This is stupid all theses comments are stupid as hell... To simply.put it if u put both of them in their right elements they woild win... If Inoki was told to just box against Ali he would have lost, n if Ali was told to wrestle or mma with Inoki he would have lost.. Nuff said
At any time Inoki could defeat Ali, when Ali is knocked down Inoki the referee could have destroyed it nevertheless I take pity on of and it put it to happen from the first roud for what indisputably Inoki habria conquered to Ali that as Boxer was good but not tape-worm nothing that to face a fighter of Inoki's size
Then why did they make so many restrictions for Inoki ,Ali had no restrictions and was told to let his hand go.Inoki was told he wasn't allowed to take ali down,or use his fist when standing,only open hand strikes, he couldn't hit ali on the ground or try to submit him,basically he was only aloowed to slap the best boxer alive while ali boxed himi
Ali was free to let his hands go,Inoki wasn't allowed to use his fist,he was only allowed to slap ali on his feet, he wasn't allowed to go for a takedone,he wasn't allowed to hit ali on the ground wasn't submit ali,at anytime ali could touch the rope and Inoki had to let him up. .keep in mind ali was the best boxer in the world at the time, and Inoki was basically told he was only allowed to slap box ali while ali boxed him, whichis completeluy unfair, so think about that before you diss inoki
LOL Why are we acting like this is a real fight? 'Why would Ali risk injuring in going all out against Inoki? He has nothing to gain. His body is his livelihood and boxing is where he gets his big checks. Breaking his hand would sideline him. Ali really has no real incentive to try. Inoki on the other hand would want to prove himself against Ali. Inoki probably trained for this shit and I'm pretty sure Ali probably just showed up.
Throughtout his career Ali fought powerful men like Liston,Foreman and Frazier.What do you guys think,this crappy wrestler was more powerful than them.Just see haters what a big heart Ali had.He did not want to kill inoki in front of his own people so he agreed for a draw.
@ginnigreatest Wow you are just immature and misleading. Get real already. You have no idea how many restrictions they put on that Jap guy. Ali's camp even demanded the rules made public after the fight. What the fuck. See for yourself. Unless you yourself are a fraud.
To all Ali haters,can't you see that Japanese faggot Inoki was totally at Ali's mercy.If Ali wanted he could have gone to the mat and pound hm with his deadly punches but Ali did not do so b'coz he knew Inoki did not have that much strength to resist Ali's attack and would have died in the ring.
This was most definately a shoot (I.E real)...which is why is was so dull/bad. On an interesting side-note, Vince McMahon Jr. handled the North American promotion of the fight.
just shows how muhammed ali would get raped by any mma fighter, or wrestler or bjj practitioner back then. may be the best boxer but not the best fighter. and this is coming from a life long ali fan.
@manz92 life long fan born 20 years after ali lost most of his brain. Shut the fuck up kid, he was a boxer, if he trained for mma he would have probably be the best at it too. And this fight was one of the greatest jokes mankind has come up with since religion. Please get breast cancer or something.
@onokaoonokao damn, i hope that was a rage moment and you didnt mean that otherwise i see the devil coming for you anyhow, ali could have been good in mma, maybe but hes a boxer, and mma beats boxing simple.
@alphamonX Yeah it can happen bare-knuckled. I was just meaning the gloves though, when you still wrap your knuckles you'll rarely break them because the last two knuckles are secured tightly enough and won't slip.
You guy are dicksuckers like seriously...How can you possibly say Ali is a coward ?? He fought some of the greatest and hardest hitting punchers to ever get into a boxing ring..This fight was stupid and it also messed with Ali's boxing career because he has soars and shit on his legs after this fight...Half of you dont have half the heart Ali has...
this was a fixed fight its not real ali was supposed to acidently hit the ref and stand over him concernd and inoki was to kick ali in the face and ali fake knock out then loose the fight because of sucker kick but when ali heard he was going to loose he wanted a real fight then 6 days before the fight the rules were changed no grapling for inoki and ali no jabs or right hands just a couple of punches through out the fight this is not boxing vrs mma this is riged fight with no winner
Ali was past his prime. the fight was fixed from the beginning so Ali could get a $6million paycheck. it was supposed to be like a WWE match up, with a
predetermined out come. Why would Ali take a real match up against a grappler? A boxer can't beat a grappler bc a boxer has no ground game.
@lalamango1 Barely, this happen in 76 & he didn't fully retire from boxing until 81. This match originally was supposed to be a fix however once Ali found out he was supposed to lose he demanded it changed to actual competition. He accepted the bout because he was offered 6 million however demanded a huge list of limitations against Inoki which prohibited the wrestler from utilizing his dominate skill sets. Inoki wasn't allowed to even kick Ali without having one knee grounded.
this was a fake fight not real lots of rules on both sides ali could only jab inoki could only kick punch and tackle they had to go out of there syles to fight like this
@bussinful ...listen here .......the asian guy was on the floor most of the time so how would you hve done different than ALI........if the guy had always stayed on foot then im sure that AIwuld have knocked him out. besides ALI did get the last hit
@777digger777 You should see this .youtube.com/watch?v=oGNNJRU5bKM&feature=related
When Ali look Inoki training ,Ali afraid to Inoki.Ali demanded the rule from Inoki. Inoki cannot kick though stands. Inoki cannot use the technique of the joint. Inoki cannot use the elbow. And, because Ali was a chicken, the prohibition of the announcement of this rule was demanded. Inoki accepted a disadvantageous rule.
It might have been a good thing that these rules were so fucked up and confusing prior to to the fight. I think had they actually allowed it to be anything goes, Inoki would have either broke one of Ali's legs with a kick or injured him in some other way with his submissions. Then he wouldn't have a career left. Smart of Inoki to stay on his back though, kind of reminds me of Werdum lol.
@PunkHippie1971 Inoki doesnt stand a chance infront of muhammad Ali. The only reason this match ended as a tie was because Ali was wearing gloves, while Inoki was wearing heavy boots and punching with his fists.
Apparently these guys really hated each other. They decided to do it as shoot fight which is why it sucked. Inoki wouldn't box up because Ali would have knocked his head off. Ali wouldn't go to the ground because Inoki could have snapped every bone in Ali's body.
Or well, when u have some green stuff to smoke/eat etc i guarantee u a good exercise for ur abdominals, yea warning, big chance u get a tremendous laughing kick. it will kick in when Inoki's starts to .... "kick" ... (soccer tackle on the man-->> red card in the original sport)
Well, you don't even need the green stuff for a good laugh.
Anyone who thought Ali was just playing is bullshit. The reason he was smiling and laughing is a common sign of fighters when they get hurt and they're trying to counter react the pain with a facial expression that says opposite, it's almost an instinctual reaction to his injuries that put that fool in the hospital
@aziangirlluv You should see this .youtube.com/watch?v=oGNNJRU5bKM&feature=related
When Ali look Inoki training ,Ali afraid to Inoki.Ali demanded the rule from Inoki. Inoki cannot kick though stands. Inoki cannot use the technique of the joint. Inoki cannot use the elbow. And, because Ali was a chicken, the prohibition of the announcement of this rule was demanded. Inoki accepted a disadvantageous rule.
@isostar5 it wasn't a close fight, because Inoki beat the crap out of him. Ali was allowed to punch him anyway he want, he just didn't know ground and pound. The rules that were made were made by Ali to make the fight easier and protect him. Even with the rules he got OWNED
I said it wasn't a fight, i didn't say it was close.
Showboating vs the Soccer sliding/tackle
Is that fighting?
If he beat the crap out of Ali then Ali didn't carry any crap in him.
If i would have fought Ali those days, and he would only think i could wrestle well, i would have 'won' also, mister bean would have won and imagine, even you would win on ur own vision of this .
@isostar5 These were Ali's rules. You seem to forget that. Ali made the rules so he would be protected. Ali tried to make the fight easier for him. Ali was beat up so bad he was put in the hospital. Yeah, i'd say that was a beating :D
Ali made the rule that he wanted Inoki to be on the floor?
Weird very weird..
Ali did go to the hospital for an ointment for his damageded skin, yes ur right he could have bought it at a drug store..Ali, i never told he's tough..
Ever heard of a Low kick? I doubt it.. then you see real pain and damage, look it up if you don't believe me ;)
No didn't read the background, i only remembered it from seeing it on tv that time and i can't recall those rules.
I wasn't searching for this but when i did see it appear at the right in the 'Suggesties' (suggestions, i'm dutch ;) ) i remembered it a bit and clicked it.. this way i see lot of vids here, most of it..
please calm down, ronki23 doesn't look like a jackass AT ALL, he pointed out INCREDIBLY logical factors, and this match was a draw, so the implication that anyone lost is just foolish. Inoki didn't win, he squirmed around the whole time, and this match really isn't that special to fans outside of Japanese wrestling. Thats just the truth, this match is "significant to Inoki... thats it. Inoki may have "outlasted" Ali to a fool, but Ali never really touched him, cased closed. geez
@xIegionx it still means nothing-if he couldn't punch the guy when he was standing (something boxers are made for), it means little. However,i'm arguing with another guy called BigD on the video 'Muhammed Ali loses to a wrestler' and he says MMA is inferior to boxing and uses Mercer vs Sylvia as an example-he says Boxing has an 8-6 advantage to MMA. So i'm basically arguing for boxing on this vid and against it on that other vid lol
@ronki23 That was ali's fault who instigated the rules. It means Inoki kicked Ali's ass with handicap rules and would've decimated him with MMA rules. Thats just how much inoki owned ali
@xIegionx as other people say (in particular Big D)-he couldn't hit the guy when he was on the ground-Inoki himself said in an interview it'd be lights out if Ali hit him directly on the chin. I would hardly say Inoki owned Ali if Ali couldn't hit him when he was down so this match proves little except that MMA fighters have a bigger arsenal when on their backs
@xIegionx I'll believe that he could hit Inoki when he was on the ground when I hear an interview/see the rules. HOWEVER, it seems you want to drag Ali down at every opportunity-are you Japanese or a white supremacist that you hate Ali,a black American so much? Perhaps you're an islamaphobe?
Ali IS the greatest in boxing-yet you go around saying he sucks just because he 'lost' in a so-called MMA match.
@xIegionx Ali knew nothing of ground and pound? The same ground and pound that many MMA fights end up in? The same ground and pound many street fights end up in? The same ground and pound that NEANDERTHALS and GORILLAS know how to do? Ground and pound is one of the most natural things in a fight-how could Ali-the greatest boxer of all time, not know it >_> Ali could ground and pound but that'd be dumb because A) Boxing is a stand up fight style and B) Inoki knew how to grapple.
@xIegionx I don't know why you're judging the greatest boxer of all time on a fight where he couldn't hit a guy because that guy was on his back the whole time-Ali could punch down because of his long reach but power would be lacking. It was just as cowardly on Inoki's part for staying on his back-he could clinch/kick while standing if he wanted and even use standing grapples. This match proves little
@xIegionx I'll believe this 'loss' when it becomes popular-oh wait, it's not so people obviously think it proves nothing. MMA and Boxing are different sports with different rules. Even MMA is not the be-all-end-all of fighting. In a BOXING match, Ali would destroy Inoki.
You know there are fighters who outdo the the fitnesses of those celebrities you listed? ;/
Anyway; Ali may or may not have known what he was in for, however this event was ORIGINALLY going to be staged, like a pro-wrestling match. Ali wanted it tobea real fight, thus the handicap rules were put into action.
Ali needed special rules to fight Inoki. Inoki was only allowed to kick WHEN HE WAS ON HIS KNEES OR LOWER. Even with handicap rules, Ali was sent to the hospital. HA!
@xIegionx different ruleset/fighting system-his legs were not used to getting hit because he was a boxer- a boxer is obviously tough enough for MMA since he's getting hit in the face/body full contact but they prefer to box instead-of course if they wish to do MMA they need to train in it
@xIegionx it doesn't matter-Ali's trained in Boxing, not MMA- he doesn't have takedown defence or know how to defend against kicks because Boxing is hands only. Anyway, it was a draw and publicity stunt
@ronki23 Ali never looked at it like a publicity stunt even thought it was considered one, because Ali kept going on about how he was going to KO Inoki's big chin. If Ali knew it was a publicity stunt he wouldn't have gotten cocky. Even with his rules he lost. I call that hilarious and an achievement to proving why Ali wasn't the greatest.
@ronki23 It was called a draw because Ali couldn't take a loss to his career. By decision, clearly Inoki won that fight. Everyone said it, the "Greatest" couldn't handle the butt hurt of having a loss to a small japanese man
@xIegionx and with regards to that bit, Ali could obviously handle a loss because he was defeated by Joe Lewis and (near the end of his career), he lost two or three times more. Football and Rugby analogy
@ronki23 Ali actually claimed by the end of his career meaning his later losses were resulted in him not being in his prime and not fighting for the right reasons, etc etc, in other words an excuse for his losses which is why he didn't mind. But he could never have handled one (like this) in his prime. Anyone can clearly see Inoki won this. A lot of the fight was set up by his Managers, coaches, managers, agents etc. A lot of them told Ali there was no way he could win without the special rules
@xIegionx he probably couldn't but the rules are different-even if Inoki was standing Ali's legs would be shot. It just shows Inoki is an amazing fighter but it doesn't make Ali any less of a BOXER
@ronki23 But he's definitely much less of a fighter. Boxing is one aspect of fighting. Throwing kicks, grappling and all sorts an change the outcome of a fight, which is why in this case, clearly Ali was NOT the greatest at all. And his speech that NO one could beat him? I laugh at that.
@xIegionx of course it's only one aspect, he's the greatest for that only. If one were to make 'The Ultimate Fighter' via Frankenstein method, he'd have the speed of Ali, the power of Mike Tyson, the wrestling skill of Kurt Angle, the grappling skill of Royce Gracie, the fitness of Bruce Lee, and the kicks of Jean Claude van Damme. I also don't believe that Ali really meant half the stuff he said/I don't think he knew what he was in for.
@xIegionx I had a look at the match highlight-it proves little since Ali was clowning around most of the match e.g. holding the ropes and screaming and making funny faces. I also read Ali couldn't punch Inoki when he was on the ground and Inoki broke his foot from kicking Ali
@ronki23 Ali wasn't really clowning around. He was over confident. He thought he could knock Inoki out no problem because of Inoki's chin. Ali was getting kicked so badly he tried to make it sound like it was nothing, in other words "acting" like he wasn't hurt. NOPE, he was sent to the hospital. HA.
@ronki23 Inoki actually sprained it. Ali didn't know shit about the ground and pound or anything. His own handicap rules to help him win still cost him a lot.
@xIegionx In MMA he'd be good but not amazing- he'd win most of his fights due to his speed and stamina but of course he'd lose now and again. It's like saying someone who's good at football (soccer to Americans) isn't the greatest in Rugby because he didn't score a touchdown
@ronki23 hey i know xlegionx is a jerk but in the end he's correct. it's best you just not even comment anymore to prevent yourself from looking like a jackass
If the guy was able to do boots to the legs, they should've taken Ali's gloves off at least lol, just so it wouldn't look so dumb him trying to grab his feet with boxing gloves on
pretty cool, I heard about this match at least a decade ago on blackbelt mag. didn't know there was an actual video. As anyone ever heard the rumor that this fight was originally supposed to be between Ali and Bruce Lee but since Lee died in 73 they decided to go with Inoki?
@WillStLeger if ali wouldn't have nagged about the rules and would've fought on the initial wrestling rules, then Inoki wouldn't have done that. No tackle, no joint locks, no chops, kicks restricted to the upper side of the feet, no attacks to the torso or the neck... gee, I wonder why he had to do this to bring this match to a tie... fly like a pussy and sting like a mosquito
@nonynonyme Thing is, when standing, Inoki would have gotten pulverized. Ali's already beaten 2 other wrestlers with wrestling rules allowed. The fact Inoki lay on his back removed any possibility of Ali fighting back - he's the pussy. What would have been more manly? Staying up against the odds. What wasn't? Hitting the deck after your opening 2 attacks get dodged and remaining on the floor to make sure you score hits.
The fact Inoki tied, despite this blatant loophole, is pathetic.
@WillStLeger it all started when Ali said if any Asian man was up to have a match with him, and he was willing to go with wrestling rules at first. But somehow, the rules changed to almost the same as having a boxing match... now if Ali's the one looking for challenge, why would he have to change the rules so that ali would have complete advantage over his foes? is this not a... contradiction?
@nonynonyme actually it didn't. It started as a fixed fight. Look it up. Ali was planned to hit the ref, then get 'KO'd' by Inoki while helping the ref.
However, Ali didn't allow it, and, 2 days before changed the rules for whatever reason you want to believe.
It's not the same as boxing - Inoki throwing kicks everywhere - fighting off the ground.
Fact is, Ali, with very little time after believing this to be a fix, had no time to train, so the rules where changed to compensate.
@WillStLeger yeah, and why do you think Inoki had to throw kicks like that? Because the rules limited him to kick Ali in a designated way. If your kicks are limited, and your throws/joint locks limited, how do you not call this a boxing match designed for Ali? And you tell me that the rules were to compensate for his lack of time to prepare? bull shit he's been knowing about the match for the longest time, and you still say that he didn't have time?
@nonynonyme How do i not call this a boxing match? Someone can stay on the canvas and not get hit, while throwing kicks for easy points.
Face it, Inoki was clever to exploit this the way he did - clever of him do it and score a draw. But it's just plain obvious he would get wrecked standing up. Just watch the standing scenes again.
You clearly can't see it. I'm not making excuses for the rule change; tbh, i don't really care about it.
The fact is Ali ruled the standing game here. End of.
@SkemeKOS I'm the fool? In UFC, tell me, what do they do against boxers? Stand? No, they don't, they tackle em.
Take one guess why.
Boxers rule the standing game - undisputed fact. Please, actually watch the fight again, with an unbiased attitude. Inoki didn't follow those ridiculous kicking rules and still didn't land.
And KO Ali? Are you mad? One of the best chins in the history of boxing. George Foreman. 1 loss by TKO ever (when he was experiencing Parkinson's). Really?? Read up a bit mate.
@SkemeKOS boxers dont have a take down defense, because boxers dont get taken down. It's kinda simple really. Thats why this match should not be debated as who was best, rather what was the fucking point of a totally flawed idea. How many years later did it take for MMA to be formed? This match was an embarassment..but not to the men fighting..but to the dullards that set it in motion.
First - Inoki did not follow the rule - he didn't have 1 knee on the mat both times. I think that was the rule.
Second - Inoki did not land on him. Don't suggest I'm biased when you argue for a grappling sport's striking over a striking sport.
Third - Inoki's ability to KO or knockdown Ali is an important point nonetheless. Shame on you for not realizing. How else could Inoki rule a standing game?
@SkemeKOS Tackling is a weak argument to base yourself on. Tackling is a standing technique, no doubt. Though it leads to grappling, which, I'm afraid is rather out of place in a discussion regarding the standing game.
I'm right, Inoki's only chance is a submission. He'd get wrecked by Ali's speed.
Don't call me biased when you argue that wrestling - a predominantly grappling based sport - will triumph over a Pure striking sport in the standing game.
When someone resorts to 'LOL' as an appropriate response to an argument of any calibure, rest assured, you already know they're beat.
You need to grow up a bit if you can take yourself seriously.
I'm going to KCL, reading Pharmaceutical science, yet I'm stupid. Right. Good luck impressing others with your intimidating debating skills. ''LOL' ? Shame you turned out to be such a inconceivable - and childish - bigot.
@SkemeKOS Inoki drew with Ali, despite having the refuge of lying on the floor and scoring easy points.
How could someone like you possibly ignore this?
This, regardless of your extrapolations, sets in stone the fact Inoki cannot stand up with Ali. Ali - the man famed for his speed. Ali - the man Inoki couldn't hit when standing. Vs Inoki - the main that failed win with a cheap tactic.
Beither man could fully use their own style. Inoki by rules and Ali by cheat. Although we still have a draw.
@SkemeKOS4:45 watch, Inoki scores a grand total of 1/4 kicks. Both standing Kicks failing and 1 ground kick hitting. What a load. Even if Inoki was being inhibited by the rules - which he seemingly ignored with the first few kicks - what else could he have done? Shoot for a tackle and just fall over? Aim for a clinch and get dodged?
Your blatant disregard for this - let's face it - eye-opening scene in the fight shows just how much your bias has hazed your decision making.
To the top comment guy, would Ali really have just picked up wrestling and submissions like that? Yeah right!
garanzbrah 3 weeks ago
This is stupid all theses comments are stupid as hell... To simply.put it if u put both of them in their right elements they woild win... If Inoki was told to just box against Ali he would have lost, n if Ali was told to wrestle or mma with Inoki he would have lost.. Nuff said
thuggishtavo 1 month ago
This fight is just like Couture vs Toney it proves nothing.
MMAUpdater 2 months ago
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Occultaz 2 months ago
At any time Inoki could defeat Ali, when Ali is knocked down Inoki the referee could have destroyed it nevertheless I take pity on of and it put it to happen from the first roud for what indisputably Inoki habria conquered to Ali that as Boxer was good but not tape-worm nothing that to face a fighter of Inoki's size
ReyAfricano 2 months ago
Then why did they make so many restrictions for Inoki ,Ali had no restrictions and was told to let his hand go.Inoki was told he wasn't allowed to take ali down,or use his fist when standing,only open hand strikes, he couldn't hit ali on the ground or try to submit him,basically he was only aloowed to slap the best boxer alive while ali boxed himi
MMAsavedME 2 months ago
@MMAsavedME
ali has no restrictions? he was wearing gloves haha
quickmantan 2 months ago
Ali was free to let his hands go,Inoki wasn't allowed to use his fist,he was only allowed to slap ali on his feet, he wasn't allowed to go for a takedone,he wasn't allowed to hit ali on the ground wasn't submit ali,at anytime ali could touch the rope and Inoki had to let him up. .keep in mind ali was the best boxer in the world at the time, and Inoki was basically told he was only allowed to slap box ali while ali boxed him, whichis completeluy unfair, so think about that before you diss inoki
MMAsavedME 2 months ago
LOL Why are we acting like this is a real fight? 'Why would Ali risk injuring in going all out against Inoki? He has nothing to gain. His body is his livelihood and boxing is where he gets his big checks. Breaking his hand would sideline him. Ali really has no real incentive to try. Inoki on the other hand would want to prove himself against Ali. Inoki probably trained for this shit and I'm pretty sure Ali probably just showed up.
ajchikezie 2 months ago 6
@ajchikezie if ali went all out, it wont even last one minute, so no, it has no risk on his health whatsoever
broro100 2 weeks ago
Throughtout his career Ali fought powerful men like Liston,Foreman and Frazier.What do you guys think,this crappy wrestler was more powerful than them.Just see haters what a big heart Ali had.He did not want to kill inoki in front of his own people so he agreed for a draw.
ginnigreatest 2 months ago
@ginnigreatest Wow you are just immature and misleading. Get real already. You have no idea how many restrictions they put on that Jap guy. Ali's camp even demanded the rules made public after the fight. What the fuck. See for yourself. Unless you yourself are a fraud.
Timerooy 2 months ago
To all Ali haters,can't you see that Japanese faggot Inoki was totally at Ali's mercy.If Ali wanted he could have gone to the mat and pound hm with his deadly punches but Ali did not do so b'coz he knew Inoki did not have that much strength to resist Ali's attack and would have died in the ring.
ginnigreatest 2 months ago
@cozmic24 That's kind of the whole point, Inoki didn't want to get punched.
brnfkknv 2 months ago
inoki was a great tactician in this one, doing what he could with the rules being what they were
Yoni123 3 months ago
the rules didnt allow inoki to do takedowns and wrestle so what do you expect? wrestling > boxing anyways
Yoni123 3 months ago
@Yoni123 according to Frank Mir, wrestling > boxing. he's calling Lesnar to beat Overeem.
Rao665 2 months ago
This was most definately a shoot (I.E real)...which is why is was so dull/bad. On an interesting side-note, Vince McMahon Jr. handled the North American promotion of the fight.
MattSingh1 3 months ago
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asymong2009 3 months ago
One of the greatest fights ever!
mochicruise 3 months ago
Of course this fight shouldt had happen but Chill guys its over, this is 36 or 37 years ago.
TheInfernoarmy 4 months ago
just shows how muhammed ali would get raped by any mma fighter, or wrestler or bjj practitioner back then. may be the best boxer but not the best fighter. and this is coming from a life long ali fan.
manz92 4 months ago
@manz92 life long fan born 20 years after ali lost most of his brain. Shut the fuck up kid, he was a boxer, if he trained for mma he would have probably be the best at it too. And this fight was one of the greatest jokes mankind has come up with since religion. Please get breast cancer or something.
onokaoonokao 3 months ago
@onokaoonokao damn, i hope that was a rage moment and you didnt mean that otherwise i see the devil coming for you anyhow, ali could have been good in mma, maybe but hes a boxer, and mma beats boxing simple.
manz92 3 months ago
@alphamonX Yeah it can happen bare-knuckled. I was just meaning the gloves though, when you still wrap your knuckles you'll rarely break them because the last two knuckles are secured tightly enough and won't slip.
Andrcgn 4 months ago
i read this was supposed to be a show. but inoki did not think so. he butt scooted and kicked ali's legs hard. you cant box with out strong legs.
yell3232 4 months ago
It's ridiculous Ali has to wear gloves when this goon can kick him without any protection haha
Andrcgn 4 months ago
Dumbest thing i've ever seen.
ladytarheel1234 5 months ago
Plus you can tell Ali hardly took it seriously because he has ALOT better footwork than he displayed here
KillaKev256 5 months ago
You guy are dicksuckers like seriously...How can you possibly say Ali is a coward ?? He fought some of the greatest and hardest hitting punchers to ever get into a boxing ring..This fight was stupid and it also messed with Ali's boxing career because he has soars and shit on his legs after this fight...Half of you dont have half the heart Ali has...
KillaKev256 5 months ago
this was a fixed fight its not real ali was supposed to acidently hit the ref and stand over him concernd and inoki was to kick ali in the face and ali fake knock out then loose the fight because of sucker kick but when ali heard he was going to loose he wanted a real fight then 6 days before the fight the rules were changed no grapling for inoki and ali no jabs or right hands just a couple of punches through out the fight this is not boxing vrs mma this is riged fight with no winner
TheLilPimp112 5 months ago
isn't that kind of cowardly....
Ardie83 5 months ago
screw ali he a coward putting those rules on inoki
EVASIVE38 5 months ago
what is inoki trying to do?
HollywoodKendrick 6 months ago
Screw Inoki! He should have stood up and fought like a man, not wriggled on the ground like a worm!!
scampynoXD 6 months ago
@scampynoXD Inoki had a huge list of rules imposed against him because Ali was scared to "fight like a man."
Immortalsyn83 2 months ago 6
@Immortalsyn83
Ali was past his prime. the fight was fixed from the beginning so Ali could get a $6million paycheck. it was supposed to be like a WWE match up, with a
predetermined out come. Why would Ali take a real match up against a grappler? A boxer can't beat a grappler bc a boxer has no ground game.
lalamango1 3 weeks ago
@lalamango1 Barely, this happen in 76 & he didn't fully retire from boxing until 81. This match originally was supposed to be a fix however once Ali found out he was supposed to lose he demanded it changed to actual competition. He accepted the bout because he was offered 6 million however demanded a huge list of limitations against Inoki which prohibited the wrestler from utilizing his dominate skill sets. Inoki wasn't allowed to even kick Ali without having one knee grounded.
Immortalsyn83 3 weeks ago
this was a fake fight not real lots of rules on both sides ali could only jab inoki could only kick punch and tackle they had to go out of there syles to fight like this
TheLilPimp112 6 months ago
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Alifarooq714 6 months ago
Ali fought like a bitch
bussinful 7 months ago
@bussinful ...listen here .......the asian guy was on the floor most of the time so how would you hve done different than ALI........if the guy had always stayed on foot then im sure that AIwuld have knocked him out. besides ALI did get the last hit
benjianubis 7 months ago
inoki fought like a girl.
777digger777 7 months ago
@777digger777 You should see this .youtube.com/watch?v=oGNNJRU5bKM&feature=related
When Ali look Inoki training ,Ali afraid to Inoki.Ali demanded the rule from Inoki. Inoki cannot kick though stands. Inoki cannot use the technique of the joint. Inoki cannot use the elbow. And, because Ali was a chicken, the prohibition of the announcement of this rule was demanded. Inoki accepted a disadvantageous rule.
ochimusya30 6 months ago
Inoki totaly trolled Ali
Zerogokikun 7 months ago
fukin short ass ,a bomb eatin ass muthafukas
themegarampage 7 months ago
Typical grapplers, crawling on the ground like worms instead of fighting like actual human beings...
eggsandwich8885 7 months ago
It might have been a good thing that these rules were so fucked up and confusing prior to to the fight. I think had they actually allowed it to be anything goes, Inoki would have either broke one of Ali's legs with a kick or injured him in some other way with his submissions. Then he wouldn't have a career left. Smart of Inoki to stay on his back though, kind of reminds me of Werdum lol.
PunkHippie1971 7 months ago
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@PunkHippie1971 Inoki doesnt stand a chance infront of muhammad Ali. The only reason this match ended as a tie was because Ali was wearing gloves, while Inoki was wearing heavy boots and punching with his fists.
eggsandwich8885 7 months ago
one of the bright ideas from 1970
CrashBandikoot7 7 months ago
wow that guy kicks like a complete faggot.
habbz11 7 months ago
Inoki would smash Ali in a street fight.
2431346 8 months ago
@2431346
ali is a boxer, not a street fighter.
anyway, in a street fight you can also grap your opponent
777digger777 7 months ago
that leg injury ultimately shortened his career so yeah this fight should never have happened.Gimmick exhibition matches can fuck up your career too
warmaker911 8 months ago
hey, It's the first Werdum Vs Overeem 2.
peeweesherman 8 months ago
what a sham, shameless payoff
SeraphsSword 8 months ago
Ali is tough as nails, there's guys who would have quit after the firs leg kick but he kept going.
Packofsixpack 8 months ago
Ali spent time in the hospital after this.
shermnduke 8 months ago
Apparently these guys really hated each other. They decided to do it as shoot fight which is why it sucked. Inoki wouldn't box up because Ali would have knocked his head off. Ali wouldn't go to the ground because Inoki could have snapped every bone in Ali's body.
JonLambert89 8 months ago
THIS IS RIDICOULOUS ALI MUST HAVE REALLY NEEDED THE MONEY
Mr127superdee 8 months ago
Well, now it's letting me watch it XD.
And you can tell Inoki knew he was going to win this fight, or at least thought he was going to win.
xLEGITIMATEGAMINGx 8 months ago
Thumbs up if your computer is 'SHITTT.
Well mine is so i can't fucking watch this video.... RAAAAGEE!
xLEGITIMATEGAMINGx 8 months ago
@xLEGITIMATEGAMINGx
Praise urself happy
I guarantee u, u felt better beffore then after.
Or well, when u have some green stuff to smoke/eat etc i guarantee u a good exercise for ur abdominals, yea warning, big chance u get a tremendous laughing kick. it will kick in when Inoki's starts to .... "kick" ... (soccer tackle on the man-->> red card in the original sport)
Well, you don't even need the green stuff for a good laugh.
isostar5 8 months ago
Anyone who thought Ali was just playing is bullshit. The reason he was smiling and laughing is a common sign of fighters when they get hurt and they're trying to counter react the pain with a facial expression that says opposite, it's almost an instinctual reaction to his injuries that put that fool in the hospital
CIifftothemax 8 months ago
Ronki is just a nigger muslim who's butt hurt a nigger muslim lost to a small jap. hahaha
ColonaIJessup 8 months ago
ronki23 is an idiot
aziangirlluv 8 months ago 47
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ochimusya30 6 months ago
@ochimusya30 yeah im aware of that
aziangirlluv 6 months ago
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@aziangirlluv You should see this .youtube.com/watch?v=oGNNJRU5bKM&feature=related
When Ali look Inoki training ,Ali afraid to Inoki.Ali demanded the rule from Inoki. Inoki cannot kick though stands. Inoki cannot use the technique of the joint. Inoki cannot use the elbow. And, because Ali was a chicken, the prohibition of the announcement of this rule was demanded. Inoki accepted a disadvantageous rule.
ochimusya30 6 months ago
Thumbs up if Ali lost
orochikuriasuu 8 months ago 55
@orochikuriasuu
This wasnt even close to a fight, so there can't be a winner lol
Inoki wasn't allowed to wrestle and ali couldn't box cos inoki was only on the floor lol
isostar5 8 months ago
@isostar5 it wasn't a close fight, because Inoki beat the crap out of him. Ali was allowed to punch him anyway he want, he just didn't know ground and pound. The rules that were made were made by Ali to make the fight easier and protect him. Even with the rules he got OWNED
orochikuriasuu 8 months ago
@orochikuriasuu
I said it wasn't a fight, i didn't say it was close.
Showboating vs the Soccer sliding/tackle
Is that fighting?
If he beat the crap out of Ali then Ali didn't carry any crap in him.
If i would have fought Ali those days, and he would only think i could wrestle well, i would have 'won' also, mister bean would have won and imagine, even you would win on ur own vision of this .
This was a farce.
A shame for boxing and wrestling.
isostar5 8 months ago
@isostar5 These were Ali's rules. You seem to forget that. Ali made the rules so he would be protected. Ali tried to make the fight easier for him. Ali was beat up so bad he was put in the hospital. Yeah, i'd say that was a beating :D
orochikuriasuu 8 months ago
@orochikuriasuu
Ali made the rule that he wanted Inoki to be on the floor?
Weird very weird..
Ali did go to the hospital for an ointment for his damageded skin, yes ur right he could have bought it at a drug store..Ali, i never told he's tough..
Ever heard of a Low kick? I doubt it.. then you see real pain and damage, look it up if you don't believe me ;)
isostar5 8 months ago
@isostar5 Yep. He said Inoki couldn't kick unless he was on his knees or lower. Didn't you ever read the background to this ?
orochikuriasuu 8 months ago
@orochikuriasuu
No didn't read the background, i only remembered it from seeing it on tv that time and i can't recall those rules.
I wasn't searching for this but when i did see it appear at the right in the 'Suggesties' (suggestions, i'm dutch ;) ) i remembered it a bit and clicked it.. this way i see lot of vids here, most of it..
Greetz, Jan
isostar5 8 months ago
@orochikuriasuu
" beat the crap out of him"
Wanna see some real crap beat'n out?!
Watch: Peter Aerts Highlight
(by: LiouvilleVN)
isostar5 8 months ago
@isostar5 Why do I want to watch that? It's irrelevant.
orochikuriasuu 8 months ago
@orochikuriasuu
Sweet reply.
isostar5 8 months ago
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@isostar5 I know, I'm right
orochikuriasuu 8 months ago
@orochikuriasuu Ali Wins.
2rasputin1 6 months ago
@2rasputin1 nope he lost.
orochikuriasuu 6 months ago
@orochikuriasuu Ponka.
2rasputin1 6 months ago
@2rasputin1 yeah Inoki won
orochikuriasuu 6 months ago
please calm down, ronki23 doesn't look like a jackass AT ALL, he pointed out INCREDIBLY logical factors, and this match was a draw, so the implication that anyone lost is just foolish. Inoki didn't win, he squirmed around the whole time, and this match really isn't that special to fans outside of Japanese wrestling. Thats just the truth, this match is "significant to Inoki... thats it. Inoki may have "outlasted" Ali to a fool, but Ali never really touched him, cased closed. geez
BurningDiscipline 8 months ago
@xIegionx it still means nothing-if he couldn't punch the guy when he was standing (something boxers are made for), it means little. However,i'm arguing with another guy called BigD on the video 'Muhammed Ali loses to a wrestler' and he says MMA is inferior to boxing and uses Mercer vs Sylvia as an example-he says Boxing has an 8-6 advantage to MMA. So i'm basically arguing for boxing on this vid and against it on that other vid lol
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 That was ali's fault who instigated the rules. It means Inoki kicked Ali's ass with handicap rules and would've decimated him with MMA rules. Thats just how much inoki owned ali
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx as other people say (in particular Big D)-he couldn't hit the guy when he was on the ground-Inoki himself said in an interview it'd be lights out if Ali hit him directly on the chin. I would hardly say Inoki owned Ali if Ali couldn't hit him when he was down so this match proves little except that MMA fighters have a bigger arsenal when on their backs
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 Ali COULD hit the guy when he was o the ground. Ali didn't know HOW to. Get that through your head.
Ali lost, he admitted it. The only person who doesn't believe Ali, is you.
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx I'll believe that he could hit Inoki when he was on the ground when I hear an interview/see the rules. HOWEVER, it seems you want to drag Ali down at every opportunity-are you Japanese or a white supremacist that you hate Ali,a black American so much? Perhaps you're an islamaphobe?
Ali IS the greatest in boxing-yet you go around saying he sucks just because he 'lost' in a so-called MMA match.
ronki23 8 months ago
@ronki23 Ali was allowed to him him anyway he wanted. standing up or on the ground. he just didn't. He knew nothing of ground and pound
xIegionx 8 months ago
@xIegionx Ali knew nothing of ground and pound? The same ground and pound that many MMA fights end up in? The same ground and pound many street fights end up in? The same ground and pound that NEANDERTHALS and GORILLAS know how to do? Ground and pound is one of the most natural things in a fight-how could Ali-the greatest boxer of all time, not know it >_> Ali could ground and pound but that'd be dumb because A) Boxing is a stand up fight style and B) Inoki knew how to grapple.
ronki23 8 months ago
@ronki23 even if the rules prohibited most of the grappling skills?
nonynonyme 8 months ago
@xIegionx I don't know why you're judging the greatest boxer of all time on a fight where he couldn't hit a guy because that guy was on his back the whole time-Ali could punch down because of his long reach but power would be lacking. It was just as cowardly on Inoki's part for staying on his back-he could clinch/kick while standing if he wanted and even use standing grapples. This match proves little
ronki23 8 months ago
@ronki23 He's not great. He got beat by a smaller guy with handicap rules against his opponent
xIegionx 8 months ago
@xIegionx I'll believe this 'loss' when it becomes popular-oh wait, it's not so people obviously think it proves nothing. MMA and Boxing are different sports with different rules. Even MMA is not the be-all-end-all of fighting. In a BOXING match, Ali would destroy Inoki.
ronki23 8 months ago
@ronki23 Actually everyone knows htis as common sense, it's just you
xIegionx 8 months ago
ジョーン・リーにジーンラーベルとブルース・リーと交流があった２人が関わってるのに
日本のブルース・リーファンが気にもかけないのが残念。
jonathanfactory001 9 months ago
People here don't seem to know what fake wrestling is. Andre the Giant vs Chuck Wepner was on the prelims for this fight, for christ's sake.
Denver1928 9 months ago
lol Muhammad Ali talking shit cracks me up
pie579 9 months ago
This is big blemish for karate... *facepalm*
Zeegens1 9 months ago
Big mistake from Ali.
copperkipper1 9 months ago
You know there are fighters who outdo the the fitnesses of those celebrities you listed? ;/
Anyway; Ali may or may not have known what he was in for, however this event was ORIGINALLY going to be staged, like a pro-wrestling match. Ali wanted it tobea real fight, thus the handicap rules were put into action.
xIegionx 9 months ago
If this is real, the whole time it looked like Inoki just wanted to get fucked or something like a whore on her back....
XvxBERSERKxvX 9 months ago
....was this real?
XvxBERSERKxvX 9 months ago
Inoki is so strong!!
masa44691 9 months ago
Ali needed special rules to fight Inoki. Inoki was only allowed to kick WHEN HE WAS ON HIS KNEES OR LOWER. Even with handicap rules, Ali was sent to the hospital. HA!
xIegionx 10 months ago
@xIegionx was their another rule were he couldnt take Ali down
McJohnson808 10 months ago
@McJohnson808 Nor could he do wrist locks. Ali got fucked up even with all the handicap
xIegionx 10 months ago
@xIegionx different ruleset/fighting system-his legs were not used to getting hit because he was a boxer- a boxer is obviously tough enough for MMA since he's getting hit in the face/body full contact but they prefer to box instead-of course if they wish to do MMA they need to train in it
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 You should know it was Ali who instigated the handicap rules to make the fight easier and he STILL lost
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx it doesn't matter-Ali's trained in Boxing, not MMA- he doesn't have takedown defence or know how to defend against kicks because Boxing is hands only. Anyway, it was a draw and publicity stunt
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 Ali never looked at it like a publicity stunt even thought it was considered one, because Ali kept going on about how he was going to KO Inoki's big chin. If Ali knew it was a publicity stunt he wouldn't have gotten cocky. Even with his rules he lost. I call that hilarious and an achievement to proving why Ali wasn't the greatest.
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx he didn't lose-it was a draw. Not to mention he couldn't hit him if he was down (if I recall correctly). Ali was the greatest IN BOXING
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 It was called a draw because Ali couldn't take a loss to his career. By decision, clearly Inoki won that fight. Everyone said it, the "Greatest" couldn't handle the butt hurt of having a loss to a small japanese man
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx and with regards to that bit, Ali could obviously handle a loss because he was defeated by Joe Lewis and (near the end of his career), he lost two or three times more. Football and Rugby analogy
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 Ali actually claimed by the end of his career meaning his later losses were resulted in him not being in his prime and not fighting for the right reasons, etc etc, in other words an excuse for his losses which is why he didn't mind. But he could never have handled one (like this) in his prime. Anyone can clearly see Inoki won this. A lot of the fight was set up by his Managers, coaches, managers, agents etc. A lot of them told Ali there was no way he could win without the special rules
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx he probably couldn't but the rules are different-even if Inoki was standing Ali's legs would be shot. It just shows Inoki is an amazing fighter but it doesn't make Ali any less of a BOXER
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 But he's definitely much less of a fighter. Boxing is one aspect of fighting. Throwing kicks, grappling and all sorts an change the outcome of a fight, which is why in this case, clearly Ali was NOT the greatest at all. And his speech that NO one could beat him? I laugh at that.
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx of course it's only one aspect, he's the greatest for that only. If one were to make 'The Ultimate Fighter' via Frankenstein method, he'd have the speed of Ali, the power of Mike Tyson, the wrestling skill of Kurt Angle, the grappling skill of Royce Gracie, the fitness of Bruce Lee, and the kicks of Jean Claude van Damme. I also don't believe that Ali really meant half the stuff he said/I don't think he knew what he was in for.
ronki23 9 months ago
@xIegionx I had a look at the match highlight-it proves little since Ali was clowning around most of the match e.g. holding the ropes and screaming and making funny faces. I also read Ali couldn't punch Inoki when he was on the ground and Inoki broke his foot from kicking Ali
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 Ali wasn't really clowning around. He was over confident. He thought he could knock Inoki out no problem because of Inoki's chin. Ali was getting kicked so badly he tried to make it sound like it was nothing, in other words "acting" like he wasn't hurt. NOPE, he was sent to the hospital. HA.
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx still doesn't matter-Inoki broke his foot and Ali couldn't hit him on the ground so this proves nothing
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 Inoki actually sprained it. Ali didn't know shit about the ground and pound or anything. His own handicap rules to help him win still cost him a lot.
xIegionx 9 months ago
@xIegionx In MMA he'd be good but not amazing- he'd win most of his fights due to his speed and stamina but of course he'd lose now and again. It's like saying someone who's good at football (soccer to Americans) isn't the greatest in Rugby because he didn't score a touchdown
ronki23 9 months ago
@ronki23 ALI LOSSSSSSSSSSST
He was ownedddd
UnbIacken 9 months ago
@ronki23 hey i know xlegionx is a jerk but in the end he's correct. it's best you just not even comment anymore to prevent yourself from looking like a jackass
UnbIacken 8 months ago
ali would lay him out
jmarra37 10 months ago
Doesn't his face looks like Takamura n hajime no ippo 7:27
flaminsowrd11 10 months ago 2
@flaminsowrd11 hahahahaha
slagtron 10 months ago
Inoki said recently "Ali's light one punch hit my side,but it broke my rib. Perhaps something else in Ali's gloves." Yes,Ali was a dirty chicken.
Kawanya37 10 months ago
If the guy was able to do boots to the legs, they should've taken Ali's gloves off at least lol, just so it wouldn't look so dumb him trying to grab his feet with boxing gloves on
TropicalShirtTy 11 months ago
Replace Ali with Fedor and its over as soon as Inoki falls :D
JspekRex 11 months ago
Pink Floyd @ 7:23 "In The Flesh"
maxpower789z 11 months ago
the reason Ali didn't hit the floor because he would get wrecked
DukikokKU 11 months ago
pretty cool, I heard about this match at least a decade ago on blackbelt mag. didn't know there was an actual video. As anyone ever heard the rumor that this fight was originally supposed to be between Ali and Bruce Lee but since Lee died in 73 they decided to go with Inoki?
BareseMaledetto 11 months ago
Ali would, without a doubt, have won this fight if Inoki remained standing the whole time.
WillStLeger 11 months ago
@WillStLeger if ali wouldn't have nagged about the rules and would've fought on the initial wrestling rules, then Inoki wouldn't have done that. No tackle, no joint locks, no chops, kicks restricted to the upper side of the feet, no attacks to the torso or the neck... gee, I wonder why he had to do this to bring this match to a tie... fly like a pussy and sting like a mosquito
nonynonyme 11 months ago
@nonynonyme Thing is, when standing, Inoki would have gotten pulverized. Ali's already beaten 2 other wrestlers with wrestling rules allowed. The fact Inoki lay on his back removed any possibility of Ali fighting back - he's the pussy. What would have been more manly? Staying up against the odds. What wasn't? Hitting the deck after your opening 2 attacks get dodged and remaining on the floor to make sure you score hits.
The fact Inoki tied, despite this blatant loophole, is pathetic.
WillStLeger 11 months ago
@WillStLeger it all started when Ali said if any Asian man was up to have a match with him, and he was willing to go with wrestling rules at first. But somehow, the rules changed to almost the same as having a boxing match... now if Ali's the one looking for challenge, why would he have to change the rules so that ali would have complete advantage over his foes? is this not a... contradiction?
nonynonyme 11 months ago
@nonynonyme actually it didn't. It started as a fixed fight. Look it up. Ali was planned to hit the ref, then get 'KO'd' by Inoki while helping the ref.
However, Ali didn't allow it, and, 2 days before changed the rules for whatever reason you want to believe.
It's not the same as boxing - Inoki throwing kicks everywhere - fighting off the ground.
Fact is, Ali, with very little time after believing this to be a fix, had no time to train, so the rules where changed to compensate.
WillStLeger 11 months ago
@WillStLeger yeah, and why do you think Inoki had to throw kicks like that? Because the rules limited him to kick Ali in a designated way. If your kicks are limited, and your throws/joint locks limited, how do you not call this a boxing match designed for Ali? And you tell me that the rules were to compensate for his lack of time to prepare? bull shit he's been knowing about the match for the longest time, and you still say that he didn't have time?
nonynonyme 11 months ago
@nonynonyme How do i not call this a boxing match? Someone can stay on the canvas and not get hit, while throwing kicks for easy points.
Face it, Inoki was clever to exploit this the way he did - clever of him do it and score a draw. But it's just plain obvious he would get wrecked standing up. Just watch the standing scenes again.
You clearly can't see it. I'm not making excuses for the rule change; tbh, i don't really care about it.
The fact is Ali ruled the standing game here. End of.
WillStLeger 11 months ago
@WillStLeger
Inoki wouldve ruled the standing game EASILY if only he was allowed to use his wrestling.
If Inoki didnt have all these STUPID rules imposed on him, this fight wouldve ended in about 1 minute into the 1st round.
Ali wouldve been choked out or tapped out.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS Wrestling isnt about standing up, your confusing yourself.
Just watch the first few seconds of the round. Inoki kicks twice, Ali dodges.
Even with grappling allowed, the only way Inoki could possibly win is sumission.
Your a fool if you say a wrestler stands with a boxer no problem.
WillStLeger 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
Take downs and clinch work are a part of stand up.
Youre a fool if you think Ali could defend against those standing techniques.
Its easier to grab someone or take someone down than to score a 1 punch KO.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS I'm the fool? In UFC, tell me, what do they do against boxers? Stand? No, they don't, they tackle em.
Take one guess why.
Boxers rule the standing game - undisputed fact. Please, actually watch the fight again, with an unbiased attitude. Inoki didn't follow those ridiculous kicking rules and still didn't land.
And KO Ali? Are you mad? One of the best chins in the history of boxing. George Foreman. 1 loss by TKO ever (when he was experiencing Parkinson's). Really?? Read up a bit mate.
WillStLeger 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
Tackling is a standing technique and is more easier to do than scoring a one punch KO.
Which makes the wrestler more dominant in standing, as well as on the ground.
If boxers ruled at the standing game, why dont they have any takedown defense LOL
If they cant even stop from getting taken down, how can they even be considered to have superior stand up LOL
MMA fighters/Wrestlers have better stand up due to having the dominant clinch and takedowns/and defenses for them.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
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WillStLeger 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS boxers dont have a take down defense, because boxers dont get taken down. It's kinda simple really. Thats why this match should not be debated as who was best, rather what was the fucking point of a totally flawed idea. How many years later did it take for MMA to be formed? This match was an embarassment..but not to the men fighting..but to the dullards that set it in motion.
StormsfuryDOTcom 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
Inoki DID follow the bullshit rule, why the fuck do you think he kept kicking like a retard?
You cant be serious, my friend!
And he DID land.
PLEASE watch the fight again with your eyes open and without your biased attitude.
And KO Ali?
Are you incapable of reading as well as well as facing facts?
When did I ever mention ANYTHING about KOing Ali?
Get a fucking clue, mate.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
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WillStLeger 10 months ago
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WillStLeger 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS
First - Inoki did not follow the rule - he didn't have 1 knee on the mat both times. I think that was the rule.
Second - Inoki did not land on him. Don't suggest I'm biased when you argue for a grappling sport's striking over a striking sport.
Third - Inoki's ability to KO or knockdown Ali is an important point nonetheless. Shame on you for not realizing. How else could Inoki rule a standing game?
See other comment..
WillStLeger 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS Tackling is a weak argument to base yourself on. Tackling is a standing technique, no doubt. Though it leads to grappling, which, I'm afraid is rather out of place in a discussion regarding the standing game.
I'm right, Inoki's only chance is a submission. He'd get wrecked by Ali's speed.
Don't call me biased when you argue that wrestling - a predominantly grappling based sport - will triumph over a Pure striking sport in the standing game.
Please, educate yourself on boxing.
WillStLeger 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
Please educate yourself on simple logic first, then do yourself a favour and educate yourself on fighting.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS Guess that's game, set and match to me.
When someone resorts to 'LOL' as an appropriate response to an argument of any calibure, rest assured, you already know they're beat.
You need to grow up a bit if you can take yourself seriously.
I'm going to KCL, reading Pharmaceutical science, yet I'm stupid. Right. Good luck impressing others with your intimidating debating skills. ''LOL' ? Shame you turned out to be such a inconceivable - and childish - bigot.
WillStLeger 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
Game set and match to you?
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
You need to snap back to reality, face facts and stop looking in the mirror when talking to me.
Youre wrong, end of story.
I dont give a shit where youre going, or what youre reading, youre not smart when it comes to martial arts.
I mean, Albert Einstein was smart too...but even a martial arts dumbass like yourself could probably kick his ass.
.....Stupid. LOL!!!
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS You are wrong, haha, the fact you can only resort to 'LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL' proves it.
Call me a dumbass more, it really supports the fact your - apparently - the greatest martial art and fight sport instructor and expert ever.
Don't be a sore loser.
WillStLeger 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
LOL LOL LOL
Dumbass.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
You just hate the fact that Im right, and youre wrong LOL
Sort yourself out you dopey cunt.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
At the end of the day, Ali SUCKS as a real fighter.
Hes a GREAT boxer, but sucks as a fighter.
Now face facts and shut up.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS You're pathetic. That aside, I actually semi-agree with you.
My only inhibition to that is Ali's combination of a strong chin and speedy reflex.
Ah well, both me and you are too firmly rooted to change anything. Talk to you later, you fucking grade A wanker.
WillStLeger 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
Yeah, talk to you later, you big fat dickhead.
I didnt wanna talk to you in the first place anyway.
Jeus.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS Inoki drew with Ali, despite having the refuge of lying on the floor and scoring easy points.
How could someone like you possibly ignore this?
This, regardless of your extrapolations, sets in stone the fact Inoki cannot stand up with Ali. Ali - the man famed for his speed. Ali - the man Inoki couldn't hit when standing. Vs Inoki - the main that failed win with a cheap tactic.
Beither man could fully use their own style. Inoki by rules and Ali by cheat. Although we still have a draw.
WillStLeger 10 months ago
@WillStLeger
How could you possible be so stupid to say such crap?
You cant be serious LOL
Youre totally insane if you believe in what you say.
Im done with this madness, so you can argue with someone else from now on.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS 4:45 watch, Inoki scores a grand total of 1/4 kicks. Both standing Kicks failing and 1 ground kick hitting. What a load. Even if Inoki was being inhibited by the rules - which he seemingly ignored with the first few kicks - what else could he have done? Shoot for a tackle and just fall over? Aim for a clinch and get dodged?
Your blatant disregard for this - let's face it - eye-opening scene in the fight shows just how much your bias has hazed your decision making.
WillStLeger 10 months ago