You have to remember that it took Kobe several years to develop a consistent personal defense. I mean there used to be alot of guys that schooled him, when they had the ball.
No disrespect to the goat, but if you watch the replay at 15 secs exactly, he moves both feet to the right and then changes to the left, thats traveling.
Your boss at work is your boss because of his stats,awards and achievements that he holds over everyone in the office..because if not then ANYONE would be boss..Stats,Achievements and Awards is what sets us apart from morons like u
As a die hard MJ fan, Kobe is amazing and easily one of the greatest and this vid doesnt do him justice, as far as comparing the two, My defense is that MJ went to the playoffs every year of his career(excluding Wizard years), won every Final he was in and the MVP(6), and by far was the better defensive player, and to finish it off MJ's list of achievements has its own wikipedia page...hahaha...all hail His Airness...
@godsboss24 if u watch sports center or espn they're sayin lebron will be better than jordan came out of his mouth and larry birds so therefore i can say wat i want
@deeboy131 what does any of that have to do with you bringing up lebron in this video? hes not in it,so how could he travel? you arent funny. just stop
@deeboy131 because people like you are dumb. you think saying lebron traveled in every video is funny? its not. hes not even in this video idiot. come up with a new joke already
@deeboy131 haha what?! i just went on your page and u said the same thing about lebron on like 5 different videos. none of which he was even in. dont lie
Scottie Pippen 0 final MVPS,0 regular Season MVPS,Rodman 0 final MVPS 0 regular MVPS.....
Shaq 3 MVPS and 1 Regular MVP..Why do everyone keep saying Jordan was lucky..NOT ONCE..not ONCE>.did Jordan get to sit back and let scottie and Rodman win the finals..NEVER...now KOBE all he had to do was pass shaq the rock....shaq 3 MVPS...kobe 2 MVPS..lmao..looks like kobe was riding more then he was Leading
@soniscrazy What does that even mean? So kobe isn't as good as Shaq then? Tim duncan is better then kobe since he has 3 MVPS? Just get ready to blow me & kobe when he gets that 6th & 7th ring.
@loplips your telling me you since stats and achievements dont matter your high school diploma wont matter when u look for a job?..lmfao dumb fuk..evertything COUNTS...called a BODY OF WORK..and when kobe retires..it wont be as long as jordans..or wide as.....and YES..id RATHER SOMEONE THAT TAKES OVER FINALS then someone that DOESNT..GIVE ME AN MVP then someone THAT ISNT MVP..lol you are so dumb..its like saying u'd rather DAN MARINO instead of JOE MONTAN.Give me someone that will take over.MVP
@soniscrazy Wow a lot of people would take Dan Marino over joe montana. Your the dumbass putting STATS and a Highschool Diploma in the same sentence. Then you say its about a body of work? Is it about your work or your diploma? Either way i didn't get my diploma & your right it is about your body of work which is why I'm getting paid more than anyone i went to school with. Again all you can ay is MVP this and mvp that. Well Kobe got more All-star MVPS then MJ so whats that mean? So your wrong.
KOBE WILL NEVER HAVE = ROY,DPOY,NCAA title,5 regular season MVPS,or 6 FInal MVPS, or 10 Scoreing titles..NEVER will he get those...so how the fuck can he be compared to jordan?..he averg's 25.0ppg jordan 30ppg
@soniscrazy Jordan actually said kobe should be compared to him so stop talking out of your ass like you know the damn dudes. Stats aren't everything & even if they are kobe has just as good of stats as jordan.
@loplips Your talking about Kobe who played with MVP...Shaq..Three times SHAQ ment the most for the Finals...Kobe ..?? twice..Compared to jordans 6 Finals MVP's..kobe's ACHIEVEMENTS AND AWARDS AND STATS dont add up younging..Fucking 12 years old NEver watched baseketball befor Kobe..ashame
@soniscrazy So is that a fact or just your opinion that kobe was worse than shaq? Your telling me shaq & the lakers would've won *& dominated if kobe wasn't there? Cmon old man get with the program & stop hating. ITs all about the championship not about the PTS Kobe & MJ would both tell you that themselves if they had the chance. Kobe doesn't even know where he's at on any Leader boards he doesn't care he works for the Rings. Jordan played with some studs Rodman & pippin are top 100 all time
@loplips he does?..Maybe you should look up both of their names..and see that JOrdan's Achievements and Stats OUTDO kobes BY A LONG SHot..you must be blind...because someone with 6mvps,5mvps,6rings,10scoringtitles,2dunkchamps,1NCAAtittle,DPOY,ROY 30ppg is way better then 2mvps,1mvp,5rings,2scoringtitles,1dunkchamp,0-NCAAtitles,0-DPOY,0-ROY and averg's 25ppg..Looks like JORDAN MENT A WHOLE LOT MOre to his team then KOBES RAPPIST ass
@soniscrazy MJ said kobe deserves it so stop hating on kobe just because he's being compared to your great MJ. Kobe didn't even play in college so how could he get NCAA titles?If you were to talk to real players in the NBA such as kobe, Shaq, larry bird, Even MJ & many more have all said kobe is the one of the greatest if not the greatest to play the game. Keep your stats to yourself kobe says himself that he doesn't care about that, he says he wants championships.Thats all NBA player care about
@soniscrazy Are you talking about the same michael jordan that played along side dennis rodman & scottie pippin? while oakley there center was leading the league in rebounds? Not to mention Rodman & Scottie pippen are ranked top 100 all time. Kobe had Shaq true but thats it & he also won without him....Kobe is the greatest. I can't wait to hear the excuses from jordan fans when kobe gets more championships. BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur shit
@soniscrazy Whats with all this MVP talk? What does that even fucking mean when your comparing two guys in 2 different eras. Your saying they shouldn't be compared because of the difference in FINALS MVPS??? hahaha thats pretty much why t hey do get compared cuz thats al jordan really has on him. Thankyou for informing me & making sure that Kobe is still as good as jordan if not better.
@loplips Kobe's great, not as great but great. He can pass MJ in championships but that won't make him a better player. It means he had an awesome team, as did MJ. You can't tell me an all star PF in gasol, a veteran like Fisher, a defensive pest like Ron Artest, a facilitator in Odom and a Rebound machine like Bynum are not a good, if not great, team. Bottom Line though, Im not disrespecting Kobe. Rather Im giving him alota credit. Just not as much as MJ.
@Kyuubiroar1 artest scores like 7 its a game same with fisher he could barely keep his starting role as it is.bynum & pao are good when there healthy. MJ had a better team if you asked me Michael jordan, Dennis Rodman, Scottie Pippen, Ron Harper, Oakley Who was the best rebounder in the game at the time. They both had great teams & they should be compared is all I'm saying. All these jordan lovers get so offended when somebody says that Kobe is catching MJ.
@loplips Yes, a better team. Artest contributes on defense, he doesn't have to score since Kobe's there. Bynum's an aggressive rebounder and shot blocker, pau is a good shooter, rebounder, and an excellent post prescense.They're health is fine. Fisher has to be considered, even if he does have trouble, he can still knock a 3 down if left open. Ima Jordan lover but my point is Kobe isn't as important to his team as Jordan was the bulls. in that 94-95 season, 55 wins but a dismal playoff run.
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur shit
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....
@loplips Your talking about Kobe who only has 2 MVPS? and 1 regular MVP? against Jordans 6finals MVPS and 5 Regular MVPS...lol..do the math...who was better again?...Pippen nor Rodman won MVPS....SHaq had three..meaning Shaq had to step up to win those titles..NOT KOBE
People don't watch this because it's about MJ, they watch it because Kobe's name is in the title. Don't deny it, you are only watching it to see Kobe fail. Just keep adding fuel to the fire peasants
@movalcadillac So true, I'm a huge kobe fan, and I only watched it to see how bad kobe gets tore up. MJ the GOAT, KB comes right after.
But let's remember, Kobe dropped 50 on MJ while he was wearing a wizards jersey.. While this is just a 17 year old getting took to school by a grown man.
micheal jordan is the greatest player to grace the nba with his presence and the greatest of all time but kobe has been the most dominant player after jordan left the bulls... so by saying kobe sucks or lacking respect for his game is ignorant and shows how much u ppl dont know about basketball! U ppl can hate kobe all u want but u CANNOT DENY SKILL! Jordan is a better player than kobe no doubt but he is the only player better than kobe!
Jordan Accomplished Way to much to Not be the greatest of all time...and to say Kobe..Who in fact is a good player...is as good or close? to me as a fan is an insult....Its an Insult to Shaq Who won those Str8 three MVP's and Carried the lakers on his back Dominating Like ELITE players do to get MVP honors ..is an insult..Credit goes where its deserved..Kobe got two rings and 2 MVPs without shaq...thats great man..but NOT jordan..Directed to all Kobe Riders
I mean lets just be real: MJ accomplished TWICE as much as him in LESS games played, less missed shots, less T.O.s and in a MUCH TOUGHER & physically demanding DEFENSIVE era.
Notice when U continue to pin them with the facts, they just go into full blown douche mode because they KNOW they can't refute what you're saying LOL!!
Now he's just gonna claim that any facts or evidence as it relates to the topic, doesn't mean anything and that we're dumb or stupid from even mentioning it.
I see this from kobe homers ALL THE TIME.
It's like some ignorant, childish defense mechanism or something..
Wilt Chamberlin Only won 2 Rings,1 Final MVP's,4MVPs,7FirstNBA team,2Defense teams..Compared to Jordans NCAA title,10Scorering Titles,6MVPSfinals,6RIngs,5MVPs,14allstar,9Xdefense team..to me against More Better HOF
Numbers Never Lie..Numbers Show and reflect when someone is good and sucks..Numbers Are a true Fact to someones Performance...Please educate your self...Hopefully oneday u can run a Buisness and KNow that What the Numbers Reflect is how your buisness is doing..Cant Say Well Your Numbers Are Negative but Lie and say Buisness is good?..lmfao..and tim duncan Who's career is almost over..comparing him to Kevin who just started...WHo in Four years..Has done nothing but improve ON A HORRIBLE TEAM..
@soniscrazy Now you're throwing in business in the mix... Ok Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest player of ALL TIME then... Why are we having this argument when Wilt is obviously, undoubtedly above and beyond every player we mentioned ... Numbers never lie right....therefore Wilt> MJ... I rest my case
1st of all Wilt's a center and comparing him to guard is asinine, and just wreaks of juvenile desperation due to REPEATEDLY getting your ass handed to U on here LOL!!
Secondly, Wilt CONSISTENTLY DISAPPEARED in the playoffs and his #s PROVE it.
Why do U think the running joke/knock on him for his career was that he "wilted" when it counts?
Again...U have NO historical perspective on the game and your dumb, childish comments keep proving this...SMH
MJ shot .539% as a SG at his peak, which is BETTER than Wilt shot from the field his first 6 yrs in the league.
Wilt's efficiency didn't increase until his volume of shots went WAY down. He shot 54% at 25 shots per game, MJ shot 53.5% at 24.4 shots per game..virtually identical.
@blackadam06 You're mentally deficient if you couldn't note my sarcasm... I dont know if you have the memory of a fish but remember when I said MJ is the best of all time... AGAIN everything I spoke was the truth and it bothers you I get it... especially having a "kiddo" come here and have to educate you... you've shot back with desperate Lebron James Quotes and brought up Tv ratings LMAO! Dont waste your time with stats... It was nice educating you though... take care
Nah....that's just your obvious juvenile ignorance on full display. Guys like U tend to react like that when U get pounded with facts that U know U can't get around.
So U just go into full blown deny everything mode, and make ignorant comments like: " It was nice educating you"..SMH
@blackadam06 No old man... your hypocrisy stuns me.. you started with the condescending comments.. I FIRED back... simple as that... My argument was never Kobe>MJ as I have stated a million times... its the fact the people like you will never praise kobe or show the respect he deserves no matter what he does on the court because you're bitter... and that REMAINS true throughout this whole debate... SMH
No...it was just to state false info "in relation" to MJ to make for a more favorable comparison for him. U just didn't expect someone to call U on it, much less supply any evidence to back it.
That's what catches guys like U off guard LOL!!
"you will never praise kobe"
All that stuff you've said about him is fine when evaluating him individually. But this is a comparison, not an assessment of him based on his own merits.
KOBE Shoots bricks everynight..Kobe does BIG NUMBERS when the GAME DOES NOT MATTER...lmao..holla at me when KOBE is MVP 6 timesin finals..and 5 times MVP season....WHEN IT MATTERS..not regular season..
Go tell that to kobe considering that in his last 94 playoff games, he's only shot a COMBINED 37% and out of those 94 games, he only has 13 games with 4 or more MADE shots in the 4th qtr.
U ignorant ass kobe homers are a PERFECT example of never learning the old passage about not casting stones when U live in glass house...SMH
Oh and Im not comparing their peaks Im saying in general overall which in part is why I said I can't judge him fully in that most skilled department, at least not yet anyway.
@blackadam06 Im not comparing as a whole and I can't truly argue about LeBron like that because he's only in his 9th year and is 27 I think but whenever his athleticism fails him and he has to adapt and do what Mike, Kobe, etc did as their athleticism failed, I don't know but considering his gift physically I dont think he'll work on those skills once he loses his speed, hops, etc.
Since one's consistently good or bad on-court results (stats) from their play, allegedly doesn't reflect their skill level, then somebody please invalidate the following...and I wanna know HOW you're gonna do it:
-- Ray Allen's a better scorer than Durant & kobe
-- Luke Walton's a better rebounder than Kevin Love & Rodman
-- Melo's a better assists guy than Magic & Stockton
-- D-Howard's a better free throw shooter than Nash
I can only imagine the absurd & asinine excuses I'm sure to hear LOL!!
@blackadam06 Ok then with your logic Oscar Robertson is a better all-around player than Michael Jordan so therefore he's the better player right?... When you look at a guy like Kevin Love and see his stats right now, you would see that he matches if not better than Tim Duncans best season, but when you judge from actually WATCHING the games, you would know that Kevin Love could never compare to a primed Tim Duncan... STATS ARE DECEIVING
"When you look at a guy like Kevin Love and see his stats right now, you would see that he matches if not better than Tim Duncans best season"
So I guess the #s god just made him look like Tim's equal huh? I guess those #s came outta nowhere & his play didn't actually bring that into fruition huh?
"Kevin Love could never compare to a primed Tim Duncan
Explain his on-court production then?
"STATS ARE DECEIVING"
Well since we're throwing out the facts, hey Arenas is better than kobe..
@blackadam06 Ok you can go ahead and clean his jizz from your face Stat nerd... Ill put it this way.. if im honest Jordan DOES have the better legacy overall and probably will BUT, when Kobe was on his game.. im talkin (50 4 str8 games, 62 in 3 quarters outscoring Dallas, 81!, amony many others)there is NOBODY I REPEAT NOBODY you could say was better than him at any point of their career during those stretches..Granted MJ was more consistent..but u needa give credit where its due
You're just another 1 of these historically challenged, "prisoner of the moment" kobe homers.
David Thompson once scored 73 pts and started passing in the 2nd half because during those days, it was considered in poor taste to keep shooting & scoring when you're team was winning!
George Gervin & Karl Malone scored 63 & 61 pts respectively in 3 qtrs (with NO 3ptrs), yet U say "no one was better" than kobe during his stretch?
This is WHY longtime fans clown U kobe fanboys so much..SMH
@blackadam06 And stop being an idiot... If you hadn't noticed Im praising Michael Jordan and regarded him as the best player of all time... The problem with people like you is that you will never accept anything "new" and become stubborn minded that you could never find it in you to ever praise a guy like Kobe...I know a bitter person when I see one or read what he has to say..Again MJ>Kobe..but even your idol himself said Kobes the only person that deserves to be mentioned with him
Pfff....and I know a uninformed fool who's just trying to save face when I see one.
"even your idol himself said Kobes the only person that deserves to be mentioned with him"
Once again your comment lacks context. If you'd actually heard the conversation in its entirety, you'd know that when said that he was ONLY referring to a comparison in terms of kobe's work ethic, skill level..SMH
@blackadam06 Saving Face? Lmao everything I said is the truth... You have some kind of mental deficiency ... did you read the part when I said MJ is the best ever and I never disputed that ofcourse not.. you're just here to argue and bash Kobe because your a bitter old (Back in my day everything was perfect) type MJ homer... Like I said you could never get it in you to praise a guy like Kobe
"your a bitter old (Back in my day everything was perfect) type MJ homer"
Well lets ask a current player about this era vs MJ's:
"Hopefully the league can figure out a way where it can [go back] to the [80s] where you had [three or four] All-Stars, superstars or Hall of Famers on the same team. The league [was great]. It [wasn't] as [watered down] as it [is now]."
-- Lebron James: "LeBron hints contraction may help NBA"; msn.foxsport.com Dec 24, 2010
@blackadam06 Man I thought you were smarter than that... Lebron? REALLY?.. talk about a guy trying to save face after his "Decision"... Why dont you respond to my other points...You are bitter man theres no getting around that but more importantly HAHAHA you just quoted Lebron James
"Our rules are [focused] on keeping the middle [open] to offer [more opportunities] for players to [cut & penetrate] to the basket. When we [disallowed] the use of the [hand] and [forearm] to the [body], the [defensive 3-second rule] in [conjunction] with the [hand check] interpretation, [gave] offensive players on the [perimeter], [more] offensive [freedom]."
-- Stu Jackson; NBA Exec. VP of Operations; "Season Review with Stu Jackson", May 5, 2007
@blackadam06 Nobodys clownin me... when Magic Johnson and Jerry West themselves regard Kobe as the greatest Laker of all time... I think they know about the game a little more than a stat freak like you
@blackadam06 Ok then answer this STAT FREAK... why couldnt Jordan ever score that much against the 27th ranked defense... THATS RIGHT HE COULDN'T!... then you might say kobe took 46 shots that game... and Jordans 60 point games he put up about 40 shots on all of them when Kobe had 2 60 point games with 31 shots taken... Im pretty sure Jordan faced the 14th 21st 26th and 30th ranked defenses of the league every season giving him the oppurtunity..VERY WEAK ARGUMENT
@blackadam06 omg..its like these kids turn the eye when it comes to what jordan has done in the finals,playoffs,to Better deffenses,Better Center's..Against HOF..lmao..jordan was scoring 60 against Magic and Bird...Kobe scores 81points aaginst SUNS..or w/e..lmao
Because unlike kobe, if MJ was having a big scoring night vs a garbage team, he'd go sit down if the game was in order. If you'd actually seen MJ's career *which I'm starting to think U didn't), you'd know this.
Now why hasn't kobe consistently avg'd AT LEAST 30ppg in the post Shaq era, especially since he's consistently leading the league in usage rate, is in the Top 3 in FGAs, and plays in a era with rules that that the league ADMITS were implemented to FAVOR guys like himself?
@blackadam06 I did watch Mj Games as a matter of fact... and ofcourse you're right Kobe never sat out of fourth quarters after having big scoring nights ... he never sat out of 4th quarters after scoring 50 or 50 during the first 3... ya that never happened... I thought you would have done your hw being a "stat" guy...
@BigSAK88 but kobe put up those numbers in LA when they HAD no one..so yea..being by yourself being a ball hog you will end up with numbers that got him NO where...those 81 points,62points,50 4 str8 games..Got him NO awards No trophy's NO Achievements..so..your guy is putting up stats that mean nothing..atleast Jordan Has AWARDS,STATS,TITLES,RINGS,MVPS,SCOREING TITLES,NCAA TItle,DPOY..i mean come on..KObe doesnt stand a chance.. close too...lmao
@soniscrazy yea kobe doesnt have any rings...right....hes not leading the league in scoring at 33 either...right... steve nash has 2 mvps 1 more than shaq he is the better player....right.... when your idol himself along with Laker legends show their respect and say kobes the greatest laker of all time you know you dont even deserve recognition...right
@BigSAK88 no stats are not....no one would put kevin love next to tim..cant untill both career's are over and can judge by numbers and achievments....stats and awards mean everything...kevin love can put up numbers but will he achieve the highest award a ring...when tim retires..we can say he is elite..he's got 4 rings..
@soniscrazy My point is Tim Duncan did not put up the greatest stats by any means... but he is undoubtedly the GREATEST PF to ever play the game, and this is coming from a Lakers fan that used to hate the spurs.... the Lebron>Kobe people need to lay off... and dont ever Kevin Love to Tim Duncan AGAIN Numbers LIE.... I watched them both in their prime and his presence is NOT even Close
guarding jordan at his current age is still scary
grazemn 3 hours ago
Vai kobe...vai...kkkkkkkkkkkk
Bruuuuuhhhhhh 5 hours ago
You have to remember that it took Kobe several years to develop a consistent personal defense. I mean there used to be alot of guys that schooled him, when they had the ball.
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tiger1649 1 day ago
Guarding him is scary in general LOL
kevinred9 1 day ago
YOU REACH I TEACH
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Jordan >= Kobe > LeChoke. straight up.
The714rodz 3 days ago
Now Kobe says..."try it now Jordan!"
Dadrew200 3 days ago
@Dadrew200 Jordan says..."still can't beat me!"
iKno3R1t3 3 days ago
@Dadrew200 yea cuz jordan is like 50?
roostercogburn190644 2 days ago
@Dadrew200 lol yeah kobe would need that kinda advantage in order to beat him
crayrayc 1 day ago
Learning experience
ImThatBlaqGuy 4 days ago
They call me the Bus Driver, kid, because I'm about to take you to school!
tron81 5 days ago 3
@tron81 Dud lol
alec9tap 4 days ago
jordan is the greatest bball player ever.
goon4life95 5 days ago
KOBE <<<<< MJ
enough said.
Sensui01 5 days ago
No disrespect to the goat, but if you watch the replay at 15 secs exactly, he moves both feet to the right and then changes to the left, thats traveling.
monabernie 5 days ago
@monabernie looks like he moved both feet before the ball left his hand, so yeah.. but it's the NBA so nobody ever travels :P
jordanism 23 hours ago
MJ>FAKE MJ.
djg34djg 6 days ago 2
how scary would it be to guard jordan as a 17-18 year old rookie?
Airbear12321 6 days ago 67
@Airbear12321 lmfaoo 17 but yeah id shit my pants
lakersfan24129 4 days ago
Jordan > Kobe. straight up.
upperambiguity 6 days ago 44
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The714rodz 3 days ago
WOW Jordan schooled a rookie straight out of high school!! That proves he's the greatest!!!!!... fags.
yourassismine 6 days ago
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Jordan < Kobe
UBSWhobilly 6 days ago
@UBSWhobilly Lolwut
lqtm237 6 days ago
@UBSWhobilly Jordan schooled and schools Nobe in every way possible. HAHA....even the dumb ring argument, Jordan wins.
dhstandard22 6 days ago 3
Your boss at work is your boss because of his stats,awards and achievements that he holds over everyone in the office..because if not then ANYONE would be boss..Stats,Achievements and Awards is what sets us apart from morons like u
soniscrazy 1 week ago
well your kobe's MVP's ment nothing in allstar games..my guy was MVP in Title runs..LMFAO which means everything..
soniscrazy 1 week ago
......well he was like 17 or 18 in the film so i think michael wouldove taken him, bet he cant do that now lol
lilamos07 1 week ago
@lilamos07 yes he can
TheDp321 6 days ago
@SportsMadness11 I mean the other guy who talked about lebron
SportsMadness11 1 week ago
@godsboss24 u are dumb and who cares about a stupid dick these days
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tiger1649 1 week ago
Wow look how young Kobe is jesus
richardboy316 1 week ago
As a die hard MJ fan, Kobe is amazing and easily one of the greatest and this vid doesnt do him justice, as far as comparing the two, My defense is that MJ went to the playoffs every year of his career(excluding Wizard years), won every Final he was in and the MVP(6), and by far was the better defensive player, and to finish it off MJ's list of achievements has its own wikipedia page...hahaha...all hail His Airness...
jpmcam35 1 week ago
kobe sucks wtf lol lebron alway i mean always own kobe
Michaelmyers123ify 1 week ago
ohhh yeah! Jordan did school an 18-19 year old, wet behind the ears, YOUNG Kobe Bryant!
ericd00e 1 week ago
wait if u look very closely u can see lebron traveling
deeboy131 1 week ago
@deeboy131 stupid ass. get a new joke already.shit hasnt been funny for 5 years now
godsboss24 1 week ago
@godsboss24 shut yp bitch ass up on the real
deeboy131 1 week ago
@deeboy131 shut up idiot.why bring up lebron?hes not in this video? dumbfuck. you aint funny at all. go play in traffic
godsboss24 1 week ago
@godsboss24 if u watch sports center or espn they're sayin lebron will be better than jordan came out of his mouth and larry birds so therefore i can say wat i want
deeboy131 1 week ago
@deeboy131 what does any of that have to do with you bringing up lebron in this video? hes not in it,so how could he travel? you arent funny. just stop
godsboss24 1 week ago
@godsboss24 y did u even comment on my comment and i said it because i kan say it and wnt nobody stop me
deeboy131 1 week ago
@deeboy131 because people like you are dumb. you think saying lebron traveled in every video is funny? its not. hes not even in this video idiot. come up with a new joke already
godsboss24 1 week ago
@godsboss24 this is the first video i said anything about lebron so speak wat u know
deeboy131 1 week ago
@deeboy131 haha what?! i just went on your page and u said the same thing about lebron on like 5 different videos. none of which he was even in. dont lie
godsboss24 1 week ago
@godsboss24 dnt have a reason to lie and why are u on my page anyway u fuckin stalker
deeboy131 6 days ago
@deeboy131 shut up loser. you are a lebron hating moron. quit bringing him up on every basketball video saying he traveled. it aint funny
godsboss24 6 days ago
@godsboss24 lebron is my favorite bball player
deeboy131 5 days ago
kobe sucks thats how its done bitch!!
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754moham 1 week ago
Well id rather an 6final MVP,5xRegular MVP then a 2finalMVP and 1 regular..shows me who's worth more for their team when "NEEDED"
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soniscrazy 1 week ago
Shut up loplips and sonic you guys are freaking blowing up this poor kids channel.
SnigglePops1 1 week ago
Scottie Pippen 0 final MVPS,0 regular Season MVPS,Rodman 0 final MVPS 0 regular MVPS.....
Shaq 3 MVPS and 1 Regular MVP..Why do everyone keep saying Jordan was lucky..NOT ONCE..not ONCE>.did Jordan get to sit back and let scottie and Rodman win the finals..NEVER...now KOBE all he had to do was pass shaq the rock....shaq 3 MVPS...kobe 2 MVPS..lmao..looks like kobe was riding more then he was Leading
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy What does that even mean? So kobe isn't as good as Shaq then? Tim duncan is better then kobe since he has 3 MVPS? Just get ready to blow me & kobe when he gets that 6th & 7th ring.
loplips 1 week ago
@loplips your telling me you since stats and achievements dont matter your high school diploma wont matter when u look for a job?..lmfao dumb fuk..evertything COUNTS...called a BODY OF WORK..and when kobe retires..it wont be as long as jordans..or wide as.....and YES..id RATHER SOMEONE THAT TAKES OVER FINALS then someone that DOESNT..GIVE ME AN MVP then someone THAT ISNT MVP..lol you are so dumb..its like saying u'd rather DAN MARINO instead of JOE MONTAN.Give me someone that will take over.MVP
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy Wow a lot of people would take Dan Marino over joe montana. Your the dumbass putting STATS and a Highschool Diploma in the same sentence. Then you say its about a body of work? Is it about your work or your diploma? Either way i didn't get my diploma & your right it is about your body of work which is why I'm getting paid more than anyone i went to school with. Again all you can ay is MVP this and mvp that. Well Kobe got more All-star MVPS then MJ so whats that mean? So your wrong.
loplips 1 week ago
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aman200balla 1 week ago
Michael jordan on a 17 years old Kobe Bryant...Almost as good as kobe dropping 50 on MJ when he was on the wizards.
loplips 1 week ago
But fell prety short
soniscrazy 1 week ago
Lmao at the Kobe haters.. KOBE IS THE MOST TALENTER BALLER EVER.
espdemon 1 week ago
@espdemon Talenter? -_-
Seahawkfan05 1 week ago
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@espdemon kobe may be a talented baller, but he doesnt have the strength of character that mike had which inspired so many people
allacasam 1 week ago
Little did they know that Kobe would become almost as big as Jordan....
USCTrojansFan420 1 week ago
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@USCTrojansFan420 yeah...except not
allacasam 1 week ago
KOBE WILL NEVER HAVE = ROY,DPOY,NCAA title,5 regular season MVPS,or 6 FInal MVPS, or 10 Scoreing titles..NEVER will he get those...so how the fuck can he be compared to jordan?..he averg's 25.0ppg jordan 30ppg
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy Jordan actually said kobe should be compared to him so stop talking out of your ass like you know the damn dudes. Stats aren't everything & even if they are kobe has just as good of stats as jordan.
loplips 1 week ago
@loplips Your talking about Kobe who played with MVP...Shaq..Three times SHAQ ment the most for the Finals...Kobe ..?? twice..Compared to jordans 6 Finals MVP's..kobe's ACHIEVEMENTS AND AWARDS AND STATS dont add up younging..Fucking 12 years old NEver watched baseketball befor Kobe..ashame
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy So is that a fact or just your opinion that kobe was worse than shaq? Your telling me shaq & the lakers would've won *& dominated if kobe wasn't there? Cmon old man get with the program & stop hating. ITs all about the championship not about the PTS Kobe & MJ would both tell you that themselves if they had the chance. Kobe doesn't even know where he's at on any Leader boards he doesn't care he works for the Rings. Jordan played with some studs Rodman & pippin are top 100 all time
loplips 1 week ago
@loplips he does?..Maybe you should look up both of their names..and see that JOrdan's Achievements and Stats OUTDO kobes BY A LONG SHot..you must be blind...because someone with 6mvps,5mvps,6rings,10scoringtitles,2dunkchamps,1NCAAtittle,DPOY,ROY 30ppg is way better then 2mvps,1mvp,5rings,2scoringtitles,1dunkchamp,0-NCAAtitles,0-DPOY,0-ROY and averg's 25ppg..Looks like JORDAN MENT A WHOLE LOT MOre to his team then KOBES RAPPIST ass
soniscrazy 1 week ago 2
@soniscrazy MJ said kobe deserves it so stop hating on kobe just because he's being compared to your great MJ. Kobe didn't even play in college so how could he get NCAA titles?If you were to talk to real players in the NBA such as kobe, Shaq, larry bird, Even MJ & many more have all said kobe is the one of the greatest if not the greatest to play the game. Keep your stats to yourself kobe says himself that he doesn't care about that, he says he wants championships.Thats all NBA player care about
loplips 1 week ago
Kobe struggles behind jordan...jordan is perfect AND NEVER was a ROBIN to NO FINALS...while Kobe has been a RObin at many finals....
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy Are you talking about the same michael jordan that played along side dennis rodman & scottie pippin? while oakley there center was leading the league in rebounds? Not to mention Rodman & Scottie pippen are ranked top 100 all time. Kobe had Shaq true but thats it & he also won without him....Kobe is the greatest. I can't wait to hear the excuses from jordan fans when kobe gets more championships. BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
loplips 1 week ago
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur shit
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy Whats with all this MVP talk? What does that even fucking mean when your comparing two guys in 2 different eras. Your saying they shouldn't be compared because of the difference in FINALS MVPS??? hahaha thats pretty much why t hey do get compared cuz thats al jordan really has on him. Thankyou for informing me & making sure that Kobe is still as good as jordan if not better.
loplips 1 week ago
@loplips Kobe's great, not as great but great. He can pass MJ in championships but that won't make him a better player. It means he had an awesome team, as did MJ. You can't tell me an all star PF in gasol, a veteran like Fisher, a defensive pest like Ron Artest, a facilitator in Odom and a Rebound machine like Bynum are not a good, if not great, team. Bottom Line though, Im not disrespecting Kobe. Rather Im giving him alota credit. Just not as much as MJ.
Kyuubiroar1 1 week ago
@Kyuubiroar1 artest scores like 7 its a game same with fisher he could barely keep his starting role as it is.bynum & pao are good when there healthy. MJ had a better team if you asked me Michael jordan, Dennis Rodman, Scottie Pippen, Ron Harper, Oakley Who was the best rebounder in the game at the time. They both had great teams & they should be compared is all I'm saying. All these jordan lovers get so offended when somebody says that Kobe is catching MJ.
loplips 1 week ago
@loplips Yes, a better team. Artest contributes on defense, he doesn't have to score since Kobe's there. Bynum's an aggressive rebounder and shot blocker, pau is a good shooter, rebounder, and an excellent post prescense.They're health is fine. Fisher has to be considered, even if he does have trouble, he can still knock a 3 down if left open. Ima Jordan lover but my point is Kobe isn't as important to his team as Jordan was the bulls. in that 94-95 season, 55 wins but a dismal playoff run.
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@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur shit
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur
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@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur
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@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....come on homie learn ur
soniscrazy 1 week ago
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@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@loplips your saying someone is the greatest with WAY LESS achievements,AWARDS and STATS...Jordan Had Pippen yes..He had Rodman yes..BUT WAS EITHER ONE MVP EVER?....really..tell me 1 MVP that Jordan Got to play with..Tell me When Jordan Didnt have to step up in order for the Bulls to Win?..Now Kobe..He played along side a MVP..Shaq.who was MVP three times in a row for the Finals....YOUR KOBE MENT MVP ONLY twice for the finals..and only ONCE for the regualy season....
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@loplips Your talking about Kobe who only has 2 MVPS? and 1 regular MVP? against Jordans 6finals MVPS and 5 Regular MVPS...lol..do the math...who was better again?...Pippen nor Rodman won MVPS....SHaq had three..meaning Shaq had to step up to win those titles..NOT KOBE
soniscrazy 1 week ago
People don't watch this because it's about MJ, they watch it because Kobe's name is in the title. Don't deny it, you are only watching it to see Kobe fail. Just keep adding fuel to the fire peasants
movalcadillac 1 week ago
@movalcadillac So true, I'm a huge kobe fan, and I only watched it to see how bad kobe gets tore up. MJ the GOAT, KB comes right after.
But let's remember, Kobe dropped 50 on MJ while he was wearing a wizards jersey.. While this is just a 17 year old getting took to school by a grown man.
krisadhikari7 1 week ago
comments suck, jordan rules, greatest of all time!
total360AMC 1 week ago
you big dummy dont you know nobody can cover him
ThePwicker13 1 week ago
Kobe is Elite..to be honest no one said Kobe is Horrible..Just was Making Valid Comments On Why Kobe isnt even Close to MJ....NO one is...NO one...
soniscrazy 1 week ago
micheal jordan is the greatest player to grace the nba with his presence and the greatest of all time but kobe has been the most dominant player after jordan left the bulls... so by saying kobe sucks or lacking respect for his game is ignorant and shows how much u ppl dont know about basketball! U ppl can hate kobe all u want but u CANNOT DENY SKILL! Jordan is a better player than kobe no doubt but he is the only player better than kobe!
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tiger1649 1 week ago
Jordan Accomplished Way to much to Not be the greatest of all time...and to say Kobe..Who in fact is a good player...is as good or close? to me as a fan is an insult....Its an Insult to Shaq Who won those Str8 three MVP's and Carried the lakers on his back Dominating Like ELITE players do to get MVP honors ..is an insult..Credit goes where its deserved..Kobe got two rings and 2 MVPs without shaq...thats great man..but NOT jordan..Directed to all Kobe Riders
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blackadam06 1 week ago
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@soniscrazy
Exactly...
I mean lets just be real: MJ accomplished TWICE as much as him in LESS games played, less missed shots, less T.O.s and in a MUCH TOUGHER & physically demanding DEFENSIVE era.
blackadam06 1 week ago
remember...Achievements,Awards,Statistic's..they all come in to play when u "Compare,Judge and Rank" something...
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy
Notice when U continue to pin them with the facts, they just go into full blown douche mode because they KNOW they can't refute what you're saying LOL!!
Now he's just gonna claim that any facts or evidence as it relates to the topic, doesn't mean anything and that we're dumb or stupid from even mentioning it.
I see this from kobe homers ALL THE TIME.
It's like some ignorant, childish defense mechanism or something..
blackadam06 1 week ago
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Wilt Chamberlin Only won 2 Rings,1 Final MVP's,4MVPs,7FirstNBA team,2Defense teams..Compared to Jordans NCAA title,10Scorering Titles,6MVPSfinals,6RIngs,5MVPs,14allstar,9Xdefense team..to me against More Better HOF
soniscrazy 1 week ago
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soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy Ya but according to you its all about NUMBERS.... STATS WILT>MJ hahaha
BigSAK88 1 week ago
Kareem
In high school:
* led team to 3 straight titles and a 71 game win streak (72-9 overall)
At UCLA:
* led bruins to 3 titles; 2x Player Of The Year;
* 3x 1st Team All American; Most Outstanding Player in NCAA tourney; USBWA Player OF The Year; Helms Player Of The Year (only guy in history to do so)
* 1st EVER selected Naismith Player OF The Year
Now couple this with his UNREAL pro resume, U think he ranks behind kobe?!!
GTFOH LOL!!
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 The guy that played WITH HIM seems to think so
BigSAK88 1 week ago
i bet Our government wished numbers lied..cause then we wouldnt be n debt
soniscrazy 1 week ago
Numbers Never Lie..Numbers Show and reflect when someone is good and sucks..Numbers Are a true Fact to someones Performance...Please educate your self...Hopefully oneday u can run a Buisness and KNow that What the Numbers Reflect is how your buisness is doing..Cant Say Well Your Numbers Are Negative but Lie and say Buisness is good?..lmfao..and tim duncan Who's career is almost over..comparing him to Kevin who just started...WHo in Four years..Has done nothing but improve ON A HORRIBLE TEAM..
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy Now you're throwing in business in the mix... Ok Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest player of ALL TIME then... Why are we having this argument when Wilt is obviously, undoubtedly above and beyond every player we mentioned ... Numbers never lie right....therefore Wilt> MJ... I rest my case
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
1st of all Wilt's a center and comparing him to guard is asinine, and just wreaks of juvenile desperation due to REPEATEDLY getting your ass handed to U on here LOL!!
Secondly, Wilt CONSISTENTLY DISAPPEARED in the playoffs and his #s PROVE it.
Why do U think the running joke/knock on him for his career was that he "wilted" when it counts?
Again...U have NO historical perspective on the game and your dumb, childish comments keep proving this...SMH
blackadam06 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
MJ shot .539% as a SG at his peak, which is BETTER than Wilt shot from the field his first 6 yrs in the league.
Wilt's efficiency didn't increase until his volume of shots went WAY down. He shot 54% at 25 shots per game, MJ shot 53.5% at 24.4 shots per game..virtually identical.
Scoring Titles: MJ 10 > Wilt 7.
Seasons over 30ppg: MJ 8 > Wilt 7
30+ppg Playoff Runs: MJ 12 > Wilt 4
32+ppg Playoff Runs: MJ 8 > Wilt 4
34+ppg Playoff Runs: MJ 7 > Wilt 3
Finals MVP: MJ 6 > Wilt 1
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 You're mentally deficient if you couldn't note my sarcasm... I dont know if you have the memory of a fish but remember when I said MJ is the best of all time... AGAIN everything I spoke was the truth and it bothers you I get it... especially having a "kiddo" come here and have to educate you... you've shot back with desperate Lebron James Quotes and brought up Tv ratings LMAO! Dont waste your time with stats... It was nice educating you though... take care
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
Sarcasm?
Nah....that's just your obvious juvenile ignorance on full display. Guys like U tend to react like that when U get pounded with facts that U know U can't get around.
So U just go into full blown deny everything mode, and make ignorant comments like: " It was nice educating you"..SMH
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 No old man... your hypocrisy stuns me.. you started with the condescending comments.. I FIRED back... simple as that... My argument was never Kobe>MJ as I have stated a million times... its the fact the people like you will never praise kobe or show the respect he deserves no matter what he does on the court because you're bitter... and that REMAINS true throughout this whole debate... SMH
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
"My argument was never Kobe>MJ"
No...it was just to state false info "in relation" to MJ to make for a more favorable comparison for him. U just didn't expect someone to call U on it, much less supply any evidence to back it.
That's what catches guys like U off guard LOL!!
"you will never praise kobe"
All that stuff you've said about him is fine when evaluating him individually. But this is a comparison, not an assessment of him based on his own merits.
What's there to be bitter about?
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Anyways my bad on the disrespect
BigSAK88 1 week ago
KOBE Shoots bricks everynight..Kobe does BIG NUMBERS when the GAME DOES NOT MATTER...lmao..holla at me when KOBE is MVP 6 timesin finals..and 5 times MVP season....WHEN IT MATTERS..not regular season..
soniscrazy 1 week ago
lol ya'll keep running into a brick wall with this shit..and jordans still sitting on top that bitch..so please go sit down..and keep learning
soniscrazy 1 week ago
stats don't mean shit, if you can't finish fourth quarter
2CrazEy1 1 week ago
@2CrazEy1
Really?
Go tell that to kobe considering that in his last 94 playoff games, he's only shot a COMBINED 37% and out of those 94 games, he only has 13 games with 4 or more MADE shots in the 4th qtr.
U ignorant ass kobe homers are a PERFECT example of never learning the old passage about not casting stones when U live in glass house...SMH
blackadam06 1 week ago
kobe = GOAT.....FACT
TheFactsGuy101 1 week ago
@TheFactsGuy101
Yeah...he's the
(G)reatest at
(O)ften
(A)ngering his
(T)eammates & coaches
blackadam06 1 week ago
yea...i cant imagine if kevin love continue's...he's only like 23...
soniscrazy 1 week ago
Oh and Im not comparing their peaks Im saying in general overall which in part is why I said I can't judge him fully in that most skilled department, at least not yet anyway.
demvaboiz 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Im not comparing as a whole and I can't truly argue about LeBron like that because he's only in his 9th year and is 27 I think but whenever his athleticism fails him and he has to adapt and do what Mike, Kobe, etc did as their athleticism failed, I don't know but considering his gift physically I dont think he'll work on those skills once he loses his speed, hops, etc.
demvaboiz 1 week ago
Since one's consistently good or bad on-court results (stats) from their play, allegedly doesn't reflect their skill level, then somebody please invalidate the following...and I wanna know HOW you're gonna do it:
-- Ray Allen's a better scorer than Durant & kobe
-- Luke Walton's a better rebounder than Kevin Love & Rodman
-- Melo's a better assists guy than Magic & Stockton
-- D-Howard's a better free throw shooter than Nash
I can only imagine the absurd & asinine excuses I'm sure to hear LOL!!
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Ok then with your logic Oscar Robertson is a better all-around player than Michael Jordan so therefore he's the better player right?... When you look at a guy like Kevin Love and see his stats right now, you would see that he matches if not better than Tim Duncans best season, but when you judge from actually WATCHING the games, you would know that Kevin Love could never compare to a primed Tim Duncan... STATS ARE DECEIVING
BigSAK88 1 week ago
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blackadam06 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
"Ok then with your logic Oscar Robertson is a better all-around player than Michael Jordan"
Hey kiddo B4 U try to circumvent the facts with your childish deficiencies in comprehending basic facts, please go do some research...SMH
The ONLY thing Oscar outclasses MJ in is rebs & assists, but that's where it stops.
Go check their PER..
This accounts for "overall" on-court performance (pts, rebs, asts, FG%, blks, stls, etc.).
blackadam06 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
The Bigs usually posts the BEST PERs and due to FG% ALONE, it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE for guards to consistently post high marks in this area.
But guess who's #1 All Time and holds 4 of the All Time Top 7 BEST overall seasons...as a guard?!!
Guess who also finished in the Top 2 10x in this area?
Just take a guess kiddo...
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@BigSAKA88
"When you look at a guy like Kevin Love and see his stats right now, you would see that he matches if not better than Tim Duncans best season"
So I guess the #s god just made him look like Tim's equal huh? I guess those #s came outta nowhere & his play didn't actually bring that into fruition huh?
"Kevin Love could never compare to a primed Tim Duncan
Explain his on-court production then?
"STATS ARE DECEIVING"
Well since we're throwing out the facts, hey Arenas is better than kobe..
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Ok you can go ahead and clean his jizz from your face Stat nerd... Ill put it this way.. if im honest Jordan DOES have the better legacy overall and probably will BUT, when Kobe was on his game.. im talkin (50 4 str8 games, 62 in 3 quarters outscoring Dallas, 81!, amony many others)there is NOBODY I REPEAT NOBODY you could say was better than him at any point of their career during those stretches..Granted MJ was more consistent..but u needa give credit where its due
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
Like all kobe homers, your comments are childish & SERIOUSLY LACKS context & historical perspective, so lemme help U:
4 straight 50 pt games vs the #14, 21, 26 & 30 ranked defenses?
Talk to me when he has 8 PLAYOFF games of 50+ pts or 1 in the finals.
63 pts vs #1 ranked defense > 62 in 3 qtrs vs a non Top 10 defense
40ppg on 51.3 FG% for HALF a season > 81 pts vs #27 ranked defense
Noticing a trend yet with WHO kobe scores big against?
MJ = Lion > kobe = tom cat
blackadam06 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
You're just another 1 of these historically challenged, "prisoner of the moment" kobe homers.
David Thompson once scored 73 pts and started passing in the 2nd half because during those days, it was considered in poor taste to keep shooting & scoring when you're team was winning!
George Gervin & Karl Malone scored 63 & 61 pts respectively in 3 qtrs (with NO 3ptrs), yet U say "no one was better" than kobe during his stretch?
This is WHY longtime fans clown U kobe fanboys so much..SMH
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 And stop being an idiot... If you hadn't noticed Im praising Michael Jordan and regarded him as the best player of all time... The problem with people like you is that you will never accept anything "new" and become stubborn minded that you could never find it in you to ever praise a guy like Kobe...I know a bitter person when I see one or read what he has to say..Again MJ>Kobe..but even your idol himself said Kobes the only person that deserves to be mentioned with him
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
"you will never accept anything "new"
?? Riiiiight...SMH
"I know a bitter person when I see one"
Pfff....and I know a uninformed fool who's just trying to save face when I see one.
"even your idol himself said Kobes the only person that deserves to be mentioned with him"
Once again your comment lacks context. If you'd actually heard the conversation in its entirety, you'd know that when said that he was ONLY referring to a comparison in terms of kobe's work ethic, skill level..SMH
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 and Magic and Jerry West saying Kobe was the greatest Laker... please explain... they cant possibly know anything about basketball
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
I don't have to agree with West & Magic just because they said it.
Hell when Magic said kobe's the greatest laker, the ENTIRE panel he was sitting with VEHEMENTLY disagreed.
And this was comprised MAINLY of former players, some of which were former lakers.
So are they retards too?
Nobody's "opinion" of a player's greatness is what "defines" it kiddo.
Their consistently good or bad on-court production & body of work is MORE credible & holds more weight than ANYBODY'S damn opinion!
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Saving Face? Lmao everything I said is the truth... You have some kind of mental deficiency ... did you read the part when I said MJ is the best ever and I never disputed that ofcourse not.. you're just here to argue and bash Kobe because your a bitter old (Back in my day everything was perfect) type MJ homer... Like I said you could never get it in you to praise a guy like Kobe
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
"your a bitter old (Back in my day everything was perfect) type MJ homer"
Well lets ask a current player about this era vs MJ's:
"Hopefully the league can figure out a way where it can [go back] to the [80s] where you had [three or four] All-Stars, superstars or Hall of Famers on the same team. The league [was great]. It [wasn't] as [watered down] as it [is now]."
-- Lebron James: "LeBron hints contraction may help NBA"; msn.foxsport.com Dec 24, 2010
Guess he's bitter too?
LOL!!
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Man I thought you were smarter than that... Lebron? REALLY?.. talk about a guy trying to save face after his "Decision"... Why dont you respond to my other points...You are bitter man theres no getting around that but more importantly HAHAHA you just quoted Lebron James
BigSAK88 1 week ago
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"Our rules are [focused] on keeping the middle [open] to offer [more opportunities] for players to [cut & penetrate] to the basket. When we [disallowed] the use of the [hand] and [forearm] to the [body], the [defensive 3-second rule] in [conjunction] with the [hand check] interpretation, [gave] offensive players on the [perimeter], [more] offensive [freedom]."
-- Stu Jackson; NBA Exec. VP of Operations; "Season Review with Stu Jackson", May 5, 2007
Y2K NBA = WWE b-ball
blackadam06 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
Seasons with:
+15 Finals rating: 90s: 5 > 80s: 3 > Y2K: 0
+16 Finals rating: 90s: 4 > 80s: 0 = Y2K: 0
+17 Finals rating: 90s: 2 > 80s: 0 = Y2K: 0
+18 Finals rating: 90s: 1 > 80s: 0 = Y2K: 0
The HIGHEST Nielsen's TV ratings in NBA history regarding the reg season, all star games, playoffs, ALL COME FROM THE 80s & 90's.
Hmm?
It seems more people watched the game back then than they do now.
I guess there's A LOT of "bitter back in my day everything was perfect" homers out there LOL!!
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Now you're bringing up TV ratings LMAO... you're becoming desperate
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
TV ratings reflect viewership dumb ass!!
SMH..
Oh lemme guess...TV ratings don't mean they were watching huh?
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Nobodys clownin me... when Magic Johnson and Jerry West themselves regard Kobe as the greatest Laker of all time... I think they know about the game a little more than a stat freak like you
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
" I think they know about the game a little more than a stat freak like you"
I think I know the game better than a dummy like yourself.
There's NOW WAY that kobe's better than Kareem or has had a more significant impact than Magic on the laker franchise.
Get real...
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Ok then answer this STAT FREAK... why couldnt Jordan ever score that much against the 27th ranked defense... THATS RIGHT HE COULDN'T!... then you might say kobe took 46 shots that game... and Jordans 60 point games he put up about 40 shots on all of them when Kobe had 2 60 point games with 31 shots taken... Im pretty sure Jordan faced the 14th 21st 26th and 30th ranked defenses of the league every season giving him the oppurtunity..VERY WEAK ARGUMENT
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@blackadam06 omg..its like these kids turn the eye when it comes to what jordan has done in the finals,playoffs,to Better deffenses,Better Center's..Against HOF..lmao..jordan was scoring 60 against Magic and Bird...Kobe scores 81points aaginst SUNS..or w/e..lmao
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy then why didnt he score 81 against any shitty team he ever faced LMAO
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
Because unlike kobe, if MJ was having a big scoring night vs a garbage team, he'd go sit down if the game was in order. If you'd actually seen MJ's career *which I'm starting to think U didn't), you'd know this.
Now why hasn't kobe consistently avg'd AT LEAST 30ppg in the post Shaq era, especially since he's consistently leading the league in usage rate, is in the Top 3 in FGAs, and plays in a era with rules that that the league ADMITS were implemented to FAVOR guys like himself?
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 I did watch Mj Games as a matter of fact... and ofcourse you're right Kobe never sat out of fourth quarters after having big scoring nights ... he never sat out of 4th quarters after scoring 50 or 50 during the first 3... ya that never happened... I thought you would have done your hw being a "stat" guy...
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88 but kobe put up those numbers in LA when they HAD no one..so yea..being by yourself being a ball hog you will end up with numbers that got him NO where...those 81 points,62points,50 4 str8 games..Got him NO awards No trophy's NO Achievements..so..your guy is putting up stats that mean nothing..atleast Jordan Has AWARDS,STATS,TITLES,RINGS,MVPS,SCOREING TITLES,NCAA TItle,DPOY..i mean come on..KObe doesnt stand a chance.. close too...lmao
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy yea kobe doesnt have any rings...right....hes not leading the league in scoring at 33 either...right... steve nash has 2 mvps 1 more than shaq he is the better player....right.... when your idol himself along with Laker legends show their respect and say kobes the greatest laker of all time you know you dont even deserve recognition...right
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88 no stats are not....no one would put kevin love next to tim..cant untill both career's are over and can judge by numbers and achievments....stats and awards mean everything...kevin love can put up numbers but will he achieve the highest award a ring...when tim retires..we can say he is elite..he's got 4 rings..
soniscrazy 1 week ago
@soniscrazy My point is Tim Duncan did not put up the greatest stats by any means... but he is undoubtedly the GREATEST PF to ever play the game, and this is coming from a Lakers fan that used to hate the spurs.... the Lebron>Kobe people need to lay off... and dont ever Kevin Love to Tim Duncan AGAIN Numbers LIE.... I watched them both in their prime and his presence is NOT even Close
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88
"AGAIN Numbers LIE"
Lets ask kobe:
"The numbers [don't lie]"
-- Kobe Bryant: "Kobe Bryant defends Lakers' defense"; by Dave McMenamin, ESPN.go . com, Jan 26, 2011
I guess his 9-23 shooting (37%) from last night is also a lie huh? I guess he really didn't shoot EXTREMELY POOR after all...who knew LOL!!
And don't give me that "he made the game winner" line either, because that's 1 shot out his total.
Overall he was firing bricks all night.
But I guess that's a lie huh?
blackadam06 1 week ago
@blackadam06 Ok now answer this... who is the best PF of all time... and who are your top 10 players of all time
BigSAK88 1 week ago
@BigSAK88 and your talking about someone thats putting up Tim Duncan #'s at the age of 23 patna..kevin love is YOUNG
soniscrazy 1 week ago
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"do your homework"
No U do yours:
% of LA's pts scored in the Finals
2000: Shaq 38% > kobe 14%
2001: Shaq 33% > kobe 23%
2002: Shaq 36% > kobe 24%
2004: Shaq 26% < kobe 27% <--- Shaq was injured..notice they lost
Hey moron go check kobe's FG% in the finals..he's shot BELOW 40% in 5 of 'em, and has TWICE set the record for the most MISSED shots in a finals!
U really should go do some homework on this subject, because right now U sound like the typical, uninformed kobe fan-boy....SMH
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