An Italian Turni 6.5 Carcano (regardless of Oliver Stone's/Kevin "Garrison" Costner's bullsh*t) is a formidable weapon after 50 years in the hands of an average shooter. I own one with the 4X18 Japanese offset Scope as mounted on Oswald's rifle. I have not had any Conspiracy Volunteers willing to stand downrange while I demonstrate 3 shots in under 8 seconds. The "truth" that you all "seek" is in the National Archives and within the volumes of the Warren Commission. This is called "evidence".
Sorry Conspiracy Lunatics, but there were over 20,000 open windows along the motorcade route that day. To this date, 2011, you have not one "shred" of physical evidence to suggest that anyone other than Lee Harvey Oswald murdered Kennedy. To note that there were a few open windows in the DAL-TEX building is like saying a few people hated John F. Kennedy. Why is this evidence of a conspiracy? The evidence for the Government's case lies in the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission. Check it out.
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. people with logical minds (those who KNOW that a conspiracy to murder the president existed) understand this. The rest of you are not intellectually equipped to deal with that particular concept.
@are evideLiquorWreckedEmGood You are absent when it comes to the vast evidence against Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone assassin. His past, his employment, the paper trail that he alone left with reference to the rifle, his presence in the building, the witnesses, the ballistics, the medical autopsy, all lead straight back to Oswald and no one else. Conspiracy theory is a multi-million dollar cottage industry in America, and those people are laughing their ass off on the way to the bank.
what vast evidence? his past? so he lived in the soviet union. you're forgetting that he was allowed back in the US for some reason by govt officials. an unusual and suspicious move by them, not by LHO. employment? ruth paine got him the job at the TSBD. ruth paine worked for the CIA. so did her husband. the rifle found in the TSBD was a mauser, not a carcano. the ballistics say it was LHO's gun but his prints weren't on it at the time it was tested (his palm print later added).
once again Burt, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. that is a rule of logic that even you cannot weasel out of.
you must prove your case. LHO never had the luxury of a trial. he was allowed to be murdered in the very basement of the very same people who claimed it was his gun, his fingerprints, and put out an all points on his description when he was but 1 of a dozen "missing" workers in the TSBD following the assassination.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood ....and another thing I don't understand is why 5/6 cops turn up to arrest one man (Oswald) for not buying a movie ticket. The box office assistant phoning the police didn't say "hey there's a guy here who might have killed the president" ...WTF ??? Maybe Oswald was going to the theatre to meet his CIA handler so the police already knew where he was going to be ?
the cops showed up at the texas theater because a shoe store clerk next door saw oswald come into the front of his store and "act suspicious". he claimed that oswald matched the description of the person seen leaving the tippit murder. trouble is, oswald had on a different colored shirt, different color trousers, and no jacket. he didn't fit the description at all. the other problem is that the theater concession manager saw oswald come in about 8 minutes before tippit got shot.
Butch Burroughs, ticket taker and concession operator at the theater on the day.
youtube.com/watch?v=5p4AvezLnG0
Lone Nut theorists like to elevate Johnny Brewer's story over that of Butch (Brewer worked at the shoe store next door and said he saw a man matching the tippit killer's description acting suspiciously at the front of his store). Can't think why because LHO failed to match the radio description IN EVERY RESPECT.
Butch Burroughs, ticket taker and concession operator at the theater on the day.
youtube.com/watch?v=5p4AvezLnG0
Lone Nut theorists like to elevate Johnny Brewer's story over that of Butch (Brewer worked at the shoe store next door and said he saw a man matching the tippit killer's description acting suspiciously at the front of his store). Can't think why because LHO failed to match the radio description IN EVERY RESPECT.
@funkmasterjee - Exactly! Oswald's intel handlers knew he was SUPPOSED to meet a contact there. Oswald was an intel grunt who was working under deep cover on assignment, thinking he was exposing this cell that was planning to off the Prez, only to find he was either set up to take the fall somehow, or the bust went bad and the Prez was shot due to incompetence, etc...he didn't know WTF was going down, but it wasn't good, he knew that.
the fact that the JFK assassination has turned into a cottage industry does not mean that there wasn't a true conspiracy. once again, that sort of reasoning is illogical. (all dogs have facial hair, aristotle has facial hair, ergo aristotle is a dog).
@LiquorWreckedEmGood This is the Altgen:s photo of an open window in the Dal-Tex building. Still no suspect, rifle, empty shell casings, etc. According to the Secret Service there were approximately 20,000 open windows along the motorcade route in Dallas on 11/22/1963. One of those happened to be the Southwest Corner 6th floor window of the TSBD, where relevant evidence was found. I am of Irish decent, so I really do like the song in this video Not anything else here is of value to me.
of the 20,000 open windows in dallas that day, how many of them formed a triangulation of gunfire in the JFK kill zone?
Dal-Tex chosen because it offered the earliest clear line of fire once the limo turned and was committed to elm street. then TSBD. then the grassy knoll. 11 shots fired. one hit the stemmons freeway sign. that sign was immediately removed and never seen again.
lack of evidence points to a pro hit, that's all.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood At this point the scenario I favor is a team of primary shooters in an office on the 2nd or 3rd floor of the TSBD with back up shooters on the Knoll. I also agree that the "snipers nest" was a ruse.
@conspiracydog11 Two TSBD employees on the 5th floor said they heard 'boom, click, boom, click, boom' from the floor directly above them.
I believe there was a shooter SOMEWHERE on the 6th floor but there were two other shooters, one probably in the Daltex and the other near where the picket fence meets the triple overpass
@funkmasterjee I agree, shooters in the Daltex were possible but I have always had credibility problems with the 5'th floor witnesses. I grew up here in the South and I have seen people in authority being told what they want to hear. The witness statements sound somewhat manufactured in my opinion.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Interesting point. When was the Stemmons freeway sign removed? Does anyone know the exact date and the given reason? If it was within several months of the assassination I would agree it's highly suspicious and probably for the reason you say
@BlueWolfe38 Oswald's backyard photos rifle had bottom mounted rings for a sling and no sling was present. The gun in the depository had a side attached sling and a sling on it! Different rifles-a frame-up!
@TrueNovice No I meant the video is poorly done. There is better info regarding this on other you tube pages. This was annoying and had no point as it did not share new info..it just irritated.
sniper's nest. many people, including me, believe that there were three 2-man teams working in Dealey Plaza that day. 2 on the 3rd floor of the Dal-Tex building. 2 in the TSBD (one on the roof). And 2 on the grassy knoll. 11 shots fired, 2 each save for the guy who took the head shot. He only needed one.
@Doppelganger399 - Figure it out by thinking a little....another sniper's nest obviously. Open your mind and let the real truth come in...it's enlightening and painful. You don't think CIA rogues are capable of eliminating the Prez if they want to? They did it.
Now can we all go watch paint dry to recover from this excruciatingly BORING vid?
KevE63 1 week ago
Looks remarkably like the so called 'snipers nest' on the 6th floor of the TSBD. Boxes piled up to rest a rifle on ?
funkmasterjee 1 week ago
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An Italian Turni 6.5 Carcano (regardless of Oliver Stone's/Kevin "Garrison" Costner's bullsh*t) is a formidable weapon after 50 years in the hands of an average shooter. I own one with the 4X18 Japanese offset Scope as mounted on Oswald's rifle. I have not had any Conspiracy Volunteers willing to stand downrange while I demonstrate 3 shots in under 8 seconds. The "truth" that you all "seek" is in the National Archives and within the volumes of the Warren Commission. This is called "evidence".
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
Sorry Conspiracy Lunatics, but there were over 20,000 open windows along the motorcade route that day. To this date, 2011, you have not one "shred" of physical evidence to suggest that anyone other than Lee Harvey Oswald murdered Kennedy. To note that there were a few open windows in the DAL-TEX building is like saying a few people hated John F. Kennedy. Why is this evidence of a conspiracy? The evidence for the Government's case lies in the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission. Check it out.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. people with logical minds (those who KNOW that a conspiracy to murder the president existed) understand this. The rest of you are not intellectually equipped to deal with that particular concept.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@are evideLiquorWreckedEmGood You are absent when it comes to the vast evidence against Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone assassin. His past, his employment, the paper trail that he alone left with reference to the rifle, his presence in the building, the witnesses, the ballistics, the medical autopsy, all lead straight back to Oswald and no one else. Conspiracy theory is a multi-million dollar cottage industry in America, and those people are laughing their ass off on the way to the bank.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
what vast evidence? his past? so he lived in the soviet union. you're forgetting that he was allowed back in the US for some reason by govt officials. an unusual and suspicious move by them, not by LHO. employment? ruth paine got him the job at the TSBD. ruth paine worked for the CIA. so did her husband. the rifle found in the TSBD was a mauser, not a carcano. the ballistics say it was LHO's gun but his prints weren't on it at the time it was tested (his palm print later added).
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
the paraffin test of LHO's cheek and hands was negative indicating he didn't fire a gun.
as for the medical autopsy, watch this clip:
youtube.com/watch?v=sTuxgGgPBss
particularly 17:45 - 29:25
these men are not flakes or "conspiracy nuts". they are giving us facts about their lives and how those facts tie into the JFK conspiracy.
the first part of the video puts forth the proposition that one of the shooters (head shot) was in the storm drain.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
once again Burt, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. that is a rule of logic that even you cannot weasel out of.
you must prove your case. LHO never had the luxury of a trial. he was allowed to be murdered in the very basement of the very same people who claimed it was his gun, his fingerprints, and put out an all points on his description when he was but 1 of a dozen "missing" workers in the TSBD following the assassination.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood ....and another thing I don't understand is why 5/6 cops turn up to arrest one man (Oswald) for not buying a movie ticket. The box office assistant phoning the police didn't say "hey there's a guy here who might have killed the president" ...WTF ??? Maybe Oswald was going to the theatre to meet his CIA handler so the police already knew where he was going to be ?
funkmasterjee 1 week ago
@funkmasterjee
the cops showed up at the texas theater because a shoe store clerk next door saw oswald come into the front of his store and "act suspicious". he claimed that oswald matched the description of the person seen leaving the tippit murder. trouble is, oswald had on a different colored shirt, different color trousers, and no jacket. he didn't fit the description at all. the other problem is that the theater concession manager saw oswald come in about 8 minutes before tippit got shot.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 week ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood - Are you sure about the timing? Oswald went into the Theater AFTER Tippit was shot? What is your source for that.
Tomaji69 1 week ago
@Tomaji69
Butch Burroughs, ticket taker and concession operator at the theater on the day.
youtube.com/watch?v=5p4AvezLnG0
Lone Nut theorists like to elevate Johnny Brewer's story over that of Butch (Brewer worked at the shoe store next door and said he saw a man matching the tippit killer's description acting suspiciously at the front of his store). Can't think why because LHO failed to match the radio description IN EVERY RESPECT.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 week ago
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@Tomaji69
Butch Burroughs, ticket taker and concession operator at the theater on the day.
youtube.com/watch?v=5p4AvezLnG0
Lone Nut theorists like to elevate Johnny Brewer's story over that of Butch (Brewer worked at the shoe store next door and said he saw a man matching the tippit killer's description acting suspiciously at the front of his store). Can't think why because LHO failed to match the radio description IN EVERY RESPECT.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 week ago
@funkmasterjee - Exactly! Oswald's intel handlers knew he was SUPPOSED to meet a contact there. Oswald was an intel grunt who was working under deep cover on assignment, thinking he was exposing this cell that was planning to off the Prez, only to find he was either set up to take the fall somehow, or the bust went bad and the Prez was shot due to incompetence, etc...he didn't know WTF was going down, but it wasn't good, he knew that.
Tomaji69 1 week ago
@BlueWolfe38
the fact that the JFK assassination has turned into a cottage industry does not mean that there wasn't a true conspiracy. once again, that sort of reasoning is illogical. (all dogs have facial hair, aristotle has facial hair, ergo aristotle is a dog).
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
The Other Zapruder Film:
youtube.com/watch?v=hSdyqDBTpeo
nobody selling nothin'. just getting the information out.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood This is the Altgen:s photo of an open window in the Dal-Tex building. Still no suspect, rifle, empty shell casings, etc. According to the Secret Service there were approximately 20,000 open windows along the motorcade route in Dallas on 11/22/1963. One of those happened to be the Southwest Corner 6th floor window of the TSBD, where relevant evidence was found. I am of Irish decent, so I really do like the song in this video Not anything else here is of value to me.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
you are a very easy man to fool. i am not.
of the 20,000 open windows in dallas that day, how many of them formed a triangulation of gunfire in the JFK kill zone?
Dal-Tex chosen because it offered the earliest clear line of fire once the limo turned and was committed to elm street. then TSBD. then the grassy knoll. 11 shots fired. one hit the stemmons freeway sign. that sign was immediately removed and never seen again.
lack of evidence points to a pro hit, that's all.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood At this point the scenario I favor is a team of primary shooters in an office on the 2nd or 3rd floor of the TSBD with back up shooters on the Knoll. I also agree that the "snipers nest" was a ruse.
conspiracydog11 1 month ago
@conspiracydog11 Two TSBD employees on the 5th floor said they heard 'boom, click, boom, click, boom' from the floor directly above them.
I believe there was a shooter SOMEWHERE on the 6th floor but there were two other shooters, one probably in the Daltex and the other near where the picket fence meets the triple overpass
funkmasterjee 1 week ago
@funkmasterjee I agree, shooters in the Daltex were possible but I have always had credibility problems with the 5'th floor witnesses. I grew up here in the South and I have seen people in authority being told what they want to hear. The witness statements sound somewhat manufactured in my opinion.
conspiracydog11 1 week ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Interesting point. When was the Stemmons freeway sign removed? Does anyone know the exact date and the given reason? If it was within several months of the assassination I would agree it's highly suspicious and probably for the reason you say
funkmasterjee 1 week ago
@BlueWolfe38
the evidence they did find, at the SE window of the TSBD they were SUPPOSED to find.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 Oswald's backyard photos rifle had bottom mounted rings for a sling and no sling was present. The gun in the depository had a side attached sling and a sling on it! Different rifles-a frame-up!
tregoj1 1 month ago
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Is this what goes on in this "assassination forum" of yours? This is the most impressive fail of a video I have ever seen.
ert94464isback 3 months ago
These Evil LBJ statements WE believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv
LBJ Evil joke about JFK
"I told? him that morning at breakfast...Son, I'm afraid this just ant' your day. Your going to the morgue and I'm going back to the White House"
JFK
J ustice
F or
K ennedy
cruisersism 4 months ago
@cruisersism
i don't hear that on the video clip you refer to....
no288 2 months ago
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@no288 If you cant see it because you are not reading between the lines and the facial expressions.
cruisersism 2 months ago
So what is the problem?
There's a box in that building. Oh noe... the box did it?!
DutchManticore 6 months ago
What was the point of this?
newfypearl 1 year ago 2
@newfypearl Think it's supposed to be another possible snipers lair with the window open.
TrueNovice 11 months ago
@TrueNovice No I meant the video is poorly done. There is better info regarding this on other you tube pages. This was annoying and had no point as it did not share new info..it just irritated.
newfypearl 11 months ago
totally pointless
TonyBananas101 1 year ago 2
That music made me want to run into a wall head first, ok thers a box in the daltex which means what????
Doppelganger399 1 year ago 7
@Doppelganger399
sniper's nest. many people, including me, believe that there were three 2-man teams working in Dealey Plaza that day. 2 on the 3rd floor of the Dal-Tex building. 2 in the TSBD (one on the roof). And 2 on the grassy knoll. 11 shots fired, 2 each save for the guy who took the head shot. He only needed one.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@Doppelganger399 It's a hole in the window to shoot from.
tregoj1 1 month ago
@Doppelganger399 - Figure it out by thinking a little....another sniper's nest obviously. Open your mind and let the real truth come in...it's enlightening and painful. You don't think CIA rogues are capable of eliminating the Prez if they want to? They did it.
Tomaji69 1 week ago
WTF?!
todmaffin 1 year ago 3