) are the biggest tournament hotspots in the US I think. And then after those two, the South.

[Silventhal]

lucien? what?

[ghost245353]

"Let that b*tch breath!"

Sheik: (does Drake) AGH

[WojIsWin]

lol m2k and amsah sheiks? love you HMW but a little off on that one haha

[BuIIetBilI]

combo to sweetspotted upsmash :0 very very nice Kirbykaze

[boooshk]

LOL at the drake impersonation AHAH

[SwiftKai]

sheik vs falco is in shieks favor? I suppose after u watch amsah vs zhu, u'd start to think so too. lol

[MehTahNite]

u see em play at pound, these 2?

no

kirbykaze got shitted on

ouch

*closes firefox*

[siris10101]

My god that first stock on PeePee in the third match was crazy. KirbyKaze too good.

[SarsPirate]

lol Drake vs J Cole

Young money vs the roc

[JoylessAlbatross]

population of toronto (GTA): about 5 million

population of canada: about 34 million

[OmegaFujin]

Waffles must have watched too much Amsah, because everyone knows that Falco whops Sheiks azz. Even M2K gets beat by Falco's. PC Chris can still beat M2K's sheik with falco.

[TheOnlyGBeast]

some of the related videos for PP's matches are fuckin weird

[ThatAintFalco90]

I agree with you Waffles, it looks like the matchup is in sheiks favor.

[Hazygoose]

@1:47 lol

[xxANBUxx]

Amash is not even close to being on m2k's level of play.

[RadicallyDreaming]

@xxANBUxx That's because this mysterious "Amash" is not a known smash player.

Amsah on the other hand is the best Sheik player in the world.

[SubakkuNoGaara]

@RadicallyDreaming I agree. He makes the worst matchups for Sheik seem like child's play, i.e. Falco, and also his style is very good. Very fluid if I say, while m2k is well....I don't like his Sheik, but hey that's just my opinion.

[1ruroken]

@SubakkuNoGaara Falco vs. Sheik is even.

[Purtle28Patrick]

damnnnn kirby.

[Entar0adum]

lol amsah is by far the best sheik -.-, m2k is second

[1ruroken]

@Entar0adum Got any proof? Sheik dittos amsah won? Tournaments were amsah ran through tougher opponents with sheik?

[debaser247]

@1ruroken

dude, there are so many Amsah sheik ditto vids it's ridiculous. there's a whole compilation video of Amsah vs. Captain Jack sheik ditto tournament matches. Captain Jack. He was playing sheik competitively while you were watching Digimon season 2 in your pjs on saturday mornings. Amsah has beaten him in sheik dittos in tournament at least more than once.

[1ruroken]

@debaser247 Ken beat Azen in Marth dittos 4 year ago. Does that mean he's the best player now? Of course not. Your argument is ridiculous. When was the last time captain jack went to a major? Shut the fuck up.

[debaser247]

@1ruroken

well, my point is, amsah is good.

[1ruroken]

@debaser247 I agree. I'm just of the opinion that m2k's sheik is better.There is very little evidence for either one of them, and they are indisputably the two best sheiks in the world.

[1ruroken]

@debaser247 Oh I meant sheik dittos with m2k, but i see how you could have misunderstood that.

[RadicallyDreaming]

@1ruroken Got any proof M2K is better? No? Then shut the fuck up.

[1ruroken]

@RadicallyDreaming Eauropean smashers have the burden of proof.

[gmjacks]

@1ruroken How come? At the one tournament both have been at, Amsah outplaced M2K and beat Armada, who in turn had jut knocked out M2K. Very thin evidence, but none suggesting M2K is clearly better.

[1ruroken]

@gmjacks Thats true of course, but ARmada plays amsah much more often than m2k does. In turn, m2k plays people like silentspectre more often, and armada lost to him. So no, I don't have evidence m2k is better, but amsah has the burden of proof, and the evidence for him as you said is quite thin.

[gmjacks]

@1ruroken There is no evidence M2K is better at all. Playing certain people more does not skew the results, as both players will learn from each other. We both seem to agree that there is no real evidence that one is better than the other. How you then jump to M2K being better by default is what I'm not getting.

[1ruroken]

@gmjacks I geuss your right about the two players learning from each other. He is better by default because amsah has only been to one tournament in the U.S., while m2k has been to hundreds. Amsah had an impressive group of wins at pound, Jman, Zhu, and Tope is outstanding, but its only happened once. Once he proves that he can do it tourney in and tourney out like m2k has, he'll be even with him until they play head to head in tournament. I just don't understand why everyone thinks he is

[gmjacks]

@1ruroken Because there are tournaments outside the USA, and he wins/comes second to Armada in pretty much everything he enters in Europe.

[1ruroken]

@gmjacks It's obvious that there are tournaments outside the US. But the highest level of play is in the states because that's where the money is.

[1ruroken]

@gmjacks on par with m2k after one tournament.

[SubakkuNoGaara]

@1ruroken Dittos in any fighting never prove anything.

[1ruroken]

@SubakkuNoGaara Explain how dittos don't prove anything to me.

[GCLU]

@1ruroken

Sheik ditto

Chain grab, chain grab ,chain grab, I win.

Jigglypuff ditto:

Who can b-air to play this matchup?

its how people do vs. all characters, not just 1.

[1ruroken]

@GCLU Thats not logical at all. If both people can chaingrab, its still fair. Also, the ditto is sheiks only indisputably even matchup. When they are as even as these two are and one or the other wins a sheik ditto, it will go a long way towards proving they are the better sheik.

[GCLU]

@1ruroken

With the exception of things like this in which winner's finals was sheik dittos or something similar to this, Dittos only refer to one matchup.

If one person was let's say a Sheik user who was terrible vs. Marth, Fox, and Falco but was the best sheik vs. other sheik's, who would place better? It would be the Sheik that knows other matchups. The shiek who knows the other matchups would be the sheik that places well, not the one who just knows how to Ditto.

[1ruroken]

@GCLU Are you disputing my assertion that the better player wins when two people play each other?

[GCLU]

@1ruroken

I am disputing your assertion that the better player is automatically better in dittos.

[1ruroken]

@GCLU Never asserted.

[1ruroken]

@GCLU The only reason I said Sheik ditto in that first comment was to specify that m2k was using sheik instead of Fox or Marth, because obviously a match m2k won without using sheik would not do anything to prove he was a better sheik.

[flame6753]

@Entar0adum LOL

[xXxNoobKingxXx]

david you rape!!! <3

[Linguini66]

LOL chops at the end, "he kicked that nigga in the head"

[stabbedbyahippie]

LOL @ the beggining 

[quesote20]

the end of 3rd round was amazing, KK didn't rushed at all, waited for an opening and won, really nice =)

[TacticsRamza]

But if only KDJ was here...

[keatstalol]

j. cole would school drake, no contest man.

[pontasaurus]

Most hype'd match in quite a while. KirbyKaze played mad good and so did PP.

Too good.

[davidealessio]

kirbykaze has a good potential when he is clever and concentrate

[m00m00m001]

9:00 waffles i couldn't disagree more

[daveytwelve]

which character do you think is the best, hmw? in the game?

[Acherontic1]

lol that sheik's favor-comment couldn't come at any worse moment lol... just after KK was starting to do really well.. I mean come on

[xxANBUxx]

When I think of sheik I think of m2k.

[strawhats100]

@xxANBUxx actually when i thnk of sheik to this day its still kdj...when i think of m2k i think marth/fox.

[Acherontic1]

@xxANBUxx if one name should be mentioned for Sheik, it should be Amsah. Period.

[fpsanth]

Drake pulled out the chain!

[unknown522]

damn david

[TwinA505]

In your guys' list of top Sheiks you forgot Amsah and Twin_A (<- if only lol).

Ah KK and PP, you guys are so good!

-Twin_A

[TheWaffle77]

@TwinA505 word, i was thinking about best sheiks other than them 2 cuz m2k and amsah are hella obvious, next time ill clarify that better, cuz i didnt clarify it all LOL

[MehTahNite]

@TheWaffle77

i was about 2 say. i was thinking that maybe it has been that long since the matchup against darkrain @ genesis. also look at what m2k does to every other falcon (the matchup is like 100-0 in m2k's favor) good thing i read your reply BEFORE i was going to rant. what about drephen (maybe you were talking about active sheiks 'cause he would among the top sheiks as well)?

[darksinji]

J.cole Who dat Who dat. OH OH Drake pulled out his chain.

[lolzalot44]

lol at mute mic

[maxisku2]

LOL, shout out to otg

[ItMustBeFate1]

Knowing the outcome of the match and watching this set live, I love hearing the commentary right at the start of the match, where they basically sound like its going to hopeless for KK...

KK fuckin rapes

[Sanuzi]

obligatory comment

[GManNickG]

7:10 Don't downplay your opinion too much, you've probably watched more matches than any Smash player. You have a good basis for thinking "most Sheik-Falco matches lean in Sheik's favor".

[PsychoDoughBoy88]

in a somewhat related note i think i did slightly better this time

[emmawatsonsboyfriend]

That's strange. When you were trying to say "KirbyKaze, Tope, and Mew2King are the best 3 Shieks," it sounded a lot like "KirbyKaze, Tope, and Lucien."

[PsychoDoughBoy88]

FUCK YOU LOVAGE

[LedZeppelinSongs]

Greeeeeaaaaat match.

[Dazwa070]

kirby kazeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeee

[AkashiXI]

What a misleading name - I see no Kirbys! ;)

[RockLobsta23]

@AkashiXI I also see no a fishhooks having an even bend.