Oh I hate snobbery over guitar brands. I have a Levinson Blade RH4 Classic (expensive boutique brand) and I have a cheapo $100 Strat copy that I have put some better pups in....I get as much enjoyment (maybe more) out of the cheapy rather than the expensive guitar! The mind is a strange place
@BluePin75 totally get that i was in the guitar shop tried three real fender telecasters then tried the squire version of the tele it felt better, i thought it sounded better and it was generally more fun to play and £400 cheaper
nice...love it when somebody shows just how good a budget guitar can sound.... i have wasted hundreds over the years chasing the dream of a quality guitar....
but i have settled on a budget tele of my own.... made by vintage.... not everyone's fave but it really suits me.....
@pmay222 Well said. I have a Squier Strat Standard (the chrome one) and I loved it more than my friend's more expensive ltd f50. the squier strat which i own is one guitar i would not let go.......
Hello, i'm new into this great world of blues, and i was wondering if there's a specific pattern or scale which you used to perform the licks on the following
@topperspoppers my squier tele is pretty noisy too when not touching any metal part of the guitar - if you take your hands off and hear that buzz, it is most likely a "grounding" problem" and a wire needs re soldering. Guitar center does this for like 5 dollars these days, hope this helps.
@rgjmce666 Awesome, congrats! My first guitar was a squier stratocaster, and I still have it today (totally reworked though, new pickguard, golden lace sensors, and ofcourse a great setup). I will never part with it, not just because its my first guitar, but because it is a really good one. I have played many fenders that can't keep up with it (but I also have now great Fenders, I love the plus series of the 80/90's). Enjoy your guitar!! Best instrument ever.
nice playing, I have the same guitar and so far I love it, I agree with you, stock pickups are great!. the only problem I have is that it gets out of tune really easy after bending. do you hace the same problem??, if not, any ideas fot that?
I think what Im trying to convey from my previous post here is that not everyone wants to be he new EVH....... that is down to raw talent and being in the right place at the right time with everything else totally dialed in with the band, it dosent happen often...... for example EVH and VH worked back then because the mix of talent in the band was perfect...so chill out, this guy can play and he can teach others
@fuchalo I think you're just jealous you can't play as good as rotren. haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haa!!!!!!!! Whew, i haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
How about the guy is just having fun with what he can do, which is pretty awesome, why does it have to be so serious and meaningful all the time...lighten up seriously, we all enjoy playing and improving. I find that most people that find fault with others are either resentful and frustrated players or really great guitarists desperate to tell the world how great they are.........
Don't get either...get an Ibanez RG2ex1, or an Ibanez RG120, with A line 6 spider 15 watt amp...getting those things would be much more worth your money
If you think that sucks you need a slap. As it stands, I want to chop off your hands and attach them to my body in the hope that your skills might be transferred to me. Somehow, I don't think this would benefit either of us.
I love my squier telecaster. i love the neck, squier necks are thin and they are fantastic to bend on. I think I'll have mine in this lifetime and the next.
I plan on getting a Squier Classic Vibe stratocaster myself here shortly, I've heard nothing but good about them. I'm gonna try one out at my local guitar shop first though.
yeah, i went to my local music shop and tried out a little bit of everything. Fender American strats, mexican and the classic vibe series. MIM strats are good.
ive got one among many other things... its apparently called an M-50, its actually a kind of LP rip off... and ive got $3000+ guitars like a JEM and a PRS and obviously the squier isnt as good but it still holds up just fine as my alternate tuning guitar... people just dont get that any company has the potential to build a nice guitar... there are good ones and lemons and for squier the rate of lemons is just higher than fender US
Nice one dude. It's impressive what you can do with a Squier tele. I plan on taking one of the new Classic Vibes teles which I was fairly inpressed with without any upgrades and replacing the p-ups and adding 500k pots. I don't see why anyone wouldn't get a squier and upgrade it. So much cheaper than an American Fender, the only good reason I can think of spending that much on a guitar would be getting a G&L.
The bad thing about squier's is that they only come with medium frets. Some of the American Telecasters come with the Jumbo frets, which I favour. If you don't like jumbo frets though, you may as well buy a squier standard, upgrade the pickups and maybe the hardware.
I have the AD100VT. Needed the volume to cope with playing with big horn section. I was looking at buying a tele as a second guitar - I'm sold. Now if only I could play like that.....
hmm, ive been wanting to play shit like that for years, but i dont know how, can anybody show me scales or it, and im not sure what type of music he was playing
Haha, thats awesome I was looking up my guitar to see some demo's with it (squier tele) and you also have the same amp as me XD good to see what I can do with me ol guitar and amp ^^ I got alot to learn...
squier rocks my affinity strfat gives out a real good bluesy tone but the tune does get out a bit while using the whammy bar sometimes....but then with the correct action and the intonation done up it pretty welll stays in tune.
The standard Squier strats are built pretty well. A lot of tunning problems happen in the nut. I put a nice graphite nut on. Those works great. But now I am putting a floyd rose with a locking nut on my strat. Now more tunning problems.
really nice man!
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Oh I hate snobbery over guitar brands. I have a Levinson Blade RH4 Classic (expensive boutique brand) and I have a cheapo $100 Strat copy that I have put some better pups in....I get as much enjoyment (maybe more) out of the cheapy rather than the expensive guitar! The mind is a strange place
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@BluePin75 totally get that i was in the guitar shop tried three real fender telecasters then tried the squire version of the tele it felt better, i thought it sounded better and it was generally more fun to play and £400 cheaper
guitarreilly 3 months ago
nice...love it when somebody shows just how good a budget guitar can sound.... i have wasted hundreds over the years chasing the dream of a quality guitar....
but i have settled on a budget tele of my own.... made by vintage.... not everyone's fave but it really suits me.....
pmay222 8 months ago
@pmay222 Well said. I have a Squier Strat Standard (the chrome one) and I loved it more than my friend's more expensive ltd f50. the squier strat which i own is one guitar i would not let go.......
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"fooz" pedal. lol.
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Pollandtheawesome 8 months ago
Nice playing bro.
snakeweirdo 10 months ago
'Lame' my foot, this is actually really impressive, and I'm diggin that tone!
Knifetwister 10 months ago
you call this lame?
dude you are amazing!!
ermonski 1 year ago
Extraordinary combination of taste and shred. Love it.
telecasterlp 1 year ago
0:31 sounds like the show Becker! LOL!
thatsbullshitman 1 year ago
great tone and musical ideas!
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DanielPowell357 1 year ago
i like it
ninjaassasin1983 1 year ago
the neck pickup has a pink floyd tone to it.
guttermoth 1 year ago
thats sounds amazing for a squier
yomomma2500 1 year ago
Joe Satriani much? lol
dann3th3manni3 1 year ago
bro its not shredding so your right lame shredding...HOWEVER beautiful guitar playing keep it up man
tjthegreat7 1 year ago
woah that fucking guitar sucks.
mustkillosama2 1 year ago
Why is it that you can take any video of someone playing guitar, put "shredding" or "shred" in the title and its like an instant 100,000+ views?
BTW sweet playing :)
Snakebite1138 1 year ago
i miss my old tele :(
4everRock666 1 year ago
buddy holly is come back!
rataguitar 1 year ago
this is some entry level bull sheeT ! !takjin bout shredding, more like sucking ! !
bitcheznhos 1 year ago
1:50 Shred again? Were you some sort of guitar god in your salad days?
WoWintosh 1 year ago
this kind of hybrid amp response ok with pedals?¡???
aintnaive 1 year ago
Why do you say lame? I think you shred very well.
riskotibor80 1 year ago
Lame? haha not even man. \m/
theduosevennick 1 year ago
That Das Fuzz sounds brilliant
ChablesMan 1 year ago
Wouldn't call this shredding by any stretch, but still a good demo of the Squier's capabilities.
OneLoveJK 1 year ago
cool demo shredder. wasn't sure how versatile the guitar was, but i'm sold
pushindabush 1 year ago
Hello, i'm new into this great world of blues, and i was wondering if there's a specific pattern or scale which you used to perform the licks on the following
0:08 - 0:14
is really inspiring
xXNitramGtaXx 1 year ago
@xXNitramGtaXx or just the Dorian scale?
xXNitramGtaXx 1 year ago
true guitar wankage , just like me , thanks , great guitaring
mrstudes 1 year ago
just goes to show that one doesn't need to spend thousands on gear to get a good sound.
ejrosendahl 1 year ago
Wow, Poindexter can play!
dwiganstube 1 year ago
im impressed theres no noise with the squier my mexi tele is pretty noisey
topperspoppers 1 year ago
@topperspoppers my squier tele is pretty noisy too when not touching any metal part of the guitar - if you take your hands off and hear that buzz, it is most likely a "grounding" problem" and a wire needs re soldering. Guitar center does this for like 5 dollars these days, hope this helps.
Nice playing to the vid poster.
epiphysis 1 year ago
jees man play atune
boabstewart 1 year ago
Stop talking about the Squier, and give that VOX some appreciation! The Vox VT's are for the money the best amps you can get at the moment!
hermanshermits124124 2 years ago 4
@hermanshermits124124 and squire aren't good value money?
rgjmce666 1 year ago
@rgjmce666 Some are, some of them are real crap though. But the same can be said of every brand.
hermanshermits124124 1 year ago
@hermanshermits124124 I bought a 01' squire tele today and it's awesome but it does need a bit work
rgjmce666 1 year ago
@rgjmce666 Awesome, congrats! My first guitar was a squier stratocaster, and I still have it today (totally reworked though, new pickguard, golden lace sensors, and ofcourse a great setup). I will never part with it, not just because its my first guitar, but because it is a really good one. I have played many fenders that can't keep up with it (but I also have now great Fenders, I love the plus series of the 80/90's). Enjoy your guitar!! Best instrument ever.
hermanshermits124124 1 year ago
@hermanshermits124124 yeah i bought it specifically to do it up but the more i play it, the less stuff i wanna change on it lol
rgjmce666 1 year ago
The first lick you played sounded nice on that guitar even though it's a squier!
codavied 2 years ago
Great tone - and great playing !
How many years have you been playing the guitar?
Does it take like 10 years of practice ?
I'd sure like to be able to play like that !
syncro16se 2 years ago 3
maybe two years starting from an electric guitar, and having classes with a specialized teacher.
dropeify 2 years ago 2
you got tabs for what you ar playing at the intro, and at 0:30 ??
zeeerner 2 years ago
what are you talking about that sounds awesome! and on a squier!!???!!
guitarohman 2 years ago
The neck pickup clean had the tone for The Wall's solo. Sounded awesome.
Bardock992 2 years ago
Very awesome! You gotta love that tone a Tele and a Strat make.
anastu 2 years ago
Way to make a Squire sound totally awesome! haha
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sounds great, you just look and sound like a douchefuck
asdfguy 2 years ago
what's your fuckin problem dude?! Jealous of the german who plays way better than you play in your retarded fantasies?!
Fattyfatfatfat92 2 years ago 2
i heard some, another brick in the wall, and wind cries mary.
Verry nice playing mate :o i enjoyd watching :)
warhoofd13 2 years ago
nice playing, I have the same guitar and so far I love it, I agree with you, stock pickups are great!. the only problem I have is that it gets out of tune really easy after bending. do you hace the same problem??, if not, any ideas fot that?
pedrojulianfp 2 years ago
I can't shredd for crap on a neck single coil pickup. But it sounds .... idk different from humbuckers. any suggestions??
Guitfiddlist 2 years ago
probably cuz the humbuckers are higher output
MrMuker777 2 years ago
Why did you call this video lame guitar shredding?? that was friken awesome!
burl0721 2 years ago 2
Cuz more peps will watch this then.
bongpotsmoker 2 years ago
great, not really shreding dude, but that is some sweet impro
pondhop3 2 years ago
100,000th view! :D
Do you just freestyle it? Or did you write that beforehand? :o
Emocritisism 2 years ago
Totally freestyle! Just random improvisation. Thanks everyone. Stock Squire pickups, yep.
rotren 2 years ago 3
I think what Im trying to convey from my previous post here is that not everyone wants to be he new EVH....... that is down to raw talent and being in the right place at the right time with everything else totally dialed in with the band, it dosent happen often...... for example EVH and VH worked back then because the mix of talent in the band was perfect...so chill out, this guy can play and he can teach others
shredidiah 1 year ago
Wow dude that was awesome, for a "lame" shredder you kick many of metalhead's ass ! You're a great player, I suscribe if not already done !
PepinoMichoacan 2 years ago 2
whats up with shit guitar, awesome amp and neat playing
leddeath80 2 years ago
This is pretty sweet tone there. stock squire pickups?
bonkdonker 2 years ago
Nice trick - call it lame to get pity votes
You win - 5 stars
HEREoverHERE 2 years ago
0:30 sounds like he is going to play the wall solo, perfect tone for it too.
aw350meman69 2 years ago
Ah, blues shredding. Such a great art. Most people these days seem to think you need to to be thrash metal to shred.
starkravingmadman 2 years ago
got a great heavy blues sound. must have some stevie ray somewhere in the ol album collection
DankTendencies 2 years ago
Haha, yeah he should probably stick with blues, hes not a bad blues player and that guitar/amp is not suited for shredding lol
iwishiwasafish123 2 years ago
Dude. You make fun of yourself - but you can tear it up. Fo- shanks! yyyyyyeeeeeeahhh bwoi!!!1
cosmogang 2 years ago 3
3:33 Sounds like yngwie malmsteen haha
WhiteNightRiots 2 years ago
its a really good guitar but i bought it for 230 pounds =/
HighPhoenixStudios 2 years ago
yeah, vox r suited to the teles sound...i prefer to use the fender champ.
mick123876 2 years ago
nothing beats a Telecaster and Vox
id choose them any day over
a Les Paul with a marshall
Gerrymander1000 2 years ago 3
this is awesome dude, dont put yourself down ahah, i wish i could play like this lol
Narimatzu 2 years ago
that was preettty cool
edlird 2 years ago
Not sure i understand what is happening unless i'm missing something.
I thought the playing was brilliant and when someone is testing or at least showing off equipment mistakes happen.
Christ mine are full of them lol
But like this video it's about showing people what sound you get from the perticular setup you are using.
bringmeflowers 2 years ago
shredding is pointless unless you have meaning behind it, no one wants to hear stupid shredding all day, i wana hear some feeling in solos.
fuchalo 2 years ago 19
@fuchalo I think you're just jealous you can't play as good as rotren. haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haa!!!!!!!! Whew, i haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
Hazel0Like0The0Nut 1 year ago
@fuchalo "shredding is pointless . . . . . i wana hear some feeling in solos."
translation: "I am a really slow player, so rather than admire and respect a fast player, I'll criticize him. It makes me feel a lot better"
grandpatarzan 1 year ago
How about the guy is just having fun with what he can do, which is pretty awesome, why does it have to be so serious and meaningful all the time...lighten up seriously, we all enjoy playing and improving. I find that most people that find fault with others are either resentful and frustrated players or really great guitarists desperate to tell the world how great they are.........
shredidiah 1 year ago
the second part of the solo sounded like pink floyyd another brick in the wall
brightbo3 2 years ago
What's lame about this?
SiAnReviews 2 years ago
nice dont turn off yourself down!!
keep rocking dude
sorry if my grammar is bad because im from other country
metalguitar1995 2 years ago
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i'm deciding either to get this guitar or a squier by fender bullet strat.Does anyone know which one is better for a beginner?
janin101 2 years ago
Don't get either...get an Ibanez RG2ex1, or an Ibanez RG120, with A line 6 spider 15 watt amp...getting those things would be much more worth your money
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janin101 2 years ago
you play well mate. Dont shoot yourself down.
godfreyjones25 2 years ago
Great amp! Got one, and i'll never use any other kind of combo!
Denturion 2 years ago
the guy looks kinda scared at the begining :P
vicklawl 2 years ago
Sounds great!
avistahvac 2 years ago
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sorry but i dont like this vid because your not playing metal
zezibo 2 years ago
you suck.. this guys great
jetliswar1992 2 years ago
cor
p0l0m3No 2 years ago
If you think that sucks you need a slap. As it stands, I want to chop off your hands and attach them to my body in the hope that your skills might be transferred to me. Somehow, I don't think this would benefit either of us.
milesihamer 2 years ago 5
You're awesome, your guitar playing is so fluid and natural, that's great man.
Lostindasky 2 years ago 2
man... you make fun of yourself at your lack of shredding...
Well.. I wish I could suck that much. >________>
a601lbcatfish 2 years ago 3
I love that this didn't stay strictly in the pentatonic scale in one position like so many people do. very nice improv. =]
RoboticusMusic 2 years ago
ur great, i love ur guitar too
OakViewStuds 2 years ago
Oh god.. I just hate telecasters... they are ugly as sin.... BUT I LOVE THE SOUND!
AntiRellik 2 years ago
shreding is just messin around and havin fun
nextjameshet 2 years ago
No, Shredding is the act of playing Complex and Technically Difficult lead lines in rapid Succession. what your referring to is what we call Jamming
Snakebite1138 2 years ago 11
ah thank you. sorry got my terms mixed up
nextjameshet 2 years ago
@Snakebite1138 hence "lame"
RO80T 1 year ago
thats not shredding at all
q3mk 2 years ago
Uh, yeah, it is
idontcarewatuthink 2 years ago
no its not as far as I am concerned
q3mk 2 years ago
that sounds amazing for a squier tele, which model is it?
Hady1994 2 years ago
oh yeah! nothing beats a tele neck pick up
jackofscythes 2 years ago
are you using stock pickups?
frunkus88 2 years ago 2
I wanna see what he can do on a paul reed smith!!!!
satriani429 2 years ago
sounds pretty good
lonewolfshogun 2 years ago
holy.
leviclattenburg 2 years ago
Ive got this guitar,But you play it 10x better,almost sounded like Eric Johnson for a minute.NICE!!!!!!!
kiplingroad1 2 years ago
LAME?!?!
Dude you're fucking brilliant!
potbelly8 2 years ago
wow :O
how can u get that sound out of a squier? X.X"
zivmeiri 2 years ago
Do you know stuff about guitars dude its a pedal
10thmaggot 2 years ago
i know its a distortion
im just saying
its a great sound for a squier
zivmeiri 2 years ago
squiers are not that different from Fender originals
madezecke 2 years ago
squiers get a bad rap, but they're not bad.
sethmanjette12 2 years ago
Exactly. You Could take off the squier logo and replace it with a fender logo and 90% of these retards who trash them would say "Nice Fender!"
andrewguitar67 2 years ago 2
I love my squier telecaster. i love the neck, squier necks are thin and they are fantastic to bend on. I think I'll have mine in this lifetime and the next.
sethmanjette12 2 years ago 2
I plan on getting a Squier Classic Vibe stratocaster myself here shortly, I've heard nothing but good about them. I'm gonna try one out at my local guitar shop first though.
andrewguitar67 2 years ago
yeah check it out man. I just love any fender product, call me a fender posterboy though.
sethmanjette12 2 years ago
I'd recommend a Fender MIM (Made in Mexico) Stratocaster alot more than Squier (If you have the extra cash) but its all up to you
Noseheros 2 years ago
yeah, i went to my local music shop and tried out a little bit of everything. Fender American strats, mexican and the classic vibe series. MIM strats are good.
andrewguitar67 2 years ago
isn't squier a subcompany of fender?
deadmilkman4182 2 years ago
Yes actually, they're their daughter brand, AKA they make cheap versions of fender instruments
Noseheros 2 years ago
mmm i recently listened to one of those at local store and they are badass... great instruments in reasonable price
SqiroS22 2 years ago
I have the exact same guitar!!
how much was yours worth?)
CheeseDanish780 2 years ago
I got mine for about 169 dollars.
sethmanjette12 2 years ago
I paid my red one 230 euros...
Swifty2893 2 years ago
Unless they played them of course. I honestly think you can feel the difference in quality
idontcarewatuthink 2 years ago
ive got one among many other things... its apparently called an M-50, its actually a kind of LP rip off... and ive got $3000+ guitars like a JEM and a PRS and obviously the squier isnt as good but it still holds up just fine as my alternate tuning guitar... people just dont get that any company has the potential to build a nice guitar... there are good ones and lemons and for squier the rate of lemons is just higher than fender US
topperspoppers 2 years ago
hey man, your videos are excellent. whenever i have a question about gear, i look to you first
eidlyn 2 years ago
I've got a Classic Vibe, tey have Jumbo frets. Nice.
GuitarKidddd 2 years ago
Actually you dont really think you can't shred.... ;)
Sufferd666 2 years ago
Cool.
I have the fender mexican telecaster and I find it is extremely easy to play.
AEgamesFtw 2 years ago
Nice one dude. It's impressive what you can do with a Squier tele. I plan on taking one of the new Classic Vibes teles which I was fairly inpressed with without any upgrades and replacing the p-ups and adding 500k pots. I don't see why anyone wouldn't get a squier and upgrade it. So much cheaper than an American Fender, the only good reason I can think of spending that much on a guitar would be getting a G&L.
evildemonllama 2 years ago
The bad thing about squier's is that they only come with medium frets. Some of the American Telecasters come with the Jumbo frets, which I favour. If you don't like jumbo frets though, you may as well buy a squier standard, upgrade the pickups and maybe the hardware.
WhiteNightRiots 2 years ago
DUDE!!!! SHRED-TASTIC!!!
yella322 2 years ago
"lame"? TOTALLY NOT!
Babsicaster 2 years ago
I think u play great.
User12342 2 years ago 2
I have the AD100VT. Needed the volume to cope with playing with big horn section. I was looking at buying a tele as a second guitar - I'm sold. Now if only I could play like that.....
rugbygirlsdad 2 years ago
i got a butterscotch tele affinity
nachos401 2 years ago
nice one!!!i suck at guitar,but you rock man!!!!
racefaceec90 2 years ago
hmm, ive been wanting to play shit like that for years, but i dont know how, can anybody show me scales or it, and im not sure what type of music he was playing
amangonecrazy 2 years ago
Haha, thats awesome I was looking up my guitar to see some demo's with it (squier tele) and you also have the same amp as me XD good to see what I can do with me ol guitar and amp ^^ I got alot to learn...
Maten123 2 years ago
pretty good dude, dont be so hard on urself
back2thefutre 2 years ago
dam cold blooded.rock on on
teajacka 2 years ago
"lame guitar shredding"??
this guy's licks are awesome :D
MasterExploder9 2 years ago 2
Hes good as.The person putting the text in the video is obvioulsy an imature gay bingo caller that knows nothing about music....
Fatalvengence 2 years ago
It was the guy in the video who put the text in.
He's using this thing called "modesty", ever heard of it?
windowmaker90 2 years ago 4
man your fingers are so smooth! such skills that would take so long to obtain!!!! haha
Mrbegals 2 years ago 2
nice man
petegreenup 2 years ago
i would take your playing any day of the week you are amazing
guitarG321 2 years ago 4
2nd'd
s4jt 2 years ago 2
squier rocks my affinity strfat gives out a real good bluesy tone but the tune does get out a bit while using the whammy bar sometimes....but then with the correct action and the intonation done up it pretty welll stays in tune.
indranilchatterjee89 2 years ago
The standard Squier strats are built pretty well. A lot of tunning problems happen in the nut. I put a nice graphite nut on. Those works great. But now I am putting a floyd rose with a locking nut on my strat. Now more tunning problems.
TheMadMusicMan 2 years ago
Thats right,I had a bone nut made for my Squier Tele Custom II,its a fabulous guitar
750tblack 2 years ago
Thank you, Robert Renman. I've bought a Standard Telecaster (cherry) thanks to you.
regisconde 2 years ago
vox amp rock
just bought the VT15.. perfect for home because of the watt-poti on the backside..
really a good choice for goot tone at low volume levels.. especially when you live in a flat and wont distrub ur neighbours all the time :)
keep on strumming
HenroXdaHouse 3 years ago
I detect no lameness whatsover
interestingusername 3 years ago 6
nice job. I like it
ZachJG2221 3 years ago
it's lame??? why???? I don't understand :S But Nice work man!!! :P
attilapcx 3 years ago
Nice man.. Your lesson videos rock.. Lame what?? You play great!
rodrigoguitarlover 3 years ago