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@addiktion13 Still, the reason he held the attacks of was becouse of the sentry block. In fact, it shuts off any early attack, which makes the game to skip to midgame, where Colossus can get out, which makes it harder. Also, the lack of an early AA is an problem for Zerg. Nerf force field and I'm happy.
@1schwererziehbar1 yep, i was wondering that myself, how dose a player as good as idea whom is makeing his way in alot of tournies, but i have NEVER seen a game were he wins
ZvP TvP another story this Video shows some of the problems most Zerg players have to majorly deal with from a Ptoss player right now and that build is very very effective aganst zerg almost no real good way to counter it due to the fact of how fast the void rays appear on the map, and i honestly dont want to hear Ptoss players complaining about some terran ghost cause in all honesty a zerg player can complain about every units terran and ptoss have just how the game is and how the races are
I think zerg has very weak anti Air. Atleast early game. Hydras are good vs air. But they are really squishy vs every thing really. Not to mention the tier 3 units of Zerg. Ultralisk = awesome. but brood lord and the parasite thing.. cant even remember what it is called, are never used in pro games. That to me looks like a balance issue. But I dont know enough about the other races to judge it quiet yet.
@XtraXtable Hydralisks are FIRE SUPPORT/AA for the roaches, which are the tank unit for Zerg.
FYI ....the INFESTOR is a great unit, IF the enemy has big units like battlecruisers or thors and it's fungal growth slows units.
The broodlord is also REALLY strong, once used in conjunction with an ARMY, it's a support unit used as flying artillery. Please don't judge what you don't understand.
All IdrA had to do was throw down a friggin EVO chamber(which takes like no time at all) then throw up a couple damn spore crawlers.... end of story. Trying to get mass queen is USELESS because phoenix are pumped vs queen.
I hate it when players leave right when they think that they've lost, denying the spectators the chance to see the battle. It's anti-climatic and hurts Starcraft 2 as an esport.
Btw Ace is not even high-rated in South Korea...He is just middle-class protoss in here...in minor league (Code A) lmao.
Well These IEM matches show middle class South Koreans are way better than other continent's 'best players' lol (even better than North American champion IDRA)
Why are you guys arguing over races being overpowered? Do you have any idea how much money Blizzard spends on the game? Do you know how much time is spent making the races balanced?
With all due respect to IdrA, that pencil-necked whitey, maybe you should think about a career change, you never gonna win another tourney as long as AcE is around foo!
I think Idra actually DID counter the build Ace went, his only mistake was trying to go for the expo. He should have just sniped the main as soon as he got in at 5:30, then retreated with his army while making a bunch of queens to hit the void rays that were following his army until he could get out hydras. It was just unfortunate that he lost all those roaches and lings for nothing against the first void ray.
i think its so funny when people think its balanced becuz its not... people just dont play z becuz it has to many loop holes... how many players play z in gsl?...
@LaPicturesque Ands its generally only when people use cheesy tactics. Idra obviously realized his loss was due to a better executed strategy which hasn't been counted by zerg yet.
Cast more AcE game!!s! Hes such an amazing player that's not getting enough attention in our community
He understands that a progressed game macro'd zerg becomes too strong and has a genius way of ending it before it reaches that point, not to mention using several tactics to ensure hes not out macro'd early game
They need to debuff the toss army slower air and ground units for ex or how bout smaller force fields? Or how bout both? No matter who you are you could probably beat any zerg player basically using that build don't know bout Terran but think it wouldn't cause of marines
@Zony1 Code A has become super competitive and I won't be surprised to see many Code S players witching spots with Code A'ers in the upcoming up/down matches. Many SC1 B-Teamers are switching to SC2 and the BETA'ers / War3'ers who got COde S in open season will soon be outclassed.
God, protoss pisses me off 100x more then terran. Im zerg and, I know that reapers are OP over zerg ground, and that bio ball is so easy to make and is also so powerfull, but toss? God damn. Zeal rush is really hard to deal with, voids are really hard to deal with, and unless you tech air, your fucked against colossus, because zerg is all about numbers. Its just terrible how much a zerg player has to outplay the other races.
infestors would be nice against this but then again it would take 5 fungal growth to take down a phoenix but the infested terran could speed that up and even if a couple get into the air they are still armored so high reward low risk and its on the way to hive tech so good late game to
@masterscheme1 ure joking me, FB range < ghost emp by so much , not to mention ghost is way faster than HT, also, FYI, ghost emp AoE(2) is larger than that of storm(1.5), "emp doesnt have that much area" <-- this statement is so wrong.
@atrisX Templar = 50 min 150 gas , Storm cost 75 mana -> 80 damage to everything
Ghost = 100 min , 200 gas , EMP cost 75 mana -> 100 damage to shields(only shields) and reduces mana of enemies to 0 I've NEVER seen emp win a pro game. I have however seen high templar spammed and win the game for the toss when they are down like 60 supply. I've also never ever heard any pro complain about the current emp especially not high level toss. Ghost are not spammed so you guys are crazy.
@masterscheme1 First of all, do u actually play protoss ? Cause im a random player. There is a few thing about ghost that i think it is a bit tough for protoss to deal with. (no one rush ghost against a toss, this is suicidal)
1. ghost's emp does not require a research while psi storm does.
2. ghost is much faster
3. ghost has a natural attacking ability , unlike HT ( u can combine 2 of them into archon but marauder kite them so bad )
@Veloh15 My comment was a response to a another one, that claimed that ghost were overpowered against protoss and way better than the protoss equivalent, High Templar. I just responded to every point he made.
@Linkfanoftheyear i never said storms are useless so that is not following the same logic, i was merely pointing out things which a previous commenter seemed to hvae forgotten about.. also i followed up this comment with "to clarify my comment, i dont think ghosts are better. i think its balanced. so stop bullshitting". im not saying its imba im saying its balanced. please read more carefully
@CRACKLiiNG yeah but you can see an emp coming storms have no warning, besides do you know how many games on this very channel have protoss players win games with one well placed storm? sure you can run out of a storm but it does WAAAAAAAAY more damage than an emp
@Linkfanoftheyear wow you're an idiot. what you said was so wrong im not sure if you're even trolling? emp has more range, and a larger Area of effect, as well as the face that you cant see it coming..... at least if you can, ive never once seen anything to indicate its coming, as it is either very fast or it doesnt exist. and LOL, emp actually does more damage than storm, so please actually do your research before you make up facts. Also emp not only does shields but energy making it FAR better
@Lucky466 ive seen replays where a group of infestors dodge 6 emp in a row dont give me that "you cant see it coming" crap and no it doesnt have a larger area of effect, storms do damage outside the cirlcle that pops up when youre casting you fucking idiot, and no emp does not do more damage if you forcrefeild and use a storm you can kill every marine in a terran army. ive seen proffestional gamers do that exact same thing. And emp only does more damage than storm TO MASSIVE UNITS
@Lucky466 part 2. because everything else has less than 100 shieilds you idiot. thats like saying if every terran unit had no energy feedback would still be overpowered because of how much damage it does (not that its op dont get me wrong i dont think that) storm will do full damage to everything regardless of armoured, light, how much health the thing has (unless its a marine then it just dies) take a zealot for example you hit a zealot with an emp it does 50 damage, not 100. stalkers 80
@Lucky466 i dont know what made you think that emp has a bigger area of effect but it doesnt, terran armies dont clump as much as toss and you can fully engulf them with 2 storm, then when they run out, two more storm. ive seen professional games where entire armies are killed with chainstorms. you can not do permanent damage with emp, and many protoss units, such as stalkers, can simply run away and let their sheilds regenerate, in fact thats what professional gamers do they just back off
@Linkfanoftheyear wow dude. not only are you wrong AGAIN, as emp does have a larger aoe (Please look up your numbers), but toss armies dont really clump up any more than terran armies. in fact terran clump up the most (marines) next to a zerg who masses lings. and also, EMP is INSANT, so with one, two shots the entire army is at half health and 0 energy, unlike P needing about 4 storms to get the damage of one concentrated storm. dont bother replying to this as i see ur making up half ur "facts"
@Lucky466 the range on the casting icon is smaller but its effect has a larger radius play the game and youll see that dont bs me about how the radiuses are 1.5 and 2. and emp is instant yes but it does NO PERMANENT DAMMAGE i cant stack emp and kill an entire army but all you have to do is have storm last 2 seconds on a marine ball. 2 ingame seconds, 4 ff and one storm can kill every marine in a terran army. and btw the fact that terran clumps up more HELPS MY ARGUMENT
@Linkfanoftheyear Fail. nobody just randomly EMPs an army and leaves it. and also terran have medivacs anyway far before toss has storm, which heal faster or could lift up infantry in the case of a storm
you must have forgot that EMP doesnt work on 90% of zerg units so its only good against infestors and all toss units
and well, if im not 100% wrong feedback can 1shot medivacs, ravens and deal nice damage against BCs (which no one ever uses) and storms force the enemy to move or studderstep atleast = there´s not so much damage incoming and well emps are very nice but still not required against toss, mainly due to marauders fucking up gateway units
@olentattimies emp is actually mostly requires. if your at army disadvanatage you can cut the shields of whole toss army and all you have to do is attack half of time as you would do with shielded toss making ti extremely easy
@SimpsonEE You seem pretty good at spinning the truth.
1. You can't kill with EMP, only take half of an entire group of unit's health! Oh let's not forget the natural Ghosts attack +Snipe, those don't do real damage i guess? Oh wait.
2. You can't warp in HT's 'anywhere', only where there are pylons placed, ie generally the protoss BASE !?! Or at proxy pylons if you are dumb enough to let a toss put them everywhere.
3. Archons are made by combining 2 DTs or 2 HTs, both VERY expensive units.
@SimpsonEE your stupid. hopefully you realized how stupid you are 9 months later.
So you can't kill a unit with EMP, but you can take out all of its energy and it's shields? Also there's something called snipe nooby. You can warp in HT-s anywhere... well their slow... archons have a natural attacking ability.... it has 350 shield hp... emp much? HT HAS FEEDBACK? THATS ONE OF YOUR REASONS TOO? HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUNNY. okay sir, feedback is the same as EMP except EMP can target infinite amounts
@atrisX EMP does damage only to shields. Most toss units don't have that many shields and toss has bigger units and fewer of them, which makes AOE less usefull against toss. Not only that, but a toss can one shot ghosts with feedback (and ravens and medivacs, and a lot of dmg to bc's) HT's come in ALOT faster that ghosts, and one storm on top of a bunch of rines is alot harder to deal with that an emp which barely takes out 30% of the durability of maybe half the army.
@Youcansuckme69 First, ghosts do not just take away shields, they take away energy. Second, i said many times...ghost's cast range >>>> HT's cast range.. how can a HT possibly FB a ghost if the terran do not make a mistake. Third, one ghost can disable many HTs ( yea i can split the HTs, as well u can split your emps ). Fourth, how can HT come in faster than ghost, this is so wrong, HT is a T3 unit and u need to at least to get the psi-storm upgrade to make it useful.
@atrisX First of all, if you want to counter ghost with HT, you use feedback not psi storm, which doesn't need research. If you don't see how the HT will be more numerous that ghosts, go watch any sc2 game with ghosts and ht's in it. And if one ghost has enough energy for more than 1 EMP, its because he scouted you out a while ago, built the ghosts a while ago, and now is sitting and waiting, which is your fault.
@Youcansuckme69 do u read me or have u ever tried to FB a ghost with HT?
if u ever FB ghosts with HT, your oppoent is not a very good T. Why? the range of EMP is 9 compare to FB's 6 or so (not to mention its AoE while u need to target individual unit with FB) , if a terran let a HT to FB his ghost before he can cast his EMP (in which the HT need to walk a range of 3 with its slow as hell speed and HT can not be cloaked) ,he needs more practice.
@Youcansuckme69 Also, how often do u see BCs in 1v1s? And marines are easily the most cost-efficient T1 units, HT is T3 and they are suppose to counter rines. i dont care ghost takes out 30% of my army, its the energy that i need to survive. 2 emps, 30% shield and energy gone, back off and wait for shield regneration?? no, because no FF to prevent an MMM-ball to stim, a-move and kill my army
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BaleyJorgenson383 1 month ago
and if its a girl big dick up
Andretti2012 3 months ago
any1 is trying to find where SimpsonEE's comment is -_-
dmanibear 3 months ago
<3 ace
traxgod2 4 months ago
I'm digging the AcE vids, good to see strong Toss play. Appreciate the ups Husky.
ADiPOSiTYv2 6 months ago
fuck you pitbull
Sebastian781 6 months ago
"Oh brother, that's gonna suck"
blitzforthewin 7 months ago
i LOVE doing a phoenix zerg harass
zitiwalksaw 7 months ago
Wow, so many arguments going on in this comment section. Chill out folks :) there is no need to go all hellion blue flame on each other ;p
Decogon 7 months ago
does this still work for protoss
goku123super 7 months ago
lol Idra sucked in the 1st and 2nd game :P or Ace is too good for him :D
TTTexanas 8 months ago
what does proxy pylon mean? i get mind fuckd for not knowing it D:
Exoddusss 9 months ago
@Exoddusss A proxy pylon's a pylon put outside the base (closer to the enemy's base) just to warp in gateway units and have less distance to travel.
ulfy01 8 months ago
Ace got smarts :P
Blazingwheel 9 months ago
in the end themost powerfull unit in the game = High Templar
Roshan3L 9 months ago
What would happen to Ace if he got 8 pooled? He wouldn't have a wall off at that point would he?
Deronoth 9 months ago
1080p ftw
GOcgyFLAMESgo 9 months ago
heh actually i have had sex in an elevator... it was a lot of fun!
kayla4men9321 9 months ago
Idra losing in a husky cast. who didn't see that coming.
husky starcraft: fair and balanced.
rhodric 9 months ago
I don't mind the ads... but why do they ALWAYS put makeup ads on SC2 videos? Great way to advertise to your audience.
xobballox 10 months ago
another game of toss OP
foxclown 10 months ago
It always makes me happy to see Idra lose his matches, I don't like him for abit.
Ace is, is just ace in what he is doing :)
M1710 10 months ago
You forget about the best caster there :D Rotterdam :D
KillSomthing 11 months ago
@iceicecherry You must play bronze or something.
1. micro aoe gets better
2. shield is not damage in a conflict?
3. faster speed makes it easier to micro.
4. Shorter spell duration is favorable because it increases dps. Look at the fungal growth buff.
ViciousZeroEnder 11 months ago
to clarify my comment, i dont think ghosts are better. i think its balanced. so stop bullshitting
Kylesmyle 11 months ago
Feedback should require research. Toss having shields makes it better than feedback damage, especially when terrans emp themselves.
c0mmissar1 11 months ago
ONE of the best to ever command a brood of the swarm.
PrinceOsiris 11 months ago
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YourSweetPotato 11 months ago
dam i was raging for idra for those gay phoenixs
imilkdude 11 months ago
@addiktion13 Still, the reason he held the attacks of was becouse of the sentry block. In fact, it shuts off any early attack, which makes the game to skip to midgame, where Colossus can get out, which makes it harder. Also, the lack of an early AA is an problem for Zerg. Nerf force field and I'm happy.
Fiifty 11 months ago
Finally we're seeing players who actually focus on micro like Ace and Moon.
All these dumb ppl talking about this unit beats that unit are clearly morons who can't play worth sh1t.
ihateuutube 11 months ago
@udlock9 Ace won the IEM tourney
CWADxD 11 months ago
who won the iem tourney?
udlock9 11 months ago
to this day i have not seen idra wining at least once
masqsupporter 11 months ago
Oh great, another op race shit storm.
No strategy can counter godly micro/macro. Work on that before you cry to Blizzard kids.
SolRosenberg84 11 months ago
To continue,
SC2 certainly isn't perfectly balanced, but I think there's very little that's unbearably imba right now (esp. in PvT).
just my 2 cents.
ZoSoWizard 11 months ago
Anyone notice idra said gg?
Aznboy4500 11 months ago
just bcuz thr s a great player who plays protoss so amazingly doesnt mean the race is op. it was first terran and now protoss....really?!
chongup 11 months ago
still waiting for a game that idra wins.
1schwererziehbar1 11 months ago
@1schwererziehbar1 yep, i was wondering that myself, how dose a player as good as idea whom is makeing his way in alot of tournies, but i have NEVER seen a game were he wins
arixiess 11 months ago
idra is a little bitch
Elim777 11 months ago
@Elim777 Big. Big bitch.
StJohn404 11 months ago
ZvP TvP another story this Video shows some of the problems most Zerg players have to majorly deal with from a Ptoss player right now and that build is very very effective aganst zerg almost no real good way to counter it due to the fact of how fast the void rays appear on the map, and i honestly dont want to hear Ptoss players complaining about some terran ghost cause in all honesty a zerg player can complain about every units terran and ptoss have just how the game is and how the races are
winfield66 11 months ago
Wow, extremely mature of Idra. I'm proud of my fave zerg player =)
zizou10ronaldinho 11 months ago 14
@zizou10ronaldinho Lmao.
ulfy01 8 months ago
@zizou10ronaldinho ace beaten him very good
traxgod2 4 months ago
I think zerg has very weak anti Air. Atleast early game. Hydras are good vs air. But they are really squishy vs every thing really. Not to mention the tier 3 units of Zerg. Ultralisk = awesome. but brood lord and the parasite thing.. cant even remember what it is called, are never used in pro games. That to me looks like a balance issue. But I dont know enough about the other races to judge it quiet yet.
XtraXtable 11 months ago
@XtraXtable Hydralisks are FIRE SUPPORT/AA for the roaches, which are the tank unit for Zerg.
FYI ....the INFESTOR is a great unit, IF the enemy has big units like battlecruisers or thors and it's fungal growth slows units.
The broodlord is also REALLY strong, once used in conjunction with an ARMY, it's a support unit used as flying artillery. Please don't judge what you don't understand.
rocksparadox 8 months ago
All IdrA had to do was throw down a friggin EVO chamber(which takes like no time at all) then throw up a couple damn spore crawlers.... end of story. Trying to get mass queen is USELESS because phoenix are pumped vs queen.
staphinfection 11 months ago
@staphinfection either that or spire into muta...he had enough time
Tolstoievsky 11 months ago
I hate it when players leave right when they think that they've lost, denying the spectators the chance to see the battle. It's anti-climatic and hurts Starcraft 2 as an esport.
TooMuchZerging 11 months ago
i couldn't stop staring at the minimap since 1:53
Probe vs Drone so fun :D
GunSwordGrave 11 months ago
Idra could try to actually build units that can hit air, crazy right? and this wasn't a TvP game so stop arguing Terran/Toss balence whiners.
Al0neStillAlive 11 months ago
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Btw Ace is not even high-rated in South Korea...He is just middle-class protoss in here...in minor league (Code A) lmao.
Well These IEM matches show middle class South Koreans are way better than other continent's 'best players' lol (even better than North American champion IDRA)
fenixssanai2 11 months ago
Poor IdrA
Headcoachh 11 months ago
Why are you guys arguing over races being overpowered? Do you have any idea how much money Blizzard spends on the game? Do you know how much time is spent making the races balanced?
I'm pretty sure it's all about the better player.
djpurpleacid 11 months ago
could somebody call the police? coz i think a little white boy just got butt-raped!
thoeezheeah 11 months ago
With all due respect to IdrA, that pencil-necked whitey, maybe you should think about a career change, you never gonna win another tourney as long as AcE is around foo!
thoeezheeah 11 months ago
With all do respect to IdrA, maybe you should think about a new career. How you gonna win another tourney with AcE in the house fool?
thoeezheeah 11 months ago
OWNED, BONED AND DE-THRONED!
thoeezheeah 11 months ago
AcE is da MAN!
thoeezheeah 11 months ago
All anti air units: (does not include static defenses)
terran: marine, viking, thor, battlecruiser, ghost,
zerg: queen, hydras, mutas, corrupter, infestor (fungal growth)
protoss: stalker, sentry, phonex, mothership, hightemplar(psi storm), voidray, carrier
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MarcoandAlexTV 11 months ago
cast more on ace! =[) he is so good O_o
DominanceOfFate 11 months ago
Wow, Ace just completely outplayed and dominated Idra!
KekadinWoods 11 months ago
R.I.P. Shakuras Plateau
Kadeerthejanitor 11 months ago
Does anyone know if this is the WC3 99% 2000+ games "Ace" ??? on uswest (now owned by another person who dropped the % by a few points.
ATB990 11 months ago
i nerdgazmd at 5:17...
danieljkmorrison123 11 months ago
I think Idra actually DID counter the build Ace went, his only mistake was trying to go for the expo. He should have just sniped the main as soon as he got in at 5:30, then retreated with his army while making a bunch of queens to hit the void rays that were following his army until he could get out hydras. It was just unfortunate that he lost all those roaches and lings for nothing against the first void ray.
angpetru 11 months ago
Idra should have thrown down spore crawlers right when he saw those void rays. What the heck was he thinking.
madpostman 11 months ago
love that since I saw this
I havn't lost to zerg with my pheonix flock :D
AndrewReilyy 11 months ago
zerg needs some sort of AA unit that it can build before void rays because, as shown in this video, queens are not good enough
grahamdube89 11 months ago
Ace is lookn scary...
930Paco 11 months ago
I looked up IEM and it came up Incredible Expanding Mindfuck
DarenHD 11 months ago
I hate to break it to you Husky, but you have to be smart to be a nerd.
FatPointScheme 11 months ago
This opener is unstoppable ATM. All toss are going to do this and then Pvz is gonna be imba :( forcefeilds
Wantstowincontest 11 months ago
@Wantstowincontest
Im sure you thought 6 pools were balanced though...
and if you watched the video
mass roach almost worked but he countered it with force fields at the perfect time.
x0f0t0 11 months ago
"what do you think of force fields?"
"balanced"
"ofc"
Covaxius 11 months ago
Awesome type of Protoss gameplay. Much more fun than the Protoss ball which has become so commonplace.
LyricalDJ 11 months ago
Ace is legendary Warcraft 3 player, That's what they said on the IEM
mafiapeet1992 11 months ago
1,2,3,4,5... plus these many hydras... :D
Jagorvenator 11 months ago
Not enough Idralisks
rjlas7 11 months ago
idra's overrated
rjlas7 11 months ago
idra actually gg'd AGAIN!! maybe the world IS becoming a better place :)
iamscythe 11 months ago
Husky should be a wcg commentator.
rjlas7 11 months ago
<3 ACE ACE ACE
sirpalm2632 11 months ago
Yo Husky wer the nerd alert songs I WANT MOOOOOORE love ur vids! :)
ausanimefan 11 months ago
intel is the best!!
phillips411 11 months ago
Aces brain is overpowered.
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spinuna 11 months ago
I dont really like protoss, or PVZ, but Ace, i gotta tell you, you have 1 more fan.
Alientcp 11 months ago
Protoss=overpowered hardcore
wwc10 11 months ago
@wwc10 i'm sorry what?? did i just hear protoss and overpowered in the same sentence... i think you need some therapy :/
JJR202 11 months ago 29
@JJR202 hahaha yeah i know right?!? protoss just keeps getting nerfed update after update....
yfzrider13 11 months ago
@JJR202
Protoss are NOT overpowered :3
owned x]
JShawtyKim 11 months ago
@JJR202 protoss IS overpowered
flectz 11 months ago
@flectz by who's standards?
thedarklordx 11 months ago
@thedarklordx most GOOD zergs and terrans agree.
flectz 11 months ago
@flectz 99% of people who say anything is OP regardless of who they are or what they are talking about are just saying it because they cant beat it
thedarklordx 11 months ago 2
@thedarklordx well no shit? yes, i admit i cant beat a toss lategame, because theyre op as fuck.
flectz 11 months ago
@flectz fag
olig8242 11 months ago
@flectz toss arent OP you just suck
unless your a zerg player or something, but what did you expect when you play the worst race in the game?
thedarklordx 11 months ago
i think its so funny when people think its balanced becuz its not... people just dont play z becuz it has to many loop holes... how many players play z in gsl?...
AnthonyL954 11 months ago
OMG ! how to stop this as a Zerg
s10023390 11 months ago
IdrA doesn't usually rage in tournament settings.
Only ladder games.
He may be occasionally BM, but he's a great player.
LaPicturesque 11 months ago
@LaPicturesque Ands its generally only when people use cheesy tactics. Idra obviously realized his loss was due to a better executed strategy which hasn't been counted by zerg yet.
SovCN 11 months ago
I gotta learn how to use phoenixes..damn!
ajmpinoywolf 11 months ago
expecting idrage...
and not getting any...
houchi69 11 months ago
idra sucks
maxtomious 11 months ago
@maxtomious I'm not a fan of Idra either cuz he's usually BM.
but no - he doesn't suck at SC. he's one of the best Zergs out there.
hate his BM but not his game
cuztomized 11 months ago
Blizzard should nerf ace.
Softcloner 11 months ago
pls, STOP giving IdrA any credits.
SleepingShaman 11 months ago
Idra not wining and saying GG? In what world we live in?!
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spinuna 11 months ago
my starcraft name is ace.... I'm proud of this identity theft
synthemyth40 11 months ago
i love when idra loses :)
uberpwnguin 11 months ago
THAT WAS SO IMBA ACE was too smart for idra
blizzard need to nerf ACE
nukstero 11 months ago
Cast more AcE game!!s! Hes such an amazing player that's not getting enough attention in our community
He understands that a progressed game macro'd zerg becomes too strong and has a genius way of ending it before it reaches that point, not to mention using several tactics to ensure hes not out macro'd early game
KizzleTheBump 11 months ago
great play by Ace really love this guy
kraeukai 11 months ago
corruptors are the only fucking air unit that can't damage ground units... wtf?
jjfz2000 11 months ago
@jjfz2000 medivacs?
INeeedSpoons 11 months ago
@INeeedSpoons
Troop transports need not apply.
jjfz2000 11 months ago
They need to debuff the toss army slower air and ground units for ex or how bout smaller force fields? Or how bout both? No matter who you are you could probably beat any zerg player basically using that build don't know bout Terran but think it wouldn't cause of marines
drakewar124 11 months ago
Nerf forcefields!
TheROFLchicken 11 months ago
@Zony1 Code A has become super competitive and I won't be surprised to see many Code S players witching spots with Code A'ers in the upcoming up/down matches. Many SC1 B-Teamers are switching to SC2 and the BETA'ers / War3'ers who got COde S in open season will soon be outclassed.
ppshchik 11 months ago
@eikiman10 Agree.
Lidlpirat 11 months ago
God, protoss pisses me off 100x more then terran. Im zerg and, I know that reapers are OP over zerg ground, and that bio ball is so easy to make and is also so powerfull, but toss? God damn. Zeal rush is really hard to deal with, voids are really hard to deal with, and unless you tech air, your fucked against colossus, because zerg is all about numbers. Its just terrible how much a zerg player has to outplay the other races.
DoityDeagle 11 months ago
@DoityDeagle learn to play.
eikiman10 11 months ago
Lol Protoss...
dellpcr 11 months ago
infestors would be nice against this but then again it would take 5 fungal growth to take down a phoenix but the infested terran could speed that up and even if a couple get into the air they are still armored so high reward low risk and its on the way to hive tech so good late game to
Kadazik 11 months ago
where did this AcE guy come from?! he's really good.
iagolima 11 months ago
rage or gtfo lol
kiwiterran1 11 months ago
really really really bad decision making by idra
nainqx 11 months ago
@masterscheme1 ure joking me, FB range < ghost emp by so much , not to mention ghost is way faster than HT, also, FYI, ghost emp AoE(2) is larger than that of storm(1.5), "emp doesnt have that much area" <-- this statement is so wrong.
atrisX 11 months ago
@atrisX Templar = 50 min 150 gas , Storm cost 75 mana -> 80 damage to everything
Ghost = 100 min , 200 gas , EMP cost 75 mana -> 100 damage to shields(only shields) and reduces mana of enemies to 0 I've NEVER seen emp win a pro game. I have however seen high templar spammed and win the game for the toss when they are down like 60 supply. I've also never ever heard any pro complain about the current emp especially not high level toss. Ghost are not spammed so you guys are crazy.
masterscheme1 11 months ago
@masterscheme1 First of all, do u actually play protoss ? Cause im a random player. There is a few thing about ghost that i think it is a bit tough for protoss to deal with. (no one rush ghost against a toss, this is suicidal)
1. ghost's emp does not require a research while psi storm does.
2. ghost is much faster
3. ghost has a natural attacking ability , unlike HT ( u can combine 2 of them into archon but marauder kite them so bad )
4. ghost has other ability like cloak and snipe
atrisX 11 months ago 22
@atrisX Yes, ghost are very good against high temps and and protoss in general, but not that good...
1. You can't kill a unit with EMP, you can with psi storm
2. You can warp in HT-s anywhere, ghosts have to run from the base
3. Archons have a natural attacking ability, but yeah... every unit has a counter.
4. HT has feedback
SimpsonEE 11 months ago 6
@SimpsonEE You really aren't putting this in perspective.
1. High templars are a tier 3 unit, ghosts are tier 2. Obviously one would assume that the tier 3 unit would be better.
2.High templars will face much larger armies than ghosts with more robust units, and the higher you go the less likely psi storm will be effective.
3.Also with a nuke a ghost can do far far more than any ONE high Templar's damage.
If you eally analyze ghosts are not better or worse they are different.
Veloh15 11 months ago 3
@Veloh15 My comment was a response to a another one, that claimed that ghost were overpowered against protoss and way better than the protoss equivalent, High Templar. I just responded to every point he made.
SimpsonEE 11 months ago
@SimpsonEE LOL EMP > Feedback for 3 reasons:
1. AOE attack
2. Greater Range
3. Ghosts are faster than HT
Feedback can't compare with EMP
ViciousZeroEnder 11 months ago
@SimpsonEE is that just the most one sided comment ever?
ht's can warp in anywhere, but they are much slower making them extremely diffucult to use
ghost can attack and do plenty of damage as part of your army, while ht's must warp into archons
feedback only works on units with energy, and only one at atime, while emp works on all toss units
and psi storms can easily be dodged. not to mention ghosts have cloak and assasinate. did you forget those?
Kylesmyle 11 months ago 13
@Kylesmyle by that same logic emps are useless because they can be easily dodged.
Linkfanoftheyear 7 months ago
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@Linkfanoftheyear i never said storms are useless so that is not following the same logic, i was merely pointing out things which a previous commenter seemed to hvae forgotten about.. also i followed up this comment with "to clarify my comment, i dont think ghosts are better. i think its balanced. so stop bullshitting". im not saying its imba im saying its balanced. please read more carefully
Kylesmyle 7 months ago
@Linkfanoftheyear No. Emp works instantly. Psi storm damages over time.. and therfore you can dodge its full effect.
CRACKLiiNG 7 months ago
@CRACKLiiNG yeah but you can see an emp coming storms have no warning, besides do you know how many games on this very channel have protoss players win games with one well placed storm? sure you can run out of a storm but it does WAAAAAAAAY more damage than an emp
Linkfanoftheyear 7 months ago
@Linkfanoftheyear wow you're an idiot. what you said was so wrong im not sure if you're even trolling? emp has more range, and a larger Area of effect, as well as the face that you cant see it coming..... at least if you can, ive never once seen anything to indicate its coming, as it is either very fast or it doesnt exist. and LOL, emp actually does more damage than storm, so please actually do your research before you make up facts. Also emp not only does shields but energy making it FAR better
Lucky466 6 months ago
@Lucky466 ive seen replays where a group of infestors dodge 6 emp in a row dont give me that "you cant see it coming" crap and no it doesnt have a larger area of effect, storms do damage outside the cirlcle that pops up when youre casting you fucking idiot, and no emp does not do more damage if you forcrefeild and use a storm you can kill every marine in a terran army. ive seen proffestional gamers do that exact same thing. And emp only does more damage than storm TO MASSIVE UNITS
Linkfanoftheyear 6 months ago
@Lucky466 part 2. because everything else has less than 100 shieilds you idiot. thats like saying if every terran unit had no energy feedback would still be overpowered because of how much damage it does (not that its op dont get me wrong i dont think that) storm will do full damage to everything regardless of armoured, light, how much health the thing has (unless its a marine then it just dies) take a zealot for example you hit a zealot with an emp it does 50 damage, not 100. stalkers 80
Linkfanoftheyear 6 months ago
@Lucky466 i dont know what made you think that emp has a bigger area of effect but it doesnt, terran armies dont clump as much as toss and you can fully engulf them with 2 storm, then when they run out, two more storm. ive seen professional games where entire armies are killed with chainstorms. you can not do permanent damage with emp, and many protoss units, such as stalkers, can simply run away and let their sheilds regenerate, in fact thats what professional gamers do they just back off
Linkfanoftheyear 6 months ago
@Linkfanoftheyear wow dude. not only are you wrong AGAIN, as emp does have a larger aoe (Please look up your numbers), but toss armies dont really clump up any more than terran armies. in fact terran clump up the most (marines) next to a zerg who masses lings. and also, EMP is INSANT, so with one, two shots the entire army is at half health and 0 energy, unlike P needing about 4 storms to get the damage of one concentrated storm. dont bother replying to this as i see ur making up half ur "facts"
Lucky466 6 months ago
@Lucky466 the range on the casting icon is smaller but its effect has a larger radius play the game and youll see that dont bs me about how the radiuses are 1.5 and 2. and emp is instant yes but it does NO PERMANENT DAMMAGE i cant stack emp and kill an entire army but all you have to do is have storm last 2 seconds on a marine ball. 2 ingame seconds, 4 ff and one storm can kill every marine in a terran army. and btw the fact that terran clumps up more HELPS MY ARGUMENT
Linkfanoftheyear 6 months ago
@Linkfanoftheyear Fail. nobody just randomly EMPs an army and leaves it. and also terran have medivacs anyway far before toss has storm, which heal faster or could lift up infantry in the case of a storm
Lucky466 6 months ago
@Kylesmyle
you must have forgot that EMP doesnt work on 90% of zerg units so its only good against infestors and all toss units
and well, if im not 100% wrong feedback can 1shot medivacs, ravens and deal nice damage against BCs (which no one ever uses) and storms force the enemy to move or studderstep atleast = there´s not so much damage incoming and well emps are very nice but still not required against toss, mainly due to marauders fucking up gateway units
olentattimies 5 months ago
@olentattimies emp is actually mostly requires. if your at army disadvanatage you can cut the shields of whole toss army and all you have to do is attack half of time as you would do with shielded toss making ti extremely easy
MaxFlared 5 months ago
@MaxFlared
its not 100% must that you have to get every time :p
olentattimies 5 months ago
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pepinozinanasshole 3 months ago
@SimpsonEE You seem pretty good at spinning the truth.
1. You can't kill with EMP, only take half of an entire group of unit's health! Oh let's not forget the natural Ghosts attack +Snipe, those don't do real damage i guess? Oh wait.
2. You can't warp in HT's 'anywhere', only where there are pylons placed, ie generally the protoss BASE !?! Or at proxy pylons if you are dumb enough to let a toss put them everywhere.
3. Archons are made by combining 2 DTs or 2 HTs, both VERY expensive units.
Big01Bill 10 months ago
@SimpsonEE HT's sound way better if you only say the things they can do and don't say anything about ghosts. just sayan.
TheOfficerCrayon 10 months ago
@SimpsonEE A ghost can send a nuke up yo ass though.
suicidewafflez 9 months ago
@SimpsonEE
Don't be so stupid and simple minded please. You can't psi storm if you've been EMPed
Ghosts have snipe
Ghosts can cloak
Ghosts can be healed my medevacs
eXhAwST 9 months ago
@SimpsonEE your stupid. hopefully you realized how stupid you are 9 months later.
So you can't kill a unit with EMP, but you can take out all of its energy and it's shields? Also there's something called snipe nooby. You can warp in HT-s anywhere... well their slow... archons have a natural attacking ability.... it has 350 shield hp... emp much? HT HAS FEEDBACK? THATS ONE OF YOUR REASONS TOO? HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUNNY. okay sir, feedback is the same as EMP except EMP can target infinite amounts
Iphonecause 2 months ago
@atrisX But storm does 75 damage in a pretty damn big area.
Youcansuckme69 11 months ago
@Youcansuckme69 storm does 80 damage to HP with an AoE of 1.5
EMP does 100 damage to shield with an AoE of 2.0
yea shield can regenerate, but not in a huge battle, also emp takes away all energy
i dun wanna talk about this anymore, i just think equalizing the range of emp and fb range would be nice.
atrisX 11 months ago
@atrisX EMP does damage only to shields. Most toss units don't have that many shields and toss has bigger units and fewer of them, which makes AOE less usefull against toss. Not only that, but a toss can one shot ghosts with feedback (and ravens and medivacs, and a lot of dmg to bc's) HT's come in ALOT faster that ghosts, and one storm on top of a bunch of rines is alot harder to deal with that an emp which barely takes out 30% of the durability of maybe half the army.
Youcansuckme69 11 months ago
@Youcansuckme69 your stupid, emp does dmg to energy and shields
ImmortaLTech1423 11 months ago
@Youcansuckme69 First, ghosts do not just take away shields, they take away energy. Second, i said many times...ghost's cast range >>>> HT's cast range.. how can a HT possibly FB a ghost if the terran do not make a mistake. Third, one ghost can disable many HTs ( yea i can split the HTs, as well u can split your emps ). Fourth, how can HT come in faster than ghost, this is so wrong, HT is a T3 unit and u need to at least to get the psi-storm upgrade to make it useful.
atrisX 11 months ago
@atrisX First of all, if you want to counter ghost with HT, you use feedback not psi storm, which doesn't need research. If you don't see how the HT will be more numerous that ghosts, go watch any sc2 game with ghosts and ht's in it. And if one ghost has enough energy for more than 1 EMP, its because he scouted you out a while ago, built the ghosts a while ago, and now is sitting and waiting, which is your fault.
Youcansuckme69 11 months ago
@Youcansuckme69 do u read me or have u ever tried to FB a ghost with HT?
if u ever FB ghosts with HT, your oppoent is not a very good T. Why? the range of EMP is 9 compare to FB's 6 or so (not to mention its AoE while u need to target individual unit with FB) , if a terran let a HT to FB his ghost before he can cast his EMP (in which the HT need to walk a range of 3 with its slow as hell speed and HT can not be cloaked) ,he needs more practice.
atrisX 11 months ago
@Youcansuckme69 To me, my ghosts can only be FBed if my oppoent protoss's HTs are on high ground ( which i dont have sight of )
atrisX 11 months ago
@Youcansuckme69 Also, how often do u see BCs in 1v1s? And marines are easily the most cost-efficient T1 units, HT is T3 and they are suppose to counter rines. i dont care ghost takes out 30% of my army, its the energy that i need to survive. 2 emps, 30% shield and energy gone, back off and wait for shield regneration?? no, because no FF to prevent an MMM-ball to stim, a-move and kill my army
atrisX 11 months ago