Aikido - Randori-no-kata 1 - 17 - London Aikido Dojo

[6462nightmare]

if they're both black belts, why aren't they wearing their hakama's

[LoLxF]

For me Technique Number 7, 11, 12, 16 and 17 are most useful. I'm only an Yellow Belt so I don't know what I'm talking about right?

[LoLxF]

lol. I've only started half a year ago and I'm a Yellow Belt(my next grading is next week so hopefully I'll get that Orange) and I sure can do better break falls.. I'm not a professional so I'm going to say that it was ok :)

[hossein1326]

FightingFitnessUK, The # 2 is going above the Uke's arm and # 3 going under the Uke's arm. watch it again and pay attention to the Tori's left arm when he does the techinque. Actually they are the same technique but one is driven from another

[vaffevo]

@itachi123100 Against a knife most of these techniques are up to too dangerous. Often, before you e.g. get the opponent down, he has hit or so you with the knife. And many of the techniques evade to the "wrong" side as the knife later goes over one's own stomach.

[FightingFitnessUK]

There is something wrong with this Kata. Technique no 2 (Aigame-ate) is either performed incorrectly or technique 3 (Gyakugamae-ate) is performed twice as they appear almost identical.  In Aigame-ate the atemi is delivered under the controlled arm after balance displacement has been achieved. Not underneath as portrayed here.

[wishnxg]

the blond guy is falling on purpose. how is that practical when the first response a person unfamiliar with the technique is to stand his ground and quickly find a way to hurt you?

[T0mm3n]

Its a demonstration, breaking limbs is not a good way to show basic technique

[yangSaiBattoX1]

i know this comment of yours is old. but it is the same as in any martial art, we learn to teach our selves in a way that allows for one to train and learn what needs to be learned. if he were to resist yes the technique does change but it becomes faster even more exaggerated and thus the intensity is multiplied. your comment comes from some one who has never had shoman-ate(the first technique in the video)or gyakugamae-ate(the third tech.) done to them at full speed.

[CheetaRevised]

@wishnxg Your right its not practical. But their not trying to be practical. They are trying to practice techniques. Real Randori is fast action you can't get caught in thinking about your techniques, the way to not need to think about a technique to practice it until it becomes reflex.

[Shonaripa]

damn, I hope they're beginners because these guys wouldn't last on the street. And those huge red curtains, damn they're depressing, like training in a secret cult or something.

[confirmbirthdate]

i agree with you!!

[CheetaRevised]

@Shonaripa Randori No kata is a training exercise. Its meant for honing technique.

[AikiKonparu]

Can someone tell me why this kata is called "randori no kata"? Isn't this name a oxymoron?

[courtin]

Not really. They are the 17 basic techniques allowed in full speed free play & competition, mainly for safety reason. Some techniques are risky for uke when done full speed.

[ukaikido]

This is a kata of techniques that are the basics of Randori in Aikido.

[ShodokanAikido]

Randori means free style Aikido. Randori no kata is not an oxymoron. It means Techniques (allowed) in randori practice. It is the Kata of Randori basically. We use these 17 techniques and their variations on Aikido tournaments. It is a strange concept for non Shodokan Aikido players, but it is good fun.

[ronin2167]

Because true randori is mostly cooperative to practice the waza. Don't confuse randori with shiai (fighting). Kata is not real world. Kata is a safe way to practice basic waza. Which some here don't understand the difference...i.e...all the comments about it not working in real life. If uke was actually attacking him, he wouldn't last long because everything becomes accelerated and the falls become almost impossible to take without getting hurt.

[raduz123]

@ronin2167 And there are more breaks. My bud almost broke his elbow during a randori on a grading, that was a year ago and he still has to wrap it up.

[Derukugi2]

I am surprised, this looks very similar to the Judo goshinhou katas. First time I see Tomoki Aikido; interesting.

To the detractors: Yes, these are formal drills. They are supposed to be.

[MaxBrains]

This is Tomiki aikido. Kenji Tomiki was a master of both aikido and judo, and he actually contributed to the Kodokan's goshinjutsu no kata. It all seems very judoy because I think Tomiki Sensei really had the heart of a judoka.

[tenshinage77]

/yesand really judo and aikido are in many ways the same. the bid diffeence being distance. Many a technique is the same just done in an aikido way with distance in mind. number 17 being a very good example its judo. The pair go hand in hand. They are brothers. Kano on seeing ueshibas aikido said this is good judo. He would send his top judoka to train under ueshiba tomiki being one of them.

[markaval]

Although it is not the worst by any means there is little martial spirit and (in my opinion) it therefore loses something - almost becomes an art without real meaning. I honestly think that Aikidoka should remember that Aikido is a martial art and it has to be effective. I've a long, long way to go myself but I my ultimate aim is for people to say my Aikido is 'alive' and that it really works. Does that make sense to any Aikidoka out there?

[tenshinage77]

I hear you completely. To me it ould be an ok performance at a mid level. But these look like dan grades and at that level id expect more. Its kata but it should show sound principle and uke should be stimulateing tori. They need to slow down and think is this going to work. Its safe to say none of them would. Number 2 really stuck out to me. It was bad uke was in no way fixed he would have stepped straight away. Stances were to big. No kamai etc. Kata is where we should be sorting this out.

[madmoravian]

It's interesting seeing how different approaches to the same techniques can be.

[Gunyo]

Very nice, very systematic. I was watching the vintage footage of Tomiki sensei & Oba sensei and it looks more like koryu jujutsu in some aspects than it does aikido. I guess that's the Kodokan judo influence.

[celbii]

Bad techniques, you use too much stregnth and force, you should use none and flow with the energy your technique will be much more effective and smooth.

[markaval]

Many of the techniques are actually not that bad - not sure quite what you mean by 'too much strength and force'. Some are done with some power but I dont see much evidence of strength in the techniques. The one thing I notice is that the whole kata is single paced - techniques should be done at a faster speed than the approach.

[greyfoxbmc123]

the guy on the right gets so owned at 00:39.