CrossFit: Exercise, Health or Does it make any sense?

[menace1537]

People please don't be immature. I have been doing crossfit in Iraq and have been doing it here in the states for 6 months. You always have to research everything throughly both positive and negative aspects of the subject. This man obviously has astronomical knowledge of the human body and creates a valid point. But having first hand results and benefits of my overall fitness level and will remain loyal for changing my life. Now thanks to him I will research the negative aspects of xfit.

[bujaobujao]

While I can "respect" your perception. If you haven't tried Crossfit yourself for at least 2 weeks. I find it hard to find "value" in your opinion. You're only reading a website vs. doing the workout. The point you keep making about everyone going the same exercise all over the world is incorrect. The workout on the website is generally for at home Crossfitters. My experience is that each Crossfit facility does different programs at the individual level and based on broad groups capability

[joshrubineastwest]

@bujaobujao

This is the first logical response I have gotten! Thank you for respecting my opinion as I respect yours. The thing people miss is that I did try it, i say positive things as well in the video, etc. Thank you!

[Jebber8584]

My only problem with all of this is that you more or less called CrossFitters and CrossFit coaches idiots. I have a bachelors in Exercise Science and a masters in Exercise Physiology and a masters in Human Movement. I have spent a good portion of time studying how the body works and moves. I take a lot of time when programming workouts for my clients. So please don't say "with their 2 brain cells" like you're some kind of goddamned genius

[CxOxLxE]

6) They do focus on form BIG TIME.

7) crossfit is about family too everybody is always cheering people on and trying to help, unlike typical gyms.

8) i bet the main reason you didn't like it is because the workout kicked the shit out of you.

9) i trained for 7 months in a typical gym and yes i got stronger and it did help me out some in baseball but training crossfit for a month got me 3x further than reg gym training. Throw & hit harder. More flexible. Crazy endurance. Agility is amazing too.

[CxOxLxE]

1)crossfit doesn't make sense? well neither does why people use roids BUT they both work!

2) not everyone does the same workout, that is what they suggest but most of the time the switch up some exercises.

3) They also aid to your needs, they don't put you out in the hardest workout they have, they start out small and build up.

4) regarding to one rep max, they do that every 4-6 weeks so see how far you have come since the last time.

5) Strength and endurance what else could you ask for?

[famnel1]

@CxOxLxE Are you talking about strenght endurance or strenght and endurance? :-) Crossfit works, HOW, for WHAT, in what REGARD? Beign good at something you repeat is not nessisarily a good thing, if what you are doing is wrong to begin with, in regards to biomechanics and physiology! How can it focus on form when people are doing 50 deadlifts in a row, you can not have good form on 50 deadlifts if you are lifting above 10% of you 1RM :-) 9) So you trained the wrong way in the gym obviously

[CxOxLxE]

@famnel1 let me tell you for my running for my team in baseball last year i was around middle of the pack with running and reg lifting, this year after month 1/2 of CrossFit i am pretty much first in ANY running we do! with hardly any running at all! let me hear all about "biomechanics" and "physiology". When your form starts to get bad take a little break and if it doesn't get better they will drop some weight. 10) you are a dumbass

[famnel1]

A workout "kicking the &&&&) out of anybody does not tell us ANYTHING about the workout what so ever, you must be the type that thinks "no pain no gain" stil is the way to go. Your logic is laughable! 7) In gyms people come to train (and do SPOT each other and small talk), not to bond and exchange ideas on the best cookie recipe!!!

[CxOxLxE]

@famnel1 try it, it works until then get off youtube. yes in CrossFit gyms you don't have time to "small talk" until after. so again hope off the CrossFit hater bandwagon

[famnel1]

@CxOxLxE I saw a chiropractor doing crossfit at a hospital i was working at doing front raises and told him not to ruin his M. Biceps brachii caput longum, he said "oh yes i know", i told him how the program design in crossfit is awful, he kept doing it, am i supposed to think that some joe schmoe that worships his training method will take advice from a stranger on the internet. Noooo :) Okay well people often do in the gym, if your jealous of that go to a gym, and no thanks, i like my body!

[68ponys]

This doucher sumed it up when he said "I did a couple workouts". My guess is he did none. There is no magic to Crossfit, and yes there are flaws (find a program without them). Bottom line is it works, for any person, or any age.... if scaled and dosed properly. This chubby web guy could benefit greatly from Crossfit, go do three months of 3 on and 1 off, you wuold be filming a different video for sure. Not everything makes sense... look at the imperical evidence!

[jkohlruss]

its circuit training 

[jkohlruss]

most off it is sport tranning

[jonesy1727]

Have you actually been to a CrossFit gym and participated? or even watched what happens at a CrossFit gym? I already know the answer is NO!

CrossFit.com is FREE to follow its workouts!! first incorrect statement!

Secondly CrossFit gyms are VERY focused on technique. To the point where they say dont sacrifice form for a better time!!

Before saying CrossFit doesn't work, actually go try it! Otherwise how can you make a true judgement!

[littlejohnsey]

interesting video, I would like to try crossfit very much, but i have a prior shoulder and neck injury. i have been working conventionally lifting weights but i'm not interested in gaining muscle mass but rather lose body fat and gaining stamina. I have been doing circuit training using mostly major muscle groups body weight exercises and very short rest periods. I like the fast pace and sweat approach of crossfit , but some of the techniques and form they use looked dengerous, but are they?

[cedrikleblanc]

I've been doing CrossFit for the past 18 months and I have seen amazing results on my body. You disregard CrossFit for being boring because everyone in the world is doing the same workout but you should know that most CrossFit box will create their own program. Where I workout we have a Strenght based program that goes for 7 weeks. After that we will move onto a flexibility program, but at all time we will keep the CrossFit way of doing it. Hard and Fast! (I'm french so english is not perfect)

[AbsoluteFitnessNJ]

Very good arguments I was just certified in CrossFit a couple of weeks ago, and they have a good philosophy on form and nutrition, I think you may be jumping the gun by judging the entire community based upon the main site... As crossfit gets more and more popular they will be subject to what any other gym franchise has been subject to... The people at the individual gyms will make or break their own place.. While some follow the main board others are programming for individuals based upon needs

[wynnerCF2020]

@klco2005

easy, easy, I'm a diehard Crossfitter too...but personal attacks on his character don't make for good argumentation...I'll discuss my reservations about some of the points he made in a later comment.

[BalanceTheories]

well said buddy

[linker17839]

I agree that crossfit.com is too broadly based and simply adjusting weights is not enough to optimize everyone's performance/fitness.

I disagree with one rep max when it comes to Olympic lifts. I don't see how a max C&J or Snatch would not be beneficial (especially neurologically which you pointed out as a negative).

[victoriagalambos1]

to teach it to others. Its the same as I went to school for fitness.. IT drives me mad that i spend 20,000 to get my diploma where as now you walk into a local good life and take a weekend course and ur a personal trainer? do they have the knowledge that i do? But josh has points, but his points can be argued. It all at how you look at it. Personaly i like the methods of cross fit because im an athlete i think it is very transferable, but. i cant do it to save my life. One day ill get there

[victoriagalambos1]

On the other hand cross fit is more for athletes because it doesnt focus on one muscle group at once it works everything at once. But like everything cross fit is something to be built up to you cant walk in have someone shout at you and you amazingly clean 150 over ur head. There is some thought behind it. Cross coaches are not brainless idiots they at one point ( the founders anyway) had classical personal training, they just got board of the same thing day in and day out. Then they decided

[victoriagalambos1]

reading through many of the endless comments on here it kind of saddens me a little. I get that you all love something so much you are willing to fight for it. There were more negitives then positives in this video. I have trained a few different ppl with different mentalities. Some just want more more more some cant handle a small work out some its to easy. Yes cross fit is for those who want to mental and physcially challange themselves. But yes on the other hand if you cant do it DONT,

[victoriagalambos1]

i dont know about you but i people are to fixated on LOOKING fit then actually being fit, and personally i dont care if you can lift 400 lbs have sexy abs, big arms and tree trunk legs. Can you wipe ur own but or scratch your own back so simply go for a long jog or play a fun game of soccer with out being winded. i think we all need to look at what we define as being FIT

[victoriagalambos1]

not later we want to see results in weeks time not months, cross fit has given the public what they want in a means that is functional to everyday life. we need not to worry so much about what we are doing to our bodies but know that we wont be 70 and have problems moving. if we sit and do nothing in fear of being hurt, we will be 70 in a wheel care unable to care for ourselves, the more we get up and move and exercise the more beneficial it is in the long run.

[victoriagalambos1]

its hard on your joints and maybe they should look into it but there are crossfitters from 10 -80 and it doesnt seem to be slowing anyone down. IF i worried so much about what i was doing and how it would affect me later on i would be sitting at home. Lifting weights is bad for your joints unless you use a minimal amount of weight, running is bad for your knees, spine and hips, and some would argue that we are killing ourselves by the food we eat. Fact our generation wants results now.

[victoriagalambos1]

actually fit???? crossfitters are in a sence athletic. They train in all aspects, they can run for days they have over are power strength as well as flexibility stability and are solid. so they may not look like bodybuilders or have 35 in biceps but do u know any guys who look like body builders that can run a marathon or actually be fit functional... cross fit transfers over to everyday life. They are successful because yes they pus you to you max limit and the rewards are great and yes

[victoriagalambos1]

Im not bashing or discrediting crossfit or josh. But the way i see it.. i went to school for fitness and personal training and josh is right their methods dont make sence. But i have also watch these guys who have super fit bodies and crush weights in the gym who are super strong and always get compliments about how fit they are but in reality, they go to play a simple game of soccer, rugby or football and they cant run to save their lives. They have no stamina or endurance. So are they in fact

[gunot567]

Also, last comment: everyone who posted on here (crossfitters) who call him stupid because he disagrees with the programming, ideas, and concepts CrossFit presents are ridiculous.

How about instead of writing retarded shit and discrediting CF more and more, actually use logical arguments to prove why he is wrong. But, again, if you want to keep making CF look like a bunch of retarded wackos, continue. I think there is good reason why you and I follow CF, express it logically and with respect.

[PremiumWater]

Crossfit does work because they push you to the extremes...in the short term. However if you ask ANY orthopedic surgeon knowledgeable about crossfit they will tell you to stay away from it. This is because many of the exercises and super-sets are just made up without any though of the effect on ligaments or joints. The other problem is that if you simply go until failure for two hours your form goes and you will put extreme pressure on support muscles as well as the ligaments.  Buyer beware.

[txskooter]

I'm just a regular old trainer and have been using crossfitesque methods for years, long before I ever heard of crossfit. But my initial thought is the results speak for themselves. My clients have seen more progress with me than with any other program they have followed. Either way good video, but amigo you need to do some more studying and try to get your brain out of the box.

[Spivster46]

for all the "research" this guy has done on crossfit, he sure doesn't seem to know a lot about it. Explain to me how load and intensity are the same thing.

[djkristang]

but if the average person wants to do crossfit, the workouts are tailored to their needs. I just came off of a broken ankle in june. My first month was all light weight and exercises modified to my needs. Not every gym does the same workout everyday. So before you try and bash crossfit why dont you go check it out? You might actually learn something. I did.

[djkristang]

Ok so its obvious that you have never step foot into a crossfit gym. You are right about a few things. Crossfit is only for mentally tough people. People who wana push their body's to the limit and beyond. This is not a 24 hr fitnes where you have jersey shore douche bags walking around on their cell phones doing 3 sets of 10 of everything. I have been a personal trainer for them and I have been into fitness and Mixed Martial arts for a long time. Crossfit workouts are for athletes.

[sybo59]

What are your definitions of load and intensity? Wouldn't "intensity" be weight plus speed?

[joshrubineastwest]

@sybo59

If you really study program design, intensity is load. That is what it is and that's that! So when people say intensity, that is weight (RM) to be used. As poloquin says, when people are referring to "intensity" these days (how hard a workout is, etc), they should really be saying "density."

[sybo59]

@joshrubineastwest Wikipedia on physics: "To find the intensity, take the energy density (that is, the energy per unit volume) and multiply it by the velocity at which the energy is moving." I'm not an expert at all, but I just don't understand what you mean. If they are indeed the same, doing 50 pushups in one minute would be of equal "intensity" as doing them in five minutes. Intensity becomes a meaningless term. Or are we just using the word differently?

[joshrubineastwest]

@sybo59

That would be a low intensity exercise as there is no weight, just bodyweight. So in the intensity column you would write bodyweight or 50RM, which is a low intensity exercise. Intensity and reps are always inverse as used in this example. Now if you said you were doing a 6 rep back squat, that is higher intensity (heavier load) because the reps are lower. Does that make sense?

[sybo59]

@sybo59 I understand what you're saying; I think this is just a semantical difference. So let's not call it intensity. The speed of completion is something worth taking into consideration, and I believe this is what Crossfit is referring to when they use the word. Thanks for the response.

[fetketable]

the training is adaptable to any age or body. i suppose that you refer to the workout of the day from the official page saying that people all over the world are doing the same thing. those trainings are not for beginners. they are mostly for people who trained to be able to do the training properly because crossfit has also a lot of theoretical knowledge in it for weight lifting and such, so i'm sure you didn't do the trainings properly and you still think you can comment. superficial

[dodgecaravantinted]

I have been doing Crossfit for the past one year..(I was doing biceps curls and other bodybuilding bs prior to that for years). Within the past year I lost 18 pounds of fat, my body fat % went from 24 to 10, and I am stronger and fitter than I have ever been in my life. Does Crossfit work? Read above. (sorry but I cant help it, YOU ARE A LOSER).

[joshrubineastwest]

@dodgecaravantinted

Apologize all you want. We are entitled to our own opinions. YOu think I am a loser and I feel crossfit does not make sense. So there ya go!

Good come back with loser!

[gunot567]

@dodgecaravantinted

Calling him a loser really doesn't help anything, especially when pushing your argument for CrossFit. I have been CrossFitting for a year and a half now and I love it as well but, to call this guy a "loser" because he doesn't agree with CrossFits methods is flat out stupid.

If it works for you, you aren't getting injured and you feel good doing what you are doing, then do it. Hence why I do CrossFit, it works for me. He is just expressing his ideas on why he doesn't agree.

[gunot567]

To Josh, most people actually don't pay for CrossFit. It's website based and most gyms (which is for pay) offer modified workouts (either scaled or completely different workouts) to make sure people who shouldn't be doing those workouts (whether it is due to injury, crap form, etc) are doing something to either make them better at movements, focusing on workouts, etc.

I do agree with you on some parts, but I think that you REALLY hone in on the negatives without checking out the positives.

[joshrubineastwest]

@klco2005

The funny thing as I said it would be all the Crossfit people bashing me so thanks for solidifying that. As well, you all seem to miss the positive things that I say. I guess you here only what you want and if you believed in it so much it would not trigger so much anger!

[tylerjones19]

I wish you could have a debate with Greg Glassman or an elite crossfit athlete

[tylerjones19]

I wish you could have a debate with Greg Glassman

[snowpong1010]

Not cool the way you just come out bashing the CrossFit lifestyle; a more "matter of fact" attitude would have sufficed. The free online workouts on the CrossFit main site are for "garage crossfitters" who don't want to come up with their own workouts. Every other CrossFit gym comes up with their own daily program. Load vs. intensity = how heavy vs. how fast. Not the same. It is not for everyone. If you don't want to put in the time, sweat and sometimes blood, then you don't want to do CrossFit.

[dodgecaravantinted]

You are a loser. Oh and btw, you are welcome.

[joshrubineastwest]

@dodgecaravantinted

Thanks for your interpretation! But since we see ourselves through people...well I think you know what comes next!

[jakeypoo90]

In the time you took to make this ridiculous video, you could have done a crossfit workout and burned some of that fat off of your ass. Crossfit is supposed to be ridiculously hard and rigorous. It is not for everyone. Crossfit is definitely a strength and conditioning program btw. And neither I or my brother or dad or anyone in the gym has ever shit their pants doing crossfit. If you don't want to be incredibly fit and in shape then don't do crossfit douche.

[thessandman]

weak argument,

[joshrubineastwest]

@thessandman

Thanks for listening and your honesty. I honesty do appreciate it as we all have our opinions!

[MorningDancing]

@joshrubineastwest

Everyone can have their own opinions. But before attacking the program, look into it a little bit more. Try going into a CrossFit affiliate and see what they offer, as opposed to just reading the "FAQs" online.

[maddenproject]

to those who seem to have it all figured out, .. I trained in a parallel style for years as a fitness athlete, competing at a National level & placing well in the finals. My physical strength, endurance, skills & aesthetics were top notch, but I NOW am paying the price for years of training with improper muscle firing patterns. So until you know the philosophy & education behind Josh, relax. Teach the body proper functional patterns first, then do the crossfit and do it very well!

[notqu1teme]

your a toolbag.... and are not in shape.. so who are you to say crossfit doesnt make sense... i go to xfit religiously... and this video.. makes me actually LAUGH

[joshrubineastwest]

@notqu1teme

Thanks for laughing!

[drimarie18]

know of any other "program design" that has yielded xfit results. How many people do you know that can deadlift twice their own body weight, bench their body weight, be able to run 10 miles none stop, walk on their hands, do 50 pullups in a row, and not look like a body builder and does not take supplements (besides fish oil)? my guess is a handful if any......me? I know hummm about every single person in the gym I go to which is about 100?

[sirkin02]

Ok just to make a point, crossfit started as free posting workouts on line. un like you who mostly charge for your bad advice. Then people opened there own places. from here every place you go has there own work out, we dont follow the same one every day. and yes there pull-ups. unlike you who most likely can do a few since you must have spent hours in a gym has no flexibly, and no endurance. how can i get mad for someone who knows nothing and show quite doing your stuff and join crossfit

[mogroovee]

Thank you Josh. You rule!!!! Crossfit is such a joke, taught mainly by people with no skills or knowledge of how the body functions. Most of these jokers don't even realize that a muscle-up isn't even an exercise but a transitional move for more sophisticated movement patterns. And serious tactical people use TACFIT.

[AVereen]

Yea, you don't get it. And that's fine. Stay one dimentional and sit in that chair.

[ducatijackal]

I laughed at this, thanks. Can't argue with results. Its very clear you don't get it. Keep fighting it while the rest of the world gets fitter than you and your clients. This is not a "hate" message, but just pointing out you haven't done your homework at all. Subscribe to the Crossfit Journal, spend some time, and have an open mind instead of trying to scare people.

[bestlives]

its your opinion and nothing more...this is the best type of training period!! you should actually do it and not just for a short period of time!! you might get inshape yourself if you actually stick with it!! you are not in shape, and you need some intense training sessions like crossfit! i wish you all the best!

[joshrubineastwest]

@bestlives

Good point..my opinion and that is it. That is my point! Thanks for listening!

[mansfisa]

Appreciate the comments. I have recently begun crossfitting after years of classic strength training with great results. Problem is, as I gained size and strength, I lost other abilities such as agility and flexiblity. I think our mistake is approaching this as an either-or. My recreational life (surfing and other water sports) suffered from my bodybuilding type strength gains. Crossfit provides me with a new challenge, nutritional info., and camraderie (thank you for mentioning these).

[sticks120]

crossfit isnt fo evrrybody. those of us who do it love it. those who dont do bicep curls for an hour. the fact is alot of people se results from crossfit. myself included. and not everyone pays for crossfit. all of the wods go up everyday for FREE. i havent payed a dime for crossfit yet. look dude i dont know much about the body and dont claim to but your arguments are weak. those people who need advice about whether or not to do crossfit shouldnt to it. its about commitment.

[RiverCityPC]

I have a BS in exercise science, I hold a CSCS, I have read the works of everyone that you talk about.

I don't know if you sincerely don't understand the programming in Crossfit, if you have had one negative experience, or as you say, you have encountered the clients of less well informed Crossfit coaches, but I find most of your criticsisms tenuous, oversimplified, flat out incorrect and sometimes personal (2 brain cells?).

You're selling yourself at the expense of an idea.

[nikechic619]

Specialization is for insects! If you aint cleaning, jerking, and snatching, then you ain't livin! (in my best hillbilly voice). See you at the CF Games! Dude CF is just what some people like to do. Some people like to workout hard and almost kill themselves. I can understand it is not everyone's cup of tea. But imagine though, if someone died on your watch just because you COULDN't push yourself hard enough. Ouch, not on my watch!

[nikechic619]

Bring your complaints and your clients to the CrossFit Games. CF fitness is not a Miss Fitness or Mr bodybuilder competition. Again it's being prepared for the unknown and unknowable, and many of our armed forces, police, and firemen, have put their CF training to the test with undeniable results. You are right, it might not be for everyone. At our gym we have a sign that says, motivated people only!

[nikechic619]

Yeah CF has somewhat of a "cult like" following. wink wink, i drink the kool-aid! But what you don't understand is that CF has a totally different definition of what "FITNESS "is compared to mainstream global-gym fitness, and what old school kinesiologists like mysel have use to have. CF fitness is "increased work capacity over broad time and modal domains. And also being prepared for the unknown and unknowable. We have our bases covered!

[CFBhannah]

Josh, thanks for an interesting take on crossfit. I am always interested to hear what people dont like about the program. I really do hate the overuse of hip extensions. However, I think you made some generalizations and dramatizations. People don't come in to poop their pants nor do we all drone towards main page workouts. We also have started focusing on specifics i.e. crossfit football. We also do cater to injury, age, and so on. Each crossfit is different and varies their own program.

[johnys1500]

You have no idea what you're talking about, most CF gyms won't do the workout off the main site. If you have injuries, there are alternate exercises that can be incorporated into the workouts. CF is intense, you go to a CF gym for the environment. Seeing other people push hard makes me want to work out harder. You sound like a trainer at a globogym where no one gets results and quits after the first month.

[L27productions]

What CF gym have you been to?

[Wazgear]

@joshrubineastwest

What gym did you go to?

[Wazgear]

Wow. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Have you been to a CF Gym?

[cyrusdavirus007]

So what about TRX? Same thing?

[radixhound]

There actually seem to be a lot of discussion within Crossfit about what you're talking about - periodization and programming etc. As for the individualization, my experience is that it does happen when you train at a gym. Since it's 'open source' though - a lot of it comes down to individuals doing their own learning.

Summary? Crossfit is maybe not so great for people who just want someone to tell them what to do. If you're into educating yourself - then Crossfit will help you do that.

[Ptimmons5]

Have to agree, I like the "cool" factor of what crossfit does and how they've mastered "grassroots" - "viral marketing" for a biz model, but agree with your comments around the flaws in their program design. If you can listen with an open mind I would find it hard to disagree with the science reviewed here.

[lankatank]

Refreshing! Amazing that crossfit has become almost cult like. What happened to individuality, specificity, postural and movement assessments and corrections, logic and reason? Hopefully you take up the challenge from davidcbass below. I have seen the crossfit workouts in person and have no doubt we can blow their results out of the water. I dont see any sense in the program either besides kicking your ass, any first day trainer can do that.

[davidcfbass]

@lankatank

I worked with a great conventional trainer for months before CF and cannot downplay the importance of knowledgeable trainers. My challenge is not to see who can kick an athlete's butt the hardest, it is founded in quantitative data and scientific method. Read through some CF materials and try listening to what Greg Glassman proposes. He is a Coach AND a scientist. It is most surprising how serious he and CF in general are about providing scientifically defendable evidence.

[nikechic619]

@lankatank Then we will be seeing you at the next CrossFit games i suppose?

[crankbroker]

go to a crossfit cert. try it sometime...

crossfit change lifes all over the world..

it will change your life too....FOR GOOD

[davidcfbass]

I also want to pass on, unofficially, a challenge from the Crossfit community. We are more than happy to test your methods and theories of fitness against ours in any setting you see fit, without qualification. In fact, if through scientific, evidence-based method, your training provides better fitness and lifestyle application, we would very seriously consider implementing parts or all of your programming. Perhaps a few weeks at an actual affiliate might better inform your judgments.

[davidcfbass]

I want to comment on just a few points you make. First, I do not pay my Coach for programming that is free on the CF main page. I pay for him to train me in a small group setting and for access to a place to train. Further, we rarely train what the main page specifies. At my gym, our coach trains according to an overall ability and task need for the average member.

[TacticalFitOrmond]

Sorry about all the big words.

[sandhedomsundhed]

Holmes.. you are making a fool of yourself. Ps. that thought just traveled 8 times around the world in one second.. go ask your science teacher if that is possible :) Pps. seems to me crossfit is more science "biased" than "based".. and so are it's followers!

[joshrubineastwest]

Agreed! There is not thought process or anything that resembles program design and of course if you teach it and/or do it, you love it. If you listened, I did say some positive things, but of course no one heard those!

[sandhedomsundhed]

I think, that f i were to give a crossfit program to any of my collagues here in Denmark, without telling them what it was about or who wrote it, even the ones fresh out of instructor school would look at me like "what is this about" or start pointing out all the flaws it has. To me crossfit is another "this is THE new s*** and i cant believe we havnt thougth of this before" just taking over for aerobics, stepclasses or ZUMBA or what have we.. im almost looking forward for the next thing

[sandhedomsundhed]

... it just might be parkour :) Josh, i love the videos, i hope you will make a video on supplementing with amino acids in the near future. Pizeace

[TacticalFitOrmond]

Also, you've obviously never taken a physics class. Even my 8th grader knows that Power = Work / Time! Holy cow...Load and Intensity are the same thing? Really? LMAO..and my body is NOT like a Space Shuttle...it's .....like a .....well....body.

[joshrubineastwest]

I am not talking science nit wit...I am talking program deisgn...study chek, poloquin, udor, Istvan, Issurin, Zatsiorsky, Yessis....these are th top in the field. They would all say the Cross Fit sucks and they do, as well there is no program design in it and that intensity in regards to program design = weight to be used! The intensity you are talking about in program design is called Density!

[TacticalFitOrmond]

Josh, the fact that CrossFit is indeed science based progressive quantitative fitness is what attracted me to CrossFit. CrossFit is broad spectrum lactate threshold training with an undulating periodization strength training program built in. You obviously know nothing about programming or you would see that when you look at the daily WODs. Anyone that has any knowledge at all about fitness programming can see that. Gheez. Please just stop trying to talk about something you know nothing about.

[captainjosue]

All I have to say is Crossfit Olympic lifters vs. full time Olympic lifters.

[joshrubineastwest]

It is funny that the only people sticking up are the ones that do it and don't know anything about program design. The only way you can train correctly with lactate threshold is to get tested my friend!!!!

[EZ2anger]

@joshrubineastwest That's because almost all of the people that don't like Crossfit have never tried it.

[sthrnzeta]

This seems all based on your personal opinion and not much based on fact or actual experience. You don't have much to back up your statements and this video seems completely subjective. Doing a couple of work-outs and talking to a few people isn't going to give you a complete picture. FAIL.

[bryman3r]

It doesnt make sense to you because you havent stuck with it long enough to personally realize the results. Your right about not everyone needing the components that crossfit works on, and if you dont want to improve them with out feeling the pain, then dont do it, and dont try to give some opinion of yours to the world to make you feel better about not liking crossfit. Also LOAD and INTENSITY are not the same thing..at all, load is weight and intensity is the repetitive speed

[joshrubineastwest]

Bro, I give MY experience of all the people that come in injured, not so much my experience of doing it. You basically just explained though how little you know about program design...if you study Poloquin, CHEK, Bompa or any of the russian and bulgarians...load and intensity are the exact same thing. You are talking about Density brother! Keep learning!

[captainjosue]

Josh, all you have to look at is the Russian, Bulgarian and Chinese Olympic lifting training methods vs. Crossfit wannabe O lifters.

[mattyoung92]

how the fuck could there be hate mail for what Josh has just said

seriously anyone that contradicts logical information like that ....my god

and yes 1RM testing is the last thing you want to do

[gnemick]

Isn't training at or near your max beneficial for real strength gains, though?

[cabreig]

Well said Josh. From what I have seen, not many cross fit instructors have ever heard the terms tonic & phasic. After all, they simply have to follow the menu, and are not trained to think about the totality or sensibility of what they teach. These adrenaline junkies are our future clients.

[TheSoulXtreme]

Great video as always Josh...but what caught my attention was what you said in the info box "If words can shake your foundation, how strong is your foundation".....that is so true! I gotta use that..

[ChrisChekJones]

Nice work Josh, we don't need this industry moving backwards just as it's starting to get some sense behind it.

[captainjosue]

Well said. Glad someone is exposing and unveiling the hype surrounded by this program. All i have to say, take a look at the way they do Olympic lifts vs. Olympic lifters.

[oneclickandclosed]

refreshing view

[ridinmabike]

Absolutely agree. The constant variety for the sake of variety offers no opportunity for adaptation. It is like the 'work capacity' portion of a periodized plan, only it never ends!

[bookskamaki]

great video. For my perspective, it is better to do as much exercises as possible with good form , taking care the needs my body has. I am looking forward for a good strength program which fits to me.

[riosdante]

When are you reviewing P90X? That would be another program people uphold as universal. Awesome vid and can't wait for more.

[joshrubineastwest]

Same shit, just disguised as another name. Another one is called Insanity.

[onlyMTBlade]

thank you

[airbuzzer]

Great Video, I know a lot of people who say that Crossfit is way "tougher" than any other program out there. What happened to training smart. Does every exercise have to make you feel like puking at the end.