I,m sorry, but this dreadful unChristian behaviour from people who think that they are Christians is so shocking that the rest of the world is watching stunned. We care for everybody here who needs medical care, we dont ask about 'illegal' nonsense or health funds or how big is your bank acount etc.Now we are really seeing what USA is like, we suspected it but NOW we know.I wonder if Jesus would turn away a sick person for no insurance or money?Didnt he upturn the money tables in the temple?God.
thanks for your reply back on my page. the thing people in this country don't realize is that government has been the problem (not the solution) with healthcare in this country for the last 45 years. Democrats and Republicans alike make a TON of money off the healthcare system and big pharmaceutical companies. But nobody wants to discuss that. They just want to yell or force there views(which are usually wrong on both sides) WAKE UP AMERICA! The 2 party system is actually a 1 party system.
I agree. No matter what party, the dollar has become God. As long as "we the people" allow ourselves to be manipulated for profit, nothing will change. I do agree that Gov has been the problem in the past, but I also believe that our only real hope of changing the curcumstances now is to spread as much accurate information as possible. This is an info war.
Very well put, it seems the contradiction is so obvious but these people are led to believe they're right. It really scares me when the whole premise of Jesus's message is trampled by the very people that use religion as a political motivator. It brings up questions of who or what is truly behind their rage.
This reaction to the possibility of you guys getting a health system that is fair, equal and Christian is shocking.Look at the so called 'socialist' countries with their systems, Canada etc. You deserve your appalling system with all these outbursts I was shocked when I was in USA and had to see a doctor. It cost me $220 for 10 mins!! It would be nothing or $20 here. Antibiotics $15 as against your $90!! And you WANT this nightmare? Reds under the beds is 1950's crap. USA is SO backward.
the thing everybody in this country seems to forget is WHY healthcare costs are so high. The reason is federal and state regulations imposed by the federal govt. Did you know we are not allowed to go outside our state to shop for for health insurance? And that only 2% of the healthcare system in the U.S. is actually "free market"? I agree the morons at these meetings should come armed with a few more facts about the healthcare system in this country. But the govt. is too involved in the 1st plce
How much goes to Wall mart, rent(or mortgage), Utility Co., Insurance Co., Loan payments, etc.
I don't know about you, but the vast majority of my money goes to private industry company profits. Not public welfare. If we could, I'd say do away with gov all together and then people would see how much they NEED it.
@youknowstevo What the hell are you talking about? More than 50% of my income goes to the government in one way or another. Income (both state and federal), Property tax, Sales tax, and a myriad of other taxes that 500 characters won't cover. I think you need to do a little better accounting of where your money goes my friend.
Cant believe you people. Do you think France, England and Australia are 'communist' countries? We enjoy a wonderful health system, so stress free from enormous bill and we pay only 1.6% health levy. You guys pay 6% and get nothing. CONTRARY to the usual scare mongering we do not have to wait for life saving treatment which we get NO questions asked.You have no exp of living in this sort of freedom, so you cant pass a criticism on it. Our system doesnt kill or abandon people bcause of no money.
Sock puppets, political windsocks, window dressing, smoke and mirrors..........it is awesome that people are wakening up to the monsters that you really are. Its taken some time to wake up, but here it is and here we are..............
And the US pays 23% of the UN's operating costs each year. Our latest fee to the UN (plus interest) was $906 million. A handsome fee (bribe) seeing how they do nothing, but conspire to usurp our constitution and wills of the people. Silly rabbits. I got you figured out. You and your profit racketeering schemes have hurt and damaged people for far to long. Now you want to play hide and seek with fundamental health care for americans. Shame, shame, shame.....financial terrorism is who you are.
Kathleen Sucubus works for Health & Human Services. That is, she is a conspirator for the disruption of families and the removal of children. Joe Biden was the first to provide funding for CPS. Bill Clinton signed onto the UN's rights of the Child which grants more rights of our children to the states. Barbara Boxer is pushing to have it Ratified. Am I seeing a pattern here.....?
The same gov't that promotes immigration is the same gov't that profits by it in the form of insurances, taxes and fees. Example: 30,000+ americans are fatalities each year in the US. Many are killed each day by illegal immigrants. Liabilities, funerals, lawsuits, settlements generates money for "their" national economy. Yes. They are killing us and profiting by it. Too busy incarcerating individuals who have damaged their economic schemes. Its an elaborate plan by which they profit.
I will buy you a beer while laughing all the way. Even Rahm Emanuel looks like Josef Goebbels. France, Germany and Canada (as well as other countries) have a good social health care system. Its a right. But, no. The gov't is in bed with the pharmaceutical companies and health insurance vultures to not only make us more sick, but to profit by it. We need to make these insurance companies PAY for our healths (free health care) rather than by profitting by it. Want to see them go belly-up broke.
America is a testing ground for the banksters, health insurance, auto insurance, life insurance, home insurance......add on to this sales taxes, porperty taxes, gasoline taxes, smog fees, registration fees, parking fees, State beach fees, tickets, citations. Its all illegal. A "Ponzi scheme". Yes. The government and its officials are looking out for their own interests and get a free ride while using you as a 40+ work mule. Profiting off the healths of Americans is MORALLY WRONG and CORRUPT.
I can't believe that so many people are protesting Obama's health care reform and the administration is essentially sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "lalalalala" like we all used to do as children when we didn't want to hear what someone was telling us. (Sorry, longest run on sentence in the world)
Im getting sick and fucking tired of these FRAUDS and CROOKS saying that these are staged protests, saying that these opinions are not representative of America..and are Republican! I am a registered Democrat, never voted for a Republican in my life time and never will. I will never vote for another Democrat ever again either! How dare the government and the media use these cowardly fascist tacticts to block the REAL opinion of the people! These are not socialists..they are FASCISTS! WAKE UP!
I am from Kansas and I am ashamed of any Kansas who ever voted for this woman to begin with, she has no respect for us the American people who do not want the govt. messing with our health.
These people (including Kathleen Sucubus) are all frauds. These people behave as though WE THE PEOPLE have no say in our futures. Health and Human Services is in the business of destroying families. Yes. They are Child Protective Service agents who prey on children while the banksters (economists) purposely disrupt OUR national economy so THEY can justify their jobs. I can see right through this. Those people in Washington have no interest in the Constitution. You have to fight them in court.
One of the most serious issues at stake is the idea of eugenics, I'm sorry 'rationing'. The 'state' is going to decide who and who not is worthy of surgery, a heart/ kidney, etc...is someone too old, too weak to deserve care?! I think the Boomers need to get their marching boots back on!!
I love the one redneck who scribbled a protest sign stating something about Obama RX and Kool-Aid, and then they wrote "I'm not thristy"....T...H...R...I...S...T...Y
Wow...that spoke volumes. Bo Duke apparently couldn't spell "thirsty"....for a sign with only about 4 words on it!!! Holy shhhh.... Let's put health care on the back burner and address the public education system first!!!!
The government can't run a lemonade stand. Social Security, Medicare, VA, the Post Office...all failures. pauwelsurfer-you must have a third grade education. You DEFINITELY have no common sense. Why do they call it common sense when it is so uncommon?
You need to GOOGLE healthcare reform and decide if you really want Big government to take control of your health care system. If government cannot balance its budget, win its wars, closed its borders. what then do you suppose this government can do for you?
If my party did something as despicable as what the RNC is doing - I would be mad - where is the real Republican outrage? Have they all become cowards and morons?
And you must be one of the typical RIght Wing sheep who believes in Fox News. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Now that's funny!
I know, I know.... The TRUTH behind those "FAKE" protests has Frazzled the very core of your REPUBLICAN agenda to HALT anyone from listening to a civil discussion on Health Care Reform.
That's okay, the majority of us have found out who's really pulling the strings. BUSTED for the FRAUDS that you Right Wingers are! ;-)
Hello my fellow americans. Right wing extremist groups are paying all these actors to pretend they are upset at big government and wastefull spending. No sane person would be upset at the all knowing congressmen doing what is best for us. We need more government, look at how unruley we have become.Lets join all the big government congressmen in washington in trashing the constitution and mocking the founding fathers.Who really cares about all the americans who have died in the defense of freedom
Seiu and Acorn have an ad on Craig's list where they are offering 15$ per hour to people to disrupt demonstrations against socialised healthcare. So, can only community organisers protest? I have never lived anywhere where community organisers existed. It seems as if they only exist to support Democrats and other liberal progressive groups. That's fairness?
Did any of you know that the president of one of the biggest health insurance companys makes 500 million a year. Big buisness wants health care reform to fail. They are pulling the strings of the middle class neocons. They are leading them like sheep to slaughter... Everyone will benefit from public health care.
Why is it that when ordinary citizens, people dressed well, or not organized by unions or wearing ACORN T-shirts show up to these meetings they are called astroturf, mobs or paid stooges. Me thinks thou protesteth too much, or the pot calling the kettle black. BTW, You can only keep your private insurance as long as you never make any changes. Once you change anything, you lose your private coverage. Please check it out.
Propaganda! She needs to stop talking and listen to us. We don't want public health care and they are not allowing us to meet with them. Of course we have to go wherever they are in order to have a chance to speak up.
I think what you mean is that The People Will Make Their Voices Heard to A Government That Has Not Listened. Our nation has been sold out, too many have been marginalized while elected reps benefit from perks at taxpayers expense and campaign contributions then give it away in earmarks, pork, and outright gangster fashion to corporateers.
Pres Obama failed to keep campaign promises with the first pork-laden bill he signed. Unfortunately, the corruption is very strong and will take a great effort. I think this is a sign that the people are energized to take back the country. An alignment with the Constitution is in order so, for the sake of the USA, the best representatives will be elected and held accountable, not just every so often during campaign time, but throughout their terms.
Their are too many that are egotistical and entrenched believing they rule our nation by usurping responsibilities of the offices they wee elected to hold. They will understand that they only have the perceived ability to act by the power of the people and are in office to represent the people of our nation. Yeh, it's time for a grand realignment!
Those no good TEA BAGGERS are at it again. We heard your voice in the last DAM 8years when your no good for nothing Bush was in the office and he was disgrace. So you bunch of paid off drug baggers will be shut down everywhere you will go to try to disrupt any events. You so called MOBS.
Calib0y707.... are you serious? They protest because thier voice hasnt been heard for quite some time. do you really think teabaggers are all republicans?let alone bush lovers? They are more libertarian than they are republican or democrat. GO read some books or watch some documentarys on the federal reserve. google " freedom to facism" We need a viable 3rd party canidate, trouble is both parties won't include them in any debates, so REAL issues are never raised. just the same ol bickering.
I just returned from a TH meeting today. Supporters of healthcare reform would NOT let us hear what was being said, or ask any questions, because they just kept chanting "yes we can".. yes, they can do what? Bankrupt the country? Congrats, Dems, you did that very well. Now, can you STFU long enough for the rest of us to ask a question or hear what's said? Crawl back into your holes & leave the thinking to the rest of us!
thesuperliberal. i am not a neocon, i am not a republican,nor a democrat. This health care reform proposed is unconstitutional, our constitution was written to limit the scope of government and protect individual rights, this health bill will do the opposite. Where in the constitution does it allow for this? If you say the general welfare clause , you would be well served if you read ANY of our founders description of that clause. Besides it costs too much, it will prolong our recession.
I respect your opinion sensay2. Our basic rights of the constitution are Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. This is a more generalized view than yours of course. It's hard to be happy when your up to your eyes in medical bills and the only job you can get has no health insurance. We need to bolster the American worker to revive our economy. If the Dems plan works it will pay for itself with savings.
This woman is a disaster. She would rather attack the Americans concerned about socialized healthcare than talk about why she supports government takeover of the healthcare system.
They don't give the American public any cedit for thinking for themselves. They want to try to paint everybody that protests as being paid by the republicans, when registered democrats are against the bills as well! This way, they can "ignore" the voice of the people and do as they please. They will discover they do so at the peril of being voted out of office, except of course the appointees, like sebelius, they were never voted into any job, just hand picked by that guy in the white house.
Man I am tried of Republican labeling everything socialist, these use the word wrong first, all political bullshit, I everyone did forget the incompetnce of the last eight years, the connection between Iraq and Al Queda, laughable, the millions of non existing weapons, oh lets not forget the loose regulation of the economy, Yeah go Republicans ( Being Sarcastic )
These Liberal Elitists are so out of touch with the American People that it is ridiculous! If you protest their Socialist Agenda, you are an idiot, in their book. 40 years of brainwashing America through the media and education has come to a head, and led to the election of Obama, and the hubris of these socialist syncophants. Wake up America , before it is too late!
Yes it's "nationally driven" bitch... people across the country don't want this bullshit, socialist government-controlled healthcare so of course they're angry. They should be too.
non-sequitor: just because people have similar arguments against your legislation does not mean that they have been nationally coordinated. What is wrong with these people, Boxer said the same thing. We don't want your healthcare. It is interesting about what was a "acceptable" reception to her: people asking questions, wanting to find out what's GOING to happen. She doesn't want people saying NO. there is no dialogue. NO. - unbelievable.
We the people dont want Obama care. We dont trust a govt that cant run a billion dollar 'cash for clunkers' to run a multitrillion dollar program that handles life and death. Oh and if Obama thinks he can ignore the people who put his ass in the office, maybe we can ignore him when we elect someone else after his only term.
Dem can really whine when people disagree with them. It is easier for them to believe of some masterful plan to organize thousands and thousands of people across the nation to fake anger than to believe that people are reall pissed at their ideas. Well if the members of congress will not listen to us now, then we the people will not listen to them when the ask for our vote in the elections.
Sebelius and other traitors are starting to notice that the revolution against their treasonous rule has begun. Clowns like Sebelius are cancelling "town halls" across the nation, terrified of being called what they are....traitors.
I like to see it put to the vote and see all of America vote on it. It would be a bad day for Dems. Think about it, it's been 24/7 politics since Obama got in, Government is in ever aspect of your life. Every day they blame someone else. It's Rush,it's Reps, it's teabags, it's hate mongers,it's lobbyists, it's rednecks,it's racists,it's Sarah. Nobody here seen the bill.. who here read the bill? These liberials have dirtiest politics in history, lies and deceit with a straight face. Wake up!!!!
hey dumb ass the bill has not even been writen yet. you cant read a bill that has not been writen. they are still trying to put it together. But of course Rush, Reps, those darn teabags, hate mongers, lobbyists, racists and Sarah tell you that nobody is reading the bill. You Repubs are retarded. Do some research ass, you will find that the bill has not even been written, but your party told you otherwise just to get you jined up. Yep thats your party for ya. OBAMA 2012!!!
All the major polls (rasmussen, gallup, ect_ indicate that ignorant minority to be the majority. Older people are even more likely to be against gov. reformed health care. Hint Hint Old people vote more often so your going to see it in the next election for sure.
this bitch is crazy, forget what any politician tells you, find a chat room discussing the language of the health care bill. Pro or con, this bill is fucked up, it needs serious ammendment before ANY of it should be passed.
So In other words these angry Americans mean absolutely nothing to you. Sebelius is nothing more than a career politician growing from the dirty roots of her family political tree. WHAT A SACK!!!!!!!!
the resistance is becomming SELF organized, and you all will be arrested for robbing the treasury, your assets will be seized, and you will be exposed for the crooks that you are. Bank on it!!!!. tj
I wouldn't use the term "bank on it" if I were you. It'll set Boots920 off on another rant about gold prices, and how the Federal Reserve Board has secretly taken over the world, and Ben Bernanke is bugging everybody's telephone.
Stop watching so much TV youve been brainwashed ! # 1 Stop pulling the race card and #2 If you do not think our country is in trouble due to bad government than you belong in a mental ward
It's a sad state in America when some folks want to see the opposite party fail on such an important issue just to make their party seem better. For them it's not about sucess for Americans, it's about sucess for thier own party. How selfish and small minded.
It means 1. She sympathizes with the audience, that this forced government rationed healthcare is a bad idea, 2. She gave an inaccurate rendition of the events - did this government/corporate appendage for the indoctrination of the masses chose to invite a protester on the show? Someone to give a face to the masses of folks this government official is berating and slandering.
Better, or better not, to show politicians surrendering to the popular outcry.
All I hear from republicans:Liberal media! squak squak Bill Ayers! squak squak Birth certificate! squak squak Socialism! squak squak Obama's Waterloo! squak squak I had an affair! squak squak Obama's a racist! squak squak No No No! squack squak I like torture, guns and Jesus! squak squak The surge worked! squak squak The stimulis faild! squak squak Palin is smart, really she is I swear! squak squak Rush told me to! squak squak He said 57 states so he's as dumb as Bush! squak squak
I have no problem listening to both points of view regarding this issue.. I do however have a huge problem when anyone in a position of power encourages behavior that would stand in the way of the American people hearing what others have to say. It kind of makes me wonder why they do not want us to know what is going on...
I like paying extreme rates for the hassle and red tape I go through when i get sick. I like the lack of real competition and that 19 million in the country have no access to health care so they go to the emergency room. I like the lack of prevention in our medical systems. I like the ideas the republicans have- or will when they have one. I can't stand that socialist, Teddy Roosevelt-the first U.S.president to call for universal health care and national health insurance.
RUKiddinMeHuh these dumbwitts don't realize EVERYBODY pays through taxes for the emergency rooms when uninsured ppl get there. I have a couple of friends who were hospitalized at ICU and both had no insurance and the bill accrued to almost 100k.
boots, we're relying on people like you to keep up this birth certificate thing all the way to 2012 - it's a big help in President Obama's re-election campaign! Thank you for your support!
I agree. Where can I send money to that nutty Russian woman with the mail-order law degree from Taft University? Now there's a Constitutional expert if I ever saw one. I think she might even be related to Ayn Rand.
Now you know how the other side felt for the last eight years. I'm a libertarian, so I'm basically in the minority every election. Join the club. The game is rigged. The players are all corrupt. The system is broken.
What did me in was when "they" took out the entire US domestic car market with barely a whimper. There's not enough whiskey to kill the pain. Jaw dropping destruction my liver went on strike but like the trooper I am I'm crossing the picket line. I don't believe you can fix the economic damage of the last 40 years. Follow the US Constitution and the joint would run itself. The founding fathers of cool country were genius. Sad to witness I feel bad for the good honest taxpayers.
You're forgetting one small detail: The US domestic car industry ASKED to be "taken."
Not one of those John Galt wannabees was up there before Congress saying "our business should be allowed to fail because we obviously did a lousy job of running it."
Nope, those guys spent their entire lives badmouthing non-existent "welfare quees" but then thought nothing of putting their hand out to give welfare to a bunch of billionaires.
I know but it still doesn't make the pain any worse. Big car fan here, the domestic car industry is the foundation of the US Economy. You can point here and there why its not there anymore. Doesn't take the pain away good people are out of work too. I 'll never buy another US make car again until its made in the USA.
they asked to be bailed out just like a slave would ask to serve "in" the house instead of being forced to work in the field. Athos, you're a leftist lacky web watching spin manager (LLWWSM) . We're on to you boy. tj
yes just for you, but not for you alone. Yet true to form your kind oscillate between pointed questions and when given an answer you do not wish to deal with you then resort to feckless humor in a true schizophrenic attempt to distract from admitting the fact. The auto industry asked to be bailed out only because to do otherwise would have resulted in a hostile nationalized government take over of the means of manufacturing and production as did Hitler, Stalin, and Chavez. Tyranny take over. tj
You mean what you got now total clusterfuck with a undocumented US citizen or Kenyan National running the joint into the ground. You got to mix it up a bit buddy, you already had the documented "war criminal" now go for the undocumented Kenyan national. Do the same thing all the time and it just gets boring don't you think ? I could be wrong I don't know...you don't want a boring life do ya ?
That's what the long form all about buddy, it proves you were born on US soil and your parents are US citizens.
"Natural Born", I 'm sure Obama's Mom and Dad were US citizens. The hamster US government checks into to these things. Like weapons of mass destruction that went off with out a hitch.
Natural Born does not require your parents to be US citizens, it just requires you to be born on US soil. So far, all the evidence shows that Obama was born in the US. It's time to drop this dead end argument.
2000 tons of gas artillery shells were found in Iraq. I guess the Liberal media left that out. The 40 years of brainwashing by the Liberal Media and the NEA though our schools have definetaly took their toll. You guys voted for change and you sure got it! The socialist party of america!
Its like mystery meat "Wednesday" you don't know what ya got until Thurday morning after morning coffee. It could come out in a big turd or just all runny and slimy. You just hope you don't have to multi flush while its going on. The fan can't keep up, wee bit smelly regardless.
I,m sorry, but this dreadful unChristian behaviour from people who think that they are Christians is so shocking that the rest of the world is watching stunned. We care for everybody here who needs medical care, we dont ask about 'illegal' nonsense or health funds or how big is your bank acount etc.Now we are really seeing what USA is like, we suspected it but NOW we know.I wonder if Jesus would turn away a sick person for no insurance or money?Didnt he upturn the money tables in the temple?God.
Awareable 2 years ago
thanks for your reply back on my page. the thing people in this country don't realize is that government has been the problem (not the solution) with healthcare in this country for the last 45 years. Democrats and Republicans alike make a TON of money off the healthcare system and big pharmaceutical companies. But nobody wants to discuss that. They just want to yell or force there views(which are usually wrong on both sides) WAKE UP AMERICA! The 2 party system is actually a 1 party system.
wiley666 2 years ago 2
I agree. No matter what party, the dollar has become God. As long as "we the people" allow ourselves to be manipulated for profit, nothing will change. I do agree that Gov has been the problem in the past, but I also believe that our only real hope of changing the curcumstances now is to spread as much accurate information as possible. This is an info war.
youknowstevo 2 years ago
Very well put, it seems the contradiction is so obvious but these people are led to believe they're right. It really scares me when the whole premise of Jesus's message is trampled by the very people that use religion as a political motivator. It brings up questions of who or what is truly behind their rage.
youknowstevo 2 years ago
Wait a minute, I thought Obama was Jesus.
se7entyse7en77 2 years ago
What health reform has to do with Religion?
1. Religious believe that if you die its cause God decided it.
2. If you recover from a serious illness then its because God made a miracle.
This health reform its all about real life stuff not a nice fantasy that keeps you going. Keep it to your self.
Ramiromasters 2 years ago
This reaction to the possibility of you guys getting a health system that is fair, equal and Christian is shocking.Look at the so called 'socialist' countries with their systems, Canada etc. You deserve your appalling system with all these outbursts I was shocked when I was in USA and had to see a doctor. It cost me $220 for 10 mins!! It would be nothing or $20 here. Antibiotics $15 as against your $90!! And you WANT this nightmare? Reds under the beds is 1950's crap. USA is SO backward.
Awareable 2 years ago
the thing everybody in this country seems to forget is WHY healthcare costs are so high. The reason is federal and state regulations imposed by the federal govt. Did you know we are not allowed to go outside our state to shop for for health insurance? And that only 2% of the healthcare system in the U.S. is actually "free market"? I agree the morons at these meetings should come armed with a few more facts about the healthcare system in this country. But the govt. is too involved in the 1st plce
wiley666 2 years ago
government knows exactly what they are doing -- screwing Americans ...
BakersBoyz 2 years ago
Add up all your financial expenditures....
How much goes to the Gov.?,
How much goes to Wall mart, rent(or mortgage), Utility Co., Insurance Co., Loan payments, etc.
I don't know about you, but the vast majority of my money goes to private industry company profits. Not public welfare. If we could, I'd say do away with gov all together and then people would see how much they NEED it.
youknowstevo 2 years ago
@youknowstevo What the hell are you talking about? More than 50% of my income goes to the government in one way or another. Income (both state and federal), Property tax, Sales tax, and a myriad of other taxes that 500 characters won't cover. I think you need to do a little better accounting of where your money goes my friend.
progressiveruination 1 year ago
"free market" gives profiteers the freedom. Not us.
youknowstevo 2 years ago
Cant believe you people. Do you think France, England and Australia are 'communist' countries? We enjoy a wonderful health system, so stress free from enormous bill and we pay only 1.6% health levy. You guys pay 6% and get nothing. CONTRARY to the usual scare mongering we do not have to wait for life saving treatment which we get NO questions asked.You have no exp of living in this sort of freedom, so you cant pass a criticism on it. Our system doesnt kill or abandon people bcause of no money.
Awareable 2 years ago
In related news, the oil companies are already planning astroturf rallies against the climate bill. Some people just like to be used.
PerryLogan 2 years ago
Sock puppets, political windsocks, window dressing, smoke and mirrors..........it is awesome that people are wakening up to the monsters that you really are. Its taken some time to wake up, but here it is and here we are..............
7514328 2 years ago
And the US pays 23% of the UN's operating costs each year. Our latest fee to the UN (plus interest) was $906 million. A handsome fee (bribe) seeing how they do nothing, but conspire to usurp our constitution and wills of the people. Silly rabbits. I got you figured out. You and your profit racketeering schemes have hurt and damaged people for far to long. Now you want to play hide and seek with fundamental health care for americans. Shame, shame, shame.....financial terrorism is who you are.
7514328 2 years ago
Kathleen Sucubus works for Health & Human Services. That is, she is a conspirator for the disruption of families and the removal of children. Joe Biden was the first to provide funding for CPS. Bill Clinton signed onto the UN's rights of the Child which grants more rights of our children to the states. Barbara Boxer is pushing to have it Ratified. Am I seeing a pattern here.....?
7514328 2 years ago
The same gov't that promotes immigration is the same gov't that profits by it in the form of insurances, taxes and fees. Example: 30,000+ americans are fatalities each year in the US. Many are killed each day by illegal immigrants. Liabilities, funerals, lawsuits, settlements generates money for "their" national economy. Yes. They are killing us and profiting by it. Too busy incarcerating individuals who have damaged their economic schemes. Its an elaborate plan by which they profit.
7514328 2 years ago
I will buy you a beer while laughing all the way. Even Rahm Emanuel looks like Josef Goebbels. France, Germany and Canada (as well as other countries) have a good social health care system. Its a right. But, no. The gov't is in bed with the pharmaceutical companies and health insurance vultures to not only make us more sick, but to profit by it. We need to make these insurance companies PAY for our healths (free health care) rather than by profitting by it. Want to see them go belly-up broke.
7514328 2 years ago
America is a testing ground for the banksters, health insurance, auto insurance, life insurance, home insurance......add on to this sales taxes, porperty taxes, gasoline taxes, smog fees, registration fees, parking fees, State beach fees, tickets, citations. Its all illegal. A "Ponzi scheme". Yes. The government and its officials are looking out for their own interests and get a free ride while using you as a 40+ work mule. Profiting off the healths of Americans is MORALLY WRONG and CORRUPT.
7514328 2 years ago
I can't believe that so many people are protesting Obama's health care reform and the administration is essentially sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "lalalalala" like we all used to do as children when we didn't want to hear what someone was telling us. (Sorry, longest run on sentence in the world)
carrieyw 2 years ago
Blah blah blah blah...
deedub87 2 years ago
Is this woman just filling time, all she did was talk in circles and didn't say anything.
wendyglowworm 2 years ago 2
Im getting sick and fucking tired of these FRAUDS and CROOKS saying that these are staged protests, saying that these opinions are not representative of America..and are Republican! I am a registered Democrat, never voted for a Republican in my life time and never will. I will never vote for another Democrat ever again either! How dare the government and the media use these cowardly fascist tacticts to block the REAL opinion of the people! These are not socialists..they are FASCISTS! WAKE UP!
jaysonbuckley 2 years ago 2
I am from Kansas and I am ashamed of any Kansas who ever voted for this woman to begin with, she has no respect for us the American people who do not want the govt. messing with our health.
MrBullfrog9876 2 years ago
this lady is a rotten liar.
MadSmokerBBQ 2 years ago
These people (including Kathleen Sucubus) are all frauds. These people behave as though WE THE PEOPLE have no say in our futures. Health and Human Services is in the business of destroying families. Yes. They are Child Protective Service agents who prey on children while the banksters (economists) purposely disrupt OUR national economy so THEY can justify their jobs. I can see right through this. Those people in Washington have no interest in the Constitution. You have to fight them in court.
7514328 2 years ago 2
One of the most serious issues at stake is the idea of eugenics, I'm sorry 'rationing'. The 'state' is going to decide who and who not is worthy of surgery, a heart/ kidney, etc...is someone too old, too weak to deserve care?! I think the Boomers need to get their marching boots back on!!
cgscones 2 years ago 2
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I love the one redneck who scribbled a protest sign stating something about Obama RX and Kool-Aid, and then they wrote "I'm not thristy"....T...H...R...I...S...T...Y
Wow...that spoke volumes. Bo Duke apparently couldn't spell "thirsty"....for a sign with only about 4 words on it!!! Holy shhhh.... Let's put health care on the back burner and address the public education system first!!!!
praizjesus 2 years ago
This Bitch is Retarded....
m3RacerBitch 2 years ago
The government can't run a lemonade stand. Social Security, Medicare, VA, the Post Office...all failures. pauwelsurfer-you must have a third grade education. You DEFINITELY have no common sense. Why do they call it common sense when it is so uncommon?
pakman1145 2 years ago
You need to GOOGLE healthcare reform and decide if you really want Big government to take control of your health care system. If government cannot balance its budget, win its wars, closed its borders. what then do you suppose this government can do for you?
macdogq 2 years ago
Very good point Macdogq.
ThomasJS1 2 years ago
If my party did something as despicable as what the RNC is doing - I would be mad - where is the real Republican outrage? Have they all become cowards and morons?
KJamesB 2 years ago
liar nwo whore
1kel40b 2 years ago
down with the two party . king sean connery 4 life
2hunt 2 years ago
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Take a look at MSNBC'S Rachel Maddows You tube Video!
Rachel Maddow Exposes "FAKE" Protesters at Health Care Town Halls.
And see for yourself who is responsible for promoting and encouraging these DEVISIVE and Anger Driven RIght Wing MOBS!
pauwelasurfer 2 years ago
hahahaaha you must be joking. main stream media is a joke. if you believe anything those puppets say then you are a fool. turn your tv off
1kel40b 2 years ago
And you must be one of the typical RIght Wing sheep who believes in Fox News. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Now that's funny!
I know, I know.... The TRUTH behind those "FAKE" protests has Frazzled the very core of your REPUBLICAN agenda to HALT anyone from listening to a civil discussion on Health Care Reform.
That's okay, the majority of us have found out who's really pulling the strings. BUSTED for the FRAUDS that you Right Wingers are! ;-)
pauwelasurfer 2 years ago
wrong again
1kel40b 2 years ago
BWAHAHAHAHA! You're reply says it all! You Right Wingers got BUSTED! BWAHAHAHAHA!
pauwelasurfer 2 years ago
only a fool would fall for the left versus right paradigm. you must be a fool
1kel40b 2 years ago
BUSTED! ;-)
Take a look at Rachel Maddows Youtube video:
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow Exposes Corporate Backed "Fake" Protesters At Health Care Town Halls - 08/05/09
pauwelasurfer 2 years ago
mian stream media is a joke. its all lies and propaganda. fox cnn msnbc are all bullshit artists. turn your tv off. its good at brainwashing people
1kel40b 2 years ago 2
All that because you prefer to get your news from youtube? BWHAHAHAHA Dude!!!
pauwelasurfer 2 years ago
wow you are completely brainwashed
1kel40b 2 years ago
And wow, you are totally in DENIAL! ;-) BWAHAHAHHAHA
pauwelasurfer 2 years ago
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WilliamandSteph 2 years ago
Hello my fellow americans. Right wing extremist groups are paying all these actors to pretend they are upset at big government and wastefull spending. No sane person would be upset at the all knowing congressmen doing what is best for us. We need more government, look at how unruley we have become.Lets join all the big government congressmen in washington in trashing the constitution and mocking the founding fathers.Who really cares about all the americans who have died in the defense of freedom
sensay2 2 years ago
Seiu and Acorn have an ad on Craig's list where they are offering 15$ per hour to people to disrupt demonstrations against socialised healthcare. So, can only community organisers protest? I have never lived anywhere where community organisers existed. It seems as if they only exist to support Democrats and other liberal progressive groups. That's fairness?
ro307805 2 years ago
You are the perfect reason why I hate you fuckin' liberals!
chargers2566 2 years ago
Yes they did they ARE Americans finally speaking up. WE are not your Sheep!
majormauser 2 years ago
this cunbt needs to shut the fuck up!
chargers2566 2 years ago
Did any of you know that the president of one of the biggest health insurance companys makes 500 million a year. Big buisness wants health care reform to fail. They are pulling the strings of the middle class neocons. They are leading them like sheep to slaughter... Everyone will benefit from public health care.
TheSuperLiberal 2 years ago
Why is it that when ordinary citizens, people dressed well, or not organized by unions or wearing ACORN T-shirts show up to these meetings they are called astroturf, mobs or paid stooges. Me thinks thou protesteth too much, or the pot calling the kettle black. BTW, You can only keep your private insurance as long as you never make any changes. Once you change anything, you lose your private coverage. Please check it out.
onepeopleunited 2 years ago
Over 70% of people wanted out of Iraq, were against the bailouts and against the stimulus. What do we have to do to be heard?!
And, I wonder if the so-called right wing community organizers will get government assitance like ACORN does? LOL
OneTokeOver 2 years ago
Propaganda! She needs to stop talking and listen to us. We don't want public health care and they are not allowing us to meet with them. Of course we have to go wherever they are in order to have a chance to speak up.
courtkennedy 2 years ago
I think what you mean is that The People Will Make Their Voices Heard to A Government That Has Not Listened. Our nation has been sold out, too many have been marginalized while elected reps benefit from perks at taxpayers expense and campaign contributions then give it away in earmarks, pork, and outright gangster fashion to corporateers.
franknblunt 2 years ago
Pres Obama failed to keep campaign promises with the first pork-laden bill he signed. Unfortunately, the corruption is very strong and will take a great effort. I think this is a sign that the people are energized to take back the country. An alignment with the Constitution is in order so, for the sake of the USA, the best representatives will be elected and held accountable, not just every so often during campaign time, but throughout their terms.
franknblunt 2 years ago
Their are too many that are egotistical and entrenched believing they rule our nation by usurping responsibilities of the offices they wee elected to hold. They will understand that they only have the perceived ability to act by the power of the people and are in office to represent the people of our nation. Yeh, it's time for a grand realignment!
franknblunt 2 years ago
The People are tired of talking to a government that refuses to listen.
TheOneAndOnlyKidknot 2 years ago
Our country was bankrupt under Bush's first term with your wars and The biggiest socalist give a way to AIG by Bush himself.
Calib0y707 2 years ago
Those no good TEA BAGGERS are at it again. We heard your voice in the last DAM 8years when your no good for nothing Bush was in the office and he was disgrace. So you bunch of paid off drug baggers will be shut down everywhere you will go to try to disrupt any events. You so called MOBS.
Calib0y707 2 years ago
Calib0y707.... are you serious? They protest because thier voice hasnt been heard for quite some time. do you really think teabaggers are all republicans?let alone bush lovers? They are more libertarian than they are republican or democrat. GO read some books or watch some documentarys on the federal reserve. google " freedom to facism" We need a viable 3rd party canidate, trouble is both parties won't include them in any debates, so REAL issues are never raised. just the same ol bickering.
sensay2 2 years ago
I just returned from a TH meeting today. Supporters of healthcare reform would NOT let us hear what was being said, or ask any questions, because they just kept chanting "yes we can".. yes, they can do what? Bankrupt the country? Congrats, Dems, you did that very well. Now, can you STFU long enough for the rest of us to ask a question or hear what's said? Crawl back into your holes & leave the thinking to the rest of us!
EnglishOnly1 2 years ago
Why are are these neocon puppets afraid of change? The party of NO is full of selfish and uneducated fools.
TheSuperLiberal 2 years ago
thesuperliberal. i am not a neocon, i am not a republican,nor a democrat. This health care reform proposed is unconstitutional, our constitution was written to limit the scope of government and protect individual rights, this health bill will do the opposite. Where in the constitution does it allow for this? If you say the general welfare clause , you would be well served if you read ANY of our founders description of that clause. Besides it costs too much, it will prolong our recession.
sensay2 2 years ago
I respect your opinion sensay2. Our basic rights of the constitution are Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. This is a more generalized view than yours of course. It's hard to be happy when your up to your eyes in medical bills and the only job you can get has no health insurance. We need to bolster the American worker to revive our economy. If the Dems plan works it will pay for itself with savings.
TheSuperLiberal 2 years ago
This woman is a disaster. She would rather attack the Americans concerned about socialized healthcare than talk about why she supports government takeover of the healthcare system.
dlwke2 2 years ago
whats there to debate??? this bill is shit!! i know because i read it!!!she is an idiot anyway
svuhelter7 2 years ago
I thought the people would love eugenics! Who wants to die first to save money?
therealside 2 years ago
0bama and the libs are only interested in disrupting the US and turning it into a banana republic.
donottake 2 years ago
They don't give the American public any cedit for thinking for themselves. They want to try to paint everybody that protests as being paid by the republicans, when registered democrats are against the bills as well! This way, they can "ignore" the voice of the people and do as they please. They will discover they do so at the peril of being voted out of office, except of course the appointees, like sebelius, they were never voted into any job, just hand picked by that guy in the white house.
Tewkes2968 2 years ago
Glad she's outta KS
magpie4321 2 years ago
Who are you going to believe?
A poised intelligent woman, or a screaming mob?
Richardgwm 2 years ago
The citizens, before I trust a politician or beauracrat!
USAPatriot1966 2 years ago
Richardgwm, The screaming mob by a mile!
StinkFingerr 2 years ago
Man I am tried of Republican labeling everything socialist, these use the word wrong first, all political bullshit, I everyone did forget the incompetnce of the last eight years, the connection between Iraq and Al Queda, laughable, the millions of non existing weapons, oh lets not forget the loose regulation of the economy, Yeah go Republicans ( Being Sarcastic )
TheSilversultan 2 years ago 2
Iraq didn't have any kind of those weapons dumass, where you got your info, I think your brainwashed by the right wings LOL, go watch fox loser,
TheSilversultan 2 years ago
3rd Infantry division found the chemical artillery shells in 2004. What, the daily kos didn't report on this?
ro307805 2 years ago
These Liberal Elitists are so out of touch with the American People that it is ridiculous! If you protest their Socialist Agenda, you are an idiot, in their book. 40 years of brainwashing America through the media and education has come to a head, and led to the election of Obama, and the hubris of these socialist syncophants. Wake up America , before it is too late!
ro307805 2 years ago
If Obama keeps this up Palin will be your next president of the united states. Shutters at that thought!
tswwrestling 2 years ago 3
bleh a nightmare of the opposite sort.....
budda10000 2 years ago
The protesters aren't organized yet, but they will be.
ibringasword 2 years ago
Congrats Americans, you're gonna f**k this up! Keep the rich at the top and let your country rot from the inside out.
punksbbvds 2 years ago
Yes it's "nationally driven" bitch... people across the country don't want this bullshit, socialist government-controlled healthcare so of course they're angry. They should be too.
jwphantom 2 years ago
non-sequitor: just because people have similar arguments against your legislation does not mean that they have been nationally coordinated. What is wrong with these people, Boxer said the same thing. We don't want your healthcare. It is interesting about what was a "acceptable" reception to her: people asking questions, wanting to find out what's GOING to happen. She doesn't want people saying NO. there is no dialogue. NO. - unbelievable.
wigglethemiddle 2 years ago
You're right - your argument is non-sequitor. Good example.
-Qes
QuasiEvilScott 2 years ago
We the people dont want Obama care. We dont trust a govt that cant run a billion dollar 'cash for clunkers' to run a multitrillion dollar program that handles life and death. Oh and if Obama thinks he can ignore the people who put his ass in the office, maybe we can ignore him when we elect someone else after his only term.
joskemom 2 years ago
Dem can really whine when people disagree with them. It is easier for them to believe of some masterful plan to organize thousands and thousands of people across the nation to fake anger than to believe that people are reall pissed at their ideas. Well if the members of congress will not listen to us now, then we the people will not listen to them when the ask for our vote in the elections.
joskemom 2 years ago
Sebelius and other traitors are starting to notice that the revolution against their treasonous rule has begun. Clowns like Sebelius are cancelling "town halls" across the nation, terrified of being called what they are....traitors.
CharlesALindbergh 2 years ago
Nationally driven campaign? time to LISTEN to your nation?????
libertatem997 2 years ago
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The so-called "Brooks Brothers Brownshirts" should leave their swastikas at home.
4teepee 2 years ago
I like to see it put to the vote and see all of America vote on it. It would be a bad day for Dems. Think about it, it's been 24/7 politics since Obama got in, Government is in ever aspect of your life. Every day they blame someone else. It's Rush,it's Reps, it's teabags, it's hate mongers,it's lobbyists, it's rednecks,it's racists,it's Sarah. Nobody here seen the bill.. who here read the bill? These liberials have dirtiest politics in history, lies and deceit with a straight face. Wake up!!!!
Cosmx 2 years ago
hey dumb ass the bill has not even been writen yet. you cant read a bill that has not been writen. they are still trying to put it together. But of course Rush, Reps, those darn teabags, hate mongers, lobbyists, racists and Sarah tell you that nobody is reading the bill. You Repubs are retarded. Do some research ass, you will find that the bill has not even been written, but your party told you otherwise just to get you jined up. Yep thats your party for ya. OBAMA 2012!!!
darkchocosinger 2 years ago
Obama is going to be a one term President, he is presiding over and perpetuating a long depression.
You can take that to the bank, you with that Obamonopoly funny money.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Taxation Without Representation.
Treason.
Tyranny.
vashguud 2 years ago
It's not without representation.
Just not the representation you voted for.
Sorry, but you'll have to suck it up and hope for the best next election.
Deweydecible 2 years ago
YOUR A DUMBASS
darkchocosinger 2 years ago
Typical lying DC Mafia scumbag trying to minimize Americans who call her on it and speak truth to power.
Govtflu 2 years ago
Just because some people are the loudest/most ignorant/most annoying does not make them a majority, or indeed, much to be concerned over.
Healthcare needs to happen - let the paranoids scream and run around about how the sky is falling down. I want insurance, damn it.
-Qes
QuasiEvilScott 2 years ago 4
All the major polls (rasmussen, gallup, ect_ indicate that ignorant minority to be the majority. Older people are even more likely to be against gov. reformed health care. Hint Hint Old people vote more often so your going to see it in the next election for sure.
budda10000 2 years ago
this bitch is crazy, forget what any politician tells you, find a chat room discussing the language of the health care bill. Pro or con, this bill is fucked up, it needs serious ammendment before ANY of it should be passed.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
Wow really??? Jeez I actually thought millions of Americans really wanted to keep bending over for the insurance companies.
lamouchemorte 2 years ago
No dialogue, just hate. Fucking idiots,
carrierexchange 2 years ago
Who is she kidding?
realityshowtime 2 years ago
From the looks of things, you apparently have to be white to be in the Brooks Brothers Brownshirts.
4teepee 2 years ago
The so-called "Brooks Brothers Brownshirts" are organized by lobbyists for the health insurance industry.
4teepee 2 years ago
So In other words these angry Americans mean absolutely nothing to you. Sebelius is nothing more than a career politician growing from the dirty roots of her family political tree. WHAT A SACK!!!!!!!!
forrest1261 2 years ago
Come on dude, just say it, The Right-Wing has organized these small groups to act as large majorities. These republicans are sly little bitches.
dralavant 2 years ago 3
bout time the conservs got a group to 'cause a ruckus'! gettin on board with acorn and the likes.....
RideMX817 2 years ago
the resistance is becomming SELF organized, and you all will be arrested for robbing the treasury, your assets will be seized, and you will be exposed for the crooks that you are. Bank on it!!!!. tj
tj5555555 2 years ago
I wouldn't use the term "bank on it" if I were you. It'll set Boots920 off on another rant about gold prices, and how the Federal Reserve Board has secretly taken over the world, and Ben Bernanke is bugging everybody's telephone.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
I like that the Dems are jumping right on this topic, not wasting time, not letting the insurance industry parasites get away with their deceit.
SubmarinerAndroid 2 years ago
whats clear is people are fed up with a Gov that does not represent the people.
bonzaibb12 2 years ago
You mean a government led by a black man. Oh no, his skin color is different! He doesn't represent us!
p00lman 2 years ago
Stop watching so much TV youve been brainwashed ! # 1 Stop pulling the race card and #2 If you do not think our country is in trouble due to bad government than you belong in a mental ward
bonzaibb12 2 years ago
Yes, maybe I should listen to what a random nobody on a youtube comment page tells me instead.
And for you information, I mostly watch Fox.
p00lman 2 years ago
There's no question the country's in trouble because of bad government.
It does not follow, however, that government is the problem. Just that BAD government is the problem.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
Fuck 'em up Sebelius! No mercy! It's time to lay waste to these Replubtards!
FoShizzle951 2 years ago
Why can't these mobs be tossed the fuck out so normal people can ask questions with civility?
ubtri 2 years ago 2
It's a sad state in America when some folks want to see the opposite party fail on such an important issue just to make their party seem better. For them it's not about sucess for Americans, it's about sucess for thier own party. How selfish and small minded.
zidmt 2 years ago 6
you said it!
ubtri 2 years ago
Actually, that would be a step up for most of these people.
I think a lot of this is just pure racism. They don't even care about the success of the other party - they just don't want a black man in office.
p00lman 2 years ago
Political Schadenfreude is all it is.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
The nutjobs are just noisier than rational folk. That's really all it is.
AtheistOnTheEdge 2 years ago
It's not just that.
When liberals go to extreme measures, people just get annoyed and pissed off.
When conservatives go to extreme measures, people get killed.
p00lman 2 years ago 6
She's right. There are people out there who want to derail any and all policies put forward by the newly elected administration.
I'll be kind and call them misguided.
If I wasn't being kind I'd call them obstructionist, ill informed and quite frankly, stupid.
If you dogmatically resist any and all dialogue you sacrifice credibility.
Shouting only substantiates the emptiness of the message.
wmg111 2 years ago
she didn't mention how she got scared and quickly disowned responsibility "I've never been in the Senate, I'm just a governor"
lrn2wlk4life 2 years ago
"she didn't mention how she got scared" What does that prove? You should know about protection.
AccidentalDem 2 years ago
It means 1. She sympathizes with the audience, that this forced government rationed healthcare is a bad idea, 2. She gave an inaccurate rendition of the events - did this government/corporate appendage for the indoctrination of the masses chose to invite a protester on the show? Someone to give a face to the masses of folks this government official is berating and slandering.
Better, or better not, to show politicians surrendering to the popular outcry.
lrn2wlk4life 2 years ago
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All I hear from republicans:Liberal media! squak squak Bill Ayers! squak squak Birth certificate! squak squak Socialism! squak squak Obama's Waterloo! squak squak I had an affair! squak squak Obama's a racist! squak squak No No No! squack squak I like torture, guns and Jesus! squak squak The surge worked! squak squak The stimulis faild! squak squak Palin is smart, really she is I swear! squak squak Rush told me to! squak squak He said 57 states so he's as dumb as Bush! squak squak
IndiMusicLover 2 years ago
I have no problem listening to both points of view regarding this issue.. I do however have a huge problem when anyone in a position of power encourages behavior that would stand in the way of the American people hearing what others have to say. It kind of makes me wonder why they do not want us to know what is going on...
Smartassawhip 2 years ago 2
I like paying extreme rates for the hassle and red tape I go through when i get sick. I like the lack of real competition and that 19 million in the country have no access to health care so they go to the emergency room. I like the lack of prevention in our medical systems. I like the ideas the republicans have- or will when they have one. I can't stand that socialist, Teddy Roosevelt-the first U.S.president to call for universal health care and national health insurance.
RUKiddinMeHuh 2 years ago 10
Now thats something worth fighting for!
zndprophet 2 years ago
You don't have to believe Republicans when they say they have a "better plan to reform healthcare."
They controlled Congress for 12 years, as well as Congress AND the Executive Branch for six, and did NOTHING to reform healthcare.
If they couldn't or wouldn't do anything in all that time, it's unlikely they can if their noise machine manages to get them back in power in 2010.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 2
RUKiddinMeHuh these dumbwitts don't realize EVERYBODY pays through taxes for the emergency rooms when uninsured ppl get there. I have a couple of friends who were hospitalized at ICU and both had no insurance and the bill accrued to almost 100k.
classicallady 2 years ago
where was this outrage when Bush was in office, or when clinton was in office. Oh wait... they wont black!!!
hyperbrain20 2 years ago 4
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"they wont black!!!"?
careful, hyperbrain, your lack of a brain is showing
integral 2 years ago
LOL. good one.
hyperbrain20 2 years ago
Eugenics anyone? Georgia Guidestones! Please just check it out.
scottthrees 2 years ago
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Not enough are awake or if they're awake don't care.
Taxpayers deserve everything coming down the pipe !!!
boots920 2 years ago
Yes, because only you have the secret knowledge of everything that's true in the world.
p00lman 2 years ago
What do you mean ? Gee buddy don't shoot the messenger.
boots920 2 years ago
And whose message are you sending?
p00lman 2 years ago
Obama's message of Change and Transparency !
Hope !
Ocra's Message of "He's the one" get with the program, where have ya been !
boots920 2 years ago
So now that you've given up that bullshit about "international law," you've moved onto a new witch hunt. Bravo.
p00lman 2 years ago
You mean citizenship law where the hamster taxpayers have to show their long form to man on demand.
73 million Americans "minority", don't worry about it !!!
Gee gun sales are up ? I wonder why ?
boots920 2 years ago
Guns sales go up every time a Democrat is elected president.
mrbhave 2 years ago 5
I know but this time you have a "undocumented" Kenyan National Democrat running the country into the ground.
The howdy doody show continues...I never could have thought up that scenario if I tried.
boots920 2 years ago
boots, we're relying on people like you to keep up this birth certificate thing all the way to 2012 - it's a big help in President Obama's re-election campaign! Thank you for your support!
TheRamenAvenger 2 years ago 3
I agree. Where can I send money to that nutty Russian woman with the mail-order law degree from Taft University? Now there's a Constitutional expert if I ever saw one. I think she might even be related to Ayn Rand.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 2
Now you know how the other side felt for the last eight years. I'm a libertarian, so I'm basically in the minority every election. Join the club. The game is rigged. The players are all corrupt. The system is broken.
mrbhave 2 years ago
What did me in was when "they" took out the entire US domestic car market with barely a whimper. There's not enough whiskey to kill the pain. Jaw dropping destruction my liver went on strike but like the trooper I am I'm crossing the picket line. I don't believe you can fix the economic damage of the last 40 years. Follow the US Constitution and the joint would run itself. The founding fathers of cool country were genius. Sad to witness I feel bad for the good honest taxpayers.
boots920 2 years ago
You're forgetting one small detail: The US domestic car industry ASKED to be "taken."
Not one of those John Galt wannabees was up there before Congress saying "our business should be allowed to fail because we obviously did a lousy job of running it."
Nope, those guys spent their entire lives badmouthing non-existent "welfare quees" but then thought nothing of putting their hand out to give welfare to a bunch of billionaires.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
I know but it still doesn't make the pain any worse. Big car fan here, the domestic car industry is the foundation of the US Economy. You can point here and there why its not there anymore. Doesn't take the pain away good people are out of work too. I 'll never buy another US make car again until its made in the USA.
boots920 2 years ago
they asked to be bailed out just like a slave would ask to serve "in" the house instead of being forced to work in the field. Athos, you're a leftist lacky web watching spin manager (LLWWSM) . We're on to you boy. tj
tj5555555 2 years ago
Please tell me you made that acronym JUST for me? THEN I'll know I've really arrived. :)
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
No fair! I want to be a LLWWSM too! :(
TheRamenAvenger 2 years ago
Oh, you can be *A* LLWWSM, but I am *THE* LLWWSM. The definite article, as it were.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
lol!
TheRamenAvenger 2 years ago
yes just for you, but not for you alone. Yet true to form your kind oscillate between pointed questions and when given an answer you do not wish to deal with you then resort to feckless humor in a true schizophrenic attempt to distract from admitting the fact. The auto industry asked to be bailed out only because to do otherwise would have resulted in a hostile nationalized government take over of the means of manufacturing and production as did Hitler, Stalin, and Chavez. Tyranny take over. tj
tj5555555 2 years ago
Also, all of their overseas competition were already receiving government aid during the downturn, so the US was at a disadvantage.
jaimymoore 2 years ago
Follow the US constitution with no government and you have chaos, or three big companies running the country.
That's why the constitution makes provisions for the government.
p00lman 2 years ago
You mean what you got now total clusterfuck with a undocumented US citizen or Kenyan National running the joint into the ground. You got to mix it up a bit buddy, you already had the documented "war criminal" now go for the undocumented Kenyan national. Do the same thing all the time and it just gets boring don't you think ? I could be wrong I don't know...you don't want a boring life do ya ?
boots920 2 years ago
If you've got proof that Obama is Kenyan, show the documentation.
Otherwise, shut up and be American. "Innocent until proven guilty."
p00lman 2 years ago
That's what the long form all about buddy, it proves you were born on US soil and your parents are US citizens.
"Natural Born", I 'm sure Obama's Mom and Dad were US citizens. The hamster US government checks into to these things. Like weapons of mass destruction that went off with out a hitch.
boots920 2 years ago
Natural Born does not require your parents to be US citizens, it just requires you to be born on US soil. So far, all the evidence shows that Obama was born in the US. It's time to drop this dead end argument.
UltraSWG 2 years ago 2
You're not making any sense again.
p00lman 2 years ago
2000 tons of gas artillery shells were found in Iraq. I guess the Liberal media left that out. The 40 years of brainwashing by the Liberal Media and the NEA though our schools have definetaly took their toll. You guys voted for change and you sure got it! The socialist party of america!
ro307805 2 years ago
No such thing was ever found. I don't know where your getting these "facts" but your clearly brainwashed by the fascist right.
str33twarrior22 2 years ago
3rd Infantry division found the Shells in 2004. It was widely reported by legitimate media.
ro307805 2 years ago
Are you sure he's not Indonesia? Or Russian? Or how about Atlantean? Maybe he's a zombie. Or a Martian. Is he even from our dimension?
And so the witch hunt continues.
p00lman 2 years ago
No just "undocumented"
Its like mystery meat "Wednesday" you don't know what ya got until Thurday morning after morning coffee. It could come out in a big turd or just all runny and slimy. You just hope you don't have to multi flush while its going on. The fan can't keep up, wee bit smelly regardless.
boots920 2 years ago
Nice, you just compared Obama to a turd. You're all class.
Once again, show me proof that he's guilty, otherwise he's innocent.
p00lman 2 years ago