@MrFatguywithagun Hmmm, not sure where this comment is coming from... I showed several examples of them in my vid and where one could buy them, (why or for what reason is beyound me) so am I missing something here?
I am a retired police officer (originally from another state than the one I live in now), and I do carry a CWP badge on either my belt or my holster. For reason that IF I should ever have to draw or use my weapon in self defense or in defense of someone else where the police will drive up and see my weapon drawn, they will also see the badge which is much better than yelling and trying to tell them that you have a paper license in your wallet or pocket.
@music04777 EXAMPLE: You are in a convenience store, someone comes in and tries to rob the cashier. You drawn your weapon and order the would-be robber to drop his weapon, (whether it be a gun or knife). He drops it but you are unsure if he may have another weapon so you keep your weapon drawn on him til the police arrive.
@music04777 Once the police arrive I would much rather them see the badge so that they know that I'm NOT the one who was trying to rob the store. Believe me, they will figure that out quickly once they see the would-be robber laying on the floor with his hands behind his head.
@music04777 Another reason is guns make other people nervous when they see them. Having a concealed weapon badge upon your person DOES tend to reduce jitters in others in the event that they may see your weapon. It does happen. You could be in a store reaching for the top shelf, your shirt slides up and wham there's your concealed weapon right in the public's eye. That one HAS happened to me once in the past, my CCW badge did reduce stress by 100%.
@music04777 Also, I'd like to mention that if you're going to carry the CCW badge, don't buy the commonly advertised ones. Have one of your own made with your name engraved on it. (Of course make sure the name engraved on the badge is the same as the name on your driver's license).
@music04777 This specific example would be the same regardless of the badge though wouldn't it? The bad guy lying on the floor with their hands behind their back, and your drawn down on them? Not trying to pick a fight brother, just hashing this around. Thanks.
@music04777 I really hate to point this out and love a friendly debate and do want want to instigate as pissing contest or anything...LOL...BUT,...in that scenario I would not need to worry about a badge or a permit, as i would NOT engage to stop that robbery unless a) he discharged the weapon, either to scare, kill, or ND, or b) He pointed it at me or in my direction. Again as a former LEO, your training may kick in and dictate otherwise and be perfectly OK. The avg Joe is not trained=NOT a cop
@pfiberoptik I would not recommend the avg Joe to get involved in a robbery UNLESS he has had training at some point in his life and UNLESS the robber becomes crazed and starts waving the weapon around aimlessly (such as someone high or drunk). If it's a situation where the robber threatens to kill a cashier, then my choice would be to shoot the robber as he has made his threat. There are situations where a weapon should or shouldn't be use. Hard to describe each situation in just 500 characters
@music04777 If an avg Joe is in a situation, then I recommend him / her taking note of the description of the robber and assist the police in that manner, this is providing that there is no immediate danger to anyone's lives.
@music04777 Also, and i say so respectfully - in this scenario, with a gun pointed at a cashier, wouldn't a LEO have the cause and obligation to shoot the robber immediately? (the same as if he even turned the weapon towards a LEO?)
Therefore, if I were to draw my weapon at ALL in that scenario, the robber would never get the chance hear the words "drop it"...he would be seeing a bright light at the end of a tunnel instead.
@pfiberoptik Yes, in that position where the gun was actually pointed ... (or in the process of being pointed) at a cashier, a LEO would certainly have the right to fire his weapon in defense of the unarmed person. If a robber slowly tries to point his weapon at the cashier then a simple "drop the weapon" may save lives but depending on how fast the robber may be could make a large difference between his life and death.
@music04777 Thanks for sharing, that is the one of the first logical arguments I've heard for this. Although, I do suppose that this theory does depend heavily on the officer "seeing" the badge. Thanks for watching, commenting and supporting my channel.
@music04777 Dang u Fletch, I was about to comment and say the same thing. You do indeed make a good point music04777. The only rebuttal I can find is that the basic premise of your argument essentially relies upon being mistaken as a Police Officer ( I almost want to use the word Impersonate, but that term is too inflammatory in this debate) in the heat of the moment or when your shirt lifts up in Walmart...nobody will actually read the badge - they'll just see Badge and assume u r LEO.
Continued: @music04777 In the end, something just does not feel right about that to me. However, if you are former law enforcement, I suppose that does in fact entitle you to a bit of grey area there and you may feel a little more comfortable than me wearing a CCW badge since although my Father, Mother and brother were LEOs, I did not pursue that career choice.
I have a CCW badge. I bought it for Halloween. I also have a police jacket, also bought for Halloween. That's about the only reason I can see for that
Badges are a dime a dozen. The only time they mean anything to me is on a uniformed officer who is driving a municipality vehicle. Otherwise it is just a cheap piece of tin with no real meaning.
I am a female and I'm not the world's strongest person. I don't want to open carry because, besides getting too much attention, it would also be too easy for somebody to just grab my gun off of me. I would definitely not want to ever HAVE to wear a badge.
if I was LE and I saw one I would tell the guy to never wear it again. wouldent arrested him or detain him or threaten him just a friendly warning then again PD's dont want officers like me, "Peace Officer"
haveing something like that might be construde as impersonating a law enforcement officer and that is punishable with prison time
bearnoverdrive 4 days ago
well there is such a thing as the concealed carry badge not sure why you would need the "badge " (novelty ) i guess
MrFatguywithagun 1 month ago
@MrFatguywithagun Hmmm, not sure where this comment is coming from... I showed several examples of them in my vid and where one could buy them, (why or for what reason is beyound me) so am I missing something here?
FletchBZMMT 4 weeks ago
I am a retired police officer (originally from another state than the one I live in now), and I do carry a CWP badge on either my belt or my holster. For reason that IF I should ever have to draw or use my weapon in self defense or in defense of someone else where the police will drive up and see my weapon drawn, they will also see the badge which is much better than yelling and trying to tell them that you have a paper license in your wallet or pocket.
music04777 1 month ago
@music04777 EXAMPLE: You are in a convenience store, someone comes in and tries to rob the cashier. You drawn your weapon and order the would-be robber to drop his weapon, (whether it be a gun or knife). He drops it but you are unsure if he may have another weapon so you keep your weapon drawn on him til the police arrive.
music04777 1 month ago
@music04777 Once the police arrive I would much rather them see the badge so that they know that I'm NOT the one who was trying to rob the store. Believe me, they will figure that out quickly once they see the would-be robber laying on the floor with his hands behind his head.
music04777 1 month ago
@music04777 Another reason is guns make other people nervous when they see them. Having a concealed weapon badge upon your person DOES tend to reduce jitters in others in the event that they may see your weapon. It does happen. You could be in a store reaching for the top shelf, your shirt slides up and wham there's your concealed weapon right in the public's eye. That one HAS happened to me once in the past, my CCW badge did reduce stress by 100%.
music04777 1 month ago
@music04777 Also, I'd like to mention that if you're going to carry the CCW badge, don't buy the commonly advertised ones. Have one of your own made with your name engraved on it. (Of course make sure the name engraved on the badge is the same as the name on your driver's license).
music04777 1 month ago
@music04777 This specific example would be the same regardless of the badge though wouldn't it? The bad guy lying on the floor with their hands behind their back, and your drawn down on them? Not trying to pick a fight brother, just hashing this around. Thanks.
FletchBZMMT 4 weeks ago
@music04777 I really hate to point this out and love a friendly debate and do want want to instigate as pissing contest or anything...LOL...BUT,...in that scenario I would not need to worry about a badge or a permit, as i would NOT engage to stop that robbery unless a) he discharged the weapon, either to scare, kill, or ND, or b) He pointed it at me or in my direction. Again as a former LEO, your training may kick in and dictate otherwise and be perfectly OK. The avg Joe is not trained=NOT a cop
pfiberoptik 4 weeks ago
@pfiberoptik I would not recommend the avg Joe to get involved in a robbery UNLESS he has had training at some point in his life and UNLESS the robber becomes crazed and starts waving the weapon around aimlessly (such as someone high or drunk). If it's a situation where the robber threatens to kill a cashier, then my choice would be to shoot the robber as he has made his threat. There are situations where a weapon should or shouldn't be use. Hard to describe each situation in just 500 characters
music04777 3 weeks ago
@music04777 If an avg Joe is in a situation, then I recommend him / her taking note of the description of the robber and assist the police in that manner, this is providing that there is no immediate danger to anyone's lives.
music04777 3 weeks ago
@music04777 Also, and i say so respectfully - in this scenario, with a gun pointed at a cashier, wouldn't a LEO have the cause and obligation to shoot the robber immediately? (the same as if he even turned the weapon towards a LEO?)
Therefore, if I were to draw my weapon at ALL in that scenario, the robber would never get the chance hear the words "drop it"...he would be seeing a bright light at the end of a tunnel instead.
pfiberoptik 4 weeks ago
@pfiberoptik Yes, in that position where the gun was actually pointed ... (or in the process of being pointed) at a cashier, a LEO would certainly have the right to fire his weapon in defense of the unarmed person. If a robber slowly tries to point his weapon at the cashier then a simple "drop the weapon" may save lives but depending on how fast the robber may be could make a large difference between his life and death.
music04777 3 weeks ago
@music04777 Thanks for sharing, that is the one of the first logical arguments I've heard for this. Although, I do suppose that this theory does depend heavily on the officer "seeing" the badge. Thanks for watching, commenting and supporting my channel.
FletchBZMMT 1 month ago
@music04777 Dang u Fletch, I was about to comment and say the same thing. You do indeed make a good point music04777. The only rebuttal I can find is that the basic premise of your argument essentially relies upon being mistaken as a Police Officer ( I almost want to use the word Impersonate, but that term is too inflammatory in this debate) in the heat of the moment or when your shirt lifts up in Walmart...nobody will actually read the badge - they'll just see Badge and assume u r LEO.
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Continued: @music04777 In the end, something just does not feel right about that to me. However, if you are former law enforcement, I suppose that does in fact entitle you to a bit of grey area there and you may feel a little more comfortable than me wearing a CCW badge since although my Father, Mother and brother were LEOs, I did not pursue that career choice.
Thanks for the great civil discussion!
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Badges? We don't need no stinking badges! Lol great video bro, I totall agree with you!
johnmed3 1 month ago
@johnmed3 Thanks, appreciate your comment.
FletchBZMMT 1 month ago
I have a CCW badge. I bought it for Halloween. I also have a police jacket, also bought for Halloween. That's about the only reason I can see for that
Jerry68W 1 month ago
@Jerry68W Thanks for commenting.
FletchBZMMT 1 month ago
If someone showed be a CCW badge I'd laugh at their ass
gmaster45612374 1 month ago
@gmaster45612374 Agreed.
FletchBZMMT 1 month ago
Badges are a dime a dozen. The only time they mean anything to me is on a uniformed officer who is driving a municipality vehicle. Otherwise it is just a cheap piece of tin with no real meaning.
Norskand67 1 month ago
@Norskand67 Thanks for commenting.
FletchBZMMT 1 month ago
I have a badge that says "Bad Motherfucker". I like to show it to the police to get leniency. ,>
pfiberoptik 1 month ago
@pfiberoptik Good one, thanks for commenting.
FletchBZMMT 1 month ago
I am a female and I'm not the world's strongest person. I don't want to open carry because, besides getting too much attention, it would also be too easy for somebody to just grab my gun off of me. I would definitely not want to ever HAVE to wear a badge.
prepperfrau 2 months ago
@prepperfrau Good points, thanks for sharing.
FletchBZMMT 1 month ago
I open-carry.
DEB0714 2 months ago
@DEB0714 Not for me, but I fully support your right to do that! Thanks for the comment.
FletchBZMMT 1 month ago
To fool sheeple that your a cop I guess?
MrMuscleBilly 2 months ago
@MrMuscleBilly Haha yeah, maybe that would be hand in SHTF/WROL situation or something... LoL
FletchBZMMT 2 months ago
permits are for slaves...real AMericans exercise their liberty and will defend the right ...
sovereignliberty 2 months ago
@sovereignliberty Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.
FletchBZMMT 2 months ago
We are chl holders..... We carry a badge... Da da da da dragnet theme lol
bisonhawk1 2 months ago
@bisonhawk1 Good one! ;-)
FletchBZMMT 2 months ago
@neacie71 Agreed, I wish Constitutional carry was the recognized Statutory Law everywhere!
FletchBZMMT 2 months ago
if I was LE and I saw one I would tell the guy to never wear it again. wouldent arrested him or detain him or threaten him just a friendly warning then again PD's dont want officers like me, "Peace Officer"
iowndunoob 2 months ago
@iowndunoob Thanks for sharing. I think I get your drift. ;-)
FletchBZMMT 2 months ago
You are 100% right, that goofy badge would probably end up getting you arrested for impersonation of a law officer
beelikestowatch 2 months ago
@beelikestowatch Thanks for commenting, much appreciated.
FletchBZMMT 2 months ago
@neacie71 Understood, thanks girl!
FletchBZMMT 2 months ago