Israel can't win no matter what it does. If an arab throws a rock at a passing IDF vehicle their fighting valiantly but if the IDF attacks and kills hundreds of hezbollah their perceived as losing and desperate. The palestinians watch hezbollah launch rockets into isreali villages and deleberately kill civilians and then demands an apology when the IDF hits back? Sounds like the deck is stacked against israel.
fuck you Isreal and all Zionist scumbags.go to Madagascar and steal from eachother and leave everyone else alone.we are sick of you thieving murderous mother fuckers.fucking rippoffs,go to hell.
"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).
If Israel was the 51st state, then the number of dead Lebanese in this war would have been about 4 million, like in Vietnam, or at least 150,000, like in Iraq, ant not just ~1,000 like it was..
In fact, my guess is that if some terrorist group took control over Mexico and started firing missiles into any state in the U.S.A, it would probably end up with some Carpet-Bombings and a couple of Nucs - like it happened in Japan..
If Israel is the 51st state then the U.S. was a pussy in this case.. ;)
@Odedisra Terrorist group took control over Mexico? dude. I hope that is not an allogy to The palestinians taking control over Gaza. Firstly, they did not take control of it...it was their land from the start, the zionist entity came in , invading their land by setting up an illegal state within a state, then after the 1948 and 1967 wars israel stole a high percentage of land without legally annexing it, and they illegaly build settlemnts on Palestinian land in the west Bank. They are defending.
1) Texas, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, and most parts of Wyoming, Colorado and New Mexico - these are all parts of Mexico that were stolen by U.S.A between 1836 and 1848.. And what if those "Terrorists" were Indians in Mexico who wanted to kill all white people? Would you take it up your ass quietly in such case?
2) Wiki the words: "Zion" and "Land of Israel" - they were used by Jews who lived, and had kingdoms on this land, for 1800 years before Arabs occupied it.
This video, and my comment, are about the war in Lebanon in 2006 - not about Gaza or "Palestinians".
There are no Jewish settlements, or any kind of occupation in Lebanon since 2000 (and, BTW, it should be noted that there are no-more settlements or occupation in Gaza since 2005).
The settlements - no matter how stupid some of which may be - are not a big problem. It could be solved in a two-sate solution. The big problem is that most Arabs want to Eliminate the Jewish state..
@Odedisra Well sorry for mistaking you about gaza and lebanon. But see the reason that most arabs, or Semites( Palestinians /jews/ and arabs) do not want to recognize the state of Israel, is because Israel has not recognized the legitimacy of the Palestinians. So bassicaly we are supposed to make love with people who came into our homeland, took 3/4 of the land, illegaly annexed other land, and pushed us out into refugee camps because they believe their race deserves it more? I think not. Peace
@The100black100 Well, the countries who are members in the Arab League have, all-together, ~13,000,000Km2 of land (30% more than the USA!) - most of which was occupied by force during the last 1350 years. Its hard to see how Israel's ~20,000Km2 (smaller than New Jersey!) make 3/4 of "Arab land"..
As for "Palestinians" (Arabs, like all others, who happened to be occupying the area defined as "Palestine" in 1920) - Israel has recognized their legitimacy in 1947, but they started the war..
@Odedisra Interesting. But what you fail to realise, and maybe its my own fault, is that by arab land i men he land of Palestine. They took about 3/4s of the land in the beginning...Palestinians are their own race classified under arabs and arabs are classified under semites, just like jews. So its not the Palestinians fault for what ever any other arab country has done in the past 2000 years.But what we should focus on is what israel has done today, yesterday, and 63 years ago. Peace
@The100black100 The "Land of Palestine" you're talking about didn't exist before WW1, and there were no "People" or "Race" (LOL!) called "Palestinians". The entire area of what became later "Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudia, etc" was all one Arabic Region under Muslim Ottoman Empire. Like all artificial Arab States the borders of "Palestine" were artificially established by the British&French between 1917 and 1923 And at first they included Jordan -So I guess you got 3/4 first..
@The100black100 Anyway, the question isn't about what happened 133 years ago when Petah Tikva was established; And not about the establishment of the first neighborhood of Tel-Aviv in 1887; And not about the "Palestine riots" (in 1920, 1921, 1929, 1936-1939, etc) in which hundreds of Jews were murdered (long before the Arabs had the excuse of "occupation&oppression"); And not about 1948 or even 1967. The question is: "Are the Pal's willing to live in peace alongside the Jewish state TOMORROW?!".
1) All Jews are "Semites" (especially the "Ashkenazi" ones, if this is what you were hinting); about half of them live in Israel, and ~90% of the rest recognize and support Israel's right to exist as a free national home for Jews.
2) If you have on your channel a map of ENTIRE Mandatory Palestine including all of Israel, and you're calling for ALL of it to be "freed" (meaning it should return to Arab Imperialist occupation) then you're just calling for another Nakba..
@eyalgolan96 Your statement contradicts itself. Although you would like us to think that Israel's enemies are the West's, that is not the case at all. It is the West's support for Israel that makes them a target of Islamic extremism / terrorist. As you said, it would be rather easy for them to come in to the US via the Mexico border and whatever, but they don't! Do they? 9/11 was found to be partly motivated by US support for Israel, per the 9/11 commission report.
I see America's affiliation with Israel as Thomas Jefferson once said of slavery--"it is like holding a wolf by the ears, you don't like it, but you don't dare let it go." At this point in world history, any concession to muslims anywhere is a huge step backwards for the human race.
Yup Israel is a state of America, every year we pay 30 billion dollars to these Zionist fascists. May Israel the nation burn and may its rightful people the Palestinians take it back.
You And your kind pay nothing but use and abuse Canada's welfare while at the same time despise your kind hosts way of living, our democratic values and attempt to shove that primitive shariaa down our throats.
Please, either accept the Western or go back to the middle eastern hole you came from
@errataification That is what you think, you sir are so one sided and believe everything the government says, i know you love israel but that is not their land, the jews of israel were European jews kicked out of every country in Europe like Gypsies. I know you are ignorant and dont understand but you really need to know how the world thinks.
This is sscary but true. The US government has been infiltrated with these zionist like this guy who put Israel before America any damn day. These are the people Nixon and Billy Graham talked about on that famous phone called nixon recorded when Graham said we have to get them out of the US governmemnt. Many like Michael Chertof have duel citizenship, who the heck do you think their allegences are to? I'm not anti jewish, I love the jews, I just dont want America to be a tool of Israel's evil!
So what is Israel going to do with all the millions of Palestinians? Those people are not going away, and they have the same drive toward nationalism that the Jewish people have. They will never be content with a South African system with supposed "self government" but no real rights. If Israel annexes the West Bank, which seems inevitable, they will eventually face a Palestinian Nelson Mandela, who will make the "one person, one vote" very persuasively to US audiences.
@DandAinTac They won't annex the West Bank or Gaza. You know why? b/c they don't want to "undermine the Jewish character of Israel." That's why they refuse to recognize the right of return. That's why they refuse to give up any settlements or make any real concessions towards peace, whereas they demand that Palestine give up the right of return (enshrined in int'l law), that they honor illegal settlements, that they give up the right to a military etc. Bibi just wants more land and no peace.
@DandAinTac In my opinion, Palestine should just say "fine, you want West Bank and Gaza? Here take it. But in return, you must annex ALL of the Palestinian refugees in the world effective IMMEDIATELY." That way, palestinians can gain power through the Knesset, and before long...BAM! DEMOCRACY! Then change the name to "Palestine & Israel"
This is the dilemma for Israel--they want all the land, which is why they are building settlements. Palestinians are often heavily criticized for having maps that don't show Israel--just all of the land marked as "Palestine". I have a Jewish aunt and cousin. She showed me a book about Israel that some Israeli relatives gave her. Guess what--there was not boundary marked on the map for the occupied territories--it was all marked Israel. But the Palestinians aren't going away.
Buchanan's voice is so annoying. Everything is just arrogant yelling. Matches his sick soul. The great defender of Justice who's only real claim to fame is that he was the adviser to a US president who had to resign in shame in order to avoid impeachment. Yeh, Pat, you're the paradigm of morality that should be lecturing others. Btw Pat, if the Bank was used to launch missiles on residents, the US would blow up the bank, just like it did the Branch Davidians-you self righteous bigot.
This is one of the few times when I agree with Pat Buchanan, and believe me, I never would have thought that could happen. Israel could never be the 51st state, as the title of this clip suggests, because then they would have to grant citizenship to ALL the people living in their country, and not discriminate against anyone based on religion, and give everyone equal rights, equal protection under the law, and the right to vote. They don't want to do that.
@DandAinTac Israel has given citizenship to Muslim Darfur refugees, Vietnamese refugees, gives equal rights to all religous & ethnic groups (Arabs serve in the Parliament, on the Supreme Court of Israel), etc. Yes, Israel has an automatic citizenship for Jews who wish to immigrate, but that's because the country was built on the ashes of WWII when millions died cause they had no home for refuge. Buchanan's line (it's not our war) was held by his ilk up till WWII; until Pearl Harbor of course.
@mrtruthforever Yes, I've heard all the good things Israel does, as long as those who are not Jewish are safely kept in the minority, and broad swaths of people living in land the Israelis claim for themselves are denied citizenship and human rights. The Holocaust does not automatically grant Israel the right to act in ways we would condemn were it any other nation.
@DandAinTac Denies citizenship & Human Rights? I guess that's why it has had & currently has an Arab Supreme Court Justice to decide the legality of its laws, and a myriad of religious & ethnic groups in the Pariliament. Maybe after you finish with your bigotry against Israel, you can start to worry about Human Rights of the thousands being shot in Syria or women, kids, & gays hung in public centers in Iran, or Sharia law in Saudi Arabia, etc.
@mrtruthforever Do you deny that Israel does not grant citizenship or rights to the millions of Palestinians in their control? They've occupied the West Bank and Gaza for decades, and have all but officially claimed it as their own, and are actively building settlements on that land. Either grant everyone equal rights and be one nation, one people, or withdraw and let them have their own nation. It is astonishing that a call for equality and equal rights can be called "bigotry".
@DandAinTac Regarding the West Bank, it is under the control of the Pal Authority & is experiencing one of the largest prolonged economic growth rates in the middle east. Israel was there, again, after regional wars & Jordan (which occupied the area-it) pulled out. Israel once again, was left with abandoned territory serving as a terrorist base for PLO (which the Jordanians tried to wipe out in Black Sept). Israel has no interest in controlling Pals.
@mrtruthforever "Please refer everyone on this site to all the youtube sites where you've denounced Syria, Libya, Saudia Arabia, Iran, etc." Is this a litmus test? In order to criticize Israel, you have to criticize the others? Nonsense. I already have on this clip. Can you refer everyone on this site to the youtube site where you've denounced North Korea? Hmmm? Well? Where are your posts? Come on. Everyone knows these countries are awful. It's a no brainer, and non-controversial.
@mrtruthforever "Israel has no interest in controlling Pals" I actually agree with this. Israel wants nothing to do with the Palestinians if they can help it. They just want all the land. Otherwise, why all the settlements? That's a problem though--isn't it? If they take all the land, then they have to take all the people and treat them as equals or else they are NOT a democracy. Otherwise withdraw from the WB and let the Palestinians have their own land. They can't have it both ways.
@DandAinTac Well said, I agree entiely. They have created the worlds largest open air prison, the people are treated no better than animals. Israel has lost the support of pretty much the whole world. The facts are, they are stealing the Palestinians' land and punishing them for resisting. As for being a Democracy, they may vote in their government but their system allows a small group of right wing fanatics to hold the balance of power. Also they are the world wealthiest welfare beneficiaies
@DandAinTac I know that sitting in the comfort of the US, you can't be bothered with little things like facts & history. Israel does not occupy Gaza. In fact, even Jewish towns that were there long before the notion of a separate Pal state & the massacres of jews there in the 20's have been uprooted. After Egypt occupied & pulled out Israel went in to protect Jews there & its borders. It pulled out hoping the gesture would bring peace. It brought Hamastan & thousands of missiles
@DandAinTac Regarding the West Bank, it is under the control of the Pal Authority & is experiencing one of the largest prolonged economic growth rates in the middle east. Israel was there due to regional wars & Jordan (which occupied the area) pulled out. Israel was left with territory serving as a PLO terrorist base (Jordan, fed-up by the Pal terrorism, killed thousands in Black Sept). Israel has no interest in controlling Pals. It just wants to have the luxury that you have in the US-peace.
@michaelfr613 "It just wants to have the luxury that you have in the US-peace." Well, I think there's a lot more they could be doing if this is what they really want. Does this desire for peace outweigh their desire to claim the West Bank as part of a greater Israel? the evidence does not seem to indicate this. If so, they would stop building settlements and remove them. It's hard to take any talk of peace seriously as long as they are engaged in settlement activity.
@DandAinTac The answer to your question is yes. Israel's desire for peace outweighs land claims. However, you need to understand (& one needs to be devoid of prejudices to do so) that such concessions are only to the point where it would mean suicide. Israel is only a few kilometers wide at certain points, so just blanket withdrawal from land w/o security considerations would be suicide. For peace, Israel gave up the Sinai to Egypt (resource rich & significantly bigger than the entire State).
@mrtruthforever "yes. Israel's desire for peace outweighs land claims" Really? Then how do you explain the settlements? There are 500,000 Israelis living in hundreds of settlements and "outposts" all over the west bank, with whole large sections off-limits to Palestinians. And how in the world do you equate the settlements with security? They are not army bases--if they were, it would be defensible (both morally and in a military sense). Israel's best security guarantee is to forge a just peace.
@DandAinTac "to just forge a peace" is nice sloganism spoken by someone living in the security of the US surrounded by 2 oceans, Canada & Mexico. As long as you are incapable of looking at things in their historical context, you are only vilifying & not really interested in peace. At the time those settlements began, long before the PLO, the disputed areas were abandoned by Jordan. Since Israel was vulnerable to invading armies to the east,it began to populate the highlands. From there it grew.
@mrtruthforever Where is this version of history located? I need to research it, since everything I have read indicates that Jordan occupied the West Bank from 1948 until they lost it to Israel in the 1967 war, at which time they ceded their claim on the West Bank to the PLO. I also notice you fancy the term "disputed" when describing the occupied territories, as if their is not an existing adjudication on the legal status, .i.e., ICJ decision (2004), UNSC Res.242 & 338.
@steute2011 The W bank (i.e., the W.Bank of Jordan, NOT "Pal"-never was any such Arab nation), was occupied by Jordan (vestige occup from it's attack on Israel in '48 ). The Arab occupation changed the historical Hebrew names of names of Judea & Samaria to the "W. Bank" of Jordan. After Israel defended itself against Jordan's '67 attack (when it joined Egypt,Syria,et al), 242 called for a negotiated settlement leaving Israel with secure & recognized boundaries (i.e. boundaries are in dispute)
@mrtruthforever I think we all know that there was never a state of Palestine, and that the territory was occupied by Jordan until 1967. Jordan ceded it's claim to the PLO and stripped the Palestinians of their Jordanian citizenship. If this is the argument you are using to say there is no occupation, then I would encourage you to read up on sovereignty and how it's applied, i.e., sovereignty is applied to indigenous people as well as states.
@mrtruthforever One quick point on the "attack" in 1967, there was an initial attack, but it came from Israel on Egypt, you do remember the "surprise attack" or as Israel called it at the time, a "preemptive strike". These actions are only considered defensive in nature when authorized by the UNSC. Now to the issue of 242, where in 242 does it say that "Israel" is to be left with secure and recognized borders? That application is for both sides.
@mrtruthforever Resolution 242 clearly states in the preamble, that the acquisition of territory by war is inadmissible. Also clearly requires the withdrawal of Israeli troops form territories occupied during the recent conflict. So what territories were occupied during the war of 1967? Yes, you guessed it...The West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Heights.
@steute2011 After the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, the Allied forces, divided the terriorty into states.Britain's Lord Balfour's proposal for a Jewish homeland included the W.Best & what is today known as Jordan. But when the British Mandate ended, UN resolution 181 ('47 partition plan) proposed 2 states west of Jord.The Arab states REFUSED it & went to war.The Arabs insisted that the cease fire line have NO significance. The '67 border was never a "border". The Wbank is disputed territory.
@mrtruthforever If you deem international law and the decisions of the adjudicative bodies to be null and void, then I guess they are 'disputed", even if only by Israel! As a signatory to the UN charter Israel is fully expected to abide by UN resolutions and international law.
@DandAinTac Let me just end these conversations with you on this note. As long as you&those like you, insist on a black/white interpretation (Israel is the bad guy, Pals are the good guys), there will never be peace. Peace requires respecting the other side's concerns. Israel has made peace with former enemies who acknowledged her right to live within secure borders. The day Hamas revises its charter, accepts "Infidels", grants non-Muslims equal rights to live amongst them, there will be peace.
@mrtruthforever Then I'll end on this note. My interpretation is not black/white. There are no good-guys in this insane conflict. Everyone has blood on their hands, and there's plenty of blame to go around. But if it is to ever be peace, Israel will have to bear a far greater burden in bringing about that end. They are the ones who are holding all the cards. They have the power, and will need to do the heavy lifting. The Palestinians have nothing. (continued)
@mrtruthforever Regarding the bad behavior of Syria, Saudi Arabia etc.--I am in now way defending them! They are appalling nations. But is this really what Israel wants to be compared to? "Well, yeah, we treat the Palestinians like shit, but at least we're not as bad as THEM!" Isn't that an awfully low bar to step over to compare to Iran? As a democracy (well, a partial democracy), I think we should be able to expect better of Israel. I think we can all agree Iran's government is horrible.
@DandAinTac Please refer everyone on this site to all the youtube sites where you've denounced Syria, Libya, Saudia Arabia, Iran, etc. You are extremely biased. Your channel page makes no reference to the atrocities they commit. You judge Israel by actions it took against Hamas, which has a charter disavowing compromise with non-Muslim "Infidels", intentionally targets civilians, rather than the status of Arabs in Israel which have & do serve on the Israel Supreme Court & Govt.
@mrtruthforever "You are extremely biased." Don't you think you might be just a bit biased toward Israel? My channel is bare bones--and there's much I don't have on my channel--like how bad Nazi Germany was on my channel. Does this make me pro-Nazi and anti-British? Come on--you just can't take any criticism of Israel. Is this your argument--to criticize me instead? As far as Hamas--I won't defend them. They're a terrorist organization--but then again so are the Kahanists.
@kemetkush You're full of shit. Many of the have been given refugee citizenship status. Israel does, as any other country would, enforce immigration laws against those who commit crimes while in the country illegally. But I see that that offends you more than the neighboring Arab & Muslim countries who shot refugess at their borders.
@kemetkush You're not only a sick fuck, you're also stupid (with atrocious English). Btw, that stupid video you sent was a general humanitarian march that included a myriad of groups & people of all ethnic groups: Green Peace, Peace Groups, etc. Let's see a march like that occur in downtown Damascus or Tehran or Libya or Saudi Arabia or Gaza.
@kemetkush Watch youtube/ZGa2_8tgsKw & you'll see mass numbers of Sudense refugees demonstrating in Israel to celebrate the decision of the International Criminal Court (ICC) to indict President Omar Al Bashir from Sudan for crimes against humanity & war crimes. They are waving Israeli flags and telling the world that Libya & neighboring African countries wouldn't accept them so they came for freedom to Israel. Many of them are Muslims.
@kemetkush What's full of shit? The testimonies & gathering of all the Sudanese in Israel thanking the country for taking them in while their neighboring countries wouldn't? Why don't you get off your ass & come to Israel and talk to them. No, better yet, stay where you are & stew in your psychotic hatred. Afterall, you need some fictional "villain" to hate, otherwise you'd have no purpose to your life. You prefer to believe one militant leftist than myriads of refugees.
@kemetkush Also look at youtu.be/WkmakYY6tE8. They came to Israel as illegal immigrants-refugees and within a short time they are voting for the first time in their lives in democratic elections. Look, you're a person living on the otherside of the world. You can choose to believe the antisemtic propoganda & hate or listen to the refugees themselves. If your soul feeds off hate & lies, you're the one who will ultimately be consumed by it.
you tell em.. whitey... its unfortunate... americans don't realize that they have been taken over by people like this zionist freak... some call them dual loyal,, i call them 100 percent israel loyal.. if u disagree , follow the pattern of military conflicts and the stance of america... sorry white people but its true... America is hijacked... No it hasn't been hijacked by them fundamentalist muzzzzlims.. but by ur usury friend the zionist jew..
"we the united states"...what a blatant lie... by definition they are traitors to both countries they claim to be "loyal" to. The interests of israel come before all things including the interests of the us.....these robot assholes are not in it for us, they do not represent anyone but the israeli monster. We need to realize that they always fight on BOTH sides of a conflict. We are being setup...again! As always the media will cover their lies.
America and Israel have become the same thing. Whomever their enemies are become ours. They declared a war on terror decades ago and now we have one. Total Zionism.
@haroos before 1948, the usa never had any issues whatsoever with those countries you mentioned. funny, after the creation of israel, the usa is being pulled into wars that are all coincidentally israel's enemies.
@issamharrisjewish i wonder if the oil ties of the usa to those countries is related to al qaeda terrorists saying "the plunder of arab treasure by america" ?
@haroos you are acting like you dont even know those answers to those questions. krauthammer, wolfowitz, ari fliecher, henry kissinger, et. al, all have been enthusiastic supporters of the usa's military adventures in the middle east.
@haroos I never said, "the usa has been attacked by terrorists because of its involvement with israel since 1948," sorry charlie, you are lying. I said that the usa has been involved in conflicts with israel's enemies since 1948.
@haroos there is a difference, because terrorism against the usa only came after creation of the state of israel. indeed, many arab dictators (that were friends of the usa), were also enemies of iran, another one of israel's enemies. (i.e,,,,,my friends' friend is my enemy)
@haroos "they are anti semites and terror supporters, and definitly without a doubt extermists." that's funny that you would say that, because they are all jews (i.e., chomsky, finkelstein, weiss)
@haroos What about the King David Hotel bombing that killed 95 people? Israel was built on terror. Just look up THE IRGUN, THE STERN GANG & THE HAGANAS (many other groups) There are THOUSANDS of examples were israelis used terror to create israel. Early israelis layed down the blueprint for terror in the middle east because of how well it worked against the British, random bombings, shootings, stabbings, beatings & killings are what created israel, well that & Americas ignorant Government.
@haroos Did you not read my comment? GOOGLE the 3 groups mentioned. There are thousands of exampls to choose from. The historical FACTS can't be denied that israeli zionists were the first people to use terror as a method of expressing dissent. For the record I'm not anti israel, I don't care about them one way or the other, I don't want America sending them 5 billion dollars of our tax payers money a year & military weapons. Another FACT: Israel has more spies in our country than any other.
MARCH 3 1948 Heavy damages to Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa a 7 story block of apartments & shops by Zionists who drove an army truck up to the building & escaped before the detonation (400Ib. of explosives) casualties numbered 11 Arabs & 3 Armenians killed & 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident
MARCH 22 1948 A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 & injuring 100. 4 members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street & abandoned the vehicles before the explosion
MARCH 31 1948 The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined the second time in a month by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons & wounding 60
APRIL 9 1948 Combined force of Irgun, the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin & killed more than 200 unarmed civilians including countless women & children Older men & young women were captured & paraded in chains at Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem 20 of the hostages were shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul
Actually U.S. aid to israel is closer to 4.3-4.5 billion. Israel recieves 3 billion dollars cash up front so they can make more interest (everyone else recieving aid funding is by the quarter) They also receive missle develope funding from the U.S. Israel is also the only nation that doesn't have to report to the U.S. what they use the money for (building illegal settlements in the west bank) I oppose ALL aid to nations because we don't have money to give.
@haroos I see you refuse to do any research on your own and you're completely biased towards israels side. Simply google israeli spies in the U.S. or which country has the most spies in the U.S. government and you'll find all the answers you are looking for.
@thewhitemosquito i know that in israel every such case is a headline for weeks, because no one in his right mind in israel wants the USA to turn it's back on us.
make no mistakes, we consider the USA a friend even when the other side doesn't.
to my knowledge there have been very few cases, pollard who actualy broke the law, and several others who didn't.
go ahead, start naming people other than pollard and 2-3 others.
@MMind88 itamar april 2011 : 5 members of a single family were slaughtered by 2 palestinians, as a result the israeli army enetered the nearby plestinian village awartha.
the israeli army entered only after this event.
and yet somehow i have no doubt who you would call "terrorists" here.
facts ?
you won't need them even if you are hammered by them, you are led by one doctrine only :
Israel most Americans support this govt which is militaristic, ethocentric, and have victimization issue. the same people that hate nazis but move Palistians in walled ghettoes." A right to defend themselves," but doesnt respect home ownership of innocent Palistianians but allows Gay Pride parades on the holy land. More liberal than America, but more militeristic. Its a anomaly of a country and we only hope for peace.
We need to end our American support for this country or piece of wasteland that is known as israel. Always wanting the US to fight for them and give them money, i say send all the jews the love israel back to israel.
God Bless Israel. To hell with these Nazi and Muzzie animals. USA is my wife and Israel is my Mother. I love them both. I have plenty of love to go around and proud of it.
@slobbernuckle "God Bless Israel. To hell with these Nazi and Muzzie animals. USA is my wife and Israel is my Mother. I love them both. I have plenty of love to go around and proud of it. "
lets see.....you love them both? Where was the "God Bless USA" then? ...consider that as not being a big deal. enough love and how about a "God Bless the Innocent Neighbors" and "Let God Smite the rest". Why let my "wife" do it for my "mother"?
Israel is not even a real country. It is a shitty little piece of land that the wallet-shakers stole from the Arabs. The yidraeli lobby causes America to unwaveringly support EVERYTHING Israel does. Hence why the Arabs hate us so much.
@haroos Why did you think Israel was surrounded by dictatorships? Would you rather they were democratic and elected the people they actually want in power? The Muslim Brotherhood. Israel and Jewish-American politicians have been building and supporting dictatorships around Israel. So the Islamic parties would not get in power.
@haroos Nope. This is facts. Why do you think Israel supports the status quo instead of supporting the people? Because the people who are not in power want to support their fellow Arabs in Gaza and the west bank. Let the Semites kill each other.
@haroos Ofcourse it helps Israel. Israeli-Saudi royal family ties have never been better. The Saudi Royal family oppress their people and suppress people who wants to overthrow the monarchy and put up a Islamic government who will support the palestinians.
american interests of oil are the real issue here, the USA wants to control the flow of oil from the ME, and they will have harder time to do it with less co'operative regimes.
@ttiiyy You really want this policy to change? Then think critically, about why the US govt backs the "tough" Israeli regime, AND tough Arab dictatorships, which, surprise surprise, ALL crack down on "destabilising" movements by the poor and dispossessed (e.g. Mossadegh). This will only end when ordinary voters pressure them to act morally. Or we powerless, Christians, Jews, Asians, whatever, could just keep attacking each other, as we always have throughout history, leaving real power intact.
Israel and US are pals sirs,,,we are one in the bun...two peas in a pod...a brother from another mother....Israel first!....the messiah runs through Jerusalem sirs...
"We are not blowing up the Bank" DING DING DING JEW EXPOSED. America your foregin policy is being lead and controlled by those who have no loyalty to the US but to Isreal and Jews!
Not criticising the American people. US government support for Israel probably doesn't help the American people. But politicians are pretty good at forgetting about people, and focusing on power. This is about geopolitics, not Jews.
Think about this: the US wasn't very supportive of Israel at its beginning. Israel, France and Britain lost the Suez War against Egypt because of US opposition. Noam Chomsky argues that US aid to Israel only shot up after the Yom Kippur war in 1973...why? Because they realised the Israeli army could be a useful ally in an area of "strategic interest".
Do you think the US would support Israel like this if it wasn't in the Middle East?
@ttiiyy I've heard that argument, but you haven't replied to the historical points I've made. In fact, look at your own last sentence. Why are so sure Israel isn't already that allied state? It has fought a lot against Hizbollah, arguably backed by the US' enemy Iran. It took out Saddam's nuclear reactor in 1981, when that would have been unacceptable behaviour by any of the western states. "We need local cops on the beat". Not my words. That's Melvin Laird, Nixon's Secretary of Defence
@ttiiyy As for the Jewish money argument, it's been used throughout history and it's tired and old. Besides, you really think there are no rich Arab lobbyists? And that the most powerful government on earth happily sits back and lets its foreign policy on the Middle East, with its crucial resources, be decided by someone else?
1.) When did I say that there are no Arab lobbyists?
2.) I like the second point that you make. You just explain to everyone why Muslims want to wipe out Israel and probably will never change their minds. They believe that Israel is taking the land away from them. And Yes, for that reason, the US should distance itself from Israel.
Don't forget that Israel and European countries once tried to attack Egypt. As you said, Muslims just want to protect their own resources :)
Israel can't win no matter what it does. If an arab throws a rock at a passing IDF vehicle their fighting valiantly but if the IDF attacks and kills hundreds of hezbollah their perceived as losing and desperate. The palestinians watch hezbollah launch rockets into isreali villages and deleberately kill civilians and then demands an apology when the IDF hits back? Sounds like the deck is stacked against israel.
Dbusdriver71 1 month ago
fuck you Isreal and all Zionist scumbags.go to Madagascar and steal from eachother and leave everyone else alone.we are sick of you thieving murderous mother fuckers.fucking rippoffs,go to hell.
solkacorot 2 months ago
fuck that zionist jew mort zuckerman, jews gtfo out of the usa
fortyaider 2 months ago
Sure the Israeli's are commiting Genocide but hey....They're Jews and they sure do know how to sue.
WhiteWeasel420 2 months ago
Who is "We"? Exactly.
seans10 3 months ago
The 51st State!
brianpadrickdrake 3 months ago
Who is we Zuckerman, you treasonous piece of crap?
Uncle99B 4 months ago
"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).
GlenRoSSe69 4 months ago
If Israel was the 51st state, then the number of dead Lebanese in this war would have been about 4 million, like in Vietnam, or at least 150,000, like in Iraq, ant not just ~1,000 like it was..
In fact, my guess is that if some terrorist group took control over Mexico and started firing missiles into any state in the U.S.A, it would probably end up with some Carpet-Bombings and a couple of Nucs - like it happened in Japan..
If Israel is the 51st state then the U.S. was a pussy in this case.. ;)
Odedisra 4 months ago
@Odedisra Terrorist group took control over Mexico? dude. I hope that is not an allogy to The palestinians taking control over Gaza. Firstly, they did not take control of it...it was their land from the start, the zionist entity came in , invading their land by setting up an illegal state within a state, then after the 1948 and 1967 wars israel stole a high percentage of land without legally annexing it, and they illegaly build settlemnts on Palestinian land in the west Bank. They are defending.
The100black100 3 months ago
@The100black100
1) Texas, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, and most parts of Wyoming, Colorado and New Mexico - these are all parts of Mexico that were stolen by U.S.A between 1836 and 1848.. And what if those "Terrorists" were Indians in Mexico who wanted to kill all white people? Would you take it up your ass quietly in such case?
2) Wiki the words: "Zion" and "Land of Israel" - they were used by Jews who lived, and had kingdoms on this land, for 1800 years before Arabs occupied it.
Odedisra 3 months ago
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Odedisra 3 months ago
@The100black100 PS
This video, and my comment, are about the war in Lebanon in 2006 - not about Gaza or "Palestinians".
There are no Jewish settlements, or any kind of occupation in Lebanon since 2000 (and, BTW, it should be noted that there are no-more settlements or occupation in Gaza since 2005).
The settlements - no matter how stupid some of which may be - are not a big problem. It could be solved in a two-sate solution. The big problem is that most Arabs want to Eliminate the Jewish state..
Odedisra 3 months ago
@Odedisra Well sorry for mistaking you about gaza and lebanon. But see the reason that most arabs, or Semites( Palestinians /jews/ and arabs) do not want to recognize the state of Israel, is because Israel has not recognized the legitimacy of the Palestinians. So bassicaly we are supposed to make love with people who came into our homeland, took 3/4 of the land, illegaly annexed other land, and pushed us out into refugee camps because they believe their race deserves it more? I think not. Peace
The100black100 3 months ago
@The100black100 Well, the countries who are members in the Arab League have, all-together, ~13,000,000Km2 of land (30% more than the USA!) - most of which was occupied by force during the last 1350 years. Its hard to see how Israel's ~20,000Km2 (smaller than New Jersey!) make 3/4 of "Arab land"..
As for "Palestinians" (Arabs, like all others, who happened to be occupying the area defined as "Palestine" in 1920) - Israel has recognized their legitimacy in 1947, but they started the war..
Peace.
Odedisra 3 months ago
@Odedisra Interesting. But what you fail to realise, and maybe its my own fault, is that by arab land i men he land of Palestine. They took about 3/4s of the land in the beginning...Palestinians are their own race classified under arabs and arabs are classified under semites, just like jews. So its not the Palestinians fault for what ever any other arab country has done in the past 2000 years.But what we should focus on is what israel has done today, yesterday, and 63 years ago. Peace
The100black100 3 months ago
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@The100black100 The "Land of Palestine" you're talking about didn't exist before WW1, and there were no "People" or "Race" (LOL!) called "Palestinians". The entire area of what became later "Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudia, etc" was all one Arabic Region under Muslim Ottoman Empire. Like all artificial Arab States the borders of "Palestine" were artificially established by the British&French between 1917 and 1923 And at first they included Jordan -So I guess you got 3/4 first..
Odedisra 3 months ago
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@The100black100 Anyway, the question isn't about what happened 133 years ago when Petah Tikva was established; And not about the establishment of the first neighborhood of Tel-Aviv in 1887; And not about the "Palestine riots" (in 1920, 1921, 1929, 1936-1939, etc) in which hundreds of Jews were murdered (long before the Arabs had the excuse of "occupation&oppression"); And not about 1948 or even 1967. The question is: "Are the Pal's willing to live in peace alongside the Jewish state TOMORROW?!".
Odedisra 3 months ago
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@The100black100 Another PS:
1) All Jews are "Semites" (especially the "Ashkenazi" ones, if this is what you were hinting); about half of them live in Israel, and ~90% of the rest recognize and support Israel's right to exist as a free national home for Jews.
2) If you have on your channel a map of ENTIRE Mandatory Palestine including all of Israel, and you're calling for ALL of it to be "freed" (meaning it should return to Arab Imperialist occupation) then you're just calling for another Nakba..
Odedisra 3 months ago
@eyalgolan96 Your statement contradicts itself. Although you would like us to think that Israel's enemies are the West's, that is not the case at all. It is the West's support for Israel that makes them a target of Islamic extremism / terrorist. As you said, it would be rather easy for them to come in to the US via the Mexico border and whatever, but they don't! Do they? 9/11 was found to be partly motivated by US support for Israel, per the 9/11 commission report.
steute2011 4 months ago
I see America's affiliation with Israel as Thomas Jefferson once said of slavery--"it is like holding a wolf by the ears, you don't like it, but you don't dare let it go." At this point in world history, any concession to muslims anywhere is a huge step backwards for the human race.
oldstock1607 5 months ago
"Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one."
Darusdei 5 months ago
Yup Israel is a state of America, every year we pay 30 billion dollars to these Zionist fascists. May Israel the nation burn and may its rightful people the Palestinians take it back.
13dachronic 5 months ago
@13dachronic
You And your kind pay nothing but use and abuse Canada's welfare while at the same time despise your kind hosts way of living, our democratic values and attempt to shove that primitive shariaa down our throats.
Please, either accept the Western or go back to the middle eastern hole you came from
errataification 5 months ago
@errataification That is what you think, you sir are so one sided and believe everything the government says, i know you love israel but that is not their land, the jews of israel were European jews kicked out of every country in Europe like Gypsies. I know you are ignorant and dont understand but you really need to know how the world thinks.
13dachronic 5 months ago
Israel???????? you mean the part of land where some thieves have managed to get in fromm the past 70 years. Chickens are coming home to roost.
kapil1ly4u 5 months ago
is "israel" the appendage of the usa? or is it the other way round?
zobielamouche1 5 months ago 10
a country that was born only to be destroyed
majrash1990 5 months ago
haha possibly the longest and most round about way of saying "they can do what they like"
mmc786 5 months ago
This is sscary but true. The US government has been infiltrated with these zionist like this guy who put Israel before America any damn day. These are the people Nixon and Billy Graham talked about on that famous phone called nixon recorded when Graham said we have to get them out of the US governmemnt. Many like Michael Chertof have duel citizenship, who the heck do you think their allegences are to? I'm not anti jewish, I love the jews, I just dont want America to be a tool of Israel's evil!
Allanlegacy43 6 months ago 12
So what is Israel going to do with all the millions of Palestinians? Those people are not going away, and they have the same drive toward nationalism that the Jewish people have. They will never be content with a South African system with supposed "self government" but no real rights. If Israel annexes the West Bank, which seems inevitable, they will eventually face a Palestinian Nelson Mandela, who will make the "one person, one vote" very persuasively to US audiences.
DandAinTac 6 months ago
@DandAinTac They won't annex the West Bank or Gaza. You know why? b/c they don't want to "undermine the Jewish character of Israel." That's why they refuse to recognize the right of return. That's why they refuse to give up any settlements or make any real concessions towards peace, whereas they demand that Palestine give up the right of return (enshrined in int'l law), that they honor illegal settlements, that they give up the right to a military etc. Bibi just wants more land and no peace.
lozoft9 6 months ago
@DandAinTac In my opinion, Palestine should just say "fine, you want West Bank and Gaza? Here take it. But in return, you must annex ALL of the Palestinian refugees in the world effective IMMEDIATELY." That way, palestinians can gain power through the Knesset, and before long...BAM! DEMOCRACY! Then change the name to "Palestine & Israel"
lozoft9 6 months ago
This is the dilemma for Israel--they want all the land, which is why they are building settlements. Palestinians are often heavily criticized for having maps that don't show Israel--just all of the land marked as "Palestine". I have a Jewish aunt and cousin. She showed me a book about Israel that some Israeli relatives gave her. Guess what--there was not boundary marked on the map for the occupied territories--it was all marked Israel. But the Palestinians aren't going away.
DandAinTac 6 months ago
Buchanan's voice is so annoying. Everything is just arrogant yelling. Matches his sick soul. The great defender of Justice who's only real claim to fame is that he was the adviser to a US president who had to resign in shame in order to avoid impeachment. Yeh, Pat, you're the paradigm of morality that should be lecturing others. Btw Pat, if the Bank was used to launch missiles on residents, the US would blow up the bank, just like it did the Branch Davidians-you self righteous bigot.
mrtruthforever 6 months ago
Who is we, Mort, your treasonous piece of crap?
Uncle99B 6 months ago
This is one of the few times when I agree with Pat Buchanan, and believe me, I never would have thought that could happen. Israel could never be the 51st state, as the title of this clip suggests, because then they would have to grant citizenship to ALL the people living in their country, and not discriminate against anyone based on religion, and give everyone equal rights, equal protection under the law, and the right to vote. They don't want to do that.
DandAinTac 7 months ago
@DandAinTac Israel has given citizenship to Muslim Darfur refugees, Vietnamese refugees, gives equal rights to all religous & ethnic groups (Arabs serve in the Parliament, on the Supreme Court of Israel), etc. Yes, Israel has an automatic citizenship for Jews who wish to immigrate, but that's because the country was built on the ashes of WWII when millions died cause they had no home for refuge. Buchanan's line (it's not our war) was held by his ilk up till WWII; until Pearl Harbor of course.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever Yes, I've heard all the good things Israel does, as long as those who are not Jewish are safely kept in the minority, and broad swaths of people living in land the Israelis claim for themselves are denied citizenship and human rights. The Holocaust does not automatically grant Israel the right to act in ways we would condemn were it any other nation.
DandAinTac 7 months ago
@DandAinTac Denies citizenship & Human Rights? I guess that's why it has had & currently has an Arab Supreme Court Justice to decide the legality of its laws, and a myriad of religious & ethnic groups in the Pariliament. Maybe after you finish with your bigotry against Israel, you can start to worry about Human Rights of the thousands being shot in Syria or women, kids, & gays hung in public centers in Iran, or Sharia law in Saudi Arabia, etc.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever Do you deny that Israel does not grant citizenship or rights to the millions of Palestinians in their control? They've occupied the West Bank and Gaza for decades, and have all but officially claimed it as their own, and are actively building settlements on that land. Either grant everyone equal rights and be one nation, one people, or withdraw and let them have their own nation. It is astonishing that a call for equality and equal rights can be called "bigotry".
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mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@DandAinTac Regarding the West Bank, it is under the control of the Pal Authority & is experiencing one of the largest prolonged economic growth rates in the middle east. Israel was there, again, after regional wars & Jordan (which occupied the area-it) pulled out. Israel once again, was left with abandoned territory serving as a terrorist base for PLO (which the Jordanians tried to wipe out in Black Sept). Israel has no interest in controlling Pals.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever "Please refer everyone on this site to all the youtube sites where you've denounced Syria, Libya, Saudia Arabia, Iran, etc." Is this a litmus test? In order to criticize Israel, you have to criticize the others? Nonsense. I already have on this clip. Can you refer everyone on this site to the youtube site where you've denounced North Korea? Hmmm? Well? Where are your posts? Come on. Everyone knows these countries are awful. It's a no brainer, and non-controversial.
DandAinTac 6 months ago
@mrtruthforever "Israel has no interest in controlling Pals" I actually agree with this. Israel wants nothing to do with the Palestinians if they can help it. They just want all the land. Otherwise, why all the settlements? That's a problem though--isn't it? If they take all the land, then they have to take all the people and treat them as equals or else they are NOT a democracy. Otherwise withdraw from the WB and let the Palestinians have their own land. They can't have it both ways.
DandAinTac 6 months ago
@DandAinTac Well said, I agree entiely. They have created the worlds largest open air prison, the people are treated no better than animals. Israel has lost the support of pretty much the whole world. The facts are, they are stealing the Palestinians' land and punishing them for resisting. As for being a Democracy, they may vote in their government but their system allows a small group of right wing fanatics to hold the balance of power. Also they are the world wealthiest welfare beneficiaies
alcraig 6 months ago
@DandAinTac I know that sitting in the comfort of the US, you can't be bothered with little things like facts & history. Israel does not occupy Gaza. In fact, even Jewish towns that were there long before the notion of a separate Pal state & the massacres of jews there in the 20's have been uprooted. After Egypt occupied & pulled out Israel went in to protect Jews there & its borders. It pulled out hoping the gesture would bring peace. It brought Hamastan & thousands of missiles
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@DandAinTac Regarding the West Bank, it is under the control of the Pal Authority & is experiencing one of the largest prolonged economic growth rates in the middle east. Israel was there due to regional wars & Jordan (which occupied the area) pulled out. Israel was left with territory serving as a PLO terrorist base (Jordan, fed-up by the Pal terrorism, killed thousands in Black Sept). Israel has no interest in controlling Pals. It just wants to have the luxury that you have in the US-peace.
michaelfr613 7 months ago
@michaelfr613 "It just wants to have the luxury that you have in the US-peace." Well, I think there's a lot more they could be doing if this is what they really want. Does this desire for peace outweigh their desire to claim the West Bank as part of a greater Israel? the evidence does not seem to indicate this. If so, they would stop building settlements and remove them. It's hard to take any talk of peace seriously as long as they are engaged in settlement activity.
DandAinTac 6 months ago
@DandAinTac The answer to your question is yes. Israel's desire for peace outweighs land claims. However, you need to understand (& one needs to be devoid of prejudices to do so) that such concessions are only to the point where it would mean suicide. Israel is only a few kilometers wide at certain points, so just blanket withdrawal from land w/o security considerations would be suicide. For peace, Israel gave up the Sinai to Egypt (resource rich & significantly bigger than the entire State).
mrtruthforever 6 months ago
@mrtruthforever "yes. Israel's desire for peace outweighs land claims" Really? Then how do you explain the settlements? There are 500,000 Israelis living in hundreds of settlements and "outposts" all over the west bank, with whole large sections off-limits to Palestinians. And how in the world do you equate the settlements with security? They are not army bases--if they were, it would be defensible (both morally and in a military sense). Israel's best security guarantee is to forge a just peace.
DandAinTac 6 months ago
@DandAinTac "to just forge a peace" is nice sloganism spoken by someone living in the security of the US surrounded by 2 oceans, Canada & Mexico. As long as you are incapable of looking at things in their historical context, you are only vilifying & not really interested in peace. At the time those settlements began, long before the PLO, the disputed areas were abandoned by Jordan. Since Israel was vulnerable to invading armies to the east,it began to populate the highlands. From there it grew.
mrtruthforever 6 months ago
@mrtruthforever Where is this version of history located? I need to research it, since everything I have read indicates that Jordan occupied the West Bank from 1948 until they lost it to Israel in the 1967 war, at which time they ceded their claim on the West Bank to the PLO. I also notice you fancy the term "disputed" when describing the occupied territories, as if their is not an existing adjudication on the legal status, .i.e., ICJ decision (2004), UNSC Res.242 & 338.
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 The W bank (i.e., the W.Bank of Jordan, NOT "Pal"-never was any such Arab nation), was occupied by Jordan (vestige occup from it's attack on Israel in '48 ). The Arab occupation changed the historical Hebrew names of names of Judea & Samaria to the "W. Bank" of Jordan. After Israel defended itself against Jordan's '67 attack (when it joined Egypt,Syria,et al), 242 called for a negotiated settlement leaving Israel with secure & recognized boundaries (i.e. boundaries are in dispute)
mrtruthforever 4 months ago
@mrtruthforever I think we all know that there was never a state of Palestine, and that the territory was occupied by Jordan until 1967. Jordan ceded it's claim to the PLO and stripped the Palestinians of their Jordanian citizenship. If this is the argument you are using to say there is no occupation, then I would encourage you to read up on sovereignty and how it's applied, i.e., sovereignty is applied to indigenous people as well as states.
steute2011 4 months ago
@mrtruthforever One quick point on the "attack" in 1967, there was an initial attack, but it came from Israel on Egypt, you do remember the "surprise attack" or as Israel called it at the time, a "preemptive strike". These actions are only considered defensive in nature when authorized by the UNSC. Now to the issue of 242, where in 242 does it say that "Israel" is to be left with secure and recognized borders? That application is for both sides.
steute2011 4 months ago
@mrtruthforever Resolution 242 clearly states in the preamble, that the acquisition of territory by war is inadmissible. Also clearly requires the withdrawal of Israeli troops form territories occupied during the recent conflict. So what territories were occupied during the war of 1967? Yes, you guessed it...The West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Heights.
steute2011 4 months ago
@steute2011 After the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, the Allied forces, divided the terriorty into states.Britain's Lord Balfour's proposal for a Jewish homeland included the W.Best & what is today known as Jordan. But when the British Mandate ended, UN resolution 181 ('47 partition plan) proposed 2 states west of Jord.The Arab states REFUSED it & went to war.The Arabs insisted that the cease fire line have NO significance. The '67 border was never a "border". The Wbank is disputed territory.
mrtruthforever 4 months ago
@mrtruthforever If you deem international law and the decisions of the adjudicative bodies to be null and void, then I guess they are 'disputed", even if only by Israel! As a signatory to the UN charter Israel is fully expected to abide by UN resolutions and international law.
steute2011 4 months ago
@DandAinTac Let me just end these conversations with you on this note. As long as you&those like you, insist on a black/white interpretation (Israel is the bad guy, Pals are the good guys), there will never be peace. Peace requires respecting the other side's concerns. Israel has made peace with former enemies who acknowledged her right to live within secure borders. The day Hamas revises its charter, accepts "Infidels", grants non-Muslims equal rights to live amongst them, there will be peace.
mrtruthforever 6 months ago
@mrtruthforever Then I'll end on this note. My interpretation is not black/white. There are no good-guys in this insane conflict. Everyone has blood on their hands, and there's plenty of blame to go around. But if it is to ever be peace, Israel will have to bear a far greater burden in bringing about that end. They are the ones who are holding all the cards. They have the power, and will need to do the heavy lifting. The Palestinians have nothing. (continued)
DandAinTac 6 months ago
@mrtruthforever Regarding the bad behavior of Syria, Saudi Arabia etc.--I am in now way defending them! They are appalling nations. But is this really what Israel wants to be compared to? "Well, yeah, we treat the Palestinians like shit, but at least we're not as bad as THEM!" Isn't that an awfully low bar to step over to compare to Iran? As a democracy (well, a partial democracy), I think we should be able to expect better of Israel. I think we can all agree Iran's government is horrible.
DandAinTac 7 months ago
@DandAinTac Please refer everyone on this site to all the youtube sites where you've denounced Syria, Libya, Saudia Arabia, Iran, etc. You are extremely biased. Your channel page makes no reference to the atrocities they commit. You judge Israel by actions it took against Hamas, which has a charter disavowing compromise with non-Muslim "Infidels", intentionally targets civilians, rather than the status of Arabs in Israel which have & do serve on the Israel Supreme Court & Govt.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever "You are extremely biased." Don't you think you might be just a bit biased toward Israel? My channel is bare bones--and there's much I don't have on my channel--like how bad Nazi Germany was on my channel. Does this make me pro-Nazi and anti-British? Come on--you just can't take any criticism of Israel. Is this your argument--to criticize me instead? As far as Hamas--I won't defend them. They're a terrorist organization--but then again so are the Kahanists.
DandAinTac 6 months ago
@mrtruthforever stop lying.... lsrael is trying to kick out the darfurs and other african-refugees....so stop lying.
kemetkush 7 months ago
@kemetkush You're full of shit. Many of the have been given refugee citizenship status. Israel does, as any other country would, enforce immigration laws against those who commit crimes while in the country illegally. But I see that that offends you more than the neighboring Arab & Muslim countries who shot refugess at their borders.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever you are full of shit???? african refugee in lsrael are kills.....every day.
kemetkush 7 months ago
@kemetkush You're not only a sick fuck, you're also stupid (with atrocious English). Btw, that stupid video you sent was a general humanitarian march that included a myriad of groups & people of all ethnic groups: Green Peace, Peace Groups, etc. Let's see a march like that occur in downtown Damascus or Tehran or Libya or Saudi Arabia or Gaza.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@kemetkush Watch youtube/ZGa2_8tgsKw & you'll see mass numbers of Sudense refugees demonstrating in Israel to celebrate the decision of the International Criminal Court (ICC) to indict President Omar Al Bashir from Sudan for crimes against humanity & war crimes. They are waving Israeli flags and telling the world that Libya & neighboring African countries wouldn't accept them so they came for freedom to Israel. Many of them are Muslims.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
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mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever so full of shit...anti-black in lsrael is real...racists in lsrael is real.
kemetkush 7 months ago
@kemetkush What's full of shit? The testimonies & gathering of all the Sudanese in Israel thanking the country for taking them in while their neighboring countries wouldn't? Why don't you get off your ass & come to Israel and talk to them. No, better yet, stay where you are & stew in your psychotic hatred. Afterall, you need some fictional "villain" to hate, otherwise you'd have no purpose to your life. You prefer to believe one militant leftist than myriads of refugees.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever racists is real in lsrael....it not our war...
kemetkush 7 months ago
@kemetkush Also look at youtu.be/WkmakYY6tE8. They came to Israel as illegal immigrants-refugees and within a short time they are voting for the first time in their lives in democratic elections. Look, you're a person living on the otherside of the world. You can choose to believe the antisemtic propoganda & hate or listen to the refugees themselves. If your soul feeds off hate & lies, you're the one who will ultimately be consumed by it.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
All jews should go to Israel.
972Collumba 7 months ago
you tell em.. whitey... its unfortunate... americans don't realize that they have been taken over by people like this zionist freak... some call them dual loyal,, i call them 100 percent israel loyal.. if u disagree , follow the pattern of military conflicts and the stance of america... sorry white people but its true... America is hijacked... No it hasn't been hijacked by them fundamentalist muzzzzlims.. but by ur usury friend the zionist jew..
UNJUSTIFICATION1 7 months ago
wow... "Mort Zuckerman" is pro-Israel.... that's surprising...
Mrmidtown1 7 months ago
"we the united states"...what a blatant lie... by definition they are traitors to both countries they claim to be "loyal" to. The interests of israel come before all things including the interests of the us.....these robot assholes are not in it for us, they do not represent anyone but the israeli monster. We need to realize that they always fight on BOTH sides of a conflict. We are being setup...again! As always the media will cover their lies.
MrWestdene1972 7 months ago
take this state into ur land jerk zionist thug
haifab1 7 months ago
RON PAUL 2012!!!
That dude looks like a tickle jew!
reodk 7 months ago
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RON PAUL 2012!!!
reodk 7 months ago
RON PUAL 2012!!!
reodk 7 months ago
Jews ALWAYS talk like America and Israel are the same thing. Oh well, the whole world hates em now. Good luck with that.
Marscrater 8 months ago
@Marscrater
America and Israel have become the same thing. Whomever their enemies are become ours. They declared a war on terror decades ago and now we have one. Total Zionism.
Ponerology 8 months ago
"you don't blow up the bank" classic :)
MMind88 8 months ago
fuckisreael
reodk 8 months ago 2
btw, why allways the guy with the bomb shouts "allah wakbar" before he blows himself up ?
bablibuba 8 months ago
lol. long live israel and usa, of course, the supporters only..
if you don't wan't nothing with israel, it's cool, we won't miss ya. so let's break up as friends. o.k kidos ? ^_^
bablibuba 8 months ago
lol........... "you don't blow up the bank"
epajrgolf 9 months ago
to all those who hate israel and are not muslims, do you want to know why you are wrong ?
why you should be friendly to israel ?
why you should support israel and not arabs ?
make a search on you tube "cnn shock interview".
if you can't be bothered to watch the whole interview, then go to 2:30 of that video.
if you still are against israel, you must admit that you are for that 2:30.
good luck.
haroos 9 months ago
@haroos I remember the USS Liberty.....
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish and ?
a 1 time incident.
if you think i'll apologize for it, you're dead wrong.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos lavon affair as well, jews have a history of putting up false flags
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish unlike the real flags of : beirut 83, dar al sallam and nairobi 1998, wtc 1993, 9/11, 3000 american soldiers dead .
sure, compare all that and more with one and a half incidents (the half is because nothing realy happened).
btw, are you a supporter of al qaeda ?
it sounds to me that you are.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos before 1948, the usa never had any issues whatsoever with those countries you mentioned. funny, after the creation of israel, the usa is being pulled into wars that are all coincidentally israel's enemies.
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish i wonder if the oil ties of the usa to those countries is related to al qaeda terrorists saying "the plunder of arab treasure by america" ?
when exactly was the USA pulled ?
in the 50's when it had arms embargo on israel ?
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos you are acting like you dont even know those answers to those questions. krauthammer, wolfowitz, ari fliecher, henry kissinger, et. al, all have been enthusiastic supporters of the usa's military adventures in the middle east.
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish you said that the usa has been attacked by terrorists because of it's involvement with israel since 1948.
but the names you mention are all from the last 10 years (except for 1 kissinger).
so you either don't know how to formulate an opinion or you don't know what you're talking about.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos I never said, "the usa has been attacked by terrorists because of its involvement with israel since 1948," sorry charlie, you are lying. I said that the usa has been involved in conflicts with israel's enemies since 1948.
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish and what is the difference ?
maybe you can explain, because i think you lost your own train of thought on this.
and even though you try to evade it :
the people who are currently killing americans by the droves are all also the enemies of israel right now.
and why ?
why did the usa build friendly relations with arab tyrants ?
because of israel ???
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos there is a difference, because terrorism against the usa only came after creation of the state of israel. indeed, many arab dictators (that were friends of the usa), were also enemies of iran, another one of israel's enemies. (i.e,,,,,my friends' friend is my enemy)
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish you confuse history with fairy tales.
iran fell the the crazies in 1979, and one of the first things they did was take american hostages.
regardless of arab tyrants and israel and whatever.
the ayatollas in iran are against western values, mainly the USA.
israel , despite your wishfull thinking, is not the cause of hate to the usa.
it is the american control of arab oil, and their relations with the tyrants.
the usa has proven time and again, that it's interests superseeds all
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos just because you equate a historical fact with fairy tales does not mean you are right.
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish which historical fact ?
the liberty ? a 1 time incident ?
what about the THOUSANDS of americans who have died by people you support ?
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos what people do i support? please name the groups of people that i support....
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish anyone who is against israel.
that's who you support.
that group (sadly the majority) contains racists, anti semites, radicals, exteremists, terrorists.
you've made your choice.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos so you are saying that noam chomsky, norman finkelstein, dovid weiss are "racists, anti semtites, extremists, and terrorists?"
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@issamharrisjewish no, they are anti semites and terror supporters, and definitly without a doubt extermists.
not all violence is a knife or a gun.
hitler didn't kill 1 person with his own hands during ww2, but do you consider him a peacefull man ?
stalin also killed 0 on his own, but his orders killed 25 millions.
so ?
are they peacefull ?
haroos 8 months ago
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@haroos "they are anti semites and terror supporters, and definitly without a doubt extermists." that's funny that you would say that, because they are all jews (i.e., chomsky, finkelstein, weiss)
issamharrisjewish 8 months ago
@haroos What about the King David Hotel bombing that killed 95 people? Israel was built on terror. Just look up THE IRGUN, THE STERN GANG & THE HAGANAS (many other groups) There are THOUSANDS of examples were israelis used terror to create israel. Early israelis layed down the blueprint for terror in the middle east because of how well it worked against the British, random bombings, shootings, stabbings, beatings & killings are what created israel, well that & Americas ignorant Government.
thewhitemosquito 8 months ago
@thewhitemosquito it's no surprise that you anti israeli people always go back to this ONE incident.
regardless of the circumstances which i will not go into, for the sake of the arguement i am willing to call it a terror attac.
the thing is that it was a singular event.
as opposed to the arab method of killing as a means of expressing dissent.
don't try to tally the jews with the traditional arabs death rites.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos Did you not read my comment? GOOGLE the 3 groups mentioned. There are thousands of exampls to choose from. The historical FACTS can't be denied that israeli zionists were the first people to use terror as a method of expressing dissent. For the record I'm not anti israel, I don't care about them one way or the other, I don't want America sending them 5 billion dollars of our tax payers money a year & military weapons. Another FACT: Israel has more spies in our country than any other.
thewhitemosquito 8 months ago
@thewhitemosquito wtf are you on about ?
these 3 groups fought for independence, as soon as it was achieved they declared ceasefire with england, end of story.
they all had different takes, but they did not kill thousands, not even hundreds.
do your research again, show me 3 examples of mass killings by these 3 groups together.
as for american aid, it's less than 3 billion a year, egypt gets 2 billion, do you complain about egypt as well ?
spying on america, you know of more than one incident ?
haroos 8 months ago
It's the SAME thing the Palestinians are doing, fighting for their independence. Using the SAME tactics as the israelis.
thewhitemosquito 8 months ago
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MARCH 3 1948 Heavy damages to Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa a 7 story block of apartments & shops by Zionists who drove an army truck up to the building & escaped before the detonation (400Ib. of explosives) casualties numbered 11 Arabs & 3 Armenians killed & 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident
thewhitemosquito 8 months ago
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MARCH 22 1948 A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 & injuring 100. 4 members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street & abandoned the vehicles before the explosion
MARCH 31 1948 The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined the second time in a month by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons & wounding 60
thewhitemosquito 8 months ago
APRIL 9 1948 Combined force of Irgun, the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin & killed more than 200 unarmed civilians including countless women & children Older men & young women were captured & paraded in chains at Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem 20 of the hostages were shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul
thewhitemosquito 8 months ago
Actually U.S. aid to israel is closer to 4.3-4.5 billion. Israel recieves 3 billion dollars cash up front so they can make more interest (everyone else recieving aid funding is by the quarter) They also receive missle develope funding from the U.S. Israel is also the only nation that doesn't have to report to the U.S. what they use the money for (building illegal settlements in the west bank) I oppose ALL aid to nations because we don't have money to give.
thewhitemosquito 8 months ago
@haroos I see you refuse to do any research on your own and you're completely biased towards israels side. Simply google israeli spies in the U.S. or which country has the most spies in the U.S. government and you'll find all the answers you are looking for.
thewhitemosquito 8 months ago
@thewhitemosquito i know that in israel every such case is a headline for weeks, because no one in his right mind in israel wants the USA to turn it's back on us.
make no mistakes, we consider the USA a friend even when the other side doesn't.
to my knowledge there have been very few cases, pollard who actualy broke the law, and several others who didn't.
go ahead, start naming people other than pollard and 2-3 others.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos a singular event? these terror attacks are committed by the israeli army on daily basis
get your facts straight. bitch!
MMind88 8 months ago
@MMind88 itamar april 2011 : 5 members of a single family were slaughtered by 2 palestinians, as a result the israeli army enetered the nearby plestinian village awartha.
the israeli army entered only after this event.
and yet somehow i have no doubt who you would call "terrorists" here.
facts ?
you won't need them even if you are hammered by them, you are led by one doctrine only :
"blame the jew".
haroos 8 months ago
Outlaw lobbying.
AwesomeBeatles 9 months ago
Israel most Americans support this govt which is militaristic, ethocentric, and have victimization issue. the same people that hate nazis but move Palistians in walled ghettoes." A right to defend themselves," but doesnt respect home ownership of innocent Palistianians but allows Gay Pride parades on the holy land. More liberal than America, but more militeristic. Its a anomaly of a country and we only hope for peace.
J5MARLON 9 months ago
We need to end our American support for this country or piece of wasteland that is known as israel. Always wanting the US to fight for them and give them money, i say send all the jews the love israel back to israel.
reodk 9 months ago
America should send all able bodied Jews to fight against the Muslims!!! Keep the Gentiles out of it.
Qweeqeh13 9 months ago
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Israel is a shithole, that's why so many jews would rather live in the united states..
SmokeyCough 10 months ago
I hate anti semites, crawing on the ground killing babies in their sleep. You are sick disgusting people
slobbernuckle 10 months ago
@slobbernuckle i love anti semites.Stop sending our sons and daugthers to die in name of your filthy Israel
resnoex1 10 months ago
God Bless Israel. To hell with these Nazi and Muzzie animals. USA is my wife and Israel is my Mother. I love them both. I have plenty of love to go around and proud of it.
slobbernuckle 10 months ago
@slobbernuckle you dont care about how many gentiles american dies,as long your beloved Israel is safe.
Nazi jew!!!
resnoex1 10 months ago
@slobbernuckle Traitor.
TheJoelef 9 months ago
@slobbernuckle "God Bless Israel. To hell with these Nazi and Muzzie animals. USA is my wife and Israel is my Mother. I love them both. I have plenty of love to go around and proud of it. "
lets see.....you love them both? Where was the "God Bless USA" then? ...consider that as not being a big deal. enough love and how about a "God Bless the Innocent Neighbors" and "Let God Smite the rest". Why let my "wife" do it for my "mother"?
lemme ask you: would you fornicate with both?
zitools 9 months ago
Israel was born out of Jewish Terrorism
PhreakPhantom 11 months ago
Israel is not even a real country. It is a shitty little piece of land that the wallet-shakers stole from the Arabs. The yidraeli lobby causes America to unwaveringly support EVERYTHING Israel does. Hence why the Arabs hate us so much.
AresCassell 11 months ago
wtf f'ing jew!
crazyken600 11 months ago
lol
mrelisamuel 1 year ago
Mort Zuckerman's loyalty and every Jewish lobbyist and US Congresman is to Israel first.
Phantomplayz 1 year ago 8
@Phantomplayz standing with israel is right and true.
how can you say otherwise ?
do you support the saudi methods ?
if you choose sides will you choose saudi arabia over israel ?
if so, then YOU are not loyal to the USA.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos Nice try....USA is NOT Israel. Dont mix the two. And where did u get Saudi from??? Keep trying.
Phantomplayz 8 months ago
@Phantomplayz you spoke about the loyalty of jewish congressmen to israel "first".
and i said that an american citizen should naturally feel more empathy to israel than to saudi arabia .
this is an example of the general rule, not a one time analogy.
the usa sold weapons to saudi arabia in the amount of 60 billion last year.
saudi arabia which has spawned 15 of the 19 terrorists of 9/11.
compare that to israel which william haig rightle called "the usa's biggest airship carrier in the world".
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos Why did you think Israel was surrounded by dictatorships? Would you rather they were democratic and elected the people they actually want in power? The Muslim Brotherhood. Israel and Jewish-American politicians have been building and supporting dictatorships around Israel. So the Islamic parties would not get in power.
Lavard14 7 months ago
@Lavard14 so that is israel's fault too ?
are you shitting me ?
mubarak inherited his presidency from saddat who got it from nasser who took over egypt in 1953.
how the hell is israel responsible for that ??
only complete anti semites would make such a ridiculous arguement.
haroos 7 months ago
@haroos Nope. This is facts. Why do you think Israel supports the status quo instead of supporting the people? Because the people who are not in power want to support their fellow Arabs in Gaza and the west bank. Let the Semites kill each other.
Lavard14 7 months ago
@Lavard14 israel NEVER tried or was able to influence a government around the world.
the USA definitly did, including assasinationas, russia (soviets) definitly did, iran.
israel ?
in this regard (as in others) is just pure.
haroos 7 months ago
@Lavard14 supporting the people ?
where are you from that you would lay this blame on israel ?
the arab dictators enjoyed american support because it fit with american interests, and of course european.
israel is too tiny and insignificant to make a dent in those interests.
why did america sell 60 billion worth of army materials to saudi arabia ?
it doesn;t help israel !
no, blaming israel just proves that you are not able to deal with the reality of your own shitty government.
wherever you are.
haroos 7 months ago
@haroos Ofcourse it helps Israel. Israeli-Saudi royal family ties have never been better. The Saudi Royal family oppress their people and suppress people who wants to overthrow the monarchy and put up a Islamic government who will support the palestinians.
Lavard14 7 months ago
@Lavard14 what ties ??
what the hell are you talking about ?
all you say is based on what exactly ?
american interests of oil are the real issue here, the USA wants to control the flow of oil from the ME, and they will have harder time to do it with less co'operative regimes.
this situation has nothing to do with israel !
it's all american and european and chinese crap/
like i said :
israel is pure.
deal with it.
haroos 7 months ago
@ttiiyy You really want this policy to change? Then think critically, about why the US govt backs the "tough" Israeli regime, AND tough Arab dictatorships, which, surprise surprise, ALL crack down on "destabilising" movements by the poor and dispossessed (e.g. Mossadegh). This will only end when ordinary voters pressure them to act morally. Or we powerless, Christians, Jews, Asians, whatever, could just keep attacking each other, as we always have throughout history, leaving real power intact.
ArmourApple 1 year ago
Israel and US are pals sirs,,,we are one in the bun...two peas in a pod...a brother from another mother....Israel first!....the messiah runs through Jerusalem sirs...
johnsmdm 1 year ago
@johnsmdm LMAO Go fuck yourself, you fucking retard. You think anti-Islam Americans love Israel? How many Jews call themselves Christians?
ttiiyy 1 year ago
I wish Isreal loses insha'Allah. The muslims will re-unite.
egyptionhoney1 1 year ago
I think America is Israel's second state.......
ALLAHSWARRIOR312 1 year ago
@ALLAHSWARRIOR312 So true. Both George W. Bush and that stupid Obama have given Israel billions of dollars.
ttiiyy 1 year ago
Zuckerassho That guy is a slimy liar. "WE" my azz. Go back to Russia u Israeli skum.
pccchurch 1 year ago
the "hiding among civilians' is a myth.
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
"We are not blowing up the Bank" DING DING DING JEW EXPOSED. America your foregin policy is being lead and controlled by those who have no loyalty to the US but to Isreal and Jews!
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Quiltinguk 1 year ago
I wanted to join the IDF, but I had to be an ASSHOLE so they refused me :(
MCnejjj23 1 year ago 2
@MCnejjj23 You must not have passed the basic intelligence requirement.
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FantomasXZ7 1 year ago
Not criticising the American people. US government support for Israel probably doesn't help the American people. But politicians are pretty good at forgetting about people, and focusing on power. This is about geopolitics, not Jews.
ArmourApple 1 year ago
Are you sure Israel isn't fighting for the US?
Think about this: the US wasn't very supportive of Israel at its beginning. Israel, France and Britain lost the Suez War against Egypt because of US opposition. Noam Chomsky argues that US aid to Israel only shot up after the Yom Kippur war in 1973...why? Because they realised the Israeli army could be a useful ally in an area of "strategic interest".
Do you think the US would support Israel like this if it wasn't in the Middle East?
ArmourApple 1 year ago
@ArmourApple Are you playing dumb? The US politicians are simply bribed by Jewish lobbyists in the US.
If the US government is really smart, it will just work with UK to wipe out Jews in Israel and establish another Anglo puppet state such as Australia.
ttiiyy 1 year ago
@ttiiyy I've heard that argument, but you haven't replied to the historical points I've made. In fact, look at your own last sentence. Why are so sure Israel isn't already that allied state? It has fought a lot against Hizbollah, arguably backed by the US' enemy Iran. It took out Saddam's nuclear reactor in 1981, when that would have been unacceptable behaviour by any of the western states. "We need local cops on the beat". Not my words. That's Melvin Laird, Nixon's Secretary of Defence
ArmourApple 1 year ago
@ttiiyy As for the Jewish money argument, it's been used throughout history and it's tired and old. Besides, you really think there are no rich Arab lobbyists? And that the most powerful government on earth happily sits back and lets its foreign policy on the Middle East, with its crucial resources, be decided by someone else?
ArmourApple 1 year ago 2
@ArmourApple
1.) When did I say that there are no Arab lobbyists?
2.) I like the second point that you make. You just explain to everyone why Muslims want to wipe out Israel and probably will never change their minds. They believe that Israel is taking the land away from them. And Yes, for that reason, the US should distance itself from Israel.
Don't forget that Israel and European countries once tried to attack Egypt. As you said, Muslims just want to protect their own resources :)
ttiiyy 1 year ago
This shows how deep the Israel zionist have their hands in the american pocket.
Israel fighting for USA L.O.L
Carpediem8110101 1 year ago 2
Hmmm...I'm the 22,222nd person to see this. Kooky.
Even stranger: I agree with Pat Buchanon.
TheDreamMechanic 1 year ago <