Shock Doctrine: Disaster Capitalism Right-wing Libertarians (by Naomi Klein + Alfonso Cuaron)

[Arcturistheballer]

You don't have to be educated to know that this video is completely false, do research, go outside, look at whats happening today. You think colleges are 50k per year because of the free market? no, its because government says everyone deserves an education regardless of the cost so they subsidize it. The gov says everyone should be able to get a housing loan so they pressure big banks to hand out loans and Housing crashes. That is not free market.

[HybridD91]

Is it a bad thing that anything related to 9/11 or some natural disaster doesn't produce any emotional response unless I consciously choose to feel something?

[Arcturistheballer]

@HybridD91 lol get over yourself man

[Arcturistheballer]

@HybridD91 if I murder your family are you going to tell me you don't have an emotional response unless you "choose to feel something"

Don't misinterpret law of attraction and new age thinking for something its not

[tomitstube]

there's more coming. they're just getting started. the downward pressure of falling profit, the nature of capitalism, it has to be manipulated by powerful entities to keep billions in their place.

we are approaching an impasse, the elites are misdirecting the message because they know that underneath it all, the people are starting to wake up from decades of profit oppression, the shock is wearing off.

it may not be clear right now, but the revolution is getting close.

[booley]

this is a logical extension of the pious lie.

Simply put, the ends are seen to justify the means. if you have to trick and pressure and occasionally torture/kill/dissapear a few troubling activists, than that's just the eggs you need to make your free market omelet.

For all the talk by cons about how the social contract is violent and coercive, they sure don't have an issue using violence to force the rest of towards their libertarian ideal.

[whedonfreak976]

@mr8ucket The result, price inflation, wage deflation, unemployment went through the roof.

Iceland had a 4.0% Unemployment rate, and a 200 billion dollar surplus, they privatized the banks, lowered taxes, in 5 short years. 250 Billion debt. An unemployment rate of 7.6% Mmmm i see a pattern here. And your child analogy is so full of shit, and shows that you are only interested in yourself. Selfish asshole.

[whedonfreak976]

@mr8ucket LOL You are full of shit, this kind of RWR stupid response is why no one really believes in your bull shit ideology. Really? Mmm let's see Norway switched to a more socialist society, mmm unemployment went down to 2.9% a 150 billion surplus by using gov healthcare, and education, and properties. Mmmm no, history has proven your ideology wrong time and time again, look at Chilie in the early 70's Pinochet deregulated the market, and privatized most of the countries properties. Cont.

[loopstreet]

seems eerily so...

[whedonfreak976]

every poll has people not wanting cuts to medicare or medicade, or social security. but they do want more taxes on the rich, and defense spending cuts. and why not help other people's children? that is good for the moral of a society. i would, what if your children needed help, if i had to pay more taxes just to make sure they got what they needed then so be it. i would. no child should go without food. or cloths or shelter. just saying, what if it was you who needed help? different story.

[whedonfreak976]

until the capitalist took over in the 90's and almost destroyed the economy over there iceland had a 3.4% unemployment and over 250 billion in surplus. after iceland privatized the banks, the unemployment went up to 7% and a debt not a surplus of over 330 billion. so the question should be, why do middle and working class people go against their own interest? and before you start the force crap. we are forced to support the free market even tough it is not what the people want. cont

[whedonfreak976]

@TheAntiFascist2010 but we have to pay for the rich, bail them out, and give them ridiculous tax breaks. using redistribution of wealth has proven back in argentina in the 50's they had the biggest middle class until a junta took over and made it a private free market like agusto pinochet and chile in the 70's shweden in the 80's had one of the great economies of all time. with only 18% between CEO and blue collar worker pay, and an unemployment rate of 1.6% sweden was a model until cont

[buffysummersfanboy]

@buffysummersfanboy As for me, I shall not go gently into that good night. Free people everywhere, rage, rage against the drying of the light of liberty. Klein offers in replacement for our current imperfect mixed economy one more heavily influenced by corporatists than that which exits. What is truly a shame is that she thinks she is urging the proletariat to liberate themselves; in truth she does not know that she is inadvertently leading people to surrender themselves to the "wise few."

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@buffysummersfanboy

you cannot be more wrong on Naomi Klein.

the "Wise few" you're referring to are the evil Jewish Communists, Jewish Democratic Socialists and evil "Jewish bankers"? they are the distorted delusion and paranoid illusion of Fascist Nationalist "personal Liberty" Ultra-Conservative Libertarian Capitalist WASP Anglo-Saxon Germanic White Protestant 'Free' Market Capitalist millionaires, i'm sure.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@OneApostate

some comments for you to respond to at this vid, if interested. and please PM me to help a friend in serious need of assistance! AHOD ANCAP Librtrn Fscsts ...need a lawyer. 

[quinnrasta]

I think it is disgusting that klein "tries" to make a PROFIT off of her books. Nazis were socialist assholes and not for freedom. Just because a society has capitalism does not mean it has freedom, but where you have freedom you will find people be a part of a capitalist society, a free society until they find out they can vote themselves other peoples money.Funny that guys like soros make all their money off of economic destruction and hear them bitch about profit!Same people using a computer!

[zsylvana]

@quinnrasta

Nazi Germany was a type of capitalism; that called "totalitarian monopolistic capitalism " in Nurnberg Trial. To define "capitalism" as consisting of the "free competition" of a large number of independent entrepreneurs with freedom of contract and trade is,to speak of the past.A more enduring trait, and therefore one better fitted to be seized upon in a definition, is the major institution of modern society: private property in the means of production.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta

Sorry Nazi Germany was a capitalist state. And very good, yes captialism does not mean freedom and as a matter of fact it often means the opposite just like in Pinochet's Chile. Freedom does not need capitalism

[Rundstedt1]

"Fascist regimes functioned like an epoxy: an amalgam of two very different agents, fascist dynamism and conservative order, bonded by shared enmity toward liberalism and the Left, and a shared willingness to stop at nothing to destroy their common enemies." Robert O. Paxton. "The Anatomy of Fascism", p147

All fascism did was combine conservativism with a new populist energy, just like the Rightwing teabaggers

"Hitler was never a socialist." - Ian Kershaw, a very respected historian of the era

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (1/4)

The Nazis were put in power and got the support of the traditional conservatives and capitalist class in Germany. Hitler was put in power by the conservative Hindenburg and conservatives like Papen served in his cabinet.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (2/4)

"Yet the equality of status so loudly and insistently proclaimed by the Nazis did not imply equality of social position, income or wealth. The Nazis did not radically revise the taxation system so as to even up people's net incomes, for example, or control the economy in the manner that was done in the Soviet Union, or later on in the German Democratic republic, so as to minimize the differences between rich and poor.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (3/4)

Rich and poor remained in the Third Reich, as much as they ever had. In the end, the aristocracy's power over the land remained undisturbed, and younger nobles even found a new leadership role in the SS, Germany's future political elite.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (4/4)

Peasant families that had run their village community for decades or even centuries managed for the most part to retain their position by reaching a limited accommodation with the new regime. Businessmen, big and small, continued to run their business for the usual CAPITALIST profit motive." - Richard Evans, "The Third Reich in Power" p500

[quinnrasta]

We do not have a free market, when gov gets involved it is no longer free market capitalism. Gov gives favors to corporate donors like GE through regulation. The regulation is made to do 1 of 2 things, hinder the growth of a big company or to eliminate small companies. Cap and trade will slaughter small businesses and give the multinational multibillion$ company the unfair advantage. Gov will do this,not free individuals making choices for themselves.Gov started the economic mess through housing

[zsylvana]

@quinnrasta .Nonscence!Charles Kindleberger in the classic Manias,Panics, and Crashes: A History of Financial Crises (5th edn, John Wiley and Sons, 2005) shows that financial crises are a perennial characteristic of unregulated financial systems: from 1725 to 1929 destructive bubbles have occurred roughly every eight and half years in the West. But they largely disappeared in the Bretton Woods era (1945–1973).

[zsylvana]

@quinnrasta Studies of economic growth rates from 1980 to 2000 gives us a much more accurate measure of the consequences of orthodox neoliberalism or globalization on the world economy. The era of globalization was a disaster for much of the Third World. In Latin America (where the adoption of neoliberalism was somewhat later than in the West), real capita GDP grew by 82 percent from 1960–1980. But from 1980–2000, per capita GDP grew by only 9 percent.

[zsylvana]

@quinnrasta In the case of the US, we can point to a number of important acts of financial deregulation that were the direct causes of the crisis:

(1) Repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act (1999)

In the US, the Glass-Steagall Act, initially created in the wake of the Stock Market Crash of 1929, prohibited banks from both accepting deposits and underwriting securities. This led to segregation of investment banks from commercial banks.

[zsylvana]

@quinnrasta (2) Hiding Liabilities on Off-Balance Sheet Accounting

Banks used off-balance sheet operations called special purpose entities (SPEs) or special purpose vehicles (SPVs) to take on toxic asset-backed securities. This allowed banks to escape even the weak regulation of Basel I and II. It is estimated that the top 4 U.S. depository banks put around $5.2 trillion into SIVs.

[zsylvana]

@quinnrasta ) Commodities Futures Modernization Act (CFMA), 2000

This exempted financial derivatives, including credit default swaps, from regulation.

(4) The SEC’s Voluntary Regulation Regime for Investment Banks, 2004-2008

The SEC's Consolidated Supervised Entity (CSE) regime was introduced in 2004.It allowed investment banks to engage in their own net capital requirements in accordance with the standards of the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision with ratios to as high as 40 to 1

[zsylvana]

@quinnrasta controls on capital inflows were actually a regular part of capital controls in the Bretton Woods era and in well into the 1980s

The dangers of large destabilizing capital inflows can result in:

(1) damaging appreciation of a nation’s exchange rate that harms its exports and trade;

(2) short-term capital or “hot money” that causes financial instability and rapid outflows due to irrational herd behaviour and in turn balance of payments crises, and

(3) asset price bubbles,

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (1/14)

There is no such thing as a 'free-market' All markets are created and will seek out regulation. A black market starts as a "free-market" but it is quickly taken over by the underworld and therefore regulated, or it is legitimized and regulated by the government. So it is not a case of IF the market is regulated, but by and for whom. Deregulation actually just pushes the regulation of the market onto the largest, most powerful of the producers (the corporations) by default.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (2/14)

So it is because of the very same 'free-market' principles that have been pushed on us that it becomes a 'corporate' market. A 'free-market' will naturally become a 'corporate market'. Monopolies are fostered during periods of deregulation, the record of history bears this out. It was during the Gilded Age, a historically recognized period of laissez faire gov't that fostered some of the greatest monopolies until the present great wave of deregulation.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (3/14)

"The problem is that the laissez faire minus the crony capitalism has never happened anywhere on Earth that I am aware of. Someone clue me in? Laissez faire capitalism is always, or nearly always, crony capitalism. The state is the only thing to throw the criminals in jail, and laissez faire gets rid of the state. The checks and balances in Milton’s model do not exist because the state is gutted, deregulated and corrupted by money." Robert Lindsay

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (4/14)

And finally the crisis was a crisis started by private lending and speculation in exotic trading instruments, credit default swaps and such, which are nothing more than 'bets'. The bad loans and sub-primes were not made as part of any gov't program.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (5/14)

To qualify for a CRA loan the client had to meet requirements designed to show that they could meet its obligations. The sub-prime loans were NOT part of the CRA program but were put into being by the private sector well before Freddie and Fannie even got into the game.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (6/14)

"Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two private companies that had started as government agencies, have been the particular subject of vilification. As has been the government program called the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which encourages banks to lend to underserved communities.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (7/14)

Had it not been for these efforts as lending to the poor, so the argument goes, all would have been well. This litany of defenses is, for the most part, sheer nonsense. AIG's almost $200 billion bailout (that's a big amount by any account) was based on derivatives (credit default swaps) - banks gambling with other banks. The banks didn't need any push for egalitarian housing to engage in excessive risk taking.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (8/14)

Nor did the massive overinvestment in commercial real estate have anything to do with government homeownership policy. Nor did the repeated instances of bad lending around the world from which the banks have had to be repeatedly rescued. Moreover, default rates on the CRA lending were actually comparable to other areas of lending - showing that such lending, if done well, does not pose greater risks. (CRA loans actually had a lower default rate than other mortgages)

[Rundstedt1]

@quinn (9/14)

The most telling point though is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's mandate was for "conforming loans," loans to the middle class. The banks jumped into subprime mortgages -- an area where, at the time, Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae were not making loans -- Without any incentives from the government. ... Later on, years after the private sector had invented the toxic mortgages, the PRIVATIZED and UNDER-REGULATED Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac decided that they too should enjoy the fun

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (10/14)

Their executives thought, Why couldn't they enjoy bonuses akin to others in the industry? Ironically, in doing so, they helped save the private sector from some of its own folly: Had they not bought them, the problems in the private sector would have been far worse, though by buying so many securities, they may have also helped fuel the bubble. Joseph E. Stiglitz, "Freefall" p10-11

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (11/14)

"CRA has been in existence since 1977; plus, it only applies to depository institutions (regular banks). Meanwhile, we had a subprime bubble that mostly took place after 2002, with most of the loans made by institutions that weren't subject to the CRA. That's why everyone who's looked at this honestly says that the Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with the crisis." -

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (12/14)

"The attempt to blame it all on the CRA is just an attempt at blame-shifting -- an attempt to make liberals and nonwhite people the villains of a story that is actually about runaway financial institutions and the free-market ideologues who refused to regulate them." Paul Krugman, "Washington Post"

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (13/14)

It was the unregulated private mortgage companies that issued the toxic loans, NOT Freddie and Fannie. Companies like HSBC and GMAC. Freddie and Fannie only fell prey to the mortgage securities market, which was de-regulated, and those mortgage agencies. You maliciously try to blame the victims; the people that were taken advantage of, and there are a plethora of examples where the loan 'officers' took advantage of people.

[Rundstedt1]

@quinnrasta (14/14)

NO responsible source blames Freddie or Fannie for the Mortgage scams. The toxic mortgages were issued by other totally private mortgage companies as I said, NOT Freddie and Fannie, and the CRA program had a lower default rate than even standard mortgages.

[quinnrasta]

@Rundstedt1 fan and fred have taken in more than 150 Billion of taxpayers money which is 20% of the entire bank bailout and they are still not done taking in money

[ChrisDutch]

Friedman was a deranged, embittered little prick whose father ran a garment factory off the rails (naturally that's all the government and workers' faults) back in Rahway, NJ in the twenties at a time when the US was a leading garment manufacturer and New Jersey specifically was a leader in garment manufacturing. He was an economist to the elites and dictators such as Pinochet and Deng Xiao Peng. The sooner his bullshit about free markets is kicked to the curb the sooner we'll all be fine.

[whedonfreak976]

@HandyMan101 and you base it on what? me disagreeing with you? ok tell me then how? i would like to know/ really, i was giving you facts, well now it is your turn kid

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@lied2bygov

wank off, yah nudnik svinka glupova. you're the one being played and fucked with, not me. what you said is insane and not true. it's just not. recognize when uptight sphincter shits are fucking with your mind, please! it's not a NWO, it's global unrestrained Capitalism, Deregulation and multi-national Big Businesses that are the threat to all people and sovereign govts (multi-nat 'l big businesses are plenty sinister without being a conspiracy) not Jewish bankers or Govt conspiracy.

[whedonfreak976]

@VampiressOnDaProwlq naomi klein, is becoming my favorite author, i just got, and have been reading the shock doctrine, one of the most brilliant books out there, i will do a video about it, and tell poeple to buy it ok i will do another post, to tell what is on my mind

[eathis12]

We dont need capitalism to consume all the resources of the earth. By your logic that would mean at some point we would consume all of it anyway due to population demands even in a collectivist society. "Free Market Fascist" is just that a fascist one if it was a free market the government wouldnt be allowed to let corporations to have influence on them. But alas we dont have that we have Coprporatism or crony-capitalism.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@eathis12

Fascism = Deregulated, Top 2% pay low Income Tax & no Estate Tax, weakened Govt legislature, weak Democratic civil & consumer protection & no Social Welfare safety for Middle Class & Working Poor.

two kind of Corporatism. primary (Private) Corporatism, similar to Cronyism. assembly of Big Business cartels dominating a weak Govt & unregulated Libertarian market.

2nd less common, Public Corporatism, Govt dominating favored Business cartels.

Free Market Fascism = Nazi Germany's economy.

[Arcturistheballer]

@VampiressOnDaProwlq You guys have this shit so backwards that its sickening...

[Hydra773]

lol, you must have been high when you wrote that... Point in case = only retarded drug addicts can fall for the stupidity of this women's propaganda.

Delete my comments away just like our government is taking away our freedom of speech. You and your type are bringing America towards complete collectivism - or socialism, a system that has never worked and can never work, a system under which everyone is enslaved to everyone else, a system of ultimate tyranny and misery for the majority.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@Hydra773

it's called sarcasm. put some thought behind it.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@Hydra773

you make Collectivism sound so attractive and romantic and yet you make not being enslaved sound so appealing, especially with your grammatical talents. and i thought watching paint dry was thrilling LOL

[yaaman25]

@Hydra773 stop listening to the news. France and the UK are under a socialist system, get your facts straight you moronic prick. I see no tyranny or enslavement there.

[TheAzov]

@Hydra773 Sounds like the classic description of capitalism. But in reality this is just hype propaganda and you can't substantiate it. Saying something doesn't make it so, you have to prove a case, and to date this kind of ranting spiel fails miserably to do so. Vamp can back up what she says with so much empirical data it isn't funny. How about you trying to do the same?

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@Hydra773

oh really? will she, now?

oh puh-shaw . . . or not. LOL or i could delete your comment and block you and the reverse would happen to Naomi Klein.

and look. so it happens . . . (click) (delete) (block) (bake) (remove from oven) (cool) (serves eight) LOL ; D

[whedonfreak976]

@VampiressOnDaProwlq what puzzles me, is look at how many people have died, because of this crap called the free market, and where is the pro lifers at? more people have been killed because of the free market, then there has been aborted fetuses, so, where is the outcry at? i do not see none, and what a cute name, the free market, no, free if you are rich, and powerful, screw the rest of us right friedman?

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@psyjunta

thank you for the comment and please tell me more ; D

debunk the Free Market Fascist further, please.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate No, I am not making up stuff, all of what I said is true. I also urge you to look at who is actually funding those endeavors. The Hubble telescope was contracted by Lockheed Martin, for example. Again, the price system and economic freedom drives it all. Craig Venter is a real person. There are literally hundreds of small biotech companies that live or die by FDA approvals, and you have the rich either getting a return on their capital, or loosing millions at a time.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@OneApostate

when i said i helped Naomi i didnt mean i know her well personally. ; P

i was one of dozens who called people to help additional protesters organize her counter-protest. you didnt even ask what i was saying ; P

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate Even then, a lot of the research was done at MIT, a private university.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@OneApostate

did you read my last comment, bad Apostie?

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate Again, certainly, there is tax financed research, but MOST of it is private. Might I add, ARPANET was a department of defense project, but all the later improved protocols were still privately developed, and all the backbones were private funded and developed. Without private investment, ARPANET would still be stuck in the cold war, without companies like Apple and ibm making personal pc's affordable.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@OneApostate

thank you. you're so kind to defend my character against the patushka svinka, CWSmit & Gyrode.

my character is similar to Naomi Klein's.

and she's a dear acquaintance/colleague, through my friends at editing office of Harper's & The Nation, her friend/publicist Debra Levy & exec assistant, Jackie, through frequent travels & long months around Toronto & Montreal, including anti-Global G20 Protest, Naomi lead in Toronto, i helped her organize by iphone when in France, last June LOL

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate You mean that the ability to create matter in a machine was NOT privately funded? Like the J Craig Venter Institute. All I am saying is most of the research is privately funded, and the ONLY reason why, whether it's taken by tax or voluntarily, is due to capital investment by the rich.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate"I don't mind socialism, live in your own commune, but don't make me foot the bill! Unless it for defense and individual rights!" That's what I typed!

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate Still, that is related to Defense, a role for the FEDs. But at any rate, the majority if investment is private, supply side, by the "rich." Just because you can name government programs doesn't mean what I said isn't true. DARPA gets revenue from tax. Private industry gets revenue voluntarily.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate Yes, capitalism is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for freedom. Again, Socialism of the factors of production are dead. Also, which is why you need a government that enforces contracts and third party effects.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate That is not true. In fact, most medical research in the US is still privately, Ie, voluntarily funded, not from taxes. Most investors lose money in venture capital, they only usually make their fortune on one big draw. In fact, the patent system, a protection of property rights, is the main reason why people fund these endeavors.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate Hitler, Stalin, and Mao where all evil not necessarily because they where certain what they believed was right, but they were certain everyone else was going to conform, whether they liked it or not! They were all cultural imperialists. I don't mind socialism, live in your own commune, but don't make me foot the bill! Unless it for defense and individual rights!

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate Also, I forgot to add, most side technological investment is supply side, meaning it usually comes from the rich investing in research...which is why most countries today do not have marginal income tax rates above 40%.

[Gyrode]

@Gyrode I also forgot to mention, capital gains taxes, even in europe tend to be relatively low, and flat, for the supply side reasons I have put already.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate I agree, but ALL the funding is received from the private sector, at least for defense. National research is a relatively new action of government in the US, most research is still private. But you have put the cart before the horse. In countries like Sweden, all that is left is income transfer, meaning, the healthy work for the sick, and the workers work for the retired, with some private investment accounts. Socialism of the factors of production are dead.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate All I am saying is that it is ironic, that in many cases, countries like Sweden have partially privatised social security and school financing. Just because it has never been done, doesn't been it can't be done!

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate I agree, the one of the feds main functions is defense and protecting individual rights...again, if children work 14 hour days because their parents have made them do so, their rights are being infringed. And no, it is not necessarily good to force diversity among private property, but the harm outweighs the good.

[CWSmith1982]

Both the USSR and China each murdered more of their own citizens than any war in history. Lennin, Stalin, and Mao killed far more people than Hitler of the Naionalist Socialist Party. China til this day still has not embrased free market capitalism. Why are these facts neglected? Every where the masses have tried to oust the free market has resulted in the deaths of millions. This film is pure propaganda that any educated person who took a history lesson would find to be extreamly misleading.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@OneApostate

good commenting! ; j

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate Certainly, there are market failures, but compared to what??!! I always look at the net benefits, and the "government" failures outweigh the "private" market failures.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate I am not for "unfettered" free enterprise. I am for a free market system under a limited government that enforces profit/loss, property rights, contracts, and third party effects. Now, my argument is NOT a theory, socialism of the factors of production are dead, you can't even find it in Sweden.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate I find it ironic, that in Sweden, I can use a voucher to go to ANY school I want,private, or public, and it is still a hot issue here. Yes, education is important, and there is an argument that everyone needs it, but I want the CHOICE to pick my school. The incentive to "underinvest" is not an "incentive." Certainly, there are parents that do, but down bring down the best system for that minority. I do not think charity is a bad policy.

[Gyrode]

@OneApostate You are painting me as an anarchist, no, I am a classical liberal. I don't mind government for defense. Now, you must remember, which is the carriage and which is the horse. Free markets successfully produce the tax revenue to fund those programs. Socialism of the factors of production is dead.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@OneApostate

feel free to respond to the recent comments ; D

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@SignRobby

i deleted all your ignorant 3rd grade level comments & BLOCKED YOU! LOL

i'm on a month long vacation in France, il Francais, exhilarating, luxurious, EXPENSIVE well-deserved naughty fun PAID FOR BY MY GOVT, MY BOSS & dear friend & HER private company! my vacation from Jesustan Texas Tea Party Free Market Fascist Survival of the Fittest Healthiest Wealthiest Nazi Anti-Intellectual ignorance loving shit-for-brains Sadistic Hate filled Tea Racists! ~Viva la France! ~tres bien! ~Ce soir!

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@umadumLib

you have lots of pent up bitterness for past disappointments with girls and you're venting it at me like you think you know me even in the slightest. LOL

go get stuffed, yah bloody sod. lol

[Bfisher14]

The quote from Milton was taken far out of context. I hope you people don't buy into this maddness. Milton Friedman is a Nobel prize winning genious, she is an emotional idiot.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@Bfisher14

She didnt take him out of context nor imply he orchestrated crises. she makes no such connection. Friedman (a short, bald man) said "only a crisis produces a real change". The crisis itself is incidental. individually, the crisis may be torture or sudden poverty. nationally the crisis may be economic, tsunami, quake or terror. crisis is just opportunity to take a Think-tank idea out of cold storage & implement--the crisis isnt, itself, the idea.

Friedman wasnt misrepresented--read him

[gonadcancervictim]

those dirty capitalists kicking in doors and killing 1/4 the population of leningrad

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@gonadcancervictim

was that sarcastic?

[Whatchagonado]

@ConservativeMBA

There has always been vitriol associated with our political process. The things that Jefferson and Adams said about each other are actually far worse than those that Obama and McCain did.

America is not a "beacon of light and hope." That is silly rhetoric. The US is a nation-state and a democratic republic. The US has been "wildly successful" at stealing land from native peoples and using chattel slavery to build its economy.

Politics is a contact sport.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@Whatchagonado

an ignorant anti-Communist paranoid Conservative Tea Party shithead is wanting to become debunked on saying that the Soviets and Red Chinese murdered far more people than the Nazis and why any kind of Socialism to mass murder and why Capitalism is better. LOL

he is wanting a proper history lesson on the secret history of atrocities by Capitalism. 

[Gyrode]

@VampiressOnDaProwlq Actually, Mao did indirectly kill more people than Hitler indirectly did. But again, Mao had more time. Definitely Hitler would have killed more people if he was given more time.

[Gyrode]

@Gyrode Well, not more time, Deng was sure to bring reforms by 1979...he saved China.

[socialistwarrior2]

CAPITALISM = FASCISM!!

[TheStevenoxley]

@socialistwarrior2 only with no checks and balances

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@TheStevenoxley

Steven Oxley kittie cat face? LOL i saw your icon. ; P

[herminzissou]

@socialistwarrior2

Socialism is the opiate of the intellectuals

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@herminzissou

Socialism is no Opiate. it's the Cure.

Free Market is Placebo Pill Opiate of Treasure Crazed Gold-Fever-Afflicted Willfully Ignorant

Capitalism is the Opiate of the Selfish Predatory Survival of the Fittest Anti-Social "Individual"

Eliminating Estate Tax is the Opiate of the Insecure Spoiled Child of a Millionaire.

Deregulation & Tax Cuts for Top 2%, Opiate of the Greedy Fortune Hunting Fool

Eliminating Social Welfare, the Opiate of the Sadistic Racist Inhuman Social Darwinist

[Gyrode]

@VampiressOnDaProwlq Socialism is comprised of two parts, generally. The government ownership of factors of production. Also, the a allocation of capital/money to be divided among a population, like schools etc. The first part has FAILED MISERABLY, why the second part is simply a drag on the economies. Socialism DOES NOT WORK because it provides disincentives for production. In a free enterprise system, you have money grubbers to make you work, while guns are needed for the socialists!

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@socialistwarrior2

an ignorant anti-Communist shithead is wanting to become educated on Communism and Capitalism and what is worse and why. tell them how wrong they are, if you're available LOL

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@ConservativeMBA

thanks for that reasonable and pleasant comment. i'm humbled by your maturity. i'll tell you my research of Adam Smith sometime. if you had been in the Senate, you may have persuaded the Republicans to be reasonable & diplomatic like you

[rickbar123]

Milton Friedman smoked crack

[tmgrevolution]

First of all, even today, psychiatrists recommend electro-shock for some patients.

Free market is not an evil doctrine: it is freedom, pure and simple. It is what America is founded on.

I work hard for my paycheck, why should anyone take that away?

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@tmgrevolution

you miss the point. the point isnt that Free Market is evil but that an unregulated Capitalist market isnt a truly Free market at all except for the very wealthiest top 1%. true Free market Capitalism is Keynesian govt regulatyed Capitalist market with consumer protections to stop Big Business price gouging, ffraud & abuse of hard working people like you and me. it has nothing to do with taking away anything from your paycheck but in fact raising your paycheck salary.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@TasiMagyar

i love how having a huge, rude and obnoxiously gas guzzling vehicle or or very financially successful and very wealthy driving an extravagant expensive European sports car or owning several varieties of huge guns and rfiles and shotguns you hunt with & animal head trophies on your wall or a steroidized huge muscular body are all supposed to equate that you have a huge penis when it actually confirms that you have a little thumb size penis even when it's hardened. LOL

[MMGJ10]

@VampiressOnDaProwlq It's funny how all the elitist Hollywood snobs, can drive massive suv's and limo's, and private jets. While telling all the common folk how they should live their meager little lives. Or be protectected by armed bodygaurds, while denouncing the right to bear arms for the peasants. This video is absolute garbage. Do you really think you're a vampire? If so i have a stake for you.

[MMGJ10]

@MMGJ10 I take back the stake comment ;)

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@MMGJ10

i take back the sedative coated crossbow comment. tranquilizer coated instead like we're hunting deer or elk but way easier because deer & elk are smarter & faster.

i take back the Far Right will lose comment.

if Far Right Fascist Nazis try a coup against the govt & try to kill lots of Liberals, immigrants, minorities, U.S. military, cops, National Guard, FBI (especially try to hunt vampires?) the Far Right will lose! will be slaughtered & crushed in bloody massacre. that's a promise.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@MMGJ10

Hollywood celebrities are NOT Elitist Snobs AT ALL! they're the farthest thing from elitist. they're very Liberal Progressive, advocate for common folk & use their fame to advocate for struggles of regular people, WHITE people too.

because ALL Hollywood celebrities came from nothing, poor existence & aspired to make their dreams come true through unbelievably torturous HARD WORK!

Hollywood celebrities EMBODY regular lower Middle Class/Working class AMERICAN way of success from poverty!

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@MMGJ10

i dont think i'm a vampire. but you do. if you fear me, my possible vampire identity, you show weakness. you may deny that fear but we both know you have nagging doubt in your mind that science has not accounted for several unexplained realities. a great deal many things you dont understand, in the dark of mystery, your fears reside.

you see Good & Evil so black & white. cleanly defined. but it is not. what seems scary can be good. what seems holy can be evil.

the Far Right will lose.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@MMGJ10

do you fancy yourself a vampire hunter? if so, i have some sedative coated, bronze tipped crossbow arrow bolts, some steel ice picks, a frontal lobotomy & some blood sanguinary therapy for you. LOL ; j=

[ironcross2010]

Mmm...I smell a nice streaming pile of bullshit.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

me too. i smelled it as you approached with Nazi Iron Cross between unwiped buttcheeks.

when are you Neo-Nazis gonna join Tea Party business financed rallies? you'll give compelling credibility to their Aristocratic wealthy "Junker" class "revolt". people will clamour to join if Nazis show public support & stop orchestrating from the shadows.

so go on! do it. openly help them instead of just large cash donations & your Nazi propagandists speaking at Tea Parties. show your noble "Master Race".

[1BustedMyth]

"me too. i smelled it as you approached with Nazi Iron Cross between unwiped buttcheeks"

I haven't stopped laughing since I read this!, talk about having your ass handed to you! LMFAO!

You really should be writing for a stand up act, I would be the first to buy a ticket!

Brilliant!

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@ironcross

i especially invite your little Adolphies to nighttime Tea Party vigils with torches & books burning! show proudly your swaztika flags waving for all to see. i promise if you do, my people, we will be there. not just Liberals/Progressives. i mean my brethren, to lure you from the bright lights for a nice drink. LOL

we'll be very thirsty at such an auspicious festive occasion.

we remember your brute ancestors marching into Romania, scorching villages as you trespassed our homeland.

[supershqipa]

I find it ironic that a person who caters to the rich can be so vehemently anti capitalist. Not that Im for our current state at all. Alot of these things that are going on happen under the "lefts" watch as well.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@supershqipa

how do i cater to the rich? i dont hate all rich people. some are good people.

and i'm not anti-Capitalist. i'm a Keynesian Capitalist but with strong regulations and consumer protections against business fraud and deregulated high prices and gouging of people's income with finance destroying high rates.

i'm a Capitalist but for Socially Democratic Capitalism.

[MrBuddickman]

i don't know whats worse.. naomi kleins messed up face or her politics??.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

how is Ms. Klein's face "messed up"!? wtf are you talking about?

she is gorgeous and very sexy. is it because she's Jewish and has a somewhat prominent "Jewish" nose?

"Jewish" noses can be very attractive and sexy. Mediterranean women are very sexy.

you seem anti-Semitic or paranoid "anti-Zionist".

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

@MrBuddickman

answer my questions, please, sir.

[spinalfluidontap]

@MrBuddickman Hey dude, why don't you answer the ladies questions? Though I doubt you have anything intelligent to say. But I'm currious.

[ragnadude]

stupid narrator bitch, you clearly have no idea what the fuck milton friedman believed.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

LOL. and you understand Friedman thoroughly? he and Ayn Rand borrowed their "economics" from Nazi Germany economics of Social Darwinist survival of the financially fittest and then you Libertarians distort history to say Nazis were "Socialist", the opposite of what they were (Libertarian privatization Capitalists) to cover your tracks so as few people as possible realize the frightening identical traits Libertarians economics share with Nazi Germany because that is where you got it from.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

Wait, what?

The essence of Corporatism, when compared to Capitalism, is that, while an individual may in some sense own title to property, that property is first, foremost and forever owned by the state, which may revisit and revoke such titles at a whim for "the good of the nation".

Before the war, big-government statists in America actually applauded Italy, for its "responsible economizing of national industries", and proposed similar systems to eventually be adopted by America.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

Panzer Division? javol, heir comandante! LOL

you're wrong on Corporatism as all Libertarian Conservatives intentionally distort Corporatism so as to escape blame for Corporatism because they know Deregulation, tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, destroying Labor unions and Privatization are what causes it and that Corporatism is nto caused by big govt.

essence of Corporatism is big business dominating and bullying govt to do its bidding. both nat'l and internat'l business.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

nto = not*

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

both nat'l and internat'l business.

nationally, Corporatism is largest businesses taking advantage of Deregulation, low taxes and small fiscal govt to destroy competition to monopolize industries and coerce govt to obey big business.

internat'nally it's multi-nat'l business becoming so large they're more powerful than any one nat'l govt and evading nat'l laws and taxes of individual countries to exploit workers, monopolize resources, markets and industry to stranglehold societies.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

essence of Corporatism internat'nally it's multi-nat'l business prevent internat'l laws restricting their abuses so they continue to dominate world economies and ignore nat'l laws.

this calls for a world government.

this is why Conservatives hate the U.N., WTO, IMF and other internat'l govt organizations. they're the only example of world govt power resisting multi-nat'l business domination.

we need a more aggressively effective version of U.N. oh no! "One World Government Socialism"! LOL

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

You ought to be more responsible for your use of language, when you engage in discourse. Words don't mean whatever you say they do.

Example: I challenge you to look up the word Corporation, and tell me how something like that can exist in the absence of state intervention.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

"state" invervention is because big business coerces and dominates govt. big business bullies govt to do its bidding by controlling govt to intervene to illegally advantage big business over small business, over consumers and society. still big business dominating weak and fiscal govt in Deregulated economy.

what appears to be "state" intervention is big business lobbyists, bribery and "persuasion" of govt leaders to do bidding of big business or else not get campaign contributions or worse.

[stick1to2the3issue]

Borrowed from Nazi Germany? ARe you retarded...try Adam Smith, Ricardo and Bastiat. Not to mention Cicero.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

Cicero doesnt belong in that list. nor does Adam Smith.

Adam Smith was for regulation, weflare, labor unions and employee benefits, like unemployment. he wasnt for Deregulation as Libertarians distort him to seem a supporter of. you misunderstand most 18th cent. Liberalism and intentionally distort it.

Ricardo and Bastiat were very shallow, detached, cold Social Darwinist economists. especially Ricardo.

how dare you include Cicero in that list. i'm gonna have to ask you to step outside. LOLz

[stick1to2the3issue]

lol "Ricardo and Bastiat were very shallow" wow...try deeply profound to the point where their writings are recognized as masterpieces...but thanks for coming out.

If you knew Adam Smith (which you clearly don't) you would know that the central thrust of his argumentation was that we don't expect the meat on our table because of the benevolence of the butcher, but rather because of his own self interest.

He understood that the individual working for his self interest was a very good thing.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

your mind labors and persistently obsesses over dogmatic purity that which Adam Smith only meant as part of his nuanced brilliant understanding of complexities and motivations within economics, society and human behavior. he didnt mean "self interest" to be essential dogma. only part of his view. you Far Right do to distort Adam Smith is how Evangelicals distort Jesus Christ to be a wealthy self-help guru rugged individualist entreprenuer from Sepphoris instead of a poor carpenter from Galilee.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

Adam Smith isnt the only intellectual founding father you Libertarian plutocrats diligently distort, proudly promote your historical revisionist version to support your delusions. other patriots you do the same to. Ben Franklin, Jefferson, Sam Adams and others.

Nazis did same to distort famous German warrior leaders they promoted as part of Nazi version of history. they claimed Barbarossa, Alaric, Charlemagne, Frederick and Wilhelm all heroic anti-Jew, pro-Capitalist social darwinist nazis.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

Ricardo and Bastiat were shallow. they lacked character and substance to appreciate struggles of Working Class + Middle Class, as individuals. their work arguably masterpieces but only in limited way, not credible scientific work or modern economic practice.

masterpieces that show evolution of primitive Laissez-Faire Gilded Age thinking.

if i knew Adam Smith? clearly dont? how do you know i didnt know him? if you dismiss science, i may have lived then and known him well as a real vampiress LOL

[Whatchagonado]

"What improves the circumstances of the greater part can never be regarded as an inconveniency to the whole. No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable."

-Adam Smith

Smith's view on morality is diametrically opposed to the "greed is good" moral model put forward by freemarkit loons.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

thank you, Whatchagoo ; D

Adam Smith followed the vampire code. promote keeping all people satisfied, very healthy stable, secure and very nourished. LOL. keep them nourished. no sickly or starving people in the herd. heal and feed them to remedy it quickly. all must stay well nourished and well taken care off and live as long as possible. LOL

'VV'

[Denticle]

i wish i could rate this sooooo much lower than one

You don't talk shit about friedman, he's done more to promote freedom and liberation than anything you'll ever do

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

freedom and liberation for caucasian millionaire and billionaire conservatives only. poor baby. LOL

[chiefrc77]

Freedom may ass. Good god, you are one of these fools that doesn't realize that "economic freedom" only benefits corporations and billionaires. Social freedom and economic freedom are entirely different. Implementing his economic system is like trying to run a society without laws or a police force to enforce them. And where has this system ever worked? Nowhere! It's a big pile of shit that is fed to the middle class at their expense.

[Denticle]

economic freedom with a large state who taxes and spends a third of the nation's income will not work. That is corporatism

economic freedom with little to no state and little to no taxes will work because each and every business will have a strong incentive to provide the best product at the lowest price, anything else will put them out of business because someone else can make some money doing that. There are no bailouts in a truly free market, because no one is in a position to give it

[alsaaron]

Very nice propaganda piece. How do you lump so many things together and come up with this conclusion? Maybe the director should take a basic economics course and explore all of the benefits of real free trade (not government managed trade, as we have in the U.S.). Friedman's views on capitalism are derived from the observation that both parties benefit from voluntary exchange, and free trade makes both nations involved better off.

[VampiressOnDaProwlq]

It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal!

You stole fizzy lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and sterilized,

so you get nothing!

You lose!

Good day, sir!

[Whatchagonado]

You aren't talking about freedom. You are talking about freedumb. Big difference. Freedom refers to things like free speech, freedom to assemble etc.

The right to be fucked in the ass by multinational corporations isn't in the constitution. Nor is the freedom to bribe politicians. Madison was such a doofus, huh?

People whose primary political concern is protecting a tax bracket that they will never belong to are not fighting for freedom.

They are fighting for freedumb.

[chiefrc77]

I couldn't have said this better. These free market loons are slowly destroying the middle class of our country.

[SuperColeman88]

Since when is freadom not fair. Thats what kills me about socialism.

[Whatchagonado]

What is freadom?

Unregulated capitalism does not equal "freedom."

[willingtorisk]

Fuck yourself

[willingtorisk]

Fear becomes a complex, the person becomes unaware they are always afraid and don't know it, the personality becomes conformity, and they are always capable of being driven by fear, because they are unaware that they are controlled. These are the brown shirts of the ultra right, they are all afraid, driven by notions of superiority, especially genetics, now financial superiority, and have no compassion or empathy, or understanding for 'others.' The nazi's wet dream, taking america.