i am blown away, where does it say that its ok under any cirumstance that we have a right to determine who lives ,who dies. you are a horrible preacher. you can determine who lives .the bible says only god. no greater love than to lay down thier life .you chuck are a phony.........foster steele
I grieve over this. I have seen the Lord our God do the impossible in scripture & in my own life. God has a very good reason for ALL He allows and is not flippant when allowing the hard things which He entrusts us with to honor Him. I love Chuck Smith with all my heart, no question. Attended Calvary Chapel's for over 15 yrs. and still do. However, I persoanlly believe God would not want us to cross into His area ever. I believe God gives us room to make a great many decisions..short of this one!
I am a mother of 9 children. I have also had 6 miscarriages. I've known life, and I've known loss. I know this would be heart-wrenching. But if you believe God works in our lives, then we have to trust Him to know what to allow in our lives. Could a medical professional come to Christ due to this birth and loving example of the family? If our spouse has terminal cancer which will disfigure him, we don't just pull the trigger. We need to just let God be God, and we have to trust and obey.
If you believe that God is the giver of life, then HE should be the taker of it alone. This child will fight in the womb for life, as any "normal" baby would. We have all heard how the baby squirms away from the abortion tools. This will occur with this baby as well. Now, this is not a nice, neat situation...in any way, shape, or form. The mother wants to tidy this up as easy as she can and hide from this painful experience that she has been given. But "all things work together for good".
perhaps a more gentle rebuke should have been made, as a voice of reasoning i would have called for prayer and fasting and gave more opportunity for others to share the pain and regret of abortion and spoke how in love we can share in caring for those in uncertainty. forget the blame and shame and welcome the holy spirit to gather us in love and conviction to be transformed in grace
What purpose is to be served by attacking this righteous man of God in the public forum? Have you called him personally to advise him as the Bible dictates? Do you think public Christian attacks on other Christians is the heart of God?
The important scripture that you forgot in this video is Matthew 7:21-23. They shall say, 'But, Lord, we saved the unborn.' But at the expense of the witness of Jesus by exhibiting infighting amongst ourselves? John 13:35
Lord, please protect Nicki from ungodly counsel and give her the wisdom and fortitude to trust you in her pregnancy. Lord, please strengthen her unborn children with health, vitality and long life. May they be a testament to the world of your faithfulness.
Even though I do NOT agree with abortion or even condoning it in a life threatening state, it's not right how the video ends on a note of ALL Calvary Chapels being the same. That is not right. You can't put what one man says (other than Jesus) as what an entire body of believers says.
On the February 14 Pastor's Perspective program, Chuck Smith and Don Stewart began the program by stating that they had vague unspecified "information" for Nicki from Riverside.
Then they went on to say that the call screener had told them that Nicki might die, and that they were the victims of false judgment from Christian brothers.
No repentance. Only arrogance.
Nothing about how they could have encouraged Nicki to trust in God through this difficult situation.
Appreciate the many relevant, faith producing Scriptures used in this video. Man lives by every word that prodeeds from the mouth of God. This is sad. In the past, I have spoken will of Mr. Smith, but he failed on this one. Many doctors seem to be murder-encouraging liars, and many seem to be naive enough to believe all they say in encouraging abortions. Also, I'm don't think the caller said that her life was in danger. Also, Mr. S's use of the adultress woman was a misapplication. Mt:7:13-14
In fact there is no medical reason that any child has to be killed in order for the mother to live. The baby might need to be removed by c-section at some point, and the baby might die... but it should never be the intent of the doctor to kill an unborn child. In fact pastor Chuck knew that he was telling the woman to do wrong by saying that God would forgive her for it. Forgiveness is only needed for wrongdoing.
This scandal is too important to the health of Christ's Church to allow this to descend further into abusive comments, so further comments will need to be approved before they become public. From the beginning, the purpose of this video was to allow God's Word to speak Truth into this situation. If you have comments and wish for them to appear here, please focus on God's Word (if possible, with little or no other comments).
Are you trying to discredit what the Lord has accomplished through Pastor Chuck Smith, just like all the other internet trolls have with Billy Graham ? Maybe you should try and talk to Chuck personally instead of bashing him with ambiguous videos. So many "SELF ORDAINED" "YOUTUBE" preachers try to discredit men of God who have been working in ministry for 50 years . What's the deal with xsgtusmc ? Are you saying that those millions are not saved because you didn't like Chuck's answer ?
Are you trying to discredit what the Lord has accomplished through Pastor Chuck Smith, just like all the other internet trolls have with Billy Graham ? Maybe you should try and talk to Chuck personally instead of bashing him with ambiguous videos. So many "SELF ORDAINED" "YOUTUBE" preachers try to discredit men of God who have been working in ministry for 50 years ? What's the deal with xsgtusmc ? Are you saying that those millions are not saved because you didn't like Chuck's answer ?
John: 7:13-16 Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide, and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter by it. 14 For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it. 15 Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. 17 Even so, every GOOD TREE BEARS GOOD FRUIT; BUT THE BAD TREE BEARS BAD FRUIT.
For 12345beagle54321: What Pastor Chuck said about abortion on the February 9 broadcast is included in its entirety in this video. He specifically refers to "extenuating circumstances" which allow him to suggest abortion in this case.
He is against abortion. He explains it on the next days broadcast of Pastor's Perspective on Wed, 09 Feb 2011. You can listen to it on the KWAVE website.
my heart goes out to nikki as well, and i am praying for her often. i hope that she will reach out and find others that will support her pro-life convictions and faith in God's sovereign hand.
I went to Calvary for twelve years and finaaly got out as I could no longer make excuses for them. I am now a pastor and done a sermon on the rotten fruit of calvary chapel. It is not isolated to your local church it is systemic to the whole of Calvary Chapel. If you go to Calvary and are a Christian (not many are) then come out from among her, touch not the unclean thing. The hypocrisy of talking "against" abortion then promoting it as a grace covered alternative is unChristian and unbiblical
@xsgtusmc having also come out from CC, i'm curious as to what you mean when you say that not many of the attendees of CCs are christians? also, what is the other fruit you are referring to?
I don't see anything shocking about this.. Chuck does not support abortion at all. There are some circumstances where (NO ABORTION) does not apply... This is very simple and for somebody to attempt to cause a reaction as if Chuck has in someway flipped flopped is insane. This post is nothing more then to create some kind of knee jerk response in an attempt to get viewers.. VERY LAME INDEED !!! Sad to see what people will do in the name of (youtube views)..
@xsgtusmc I only follow the word of God... Of which Chuck Smith has a HUGE following of Thousands if not MILLIONS he have brought to know the Lord and Saved them from hell.... So what have you done again?
You are taking the position that there are no circumstances that justify an abortion, is INSANE! and NOT Gods word... Only Man gives SIN a scale of importance to justify his sin nature. ALL have SIN and FALL SHORT of the Glory of God! We are not living in paradise ATM and man will sin until the day he dies. So there must be a work around given to man to over come this handicap... There is.. And his name is Jesus. He has PAID the price for Mans sin. Do you do not see the LOG in your own eye?
@2xtream Yes I am taking the position that babies are not to be murdered, and interestingly enough it happens to be God's position, not that a hypocritical unbeliever like yourself would understand that. Jesus did not pay for wilfull sin thou miserable hypocrite. Deu 19:10 That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee.
i am blown away, where does it say that its ok under any cirumstance that we have a right to determine who lives ,who dies. you are a horrible preacher. you can determine who lives .the bible says only god. no greater love than to lay down thier life .you chuck are a phony.........foster steele
SuperSlayer222 9 months ago
I grieve over this. I have seen the Lord our God do the impossible in scripture & in my own life. God has a very good reason for ALL He allows and is not flippant when allowing the hard things which He entrusts us with to honor Him. I love Chuck Smith with all my heart, no question. Attended Calvary Chapel's for over 15 yrs. and still do. However, I persoanlly believe God would not want us to cross into His area ever. I believe God gives us room to make a great many decisions..short of this one!
goisabella5 11 months ago
I am a mother of 9 children. I have also had 6 miscarriages. I've known life, and I've known loss. I know this would be heart-wrenching. But if you believe God works in our lives, then we have to trust Him to know what to allow in our lives. Could a medical professional come to Christ due to this birth and loving example of the family? If our spouse has terminal cancer which will disfigure him, we don't just pull the trigger. We need to just let God be God, and we have to trust and obey.
MommyOfMiracles333 1 year ago
If you believe that God is the giver of life, then HE should be the taker of it alone. This child will fight in the womb for life, as any "normal" baby would. We have all heard how the baby squirms away from the abortion tools. This will occur with this baby as well. Now, this is not a nice, neat situation...in any way, shape, or form. The mother wants to tidy this up as easy as she can and hide from this painful experience that she has been given. But "all things work together for good".
MommyOfMiracles333 1 year ago 4
perhaps a more gentle rebuke should have been made, as a voice of reasoning i would have called for prayer and fasting and gave more opportunity for others to share the pain and regret of abortion and spoke how in love we can share in caring for those in uncertainty. forget the blame and shame and welcome the holy spirit to gather us in love and conviction to be transformed in grace
DaveL4T 1 year ago 2
What purpose is to be served by attacking this righteous man of God in the public forum? Have you called him personally to advise him as the Bible dictates? Do you think public Christian attacks on other Christians is the heart of God?
The important scripture that you forgot in this video is Matthew 7:21-23. They shall say, 'But, Lord, we saved the unborn.' But at the expense of the witness of Jesus by exhibiting infighting amongst ourselves? John 13:35
I hope you think about this.
Amhlair 1 year ago
@Amhlair Yes we have, repeatedly.... see Matthew 18 (the whole chapter)
palmquistt 1 year ago
Lord, please protect Nicki from ungodly counsel and give her the wisdom and fortitude to trust you in her pregnancy. Lord, please strengthen her unborn children with health, vitality and long life. May they be a testament to the world of your faithfulness.
UkeEuphoria 1 year ago
Even though I do NOT agree with abortion or even condoning it in a life threatening state, it's not right how the video ends on a note of ALL Calvary Chapels being the same. That is not right. You can't put what one man says (other than Jesus) as what an entire body of believers says.
myadoni7 1 year ago
On the February 14 Pastor's Perspective program, Chuck Smith and Don Stewart began the program by stating that they had vague unspecified "information" for Nicki from Riverside.
Then they went on to say that the call screener had told them that Nicki might die, and that they were the victims of false judgment from Christian brothers.
No repentance. Only arrogance.
Nothing about how they could have encouraged Nicki to trust in God through this difficult situation.
palmquistt 1 year ago
What a testimony it would've been for the doctors to see God's hand reach into that womb and heal those babies.
todayistheonlyday 1 year ago
So, it's OK that Pastor Smith gave unGodly, unBiblical advise to a women in pain and confusion, because millions have been saved through his ministry?
Is that the justification?
Seems Smith isn't the only one who has conditional morality. At this point, he should be apologizing and repenting, not excusing and justifying.
Good time for us all to remember that these leaders are men, after all, and not God.
miselaineous13 1 year ago
Appreciate the many relevant, faith producing Scriptures used in this video. Man lives by every word that prodeeds from the mouth of God. This is sad. In the past, I have spoken will of Mr. Smith, but he failed on this one. Many doctors seem to be murder-encouraging liars, and many seem to be naive enough to believe all they say in encouraging abortions. Also, I'm don't think the caller said that her life was in danger. Also, Mr. S's use of the adultress woman was a misapplication. Mt:7:13-14
RobertScarpati 1 year ago
In fact there is no medical reason that any child has to be killed in order for the mother to live. The baby might need to be removed by c-section at some point, and the baby might die... but it should never be the intent of the doctor to kill an unborn child. In fact pastor Chuck knew that he was telling the woman to do wrong by saying that God would forgive her for it. Forgiveness is only needed for wrongdoing.
CubsNewscast 1 year ago
Deu 19:10 That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee.
xsgtusmc 1 year ago
This scandal is too important to the health of Christ's Church to allow this to descend further into abusive comments, so further comments will need to be approved before they become public. From the beginning, the purpose of this video was to allow God's Word to speak Truth into this situation. If you have comments and wish for them to appear here, please focus on God's Word (if possible, with little or no other comments).
palmquistt 1 year ago
Are you trying to discredit what the Lord has accomplished through Pastor Chuck Smith, just like all the other internet trolls have with Billy Graham ? Maybe you should try and talk to Chuck personally instead of bashing him with ambiguous videos. So many "SELF ORDAINED" "YOUTUBE" preachers try to discredit men of God who have been working in ministry for 50 years . What's the deal with xsgtusmc ? Are you saying that those millions are not saved because you didn't like Chuck's answer ?
12345beagle54321 1 year ago
Are you trying to discredit what the Lord has accomplished through Pastor Chuck Smith, just like all the other internet trolls have with Billy Graham ? Maybe you should try and talk to Chuck personally instead of bashing him with ambiguous videos. So many "SELF ORDAINED" "YOUTUBE" preachers try to discredit men of God who have been working in ministry for 50 years ? What's the deal with xsgtusmc ? Are you saying that those millions are not saved because you didn't like Chuck's answer ?
12345beagle54321 1 year ago
John: 7:13-16 Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide, and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter by it. 14 For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it. 15 Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. 17 Even so, every GOOD TREE BEARS GOOD FRUIT; BUT THE BAD TREE BEARS BAD FRUIT.
Millions saved is good fruit~
2xtream 1 year ago
I'm trying to figure out if this video was made by an internet troll or a concerned Christian.
12345beagle54321 1 year ago
For 12345beagle54321: What Pastor Chuck said about abortion on the February 9 broadcast is included in its entirety in this video. He specifically refers to "extenuating circumstances" which allow him to suggest abortion in this case.
palmquistt 1 year ago
He is against abortion. He explains it on the next days broadcast of Pastor's Perspective on Wed, 09 Feb 2011. You can listen to it on the KWAVE website.
12345beagle54321 1 year ago
my heart goes out to nikki as well, and i am praying for her often. i hope that she will reach out and find others that will support her pro-life convictions and faith in God's sovereign hand.
curlyroller 1 year ago
I went to Calvary for twelve years and finaaly got out as I could no longer make excuses for them. I am now a pastor and done a sermon on the rotten fruit of calvary chapel. It is not isolated to your local church it is systemic to the whole of Calvary Chapel. If you go to Calvary and are a Christian (not many are) then come out from among her, touch not the unclean thing. The hypocrisy of talking "against" abortion then promoting it as a grace covered alternative is unChristian and unbiblical
xsgtusmc 1 year ago
@xsgtusmc having also come out from CC, i'm curious as to what you mean when you say that not many of the attendees of CCs are christians? also, what is the other fruit you are referring to?
curlyroller 1 year ago
I don't see anything shocking about this.. Chuck does not support abortion at all. There are some circumstances where (NO ABORTION) does not apply... This is very simple and for somebody to attempt to cause a reaction as if Chuck has in someway flipped flopped is insane. This post is nothing more then to create some kind of knee jerk response in an attempt to get viewers.. VERY LAME INDEED !!! Sad to see what people will do in the name of (youtube views)..
2xtream 1 year ago
@2xtream you are a blind follower of a blind guide
xsgtusmc 1 year ago
@xsgtusmc I only follow the word of God... Of which Chuck Smith has a HUGE following of Thousands if not MILLIONS he have brought to know the Lord and Saved them from hell.... So what have you done again?
2xtream 1 year ago
@2xtream Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.
You were saying about his "millions"?
xsgtusmc 1 year ago
You are taking the position that there are no circumstances that justify an abortion, is INSANE! and NOT Gods word... Only Man gives SIN a scale of importance to justify his sin nature. ALL have SIN and FALL SHORT of the Glory of God! We are not living in paradise ATM and man will sin until the day he dies. So there must be a work around given to man to over come this handicap... There is.. And his name is Jesus. He has PAID the price for Mans sin. Do you do not see the LOG in your own eye?
2xtream 1 year ago
@2xtream Yes I am taking the position that babies are not to be murdered, and interestingly enough it happens to be God's position, not that a hypocritical unbeliever like yourself would understand that. Jesus did not pay for wilfull sin thou miserable hypocrite. Deu 19:10 That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee.
xsgtusmc 1 year ago