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  • Gotta love the Darwin quote. Praise Jesus King of Kings

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  • The whole argument about all the bad things being done in the name of Christ being acts by people who were not "Real Christians" just screams "No True Scotsman", which immediately puts the argument on shaky ground.

    I wonder if Brock or those who agree with his point of view would accept the word of a Muslim apologist who argued that the 9/11 hijackers were not "Real Muslims". If not, then Brock's whole argument is just special pleading and therefore intellectually bankrupt.

  • @MisterInfidel: Hear hear...

  • @MisterInfidel The same thing can be said about atheists and Communism. And don't give me the "it doesn't follow" crap, riddle me this: Clearly atheists claim not primarily to be atheists but rational. So does Communism follow from reason or not? If not, what was the flaw? Where's the error that you could compare to the error "there's a God"? That is a valid question, isn't it?

  • @john42t I think you're confusing communism with Stalinism. Communism is merely an economic model, and one that I don't personally happen to agree with, based around the concept of communal ownership of property. Stalinism was a combination of communism and totalitarianism bound together by a cult of personality built up around Stalin. It's possible to be reasonable and still be wrong, but Stalinism was not reasonable, as it placed one man's word above evidence.

  • @MisterInfidel No, I don't mean Stalinism. I mean the concept of communal ownership. Does it follow from reason? Would you argue that it was just a mistake? As in, oops, didn't work, who would've though that, surprise, surprise? If so, why is Castro still fond of it? Why are so many leftists still sympathetic of Castro? That doesn't smell like an honest mistake to me. It smells just like religion.

  • @john42t Communal ownership is, IMO, a logical progression from incorrect assumptions. As for why some people are still enamored of it, you'd have to ask them. I have never been a communist. I would merely point out that ideas need not be religious to be held dogmatically. Nor is communism synonymous with atheism. See Ayn Rand. The ideological underpinning of modern conservative capitalism was hugely influenced by her work. And she was just as staunch an atheist as she was a capitalist.

  • @MisterInfidel Then we largely agree. I merely want to point out how it looks to a Christian. Ayn Rand doesn't live to make YouTube videos, and the atheists on here are almost exclusively at least pro-welfare, if not outright communist. And they are to some extent "bonding", that is collectively attacking the likes of TAA as if they were somehow in the same team. Why would they do that if it was only about a negative (not believing), rather than a positive (welfare-statism)?

  • @john42t I think the reason so many people react negatively to TAA is that he paints us all with a broad brush. He seems to place all atheists in the same camp and then uses ridiculously spurious arguments to slander us. If he were bad-mouthing black people I think a lot of black people would get just as angry as us, regardless of their political leanings.

  • @MisterInfidel The argument "not all atheists are alike" is the one before you come with "communism doesn't follow from atheism" and it's even weaker, as atheists here on YouTube usually paint all Christians with the same brush too, and also often in a very ugly manner (see the amazing atheist, for example).

  • @john42t But are you not now committing the same mistake? Why should I be painted with the same brush as the Amazing Atheist. I'm not one of his subscribers. I've never defended anything he's said. Point of fact; I've only watched a handful of his videos and am at best lukewarm on him. (I'm more of a Potholer54 / DonExodus2 / AronRa man, myself.) I'm not about to apologize for what others said just because they happen to be atheists like me. I answer for myself and no one else.

  • @MisterInfidel No, I said that *neither* you (as an atheist) *nor* the atheist antitode should whine about his particular group being attacked. It's perfectly all right to say: all atheists are commies / all Christians are evil. It might be wrong or right, one might make a rebuttal, but to bitch like "but I'm different and feel insulted" is idiotic and pointless in both such cases. And I don't think that the atheist antidote is the one who makes that mistake.

  • @john42t I'll have to disagree with you there. When someone says that atheists are immoral or inferior I, as an atheist, have every reason to feel slighted and every right to point out the flaws in that person's arguments. When someone says "atheists are bad", I'm not saying "yes, they're bad but I'm the exception", I'm saying "No atheists aren't bad and the arguments you're using to support your position are rubbish." That's not bitching. It's calling out a liar and exposing his dishonesty.

  • Exodus 21

    20"If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished.

    21"If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property.

    That is Biblical slavery. It is ok to nearly beat your slave to death.

  • Holy Shit.

    I though revisionist history was bad. Not only is this revisionist, but it's also entirely fabricated.

    Good job calling history the "atheist propaganda machine". There you go- label everything that stands against you in history as an atheist propaganda machine, because that's not fallacious.

  • Nice Green Lanter rip off.

  • Well then, stalin, you know, the atheist that killed millions of people, was a FAKE atheist.

    Are you getting payed to spread this bullshit? are you seriously that big of an enemy of personal responsibility?

    Inquisition WAS. that's a fact. What caused it, is another question, but among those causes, there seems to be religion.

    That doesn't prove religion isn't true. It just kicks you off that moral high ground, and unfortunately plunges you on that denial high ground.

  • Aside actually, it was the protestantism that consists of many denominations. Catholics and orthodoxy are one group.

  • *With the exception of the similarities between Roman Catholicism and Eastern Church Orthodoxy.

  • Emperor Nero was an atheist who is with the whore of babylon jerusalem.

  • No true Scotsman

  • what about the beating of the slaves, "the custom of the day was to kill a run away slave," is it customary for employers to kill their employee if they quit?

    some towns in early america had more slaves than white ppl, don't want to sound offense but don't know what to call the non slaves other than white. subs.

  • Yes, it was Catholics torturing and killing Muslims and Jews (or those they suspected). You know absolutely nothing about history. You lose.

  • @Jonstern1983 Are you aware that the Catholic church is the only christian church present by the time of Peter and the Apostles? Also I'm not sure about "persecuting the jews and muslims" accusation. The whore of Babylon is proven to be Jerusalem and not all these. I just posted!:

    watch?v=Ey111cIDYNs

  • @youpussy9 Have you ever heard of the Inquisition?

  • @Jonstern1983 shut up you hypocrite...

  • @youpussy9 How is that hypocritical? I'm stating 2 facts, 1. It is my opinion that generally speaking a 19 year old's vagina is awesome and worthy of love. and 2. The Spanish Inquisition was instituted by the Roman Catholic Church and carried out by a monk named Tomas De Torquemada. That is undeniable. Plus you have no idea who I am or what I do, so you cannot say that I am a hypocrite, a baby, or a pussy. I was simply making fun of your name in the second post.

  • @Jonstern1983 19 is too young you baby! I'm 23 yrs old and I fucked already! That's not the case here.

    First of all it doesn't make much sense since it's SPANISH inquisition not Catholic. 2nd it says ORTHODOXY. East an west church is separate

    later fagot!

  • @youpussy9 The national religion of Spain at the time was (and btw still is) Catholic, and both the royalty and the inquisitors needed to ask permission from the Papacy. Second off, what does it matter what form of Christianity was torturing and murdering people who held different beliefs, or when there was a schism between the churches? They were still all Christians, and they still enacted atrocities in the name of their religion.

  • @Jonstern1983 There are massive differences between every single christian denomination. I just told you!... But They are sumarized to very short category:

    1. CATHOLIC

    2. Orthodoxy

    3. Reformation

    Within these levels are the same kinds but these 3 are mostrously different! With the exception of the orthodox.

    Plus you're talking about SPANISH inquisition which has something to do with their political and country agenda. This is when the church and sate is one!

  • @youpussy9 there will always be declaration of war and crusades in politics without the needs to invoke and judge their religious side.

    FOOLISH!

  • I personally think all persecution, torture, and genocide are wrong even if it is someone who belongs to my ethnic or ideological group (which they technically they would only share one aspect of my ideology, and certainly not the main moral one) were the people committing it, so I have to ask you, how does that make me a hypocrite?

  • @Jonstern1983 Spanish Inquisition has nothing to do with Catholic! You are caught lying! And then this sexual harassment - talking about 9 years old girls! Get a life baby! You're a shit!

  • @youpussy9 If you don't want people making fun of your name, then change your name. That was all I was doing, and in no state is 19 considered too young for anything but drinking and renting a car.

    The Spanish inquisition did have to do with the Catholic church in the same way that all matters of state at that time had to. The people in charge of a specific country needed permission from the papacy in order to enact any legislation. It was also justified by the persecutors as a holy act.

  • @Jonstern1983 I need to amend the first paragraph to include buying a firearm entering a casino and entering a swingers club.

  • @Jonstern1983 It was the political side the stat! The country consists of both church and and state that being priests and bishops allowed at court and justices. There is no evidence that it was even a crime. a war or crusade to explore and expand your resources is not something evil. In facts it creates ethics system, converting sinners etc.

  • @youpussy9 Furthermore the man in the video stated that no Christian every committed acts of torture and genocide. The simple fact is that even if the Inquisition was performed without the expressed permission (if not instruction) of the church... It was still carried out by someone who was a Christian. Hell, he was a monk, a member of the clergy. By the way I'm 27, so you are closer to being a baby chronologically than myself.

  • @Jonstern1983 How about I told you that Hitler killed many Christians because of his mustache? I don't believe any of what I say. I don't give a shit about your personal information. I already fucked!

  • @youpussy9 That's idiotic. 1. I don't care about your sex life. 2. I've never said that no one with a mustache killed or tortured anyone, so there is absolutely no equivalence, but then again, Hitler was also Catholic, so my point still stands that Christians have committed atrocities, which the guy in the video denies.

    My point wasn't that Christianity harms people, my point was that Christians have harmed people. If you deny that they were Christian then you are an complete idiot.

  • @Jonstern1983 Wrong moron! It was said that Hitler was an atheist. Emperor Nero was an atheist. There are all of it's type! There are all these atheists who want to terminate Christianity. In Japan there are lots of Christians. There is an event from a story of a martyr saint in Japan whom they fall in line just to spit the cross of Jesus and that one kissed it then the samurai just slash her head in anger. It was always atheists who kill people because they believe in God. EVIL!

  • @youpussy9 You've obviously never read Mein Kampf, listened to any of his speeches, or looked at the Nazi belt buckle. Not to mention that Atheism by definition is a lack of belief in any gods, so saying that Atheists kill people because of their belief in God (I'm assuming you mean Yahweh), is utter lunacy. And that other than being allied with them Hitler had nothing to do with Japan. Nero was actually a worshiper of the Roman pantheon, not an Atheist.

  • @Jonstern1983 Wrong Pussy! I never said Hitler was in Japan. Hitler do not believe in God which is the original one. Any atheist leader would say that they believe in God. you'll be shock how many (if you want links to their secret conversation - Hitler plus many more) The other gods like osiris was not at all a god but had been buried and found his skull. Where did Nero Worship panthein? It's bullshit because they even worship planet saturn which is idolatry.

  • @youpussy9 And again, I'm not blaming all Christians or even Christianity for atrocities, although a case could be made for certain ones, I'm simply stating that Christians have committed atrocities.

    Honestly it seems like all you have are non-sequiturs, ad hominem, and personal attacks. You have no facts, only beliefs.  As Voltaire said, "As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities. "

  • @Jonstern1983 Wrong again and you're changing the subject acting to be the more rational one " THE DEFENDER OF JUSTICE!" Shut up pussy, there isn't much time for it. All I'm saying is that more atheists would kill somebody because they believe in God. It's ok that you don't believe in God - but that won't change my wants to push truth and facts as my focus etc. not believing is God is ok but actually saying something against God and what we believe in , insulting and prejudicing, that's off tab

  • @youpussy9 First off, Hitler wrote Mein Kapf before he had any power, second off you mentioned that he killed Christians, and the only thing you could mention in relation to that was something that happened in Japan. Third off, even if those conversations were verified, which they weren't (the only one recorded has Hitler state that mentions that he is Christian but views Jesus as vengeful and warlike) that would not mean that he killed people because they believed in any gods.

  • @Jonstern1983 He was a power hungry, bat-shit insane, bigot, that is why he ordered to kill 12 million people. Fourth off, Yaweh was only established as a god about 3400 years ago, where as Ahura Mazda started being worshiped about one hundred years prior to that, and the Hindu Pantheon, Brahma, Krishna, and Shiva in particular have their oldest text date back 5000 years. You're view of god, IE Jesus, was only formally adopted by a large group of people, less than 2000 years ago.

  • @Jonstern1983 Formerly.. Your not saying 2000 years is is formerly and then adoptd. Foolish analogies. First we have this explosion. You have to remember, The very first movement of Christianity is persecuted and crucified as martyrs. They hid underground. Evidence for empty tomb is overwhelming there's no denying it. 100 or more pagan non biased historians agreed to write it's existence in history since it existed plus the texts in the Bible itself!

  • @Jonstern1983 God is not any god, that's the mainstream so shut up pussy! Hitler stating he's a christian before power is to show that he can brains wash and get to power in the first place. Now look at this conversation it was verified!:

    h tt p : / / w w w d o t answers d o t org / apologetics / hitquote d o t html

  • @youpussy9 Apologetics is just another word for ignoring facts.

  • @Jonstern1983 It don;t matter. That material is material.

  • @youpussy9 It's the mainstream in the West, but look at India. Brama/Krishna/Shiva are the mainstream there. Look at Japan, you have nature spirits as the mainstream. Look at the Middle East, Allah (I know technically Yaweh, but still a different name), is the mainstream there. It's only mainstream in your culture. If you look back about 400 years, then the Great Spirit was the mainstream in my geographic location. Simply being commonly accepted does not make something factual.

  • @Jonstern1983 You're trying to say :

    "oh well here's all of the other gods - obviously God(the original one) is all myth as well."

    How about I told you that these pagans were bullshitly accepting materialism and evolution. Hindus and Buddha don't believe in God. they were contemporary atheists who do not believe in a Original all Intelligent Creator. They believe in spontaneous infinity of the earth.

  • @youpussy9 I never mentioned Buddhism which, while technically atheistic has its own set of ridiculous beliefs. When I said Japan I was referring to Shintoism. Hindus are actually polytheists meaning they believe in multiple gods including an intelligent creator (Brahma). I also never said that there was definitively no god(s). I stated that there was a lack of compelling evidence, and there are other beliefs that are held just as strongly and have just as much evidence.

  • @Jonstern1983 I quoted scientists who were actually more militant atheist than you are and they converted to Christianity which had abundant evidence in the explosion itself. 100 pagan historians written Jesus in history (including crucifixion, resurrection and ascencion).

    We take their pagan Gods in the name of man, compared to Jesus and their skulls were found. History wrote about it. God is not included in gods. Notice it's capital.

  • @youpussy9 None of that proves any gods exist, only that someone named Jesus (which was actually a common name did) and that he was killed.

  • @Jonstern1983 HA! The apostolic explosion and the ton historian that written the one Jesus the original existed including the real true events. The apostolic explosion shown that Christians were underground and had always been persecuted. Look at China. The Christians there hid underground. It only took fraction of time before even the pagan Rome adopted Christianity. and so that's an explosion in numbers not gradual brainwashing.

  • @youpussy9 other than the fact that it about a century for this "explosion" to occur, and was precede by an emperor converting and winning a war over the throne (there was no such Christian in China). Not to mention that again, apologists ignore that fact, and ignores the fact that we do not know who actually wrote the gospels, and the simple fact that there are literally hundreds of stories that have the exact same events as recounted in said gospels. They most likely have to do with the sun.

  • @Jonstern1983 Wrong. The pagan rome had adopted it and rejected pagan cult.

    Pagans and atheists have very same beliefs which is materialist. It's because they were persecuted underground until the miracle to Constantine by Jesus. And no, there weren't found a shred of evidence that people had written similar man to Jesus' life. The man gods other than Jesus were worshiped in materialism and believed in evolution. They never coincide anything. You can be talking about the zeitgeist movie.

  • @youpussy9 By the way, do you realize how far this is from the original argument that there have been Christians who have committed atrocities? Regardless of whether or not their religion entered into their justification, they were still genocidal torturers. I am a Jewish agnostic atheist, and I freely admit that people of both my ethnic heritage, and religious viewpoint have committed similar atrocities, so why can't you admit the same for your own people?

  • @Jonstern1983 Are you aware that Hitler was an atheist? BTW, The mothers of the man God Osirus etc were never as of the same life of Jesus'. First they have skulls - remains and they weren't born by virgin. It's been founded in history that their mothers are fucked! Never did it quoted that they were born by virgins in first place and no crucifixion. Bullshit!!

  • @youpussy9 No, Hitler was not an athist. Hitler was a Roman Catholic. He was also endorsed by the Pope at the time.

  • @MrBiomaniac You're late at the topic bot! Look at the link!

  • @youpussy9 You're also changing the subject, but you were doing it from the beginning. I am merely pointing out the fact, that the facts are on my side. And all of those "Atheists who kill people for believing" in God," as you put it do believe in the irrational. Nero believed that he was the son of Jupiter, Hitler (even if he was an Atheist) believed that all races were inferior to Aryans and should be killed. Pol Pot believed that anyone with an obvious advantage would threaten...

  • @Jonstern1983 They are types of atheists. Pagan is not a serious religion. It's not based on fact of the good ethics. They are proven to yield to materialism which is agreed to had been counter existential and destroyed by modern contemporary science. Think about it:

    The earth hangs on empty space. It's the very same people who thinks the earth infinite and shit like that.

  • @youpussy9 the safety of the world. Jean Paul Marrot believed (One of only two people on the list of psychotic murderers who did state that he wanted to kill people simply for having religious beliefs) believed that the only way to gain political equality between the classes, was to kill the rich. They all believe in the absurd, as do you, since you cannot see where you diverge from simple facts, nor can you point out anything based in fact that supports your hypothesis. Can you prove Yahweh?

  • @Jonstern1983 wrong. Now you began to attack my own sanity state. Notice again this is a hot topic so don't bullshit that you're right. Again I believe that all people should have freedom to chose what they believe but that don't change my assertions on facts and peers. William \Craig a cosmologist and a lawyer is not "brainwashed to believe in God. He simply read the Bible independently only when he's like 13 or 17 and then chose Catholic. Don't spit on me!

  • @youpussy9 You cannot. I know this because everyone who has tried to prove the divine or supernatural has failed. That makes that belief absurd. And no, I'm not being hypocritical, I'm simply stating that there is no evidence for something; I'm not stating definitively that gods do not exist, I'm simply asking for proof before I make my judgment.

    And again, I must point out that personal insults weaken your case. What exactly makes me a pussy?

  • @Jonstern1983 How do you actually know that it failed? Number 1 it stated that God lives within higher laws of physics and dimension. Einstein just unfinished his work on 11 dimensions. Let alone the guts to disprove such existentialism. there had been number of astronomers who believed in God based on the fine tunning data which is overwhelming scientific evidence. note these were ones independent atheists who recently passed out and converted.

  • @youpussy9 Is it because I don't want people killed over any belief system? Is it because I blame the individuals involved and actually learn about them stating exactly what they were? Is it because I would rather think that reality is all there is instead of believing that there is something that exists outside of time and space? Maybe you simply do not know the definitions of the words you use. You lost this debate the second you defended the Inquisition.

  • @Jonstern1983 There's not just saying that there's more to time space. the physical world itself is filled with mystery and relies on other existing laws of such mechanism in the subatomic particle. Time and matter itself just dissolves. We can't even unify string theory and relativity and quantum mechanics because of the vastness of mysterious information unexplained of the universe. You are foolish to believe that and limit that "OH THIS IS "EVERYTHING". U dnt even how wht everything reacts

  • @youpussy9 This guy can say it better than myself. youtube.com/watch?v=O3FN0JMn_U­k&feature=sub

  • @Jonstern1983 Hey i can't see it.. Put it at pm. ENJOY!

  • @youpussy9 BTW, I honestly love your name... I love youngpussy... but I'd prefer 19 to 9.

  • @Jonstern1983 you won't get young pussy jackxpired! WTF! 19 - 9?? you're a baby! So, YOU pussy!

  • Thats the typical excuse christians give when another christian commits a crime.They were not true christians.No 1 is perfect christian or otherwise and many atrocities have been committed by many people christian or otherwise.A pastor committed 2 counts od 1st degree murder and was executed in 2003 because the bible says not to harm children.So he murdered an abortion doctor and his body guard.Gallileo was persecuted by the church because he proved the earth wasnt the centre of everything.

  • lets look at the undeniable horrible acts of god like killing all on earth but one family. Twice forcing incest upon a few humans... how did they ever repopulate with such little gene divircity we will never know. Killing entire cities. Created all plagues and diseases that ever horribly destroyed men. And on and on.

  • Oh god you're retarded -___-;

  • Slavery never ended, just became more subtle and insidious.

    God isn't bringing much good news outside of the developed world

  • I suppose the Pope didn't meet with Hitler.

  • A fine example of the no true Scotsman fallacy.

  • Comparing slavery to employment is an absolute joke.

    Not only are you wrong, but you are an asshole. There are thousands and even millions doing secular charity work. Furthermore, there is absolutely no work of charity a Christian could do that an atheist couldn't do, and the atheist isn't doing it for the reward, fear of punishment and they are proselytizing to the recipient..

    It's really funny that you think you are better than, when all you do is spew hate.

  • OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!

    HE DID NOT JUST CLAIM THAT THE INQUISITION WAS THE WORK OF FAKE CHRISTIANS!!!! IS HE THAT FUCKING STUPID!!!!

    Before I thought this guy was just ignorant, he had a few points to make, but the logic was flawed. I didn't see anything completely wrong with him. But then he played the oldest trick in the book, saying any time a Christian does something bad, he must've not been a real Christian.

  • @Jarut195 I love you.

  • Now I get it, its satire. Suddenly it all makes sense. For a minute there I actually thought this guy was really that fucking ignorant. Man, he had me going there for a second. He's good. He should try out for The Big Bang Theory. They could use a comedian like him. He never broke character once and he absolutely NAILED the part of a brain-washed, perjuring, rhetoric spewing, religious idiot! Now that's what I call comedy. Keep up the good work making those barmy Christians look so asinine.

  • nomatter if you think weather it were "true" christians or not. They justified their actions with "the word of god" which - if you take the bible literally correct - quite possible.

    Those examples of loving each other isn't the only thing thats written in it.

  • your stupidity and out right distortion of the historical facts has left me speechless. your complete ignornace of the truth is almost laughable, but it is clear from the way you present your videos and the way you dodge the facts that there is something mentally wrong with you. I hope you get some help, and christianity isn't the red pill son, its the blue one. wake up from the dream.

  • I love your videos Borck, but theres a HUGE problem in this video. The Spanish inquistion was done in Spain obviously, after the Spanish conquest of Iberia. The inquisition cleansed Jews and Muslims from Spain, NOT Protestants, whos faith wasn't even invented yet. Also, the English became Protestant by the authority of the KING, Henry the 8th, who did so just so he could divorce his wife. His successors, killed thousands of Catholics, who took revenge in the reign of bloody Mary.

  • After Marys death, the Protestant rulers took revenge on the Catholics for their revenge, going so far as to conquer, enslave and commit a near genocide of the Catholic population in Ireland. English Protestants arguable were more brutal than the Inquisitors. The killing of Protestants by Catholics your thinking of is called the counter-reformation, which was only violent for about 30-50 years. Also Catholicism isn't supersitution, its just tradition. You shouldn't attack another Christian faith

  • (continued from previous post) If slavery was antithetical to Christian teaching, Europe should have ended slavery when Christianity was at the height of its power. It is interesting to note that the more secular the European nations became, and the more a separation of Church power and state power became the norm in Europe, as well as criticism of Biblical teaching became more pervasive is when slavery started to be abolished in Europe and America.

  • (continued from previous post) Hence, logically, something OUTSIDE OF CHRISTIANITY brought slavery to an end. More than likely this was the Enlightenment, which was itself induced by certain economic factors. This is not to say that many Christians were not instrumental in the abolition movement. But it was not the doctrines of Christianity that inspired men to liberate their fellow men from bondage(continued).

  • Brock (TheAtheistAntidote) claims that slavery was brought to an end by the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Anyone with common sense, and a rudimentary understanding of history can tell you that Christianity cannot be the impetus behind the end of slavery. Why? Christianity dominated European culture for roughly 1600 years after the death of Christ, and when the Church's power was married to the state for that duration, there was not any attempt to end slavery (continued).

  • Considering slavery was the same as employment: You were inspired by a story by paul saying "recieve him not as a slave or servant, but as a brother"?

    You're against politicising religion?

    What are you? A freaking socialist?

  • Christian missionaries should wear black, hooded robes and carry sickles 'cuz they may as well be angels of death. Consider: Fundie thinking says that only those who are exposed to and reject The Gospel will go to hell. Innocent babies, aborted fetuses, those living so remotely they've never seen a Bible (etc.) all get a free pass to Heaven. So, telling ANYONE about this God is counter intuitive to sending people to heaven because you're now setting them up for failure. (Like this video.)

  • "The Atheist Propaganda Machine." Ah yes, I know it well. It's located in a factory in the slums of Sin City. It pumps out my morning newspaper.

    Only a fundie could spin something like slavery into a good thing. You can almost see a twinkle in his eyes as he's no doubt remembering "the good ol' days." Ah yes, chosen slavery. That was some good livin'.

  • It wasnt 10 Christians a year! They didnt execute christians you idiot.

    Bosnia-Hercegovina is still recovering from the bloody inter-ethnic war of 1992-95. Around 250,000 people died in the conflict between Bosnian Muslims, Catholic Croats and Orthodox Serbs.

    Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834) According to Rummel: 350,000 deaths overall.

    France, Religious Wars, Catholic vs. Huguenot (1562-1598)

    The French Religious Wars, 1562-1598: Deaths during the wars estimated at 2Million to 4Million

  • The inquisition is not the only time the Church has been responsible for wholesale slaughter.People are still dying in the name of God today.Read some more, you sound like an intelligent person.

    Remember the Nazis created great automobiles & discovered rocket power & jet airplanes but does that mean that it was a "good thing" to be a Nazi? That's all I'm trying to say. Peace.

  • EP-"Is that really keeping you up at nights?

    Its nice you care so much about those Christians but really?"

    My point was to show the perversion of religion. What would be an acceptable death toll for you in the name of Christianity?

  • All of these lies from your mouth... You are NOT a REAL christian!

    The inquisition wasn't christian, but the holocoust was atheistic, right..?

    You LEARN from Ben Stein. That means HE knows more than you. That's a scary thought.

  • You sound a little stuffed up - like the bullshit in you has reached critical mass and is stifling your own breath.

  • The last thing I care about is some arrogant fuckface on youtube who expresses his worthless oppinion that are:

    1. Slavery is a good thing "in biblical times". Slavery still exists today, and "the gospel of jesus christ" didn't end anything.

    2. Missionaries were 100% peacefull (lets not count in the whole supressing of native people and their religion)

    3. Do the typical thing of pointing "they were not true-christians". Because you defently say similar things when a muslim man kills people.

  • Keep it up buddy! God bless!

  • good video

  • Slavery doesn't equal slavery even though it was translated by men probably more pious than yourself into the word slavery. Sorry buddy it says SLAVERY in the bible not indentured servants, "SLAVERY" & has interesting & brutal ways to treat them much like SLAVERY was in the USA.

    You are so far gone in the head I believe any day now that reality will escape your grasp entirely.

  • Are you fucking kidding me?

    "The Inquisition worked in large part to ensure the orthodoxy of recent converts, especially Jews, Muslims, and others coerced on pain of death to adopt the Christian religion."

    From Wiki- they have over 98 references relating to this subject I suggest you read a little history before more shite rolls out of your mouth.

  • so do you have a source or are you going to just keep babbling?

  • Much easier to lie when you dont know your lying isnt it AA?

  • This guys is just an All out fail...So the only ones that you consider Christians are the ones you like to remember is that it? good job buddy... If someone follows the faith, and believes that Jesus Died on the cross that makes them christian. And for centuries, if you were atheist, or practiced some strange form of religion you would be executed, Salem witch trials? throughout the history of Christianity this exists. this guy is fail after fail...

  • And let's not forget the little holy war that is being carried out under the guise of "the war on terror."

  • This is what ignorant theists actually believe.

  • *gooey failgasm*

  • Wow what a scapegoat! I wonder if he has the same opinion of mao, polpot, or stalin. The bottom line is they were christians. Hitler mentions the deity many times in "Mein Kamf", and had an entire nation of christians obeying his every wish.

  • Ah the no true scotsman logical fallacy, I love how he flings this illogic around with his arrogance smugness.

    It is pure comedy gold. * grabs popcorn*

  • Why do I hear so much about "True Christians"? Who are you to judge who is a true christian or not? Check out Matthew 7:1-3, aka, "Judge not lest ye be judged".

    Do not let the irony of an atheist calling out your B.S. by citing the bible go unnoticed.

  • Wow this is incredible BULLSHIT!

  • Why do you say that? Let's hear you brain washed rhetoric!!

    Do you ever see what countries run to the aid of other countries in need like Haiti when the tsunami hit. Buddhists? Muslims? Hindus? Atheists? No!! Christian nations, America, Canada, England Australia ect... Get it right!! Stop letting yourself be indoctrinated. Become a true "Free Thinker" Stop Hating!!

  • Oh really? Well think about the amount of money that actually goes to the families that need it...propably 5% all of it goes to the pockets of the corrupted leaders...and then again I'm starting to doubt the christianity of those nations :) Go tell spread your word of jesus to there...

  • and this is still true to this day

  • any and everytime anyone looks at what Christ taught.........they find this in stark adversity of what menkind taught, from day one

  • HE LIES!

  • Is that a caribou at the end?

  • You just crushed all the athiests w their vapid objections. So awesome.

  • @BROCK:

    I wonder what inspired the inquisitors' actions... Maybe the bible... which encourages witch hunts and demon expellings.

  • Amen. Well said Brock.

  • I can't fathom why you would be so self righteous and yet so ignorant of the actual facts. Also STOP ATTEMPTING TO APPEAL TO AN ATHEIST'S SENSE OF AUTHORITY THROUGH DARWIN YOU FOOL. i felt that deserved CAPS, even if you had proof the Darwin was a theist, and you don't, because it is well known that he was strong in his convictions and did not renounce on his death bed as is popularized on creationist websites, it doesn't demonstrate a thing about the validity of theism.

  • Missionaries, are so great, they promote the use of prayer in replacement of sexual contraception, which actively spreads aids in some of the poorest nations in the country. They don't provide proper medical care, just a temporary solution to an ongoing problem, rather than providing aid to grow, and till farms and fund research into sustainable crops, they provide them with a bible and a promise of an afterlife.Christianity in Africa has blended with voodoo and the witch burning is common again

  • "they promote the use of prayer in replacement of sexual contraception, which actively spreads aids in some of the poorest nations in the country."

    I'm going to step out on a limb and suggest you aren't going to be able to provide a single example of AIDs being spread by the act of praying.

    Secondly, Christians are not even opposed to the use of contraception. That's a Catholic rule.

  • Wrong, as would be expected, the Spanish inquisition was conducted by the catholic church. It wasn't 'fake' Christians, fool, it was an effort by the church to control the people in further than they already did. What you may mean is that the Christians being persecuted, were other forms of non-catholic Christians, but the point is it was because of religion that it occurred, because the religious people were after control, which is inherent of religion.

  • You'll get no argument from me what's been called the church - not only Catholics - has committed horrible acts in history - in Jesus' name. These have also been guilty of gross anti-semitism - wickedness. A Christian does the Lord Jesus no favors denying the reality.

    I'm only addressing the fallacy of applying the Scottsman fallacy to true & false Christians. Wearing a name and attending a building is not what the bible (THE Christian authority) says makes one Christian.

  • it matters not if they are "real" christians, what they did they did in the name of god, and believed they had gods permission.

  • Someone claimed the "no true scottsman" was beng implemented. I've been addressing that.

    I don't know what your point is, but I'll be glad to address it if I can.

  • my point is what I said.

    You can say "christians do this, but they weren't true christians" but it does not change the fact they did it in the name of God and for the Christian religion.

    Besides, before you can say who is a true or false Christian you have to show what is a true and false Christian. Whether they devote their lives to helping others, or they become mass murderers, both are justified by the bible, therefore "true" in the sense they follow the teachings of Christianity.

  • How do you know what they believed? People lie about all kinds of things, including what they believe. You think politicians all tell the truth?

  • Well this was amusing.

  • you people who hate brock are hopeless. You can't see a beautiful guy when you see him. He is a good strong displayer of humanity that I strive to emulate. If he were an atheist you people would be proud to have him as a speaker. That's bias if I've ever seen it. I've seen far less intelligent and less charsimatic people who are atheists get 5 star videos. What a scam. Just goes to show where peoples priorities are. God bless you Brock.

  • He is intellectually dishonest and fails to substantiate anything he says. You support someone who uses an endless parade of strawmen, universal statements and wholly unresearched statements. What's more, he targets young and impressionable people with his anti-intellectual ranting propaganda and blatant lies. Your support of him is a rather telling sign of your own character.

  • no he's probably the most intellectually honest person out there, the only problem is atheists are intellectually delusional and have this false sense of pride that they are "so called free thinkers" Brock is a living example of applying the logic that atheists so pride themselves on to Christianity. There is a ton of logic to christianity that I couldn't cover in this comment form. yeah I also support craig ferguson. What does that say about my character?

  • logic to Christianity? Like standing on a mountain and seeing all of earth? like a guy living in a fish for three days? like noahs arc? like god saying "thou shalt not kill" then commanding people to kill over 300,000 people, not counting 65 cities of unnamed size he ordered destroyed. Or giving a list of all the things you must kill people for?

    like saying the world is held up by pillars?

    Yeah, real logical stuff.

  • blatant lies? just because you don't agree with his statements doesn't make them lies at all. I'm inclined to believe that your beliefs are formed on lies due to the fact of movies like the god who wasn't there that says that there were 20 christ like figures throughout history that shared the traits of being born to a virgin, dying on a cross, have 12 disciples, raising from the dead, etc. That is an outright lie that wouldn't strive if it were a statement made against the atheist community.

  • NIN992 - I think you just made yourself look very very silly indeed with your little rants there. Brock talks bollocks and not just any old bollocks, a rather fringe type of American style fundamental bollocks. You seem to be an admirer of stupidity and all anyone can do is feel compassion towards you for Brock is the very definition of stupidity and dishonesty to boot. Good luck with your Brock apologetics.

  • targeting youth huh? I guess like Richard Dawkins who speak at college campuses or how about that guy who gave the blasphemy challenge that encouraged people to denounce christs name because they'd win a free movie. Using money to manipulate young people into saying god doesn't exist. What a sterling account of integrity among the atheist community.

  • it has nothing to do with how he speaks, it is what he says that we judge him on, and all he seems capable of saying are lies, half-truths, and distortions of facts.

    Just because a person is charismatic and able to say pretty words means nothing of their honesty, or the truth behind what they say.

    If he were an atheist I'd be on his ass like I am now because he'd be giving atheists a bad name.

  • If he were an atheist I'd be on his ass like I am now because he'd be giving atheists a bad name.

    I highly doubt it.

    and no he's speaking the truth, you can't ask for any more than that. And it is truth.

  • everything he says is provably false, try to actually think instead of excepting what he says as truth without even knowing anything first.

    Also the christ like figures before Christ, that's historical fact, not a lie. You don't even know what you're talking about and you start labeling things truth or lies. Try reading a book sometime.

  • Oh yes, I almost forgot one of the greatest flaws in the bible. Use your so called "logic" here.

    Adam and Eve are the only two people on earth, they have two sons, Cain and Abel. Cain kills Abel then leaves his parents and gets a wife and moves into a city... So if Adam, Eve, and Cain are the only 3 people in the world, where did his wife and this city full of people come?

  • And, when Cain was mentioning that someone who found him would kill him, who was he afraid of? His mum and dad? Don't forget that. ;]

  • God did it! xD

  • My questions about Christianity are mostly geographical. Why did God only reveal his Word to one small corner of the globe? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the writings of the bible were by and large made by many different people over many years who were all essentially in the same place? Why are there no Chinese Gospels or Samoan or Inuit or Celtic etc. Why did God allow all these peoples to live so long in darkness? It has taken 2000 years for Christianity to disseminate to - - -

  • - - - its current global distribution of about 33% (is this right? I'm not sure).

    It seems to be a gamble. If I was born in Saudi Arabia I would believe what my Parents and Community leaders told me about how the World works. Doesn't that fact diminish the power of "free will" to choose or reject Jesus Christ as Saviour?

  • God revealed himself to early man .

    their choices after knowing have passed to their offspring.

  • Can you please tell me more about that?

  • look up

    chineese characters and the genesis account.

    All peoples at one time knew about God .

    because of mans nature to exaggerate one truth became 1000's of stories.

    But parts of the true story can be found in every culture.

    we all come from an original few. They knew the story and passed it down.

    God choose israel to carry the truth and he kept them under strict standards so the truth would no be lost .

  • O by the way

    another GREAT video Brock

    5 stars

  • This shouldn't even be debatable, I mean, the catholic church apologized, we know they did these kind of things.

  • Timothy 3:12

    "In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse deceiving and being deceived."

  • At 777 views I must declare the atheists cauliflowered ears damaged beyond repair, and although the old washed fighter is was in reality finished before he ever stepped into the ring.

    Now with swollen shut eyes the hapless plodder sits slumped in his corner, and with his Darwinian cut-man unable to stem the flow of blood of the once proud old has been, someone should question the character and motivation of a manager who would let his pug continued to get slaughtered.

  • seekerofgod77777, could you stop being a moron plz?

  • You First

  • So I see you do see that you're acting like a moron, nice.

  • I know you are but what am I? heh heh :)

    Even more sub moronic are you stupid atheists complaining endlessly while The Subject matter at hand has absolutely nothing to do with you, and will proceed unimpeded by the product of your puny minds.

    What continues to escape you dumb atheists is that Brock doesn't consider your putrid opinions worthy of a response. It Should bother you because you're a bunch of malcontented misanthropes crying for recognition in a venue where you have no relevance :P

  • Wow, you're such a failure. So you paint with a brad brush here and think of yourself as someone who is smart....that makes me laugh.

    The funny thing is we don't think brock is a smart person and have shown him for the dishonest prick that he is and to contiue to follow him, shows how much of a sheep you are. You should be crying right now, because you can't defend your master, because his evil has already been shown, thus you're a moron that contiues to follow him.

  • If you idiots "don't think Brock is a smart person" blah blah, then why direct so many pointless questions at him that go unnoticed.

    You're just beating your little chests in a fruitless effort to assert a semblance of relativity. No thinking person regards puny intellects much less the opinions of self absorbed atheists.

    Your attempts at attention getting are tiresome, tedious, unoriginal and would be too embarrassing for any thoughtful and right thinking individual to post publicly.

  • We direct the questions because we know he has no answer for them.

    You know, kind of like how you say all men are equally evil except for Tiller who is more evil than everyone else but your mom has never committed a sin in her entire life.

    I'm waiting for you to go kill the other two abortionists, by the way. What's the matter, are you a coward?