I read the uploaders comments and I wonder how any grenade rifle can replace the m/48? its multipurpose with like 30 different grenades, its not heavy and its really accurate. I hit a pointed out tree with a smoke of a distance of +800 meters with optic sights. I think its a must-have for every squad just like a machinegun.
This weapon should be made more available to regular troops. The enemy has dozens of RPG's, this weapon would come in handy. HE, anti-personnel, we need more firepower at sqaud level.
it should be eventually used as light weight mortar too in the future(with properly upgraded electronic sights) in some tactical situations ,because it has literally the same muzzle speed as M252 81mm mortar
@DinoPal How can it be a copy when CG m/48 was design in 1948 (that's why it's named m/48) and SPG-9 in 1962? I'm confused why everyone is comparing it to the RPG-7. m/48 is a recoilless rifle and RPG-7 is a Rocket Propelled Grenade. There's a huge differens..and I let you guys Google it..
The Polish Army uses the RPG-76 for it's airborne troops. It was designed to be smaller and lighter than the RPG - 7 (It weighs 2.1kilo with the grenade loaded, the grenade weighs 1.78 kg). It's been taken from front-line troops because of its limited anti-tank capibilities, according to wikipedia and the airborne and special units have replaced it with the Carl Gustav. You should look into it.
@monkeysmoooooo The Inf get trained on it, however its usefulness has been overshadowed with the FGM-148 Javelin and its more effective uses in Ghan..
See, the main problem with today's armament that I can see, is that they're trying to keep up with MBTs and other heavily armored vehicles. Even with massive designs like the SMAW or Vampir, rockets are only marginally effective. Weapons need convenience with "enough" punch to do the job against light vehicles and structures. In that respect, I think the LAW is perfect, when every man can carry three or four and deploy them relatively quickly.
Sweden actually has some damn motivated soldiers and plenty of good weaponry. The ONLY thing that limits our military is the politicians. They're like fucking kids; "We can't finance this country properly so lets take cash from the military -again-. Who needs safteybelts anyway, nothing bad happens around here ever and never will."
"...ignores having high explosives weapon shock action at the squad-level"
The problem is, the RPG is a shaped charge. It's an anti-tank rocket that can be used as anti-personnel. The US has high-explosive capability... 40mm grenade launchers, the replacement for rifle grenades, as meant for anti-personnel.
You're CORRECT though in that the US lacks long-range squad-based anti-tank rockets. But in asymmetric warfare, they're not fighting insurgent tanks.
"American infantry obsessed with kinetic energy bullet gunslinging ignores having high explosives weapon shock action at the squad-level"
I think you mean to say "anti-tank capability"- 40mm grenades are high-explosive... The RPG is a shaped charge meant to penetrate armor, not an anti-personnel shrapnel rocket.
Guerrillas aren't using very many tanks or large vehicles.. Why does the US need to replace their anti-personnel grenades?
@dynmicpara the smaw is even getting phased out for the Jvelin, that thing is friggin nasty. you should see what it does to a 1985 cargo van full of an iraqi mortar team.
@breakerace6 SAY IT AIN'T SO. Can't the USMC do anything right? FYI, I fired the SMAW as a 2LT in the USMC. Why can't Javelins replace the marine man-slots that used to fire the awful Dragon ATGMs? Why must this be a zero sum manpower game when the USMC is so bloated with bodies on active duty? At $78K each the Javelin is unaffordible to take-out bad guys behind Afghan mud walls.
@zzman305 Actually the US military does use it. I served with the 2nd Ranger Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment and we had a Gustav team assigned to every platoon. I considered it better then the AT4 becuase you could use different types of shells.
ive shot one of these, im an MP in the canadian army reserve that carl is amazing no joke u dont even know u shoot it till u feel the vacuum power you literally feel ur clothes pulling back
just a small correction: rpg doesn't mean "rocket propelled grenade". it is russian for "ruchnoy protivotankovy granatomyot" which means: "handheld antitank grenade thrower".
by the way, there are also russian disposable rpgs and modern russian rpgs (rpg-29) are also long tubes with the grenade fully covered. they are pure antitank weapons, though.
Mate most rpg's are specifically anti infantry. Its really only rpg 8's and 9s that do much to armour. They are a grenade not an armour piercing warhead like the gustav.
I mean just because RPG-7's are suited to insurgents (low weight, simple) doesn't mean US (or UK for that matter) infantry should adopt it.
Carl Gustav has been WONDERFUL in Afghanistan. The range/accuracy/power destroys the hardest Taliban positions from a safe distance. Also weighing 8.5kg to RPG's 7kg with similar projectile weight.
Also this "ready to fire RPG" clashes with our commitment to reduce collateral damage. 40mm grenade is enough.
Reducing collateral damage means not dropping aircraft bombs on villages; having ground forces that can pin-point rebels and blast them is good.
Can Carl Gustavs be carried by EVERY infantry rifle squad like a RPG without reducing overall unit mobility? CG 84mm RRs at platoon-level YES, but we need 1 RPG per squad and rifle grenades with EVERY SOLDIER.
40mm grenade launchers are not enough to blast through mud walls and require direct line-of-sight to target that the TL/Grenadier may not be in position for: witness Seal Team 4's debacle at Punta Patilla in Panama in 1989...
Well they have actually redeployed the M72 LAW rocket launcher, where each launcher actually weighs similar to a single RPG-7 round while being just as effective at blowing holes in walls and obliterating foxholes.
Then there is the AT4 at 15lbs loaded, although only single shot it has found great use with the Anti-Structure Tandem round which will literally demolish a reinforced concrete house from 300m and the CS model can be fired in confined spaces.
how old was the rock that filmed this? (since theres no potatos in the desert)
1776freedomordie 3 weeks ago
I read the uploaders comments and I wonder how any grenade rifle can replace the m/48? its multipurpose with like 30 different grenades, its not heavy and its really accurate. I hit a pointed out tree with a smoke of a distance of +800 meters with optic sights. I think its a must-have for every squad just like a machinegun.
Gfors85 3 months ago
This weapon should be made more available to regular troops. The enemy has dozens of RPG's, this weapon would come in handy. HE, anti-personnel, we need more firepower at sqaud level.
BookerT48 8 months ago
make love not war :D
thelilja5 10 months ago
it should be eventually used as light weight mortar too in the future(with properly upgraded electronic sights) in some tactical situations ,because it has literally the same muzzle speed as M252 81mm mortar
ww2footage 10 months ago
Hey thats an Australian soldier )=B!
dudits5557 10 months ago 5
this will keep the neighborhood kids off my lawn
101andrewj 10 months ago
Copy of spg-9
DinoPal 1 year ago
@DinoPal
SPG-9 in service since 1962
M/48 Carl Gustaf in service since 1948
aerodynmag 2 months ago
Swedish power! :D
Both AT4 and CG.
Papa91echo 1 year ago 3
SPG-9 copy
DinoPal 1 year ago
@DinoPal How can it be a copy when CG m/48 was design in 1948 (that's why it's named m/48) and SPG-9 in 1962? I'm confused why everyone is comparing it to the RPG-7. m/48 is a recoilless rifle and RPG-7 is a Rocket Propelled Grenade. There's a huge differens..and I let you guys Google it..
mikegnorp 1 year ago 2
"Why ARE you kneeling stoopiiid?!! You have no cover!! Get DOWN!!"
...is what my commanding officer would have said if he had seen me do this.. :D
stormesk 1 year ago
I WANT ONE !!!! .... and one for my wife, my kids .... and don't forget Grandma !
SirViving 1 year ago
hell no the the US uses the Gustav's
arvdaugii 1 year ago
The Polish came up with the RPG-76, which is smaller and lighter than the RPG-7, which reminds me about the panzerfaust
lknkprkninflamesbest 1 year ago
The Polish army uses the RPG-76 for its airborne. It's smaller and lighter than the RPG-7. You should check it out.
lknkprkninflamesbest 1 year ago
The Polish Army uses the RPG-76 for it's airborne troops. It was designed to be smaller and lighter than the RPG - 7 (It weighs 2.1kilo with the grenade loaded, the grenade weighs 1.78 kg). It's been taken from front-line troops because of its limited anti-tank capibilities, according to wikipedia and the airborne and special units have replaced it with the Carl Gustav. You should look into it.
lknkprkninflamesbest 1 year ago
@zzman305 no, its a shame this weapon is seriously overpowered xD
LukeRidd 1 year ago
Why does it appear that they are wearing DDPU? australian uniform? We use it quite exstensively , every ADG is trained on it. infantry not so much.
monkeysmoooooo 1 year ago
@monkeysmoooooo The Inf get trained on it, however its usefulness has been overshadowed with the FGM-148 Javelin and its more effective uses in Ghan..
harosokman 1 year ago
@monkeysmoooooo he is definately aussie... all australian infantryman should be trained on it.It was a good HE airburst thats for sure!
funks88 1 year ago
Ah, brings back memories! I remember hearing this back in the days at Port Valdez. It was the only thing you could hear anyway.
Poisonseed 1 year ago 2
eh.. ^^ That's not an American.
kevind15 1 year ago
just to give you the hot tip, thats AUS CAP DPCU making the firer in this vid and Australian.
TheChrisgibb 1 year ago
See, the main problem with today's armament that I can see, is that they're trying to keep up with MBTs and other heavily armored vehicles. Even with massive designs like the SMAW or Vampir, rockets are only marginally effective. Weapons need convenience with "enough" punch to do the job against light vehicles and structures. In that respect, I think the LAW is perfect, when every man can carry three or four and deploy them relatively quickly.
John234pwns 1 year ago
Sweden actually has some damn motivated soldiers and plenty of good weaponry. The ONLY thing that limits our military is the politicians. They're like fucking kids; "We can't finance this country properly so lets take cash from the military -again-. Who needs safteybelts anyway, nothing bad happens around here ever and never will."
-.-
ScilusVacilius 1 year ago
nice, carl gustaf vs at4,witch one is the best?
Gloriusful 1 year ago
Those are aussies mate not U.S. you can tell by their DPDU's
grud777 1 year ago
these aren't US in the clip it's Royal Australian Infantry!
bingz43 1 year ago
Good old Carl Gustav ! Same name as the swedish king ! At-4 is a pretty good swedish weapon aswell ^^
TinyArts 1 year ago
"...ignores having high explosives weapon shock action at the squad-level"
The problem is, the RPG is a shaped charge. It's an anti-tank rocket that can be used as anti-personnel. The US has high-explosive capability... 40mm grenade launchers, the replacement for rifle grenades, as meant for anti-personnel.
You're CORRECT though in that the US lacks long-range squad-based anti-tank rockets. But in asymmetric warfare, they're not fighting insurgent tanks.
PhantomP63 1 year ago
@PhantomP63 We need HE rockets in every infantry squad to BUST ENEMY INFANTRY behind cover.
dynmicpara 1 year ago 2
"American infantry obsessed with kinetic energy bullet gunslinging ignores having high explosives weapon shock action at the squad-level"
I think you mean to say "anti-tank capability"- 40mm grenades are high-explosive... The RPG is a shaped charge meant to penetrate armor, not an anti-personnel shrapnel rocket.
Guerrillas aren't using very many tanks or large vehicles.. Why does the US need to replace their anti-personnel grenades?
PhantomP63 1 year ago
From what i read, the Carl Gustav had an amazing accuracy, in comparison to other portable missile launchers like this.
Its an impressive system nonetheless.
Fastbikkel 1 year ago
i want one!!!!
Patriot16100 2 years ago 3
Swedish brilliance :D
lundholm4 2 years ago 7
afraid the 84mm crew dont last too long in battle conditions..give off too much heat
irishclevertrevor 2 years ago
Then you got the wrong fire position :D
KarILsson 2 years ago
@irishclevertrevor average life span of a 84 crew in combat is two rounds.. if your good enough and lucky enough :)
13billybigballs13 1 year ago
There's a 84 recoilless weapon being developed now that has virtually no back black and therefor can be fired out windows from within buildings.
survivorhfx 2 years ago
The Gustav really is a wonderful weapon, its a shame that us US Military only use disposables.
zzman305 2 years ago 27
Mostly correct. Rangers use Carl Gustavs, marines Mk-153 SMAWs. We are working to change this in the current gunslinger KE mentality.
dynmicpara 2 years ago
@dynmicpara the smaw is even getting phased out for the Jvelin, that thing is friggin nasty. you should see what it does to a 1985 cargo van full of an iraqi mortar team.
breakerace6 1 year ago
@breakerace6 SAY IT AIN'T SO. Can't the USMC do anything right? FYI, I fired the SMAW as a 2LT in the USMC. Why can't Javelins replace the marine man-slots that used to fire the awful Dragon ATGMs? Why must this be a zero sum manpower game when the USMC is so bloated with bodies on active duty? At $78K each the Javelin is unaffordible to take-out bad guys behind Afghan mud walls.
dynmicpara 1 year ago
like the at4?.........also Swedish if u wonder
thadude1337 2 years ago
javelin my friend
windowssucks101 1 year ago
@zzman305 Thats why sweden is cooler then the US :D
rikardf96 1 year ago
@zzman305 Actually the US military does use it. I served with the 2nd Ranger Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment and we had a Gustav team assigned to every platoon. I considered it better then the AT4 becuase you could use different types of shells.
gungasc 1 year ago
^_^aah lille carl han kommer va med ett bra tag fram över!
MasterOfFlash92 2 years ago 10
This is one of the best things to come out of Bofors like ever.
AT-4 is pretty nice too but that was modified to what it is today by the US so. we can only take partial credit for that :P
myt0l1st 2 years ago
it got wide range of ammo you can use, however it need a 2 man team in order to load this weapon quickly.
alongthebluff 2 years ago
such a sweet weapon to fire, sucks the snot right out of you if you don't blow your nose before hand... lol
Tak189 2 years ago
Dont u.s rangers still use the carl gustav?
MANC2311 2 years ago
I got out of 1st Ranger BN in 2000 and we had CG and I will bet they still do as it is an amazingly great weapon for special ops.
jaysonness 2 years ago
The funny thing is,in Iraq if they stand and fight they always die.
But on the upside there is those 99 virgins ,they have been promised....LOL..
ClarksonsinUSA 2 years ago 5
? 99 ????
I think that 72 :D and there is not mentioned if this virgins are female LOOOL
Watch
Jeff Dunham - Ahmed the dead terrorist :D
7BeAsT9 2 years ago
hopefuly they are not guys lol
xaviercornwell 2 years ago
theres only 72. lol
ajlucero1792 2 years ago
ive shot one of these, im an MP in the canadian army reserve that carl is amazing no joke u dont even know u shoot it till u feel the vacuum power you literally feel ur clothes pulling back
dustin123321 2 years ago 2
Yeah i know what you mean,i fired a live one once and it felt like being at the centre of an explosion.
ajb7876 2 years ago
Yeah. I fired it in the Irish Army Reserve. Brilliant weapon. Just done a course on the GPMG SF. I'm firing it next month.
renegadeob 2 years ago 2
Yeah Im Australian army reservist. I've used them, It feels like someones slapped you in the face and kicked you in the guts!
fiddletownjoel 2 years ago 8
It's not that bad really...
Feels like putting your head next to a wall of amps
greyfoxplaysbass 2 years ago
from sweden, named after our king.
Animefan2o07 2 years ago
Sorry he is not Canadian, he is Australian 4RAR CDO
see /watch?v=yCWPtq5FnA0
DenwarTheoriginal 2 years ago 2
Canadian soldier with Scandinavian rocket launcher. (co-op)
LoveGLuvan 2 years ago
GO BOFORS, SWEDEN!!! :D
haggan12345 2 years ago 2
Swedish grenade launcher.
2 faults i one sentense!
Seignto 2 years ago
Australian
algardaus 2 years ago
lol i learned some thing new to day, thank you russian comment guy
monkeymushroomman 2 years ago
Canadian soldier there.
Burgoyne 3 years ago
Yup.
rocktehcasbah 3 years ago
nope.
mitchnason 2 years ago
Sorry not Canadian, he is Australian 4RAR CDO
check: /watch?v=yCWPtq5FnA0
DenwarTheoriginal 2 years ago
In swedish "granatgevär m/69"
orgazzzzzmic
gislemark79 3 years ago
just a small correction: rpg doesn't mean "rocket propelled grenade". it is russian for "ruchnoy protivotankovy granatomyot" which means: "handheld antitank grenade thrower".
by the way, there are also russian disposable rpgs and modern russian rpgs (rpg-29) are also long tubes with the grenade fully covered. they are pure antitank weapons, though.
dunkelfalke 3 years ago 3
Really? But "rocket propelled grenade" sounds better imo. Isnt there anti-infantry rpg's? What are they called?
SnoweyMan111 2 years ago
Mate most rpg's are specifically anti infantry. Its really only rpg 8's and 9s that do much to armour. They are a grenade not an armour piercing warhead like the gustav.
algardaus 2 years ago
its called rocket propelled grenades in english..
haggan12345 2 years ago
is the 84mm considered a rocket or a really big bullet cuz it dosent look self propelled so i think its a bullet someone please clearify
ken0is0gay0fan0club 3 years ago
Meh video but WTF with the info on the right->
I mean just because RPG-7's are suited to insurgents (low weight, simple) doesn't mean US (or UK for that matter) infantry should adopt it.
Carl Gustav has been WONDERFUL in Afghanistan. The range/accuracy/power destroys the hardest Taliban positions from a safe distance. Also weighing 8.5kg to RPG's 7kg with similar projectile weight.
Also this "ready to fire RPG" clashes with our commitment to reduce collateral damage. 40mm grenade is enough.
Treblaine 3 years ago 9
Reducing collateral damage means not dropping aircraft bombs on villages; having ground forces that can pin-point rebels and blast them is good.
Can Carl Gustavs be carried by EVERY infantry rifle squad like a RPG without reducing overall unit mobility? CG 84mm RRs at platoon-level YES, but we need 1 RPG per squad and rifle grenades with EVERY SOLDIER.
dynmicpara 3 years ago
40mm grenade launchers are not enough to blast through mud walls and require direct line-of-sight to target that the TL/Grenadier may not be in position for: witness Seal Team 4's debacle at Punta Patilla in Panama in 1989...
dynmicpara 3 years ago
By talking about SEAL TEAM 4, are you talking about how they had to use an AT4 to take out Noriega's plane?
victorrain 3 years ago
CG with round: 25.96 pounds
RPG-7 with round: 19.4 pounds
dynmicpara 3 years ago
Well they have actually redeployed the M72 LAW rocket launcher, where each launcher actually weighs similar to a single RPG-7 round while being just as effective at blowing holes in walls and obliterating foxholes.
Then there is the AT4 at 15lbs loaded, although only single shot it has found great use with the Anti-Structure Tandem round which will literally demolish a reinforced concrete house from 300m and the CS model can be fired in confined spaces.
Treblaine 3 years ago
@dynmicpara : Yeah, there is a weight issue. I am only familiar with the Carl Gustav, but I think it has a longer reach than the RPG-7.
Heimdall01 1 year ago
made from sweden!
dbSWEdb 3 years ago
grg.....
Ittal 3 years ago
Aussie aussie aussie. Die Taliban scum!
lizardhead69 3 years ago 5
Made in Sweden
HCnyling 3 years ago 71
Nice MR Carl Gustav. Is there any of this Recoilless Rifles for sale?, Surplus maybe?, or demilled units.
Detoyato 3 years ago 3