John Michie - Argues for Scottish Independence

[Cybopath]

@MrBEAST127

"Scotland is a place" wow is that a technical term? Like "A radioscope is a thing." Scotland is a country, the U.K is a Soverign State made up of 4 constituting countries.

[NoriokoTheMagicSkunk]

I noticed John Michie was the voice over for Labours campaign broadcast in the recent election....

What a two faced knob.

[Gusdocs1]

Why should we be tied to England go abroad and they think if you are Scottish you are English

[MrScottishJamie]

@MrBEAST127 S e faighean a th'annad 

[MrScottishJamie]

@MrBEAST127 i guess u e English because only the English profit from the union England and Scotland r countries same with Ireland and wales UK is a just a union not a real country read up on independence wars and u will find Scotland is a Country and always will be . so Puch ma horne

[SixtyFourMan]

@MrScottishJamie And how do the English profit from the Union? I'm certainly not - I paid for University, I pay for my prescriptions... and my taxes go towards allowing Scotland to have them for free. I hope you're not mixing up "the English" and "the British" - because the "British" is our mutual enemy.

[MrScottishJamie]

@SixtyFourMan well the english voted tories . the tories wanted fees enough said . scotland however voted not to have the fees ok i hope england gets independence for britain and scotland .I think english democrats would give england a better say in england and snp a better say in scotland

[MrScottishJamie]

@SixtyFourMan if u dont want fees in england dont vote the parties that support the fees rather than trying to blame scotland because it voted a party with free uni fees

[SixtyFourMan]

@MrScottishJamie Not blaming Scotland - blaming Britain. If voting changed anything, it'd be illegal.

[MrScottishJamie]

@MrBEAST127 scottish independence wars hmm scotland is a country so is england uk is only a union a bond between us which is breaking read up on history

[RobW581]

He is correct in saying that Scottish MPs should have no say whatsoever on English affairs.

[MrScottishJamie]

@RobW581 u vote idiots u get idoits we voted snp scotland get advantages from having a national party stop voting tory

[bodach2]

What a complete tube Michie is. Stirring stuff in this video. 2 years later, he backs Margaret Curren in the Glasgow N.E. by election, and claims independence would be a bad thing. What changed John? How did you go from this stuff, to arguing Scotland's "Too wee, too weak, too poor"? Do you have any firm beliefs?

He's a political whore and will say whatever his current paymaster tells him to. Moreover, who cares what he thinks? No credibility whatsoever.

[Alastairbell]

We cannot forget who we are and where we came from and how hard our ancestors struggled and overcome obstacles and challenges through life! So we must show our respect and honour them all and be united under our flag when our nation of the kingdom of alba was at its peak of our culture by flying the flag of st andrews the saltire and not a union jack a symbol of Colonialism

[RobW581]

I don't think that the Scots will vote for independence.If anything I think it will be us South of the border here in England that will demand an independent England.

[globaltraveller]

@RobW581 Trust me, a lot of us in Scotland would love for the good citizenry of England to demand English independence - but I think we know that we'll all be long dead before that ever happens.

[rudeydudey05]

The Buck starts and end with Tony Blair.

[dauntless111]

What can I say. This is probably the best video for an Independent Scotland I have seen thus far. Kudos JM.

[rudeydudey05]

@MrFarmer86

Scots didn't get a say??? well it was a Scottish prime minister that sent us there in the first place, Tony Blair.

[dauntless111]

@rudeydudey05

I think you will find that Tony Blair alone does not have the power to invade another country. It's a bit more complicated than that.

[MrFarmer86]

I agree totaly , we need a voice in the EU . are fishing, farming and alot of other industrys all gets sold out for whats good for england , england always comes first at westminster that is not fair . there are other countrys with a smaller number of people that have there say . We need to get out of this u.k and get in to the EU where it counts.

[nr900]

This guy is so cheesy. Harnessing wind and waves. Aye, right. He's right about the brain drain, and it seems like it's going to get worse with the banking sector crippled in ediburgh now.

[breezeman199]

He's right. Independence would be good for Scotland. And even better for England too. A win-win situation.

[PtbaScot]

@kiNGZeDDi3x wow, you have a time machine that can show you alternate reallities. Amazing.

[Alba12349]

NO TO THE UNION AND THE EUROPEAN UNION

[Lightf00t1]

Excuse my ignorance, but why are so many people against the Iraq war? I mean, how many hundreds of thousands of Kurds did we save from death by going to war? Also, this argument that we went to war for oil is ridiculous; there are numerous other places we can get oil. Besides, Blair/Bush, etc., could have just asked Saddam Hussain to buy the oil if they wanted it that bad.

[ToulacAxeHand]

@Lightf00t1

How many Iraqi citizens did we kill?

[Lightf00t1]

@ToulacAxeHand

A huge amount less than what would have been killed under Saddam's continued reign.

[ToulacAxeHand]

@Lightf00t1

See, so many have been killed - there is no exact tally.

The war in Iraq was pointless, imperealist and illegal.

[Lightf00t1]

@ToulacAxeHand

If that's what the mainstream media and lefty academics say, then it MUST be true.

We should have let Saddam Hussein slaughter the entire population of Iraq, because that wouldn't have been illegal.

Get a brain.

[ToulacAxeHand]

@Lightf00t1

Lefty academics know what they're talking about.

Arguably an 8 year stretch studying politics at university makes their opinion wholly credible.

[Lightf00t1]

@ToulacAxeHand

Well, in the sense that easily maleable people spending eight years being indoctrinated with marxist thought, ultimately become experts on marxist thought, then yes, you're correct.

Being experts on an ignorant and damaging ideology only makes them retarded, though.

[MrFarmer86]

@ToulacAxeHand I agree , the was in Iraq was totaly pointles and a waste of life , and us in scotland didnt get a say yet are boys are fighting and dieing

[calicheSCOT]

Light, around a million Iraqis have died as a result of the coalition invasion of Iraq in 2003. Those killed under Saddam don't come anything near that number.

[calicheSCOT]

About 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens have been killed since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, just for the record.

[Lightf00t1]

@calicheSCOT

Who cares

[kratzenbourgII]

I hope Scotland becomes an independent

country once again. If it does, I might consider claiming Scottish citizenship. I dislike England strongly.

An Englander.

[segano1]

@kratzenbourgII You hate your own nation, how so?

[glasgow1234]

I

SUPPORT

SCOTTISH

INDEPENDENCE - M/19/Glasgow

[Zyozyoma]

Actually, the EU is becoming just as much an empire as the UK.

[ParasiticScotland]

I can't wait for Independence, and the day we English stop have to stop looking after PARASITIC scotland & the even more PARASITIC wales who are both currently a drain on England. Furthermore I want to see your pathetic economies flounder in the current economic crisis when you're all on your own.

Freedom for england from PARASITES!

[globaltraveller]

Given that England has a bigger deficit than Scotland (which is in surplus) and the United Kingdom has a rocketing debt and having to borrow money on the international capital markets - does that not mean that England is actually the parasite?

[chadstur1991]

Scottish Independence will come, I am certain.

[hernhillrebel]

What frightening rubbish.The only thing I agree with was about the War. Blair did that coz he is really against The Union and wanted to break this country and drag it through the mud.Plus he wanted Iraq's oil.Plus his version of Catholocism required a crusade against Islam;(remember he said God told him to do it.)

Ironically Blair is Scottish,but this bloke blames the union with England. European city indeed.Say that with doodlebugs flying over.I come from Kent yet I am not European.

[mapkaz]

Last time I looked at a map Kent was in England which is in Europe You are European and so am I

I want to decide if Scotland should be in the EU or not whatever way I think is none of Englands business

But that is a matter for us to debate about not some foriegner from England

[hernhillrebel]

Saying other Britons are foreign is the sort of thing you might say to tease someone. It is not true of course. You say we are both European,despite the fact you live a long way from the continent. Europeans though would regard us as both British, which we are.

[emmyjo720]

Don't often see sunny days on Taggart..

John Michie has a great arguement and I am English but I would rather be in Scotland if they ever became Independent that be stuck with a Tory government, Tony Blair has done alot of damage and it is hard for Labour supporters, John Michie is one too.

[smithster2008]

goood speachh - totallly admire this guy for many things, including Taggart.

[markfairford]

Notice that some of it is filmed in the East End of Glasgow!

[DeltaNC]

The man shows such logic in this video. I agree with him word for word. However the Labour party are totally unelectable in their current state. Plus they refuse us a democratic referendum on Independence.

[TheBritishWatcher]

The UKs opt outs have protected Scottish laws and certain powers already divolved to the Scottish parliament aswell. You want to give up on the union and just join a bigger union which will ignore you even more.

At the moment Scotland is part of the UK the second biggest net contributor to the EU budget and one of the 3 major EU powers. Scotland alone will just be one of dozens of countries begging for money from the richer and more powerful member states.

[tazdog123]

scotland would be rather prosperous according to economists, a net exporter of oil and gas, second in europe only to norway and a hub for renewal ebergy, described as the green saudi arabia of europe.

[TheBritishWatcher]

According to SOME economists. Ofcourse Scotland would survive if independent, i have never suggested it would grind to a halt and vanish the morning after leaving the union.

Oil has halved in the past 2 months, that means a large part of Scotlands future economic success has been washed away with a general trend. Oil and gas will also not last forever. Norway which has ALOT more oil than Scotland (UK) has seen its production reduced over the past few years aswell

[TheBritishWatcher]

You have to take into account the amount of spending by the Scottish government and understand that oil revenues which has only been about 10 billion a year will not pay for everything.

Creating a new country in the 21st century is going to cost alot of money, and i dont see why the people of the UK should pick up the tab for that new country, when its only the people of Scotland who will of voted for it. The costs of splitting up this union must be paid for by Scotlands share of UK wealth.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Many people in England were against this war from the start aswell. Lets not forget Tony Blair had some scottish roots aswell, he was even born in Scotland. The one man who could of stopped Tony blair was Gordon Brown who is Scottish.

The fact people want to destroy a country united for 300 years is a disgusting and foolish position. Thank goodness most people in Scotland support the union and are not seperatist traitors who would damage both England and Scotland if they won.

Long live the UK

[markfairford]

Only one man could have stopped Tony Blair going into an illegal war?

I fear it was true when millions marched against it.

But what does that say about the UK, 'democratic' mother f**ker of parliaments?

[TheBritishWatcher]

Theres a difference between a million people protesting against the Iraq war and Gordon Brown who had some very loyal supporters in the labour party. sure Bliar and labour should of listened to peoples views but if Gordon Brown had decided to stand against the war it would of seriously damaged the labour vote (more than it was without)

[UncleKnapsack]

BritishWatcher - Well when you put it like that, what choice did Brown have?

Squander billions, sacrifice the lives of hundreds of British Service Personnel and a million Iraqis or risk damaging the Labour party.

Good thing Brown had that "moral compass" his dad gave him...eh?

[TheBritishWatcher]

lol ya his moral compass works great considering the Iraq war did far more damage to the Labour party than a fight with bliar would of. :) If he had opposed the war perhaps he would of become prime minister still and this time we would of actually liked him.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Its ashame John Michie got lots of his money working on UK wide media which gets most of its money from England. If hes so against the union i hope he returns the money.

It was ok for Scotland to be part of the union that last for 300 years when it was benefiting, but now it could be ok alone within the European union its ok to just walk away.. How loyal.

Scotland is stronger within the EU as part of the Uk than it would be alone, AS part of the UK its a major EU player.. Scotland alone isnt

[DeltaNC]

Incorrect, as is we have no direct say in the EU and we are sold out regularly by Westminster to benefit the South East.

Independent we would have more MEP's, the ability to say no to legislation we disagree with, and a direct voice in the Council of Europe and Commission.

In the UK we have none of these! We're a second though and a bargaining chip for Westminster.

[TheBritishWatcher]

As part of the UK we get many opt outs which other smaller european countries are not given. They simply get bullied by France and Germany into supporting something.. Scotland will be like that if it wants to get some money from the EU. Those countries also wont be happy because the UK will suddenly be paying less into the union budget

Other european countries wont be happy because they face seperatists groups aswell wanting to destroy their countries. Thats IF we choose to let Scotland join

[TheBritishWatcher]

I think we will let you join but its within our power to block Scotland joining international organisations. Greece prevented a country from joining the EU and NATO simply because it didnt like its name. :)

Ofcourse the funny thing is the SNP often say they want to be like Norway and Ireland, but ones in the EU and one isnt. Norway profits so much from its oil because they remain out of the EU and dont have to obey strict competition and anti state ownership laws.

[markfairford]

Great that you found this!