Big "success" for animal welfare in Austria

[bigb47]

Wow...

[monikaedv]

"And if you did not get it - banning batteries in one country but still importing the respective products just means that the production will MOVE ABROAD."

Maybe child molesting should be allowed in western countries, because many child molestors just travel to other countries and molest child prostitutes instead...? I don't know... kind of makes sense...?

[badong28]

still seems like a step in the right direction to me.

[lordthawkeye]

@badong28 Only if your goal is the senseless deaths of thousands of chickens...were you not paying attention?

[badong28]

@lordthawkeye but that happens everyday anyway

[beaelliott]

It is not that these chickens are now going to be killed...It's that they are now going to be killed "sooner".Battery hens stop being "productive" at 18 mos- then it's off to the soup factory. Meanwhile, it's less profitable to be in the egg business thus less "farms".Of course others exist outside this jurisdiction, but they did before anyway.Also, importing eggs from such a distance will be seen as inefficient (expensive) - thus reducing consumption, promoting veganism and lestening suffering.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

This "far distance" is one hour per car from Austria's capital, and also "happy chickens" end up in the soup. They still die, you know.

Really: The ONLY effect this has is that it makes egg production for domestic farmers more expensive, and that several 1000 chickens got gassed. There are no other consequences.

[SithLordRising]

You're such an idiot. Boo hoo, some Austrian chicken farmers will go out of business. Your such a propagandist, as if you give a shit about the welfare of the chickens that will be killed. You cry crocodile tears, fascist propagandist. It's amazing that you are up in arms about animal rights while ignoring the rise of fascism in your country. Alas, Nero fiddled as Rome was burning. Your ignorance and blatant hypocrisy never cease to amaze me.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

You have no answer to my previous post about the shocking abuse of animals in factory farms.

Animals in factory farms have a very short life. Pets live longer .

ABSOLUTELY i can see when an animal is suffering, in pain, enjoying itself.

I can't think of anything easier . I can see my sisters chickens in her garden , which she rescued from one of the operations you support. They had , wounds, damaged feet, feather loss and were traumatised. Now after nearly a year they are happy .

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Maybe I lost track because actually, you wrote a ton of comments here (get a life, man!), and you don't give a shit about what I tell you, so why bother? You know, it's really no fun to discuss with somebody who doesn't listen to you but keeps babbling about compassion[TM] and who defends a practise that kills tens of thousands of chickens at the same time.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

No i wrote one comment which u answered, Of course i don't give a shit what you say. I have seen on this and other videos your efforts to keep all animal cruelty going. I'm just here to refute your lies and reveal to the world your cruel nature. The last thing i do is defend killing any animals without a very good reason. Again i note that when i answered your silly question of could i recognise and tell what animals were feeling, you ignored it completely. LOL

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

So, killing some thousand hens for battery eggs NOT being banned is a good reason???

Oh man...

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

This video was made because the Austrian factory farmers of chickens are livid they are not to be allowed to continue this cruelty. Profiting from cruelty is a vile business. The chickens you talk about would be killed anyway once they stop producing eggs. However if you are so concerned about them, contact your countries animal welfare orgs and they will help you to place them in good homes.

look through the comments, u have neatly dodged answering the majority of my answers.lol

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Tell me why you did not answer my questions I asked you TWO DAYS AGO:

a) How can suffering be measured?

b) How can you tell when they suffer more?

And if you did not get it - banning batteries in one country but still importing the respective products just means that the production will MOVE ABROAD. Got it now???

Btw: EACH and EVERY animal dies, anyway. So what now?

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

Not my fault if you can't see the answers!! They are there.

The european union is phasing out battery hens completely and already supermarkets in England are banning the sale of ANY caged chicken eggs. Perhaps Austria should pull their socks up and do the same. Animal cruelty from factory farms WILL be wholly stamped out eventually. Stop fighting to keep cruelty, you won't win.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Aha. Not my fault I can't see invisibles, they are there...

Okay, altough this is getting boring, and afaik your claim about the European Union is incorrect, and life itself (sic) is cruel to human standards, etc, again:

a) How can suffering be measured?

b) How can you tell when they [the chickens] suffer more?

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

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Better check as i know the battery law is coming in to force at some point, can't remember the year.

There is no species more cruel than humans, luckily with some exceptions of course, they are mostly vegan lol.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

Here it is and only 2 below, funny you couldn't see it.

ABSOLUTELY i can see when an animal is suffering, in pain, enjoying itself.

I can't think of anything easier . I can see my sisters chickens in her garden , which she rescued from one of the operations you support. They had , wounds, damaged feet, feather loss and were traumatised. Now after nearly a year they are happy .

[SithLordRising]

@thatnazifromaustria Again, the utterances of a moron. You ask the questions, (a) how can suffering be measured. (b) how can you tell when chickens suffer more? Since you believe that suffering is impossible to measure, then why make it illegal for individuals to slowly torture and kill dogs and cats? Why use anesthesia while performing vivisection? Why not allow animals to fight and kill one another for entertainment? The mind of a fascist is truly amazing to behold.

[SithLordRising]

@thatnazifromaustria You are such an imbecile with the most convoluted logic that I've ever encountered on youtube. According to your argument, there's no point in banning slave labor (unjust labor exploitation) because it will mean that we'll just purchase cheaper imported products made from slave labor. Like all of your arguments you use circular reasoning. Your morality is stuck in it's infantile stage, you are a 30 year old halfwit who focuses on minutia.

[wzxd8rm]

Previously chickens lived to old age and were allowed to die peacefully of natural causes.

Now this law condemns them to certain death.

You are very compassionate person, keep educating ignorant people.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

At least Austria has made a small start but it's very small as the chickens will just be stuffed in warehouses. Other countries are or already doing the same. In England in many major supermarkets they have banned the sale of battery eggs. The SOLUTION lies with the consumer, they buy these eggs ,generating a market for them. Best solution GO VEGAN and don't support the cruelty in the meat and dairy industries.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Nope, this law servers nobody. In Austria, importing battery eggs is still allowed, so this law only has disadvantages.

Btw, if sale of battery eggs are banned in major supermarkets, this does not mean that you won't be able to buy tons of products actually MADE with battery eggs... This is called "marketing", you know.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

I refer you again to my previous answer.

This la of course doesn't help chickens overmuch BUT it causes awareness and as i said the problem lies with the consumer. You support all animal cruelty, we know that and want it all kept firmly in place.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

No, it does not cause awareness. I guess hardly anyone in Austria knows about that law.

Btw, you use the word "we". Are you a multiple personality, or are you simply so bold to think that there is many more than you supporting your standpoint? Veganism is a very tiny minority point of view.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

Oh dear ,are all people in Austria as oblivious as you to animal cruelty and non caring as you.? How unfortunate for Austrian animals.

Are you a chicken farmer , you are obviously profiting in some way through animal cruelty or you wouldn't be working so hard to keep it all in place.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Why do you think I "work hard to keep it all in place"???

In fact, being aware that cruelty against animals is in large portions simply completely unimportant, I just mock this "success" of animal welfare. This is it.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

The mind boggles at such callousness.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Only a mind of someone who thinks that "Bambi" faithfully reflects nature. Grow up.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

I wasn't talking about nature . I was talking about imprisoning animals in factory farms and abusing them , denying them every natural need and instinct.

Your indifference to the pain and needs of living beings exposes your character. If you are like this over animals it follows suit you have no feelings for human life either. Actually you disgust me.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Why not? Compared to what happenes in nature, even laying batteries are more comfortable. In the wild, animals live in CONSTANT FEAR of starvation and predators, compared to this, factory farms are not that bad.

Ignoring the bigger part and concentration on a small part is actually called "ignorance", just for your information.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

Perhaps you have never seen battery cages and the chickens inside. 6 or seven hens are crowded into one tiny cage, they haven't even room enough to OPEN their wings their WHOLE lives, they must stand on wire, which is crippling for their feet, they are denied sunlight, dust baths, a perch, the need to build nests, they have their beaks end cut off through sensitive nerves, they get respitory problems due to the amonia. They never experience being a family, their main need and instinct.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

Compared to what happens in nature being in a cage and under abusive conditions is better than nature??? LOL Your a nutcase, that is clear. An animal does not live in fear in nature, they are alert and enjoy being the animals they are under natural conditions. Your EVILNESS in thinking mistreating animals and confining them in factory farms is shocking.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Of course animals suffer in wild life! Or why do you think practically every animal species gets much older in captivity? It's the stress of wild life that cuts their lives short. And if you tell me that they don't suffer more in the wild, I ask you:

How can suffering be measured?

How can you tell when they suffer more?

And how can you tell when animals enjoy themselves and when not? Do you speak chicken-language? Did you ask them?