co-casters, such a boring idea. much better with 1 caster who's good, not these idiots. they even giggle like some 9 year old child with male and female genitalia.
@xaositectz Percantage of win/loss is ment to rule out how many actually plays the race, but ofcourse the more players playing the race the higher shot you have at the race becoming the best, but then again NesTea just won GSL.
@TheMegaPirate77 outside of korea it's much more even. in korea there are 3 times as many terrans as zerg or protoss. Terrans also have like much more absolute top caliber players like mvp, polt, bomber, toss only has MC zerg only has Nestea. i think terran fits the koreans' playstyle the best
@Gisle1991 That isn't because of the race, that is because of NesTea and Losira are geniuses and no one else can compare to them, that they picked zerg is irrevelant.
The game is quite balanced, alright. But ThorZaIN needs to be nerfed. I love that boy. But I also love MC. Well, they're awesome! HEY ! NERF THORZAIN!
Koreans are better at Starcraft because the play the game a lot more. Why do they do so? Because they get paid to do so. Why do they get paid? Because the game is very popular in their country. With the spread of E-sports will come an equal spread of competition and skill.
@Elkhwind Well, if you can easily and effectively micro your units on the battlefield and macro at the same time, you should perhaps become a progamer and show them how bad they, the current progamers, really are. I am not sure if the commentator took into consideration the whole picture or only that battle, but we should still look at the complete picture ourselves and not guess what the commentator thought at the moment.
You are the retard if you cant realize MC was behind. @5:53 after MC lost his first DT for free the supplies were 53 vs 44 (MC never is behind supply early game vs terran) This huge advantage thorzain had was what made possible for him to start 2/2 upgrades at 12minute mark and still remain with supply advantage. Something only happens when you are hugely ahead
DT was not worthwhile. Tiwlight , shrine, 4DTs and warp prism is expensive.
MBS, automine, being able to select more than 12 units/1 building etc really free's up APM and your mind's resources on menial tasks to focus on the important things in the game like micro, strategy and most importantly decision making. There's no cheap gimmick like muta stacking that Koreans can abuse with their 400 APM.
The mighty Korean MC, who defeat July and several other "pro" Koreans in the Starleague not so long ago.... is brought down by a Swede, who claims he prefers playing Minecraft more than SC2.
The myth that Koreans are the best SC players is just that... a bubble minded myth.
@suberkin Someone didn't watch Korea vs. the world on Gom T.V the Koreans won, granted, but it was only by one game. This isn't Broodwar, in the next few years the gap between Koreans and Foreigners will be almost nonexistent.
@307am I did watch it, but that still doesn't mean anything, because a select few a good foreigners beat some koreans doesn't mean at all that they are on the same level...open your eyes, the gap is still huge
@crollic I also read that post, although paraphrasing someone else's opinion isn't very cash. Koreans aren't better because they're Korean and they have magic Starcraft powers. They're better because it has saturated their culture and in doing so they've been playing longer. But with the rise of popularity in E-sports in the western world there are now foreigners who practice just as much as the Koreans leaving them all on an even keel. As Starcraft matures we'll see more foreigners at the top.
@307am No, they're better because they have a much higher work ethic than Americans. The Korean teams literally practice 12 hours a day 6 days a week. American teams don't have that dedication, they're more about posting streams and youtube videos and getting on different vlogs and podcasts. It's not that Koreans have super powers, they just have a culture that promotes a hard working ethic and a love for starcraft that creates a fertile environment for amazing starcraft players.
@crollic Don't kid yourself, like every professional sport the Koreans are there for the money, not some higher calling. The reason nations are better at certain things is because of: you guessed it, money. For example America has the best Basketball teams in the world. Is that because we love basketball more? No it's because we pay our pros to be the best. So with the spread of E-sports other countries will begin to pay their players just as good as the Koreans do, causing them to get better.
@307am Using your own words: Money doesn't give koreans magical powers. America simply doesn't have the same work ethic that korea does. It's literally that simple.
@crollic Actually, it does. The money is what gives the Koreans their work ethic as far as Starcraft is concerned. As soon as the foreign community (not just America) begins to pay their players as well, foreigners will be right up there.
@crollic nah...koreans better at sc only because the game is more popular there and more people play it...so of course they are better but things are gonna be different with sc2. If america had sc popularity like south korea and lots of ppl play it, im guarntee americans would be better than koreans. Just compare koreans and americans in games like call of duty...lolz americans would rape koreans in fps games. Bottom line is koreans arent better than americans in gaming. And im korean.
@MessageInBlood1 So because a game is more popular the players magically get more skilled at it? I guess the teams playing 12 hours a day 6 days a week had nothing to do with it.....
@crollic of course...if the game is popular, more people would play it and there would be more competition. Lots of american gamers don't even know what starcraft is. There were hardy any sc1 tournaments in the u.s and meanwhile in korea, like nearly 1/3 of the population has played this game before and the pro games were televised. So popularity has alot to do with it.
@MessageInBlood1 I am not 100% with you there, fps game and "tactic games" (or what its called, like starcraft) are two different type of games. But I agree abit about the popularity of the game depends. And we haven't seen so many non-korean in GSL either. And it always comes new tactics. for a noob like me in starcraft it doesn't make different but in pro level it does alot! That's what I love about to watch pro-gamers:)
@MessageInBlood1 Well, I have to disagree with you. Take Serbia in basketball for example. No one is putting any money in young players, basketball federation is in ruins practicly, but Serbia is still one of the best basketball nation in the world mostly because of tradition. There is a lot of good coaches, talented players and somehow it still holds no matter how much more money other countries invest in their basketball. It is the same with Korean StarCraft. There is tradition and pride!
Hard for Korean players who have zero information on their opponent, while the whole world knows of and can study a Korean player's style. NesTea also felt Dimaga played in a way specifically to lock him down, but NesTea himself could only play his usual game because he had no info on Dimaga.
brilliant micro? Stutter stepping a stimmed bio ball isn't brilliant.....its just standard micro play by now. Executed well no doubt. Brilliant micro is more original.T win was just like almost every other T win. MMM. not sure what was so amazing about that. MC took a risk teching early, and didn't do the damage he needed to. The game was not won due to Thorzane playing like a T god but rather Mc making the wrong desicion on kind of a new build. Credit to Thorzone for playing sold though.
@invisibleaznDJ Believe me, MC build is not something that relies on damage it gives you the time to not need to build units but to tech instead it is not an all in by any means. He force the fight by attacking with his vikings first then kiting the zlots. This is not sc1, it is easier but you rarely see terran pros control their units that well.
@eppa1111 MC's build was not all in, but against a T army that is just massing with a bunch of early barracks.....not the wisest. The game would have been over a lot sooner if MC did try an all in ish kind of build. With a solid player like Thorzain, you clearly cannot do this, you will get rolled no matter how good you are. Like I said, the stutter stepping was executed perfectly, but this is not what I would consider brilliant or ground breaking. I've seen even bronze level players do it.
@invisibleaznDJ The reason MC lost was not because of his build. It was when he underestimated the upgrades of thorzain at the 10 minute mark which put him behind. He then lost the game when he got outplayed in the last bug engagement, when he did not guardian shield is his zealots or cut up thorzains army. Stutter stepping is not brilliant micro but thorzain had phenomenal units control/posisitioning, MC did not.
@eppa1111 um.thanks 4 agreeing with me. DT builds against T r weak these days. Missile turrets are cheap and instant scans even cheaper.MC picked a build (quick DT tech, instead of getting upgrades and units) which does not compensate 4 mass bararcks n upgrades. Pretty much means MC picked the wrong kinda build to combat this. MC underestimated Thorzaine, which lead to poor build choice, which lead to MC being behind in upgrades. micro would not look nearly as good without the upgrades.
@invisibleaznDJ His build was not poor, if you watch the game winning fight at 10min you see: MC sees TZ walk out with his army, get a free stalker at xelnage tower then runs in with 4 stalkers. 2 instantly get picked of for free. MC then runs in and get mannered by his OWN FF, the GS sentry get killed MC does not put up a new one, The build was fine if anything it shows the power of his build he pushed out at the wrong time and had terrible control. MC had watched the TSL.
@RacingDoubt Well he's always cocky, but it comes across as rude, like his comment about ciara. I can handle people being confident in themselves, but MC just has such a huge epeen for himself that it's kind of obnoxious. Read a couple of his TSL interviews, you'll probably agree.
It's ridiculous to read people who say that terran are OP cos ThorZaIN victory...he won because he played better than his opponent.Let's try to be sportive ;)
@raffmh MC underestimated Thorzain. DT builds against instant scans and cheap missile turrets are weak. MC clearly did not watch any thorzain replays. Thorzain clearly did his homework. This is not a matter of who is OP. Whomever is saying so is a nub. I'd like to see if thorzain is as good as the casters are making him out to be and see a rematch against a much better prepared MC. This is by far the best i have seen thorzain perform.
@raffmh oh what ever when oGs.mc won GSL toss and FF was OP, and when Fruit dealer won GSL zerg was op, its all the idiots seeing a win and suddenly someone being OP,
It's ridiculous to read people who say that terran are OP cos ThorZaIN victory...he won because he played better than is opponent.Let's try to be sportive ;)
This series is amazing. Is the best PvT display of skill ever. Thorzain and MC should be proud of bringing us the most solid mechanics to ever grace a tournament series.
This is starcraft history in the making.
Now stop reading any comments because you should not be spoiled.
wtb artosis as a permanent caster to tsl... chill and artosis seems quite good tastosis would be awesome but im sure they dont always have time to do this especially when artosis wants to get to the proscene again
@Idontinternet impossible, thorzain attacked move the last moments of the replay, and he crossed ways with a DT. if he really wouldve maphacked.. he wouldve spotted the DT
That's a dumb thing to say, if you know you are map hacking, of course you are not going to try to be super obvious about it, that dt wasn't going to do anything too important anyway...
I am really thinking Thorzain is hacking, you should watch the series against MVP.
game was over the minute thorzain scouted the proxy pylon and built a turret on his natural.
OgsMC Dts made abasolutly no damage. Artosis and chill called the game wrong from the begining, artosis even saying would steal the build when the game was already over after the disavantage Mc put himself him after the early cheese.
Omg, these commentators know nothing. Thorzain scouted the pylon, deduced the dt/cheese rush, and defended for it. Mc did no damage with dts so he was heavily behind and was no suprise he lost, no matter how good he is.
@00calvera Are you in bronze league or something? MC was not fatally far behind economically because he didn't overcommit at all to his DT harass, and he still managed to DO something with the DTs even after it was countered. Also I feel obliged to tell you you're fucking retarded.
You are the retard if you cant realize MC was behind. @5:53 after MC lost his first DT for free the supplies were 53 vs 44 (MC never is behind supply early game vs terran) This huge advantage thorzain had was what made possible for him to start 2/2 upgrades at 12minute mark and still remain with supply advantage. Something only happens when you are hugely ahead
DT was not worthwhile. Tiwlight , shrine, 4DTs and warp prism for what it did.
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ThePsionicMatrixTM 1 month ago
Artosis sounds identical to Deadmau5
ModulatedTesticle 1 month ago
is it john lennon??? at 00:14 O.O
AntonFNk 1 month ago
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Stebbi144 4 months ago
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Hatemeurdead 4 months ago
co-casters, such a boring idea. much better with 1 caster who's good, not these idiots. they even giggle like some 9 year old child with male and female genitalia.
treapin 5 months ago
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treapin 5 months ago
@xaositectz Percantage of win/loss is ment to rule out how many actually plays the race, but ofcourse the more players playing the race the higher shot you have at the race becoming the best, but then again NesTea just won GSL.
TheMegaPirate77 5 months ago
Does there exist a way to download those replays?? I cant find them :( Could someone send me a link?
WisLaRapJo 5 months ago
@Bjoernzor No, when T constantly has the highest percantage of win, then they're imba.
TheMegaPirate77 6 months ago
@TheMegaPirate77 outside of korea it's much more even. in korea there are 3 times as many terrans as zerg or protoss. Terrans also have like much more absolute top caliber players like mvp, polt, bomber, toss only has MC zerg only has Nestea. i think terran fits the koreans' playstyle the best
xaositectz 5 months ago
Sc2 has the coolest fucking intros for the players in tournaments!
cmacksta 6 months ago
@Gisle1991 That isn't because of the race, that is because of NesTea and Losira are geniuses and no one else can compare to them, that they picked zerg is irrevelant.
TheMegaPirate77 6 months ago
@TheMegaPirate77 But obviously when top 4 of the super tourny are terran, T=Imba right? :P
Bjoernzor 6 months ago
Terran isn't OP, in the gsl final it was ZvZ... both korean, so terran OP? Hell no!
Gisle1991 6 months ago
those opening sketches arent accurate...
jklpoiuy1234 7 months ago
@jklpoiuy1234 lol I doubt they are sketches, more likely to be photoshopped photos
kholdheart666 6 months ago
The game is quite balanced, alright. But ThorZaIN needs to be nerfed. I love that boy. But I also love MC. Well, they're awesome! HEY ! NERF THORZAIN!
AvanLotharion 8 months ago 3
terran r op
dphtrooper 8 months ago
0:18 Liquid Tyler can see your soul.
Ceejikins 9 months ago 8
CHILL GET OUT
brokor21 9 months ago 2
Koreans are better at Starcraft because the play the game a lot more. Why do they do so? Because they get paid to do so. Why do they get paid? Because the game is very popular in their country. With the spread of E-sports will come an equal spread of competition and skill.
jagriff333 9 months ago
a-move, back, a-move, back, etc. Is it skilled micro? not
Elkhwind 9 months ago
@Elkhwind It's about doing it as effectively as possible, not just doing it.
madlei 9 months ago
@madlei Anyway it's still very easy to do effectively.
Elkhwind 9 months ago
@Elkhwind Well, if you can easily and effectively micro your units on the battlefield and macro at the same time, you should perhaps become a progamer and show them how bad they, the current progamers, really are. I am not sure if the commentator took into consideration the whole picture or only that battle, but we should still look at the complete picture ourselves and not guess what the commentator thought at the moment.
madlei 9 months ago
@Elkhwind then pressing F Shift Click click click click is micro?? what is micro to u??
weiliemwong 9 months ago
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You are the retard if you cant realize MC was behind. @5:53 after MC lost his first DT for free the supplies were 53 vs 44 (MC never is behind supply early game vs terran) This huge advantage thorzain had was what made possible for him to start 2/2 upgrades at 12minute mark and still remain with supply advantage. Something only happens when you are hugely ahead
DT was not worthwhile. Tiwlight , shrine, 4DTs and warp prism is expensive.
Learn to play you noob moron
00calvera 9 months ago
MBS, automine, being able to select more than 12 units/1 building etc really free's up APM and your mind's resources on menial tasks to focus on the important things in the game like micro, strategy and most importantly decision making. There's no cheap gimmick like muta stacking that Koreans can abuse with their 400 APM.
TheMarine250789 9 months ago 3
The mighty Korean MC, who defeat July and several other "pro" Koreans in the Starleague not so long ago.... is brought down by a Swede, who claims he prefers playing Minecraft more than SC2.
The myth that Koreans are the best SC players is just that... a bubble minded myth.
amerikano 9 months ago
@amerikano no its pretty true actually.thorzain is just brilliant but for the other 90% of the time koreans are still pwning foreigners
gmanthebeast1 9 months ago
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jkdxtr321 9 months ago
@amerikano i guess u guys are perfect at everything huh, thorzain play a little but already beat all the oldschool.
jkdxtr321 9 months ago
@amerikano because 1 person who is fucking amazing beats koreans, just mean everyone can....its not a myth, it's the truth. koreans are way better
suberkin 9 months ago
@suberkin Someone didn't watch Korea vs. the world on Gom T.V the Koreans won, granted, but it was only by one game. This isn't Broodwar, in the next few years the gap between Koreans and Foreigners will be almost nonexistent.
307am 9 months ago
@307am I did watch it, but that still doesn't mean anything, because a select few a good foreigners beat some koreans doesn't mean at all that they are on the same level...open your eyes, the gap is still huge
suberkin 9 months ago
@307am And watch the games in the world vs korea, the games were not close, regardless of the score, the koreans played much better..
suberkin 9 months ago
@307am the gap between the koreans and the foreigners will only get bigger. This also rings true if more SC1 pros switch to SC2.
crollic 9 months ago
@crollic I also read that post, although paraphrasing someone else's opinion isn't very cash. Koreans aren't better because they're Korean and they have magic Starcraft powers. They're better because it has saturated their culture and in doing so they've been playing longer. But with the rise of popularity in E-sports in the western world there are now foreigners who practice just as much as the Koreans leaving them all on an even keel. As Starcraft matures we'll see more foreigners at the top.
307am 9 months ago
@307am No, they're better because they have a much higher work ethic than Americans. The Korean teams literally practice 12 hours a day 6 days a week. American teams don't have that dedication, they're more about posting streams and youtube videos and getting on different vlogs and podcasts. It's not that Koreans have super powers, they just have a culture that promotes a hard working ethic and a love for starcraft that creates a fertile environment for amazing starcraft players.
crollic 9 months ago
@crollic Don't kid yourself, like every professional sport the Koreans are there for the money, not some higher calling. The reason nations are better at certain things is because of: you guessed it, money. For example America has the best Basketball teams in the world. Is that because we love basketball more? No it's because we pay our pros to be the best. So with the spread of E-sports other countries will begin to pay their players just as good as the Koreans do, causing them to get better.
307am 9 months ago
@307am Using your own words: Money doesn't give koreans magical powers. America simply doesn't have the same work ethic that korea does. It's literally that simple.
crollic 9 months ago
@crollic Actually, it does. The money is what gives the Koreans their work ethic as far as Starcraft is concerned. As soon as the foreign community (not just America) begins to pay their players as well, foreigners will be right up there.
307am 9 months ago
@crollic nah...koreans better at sc only because the game is more popular there and more people play it...so of course they are better but things are gonna be different with sc2. If america had sc popularity like south korea and lots of ppl play it, im guarntee americans would be better than koreans. Just compare koreans and americans in games like call of duty...lolz americans would rape koreans in fps games. Bottom line is koreans arent better than americans in gaming. And im korean.
MessageInBlood1 9 months ago
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Grumoth 9 months ago
@MessageInBlood1 So because a game is more popular the players magically get more skilled at it? I guess the teams playing 12 hours a day 6 days a week had nothing to do with it.....
crollic 9 months ago
@crollic of course...if the game is popular, more people would play it and there would be more competition. Lots of american gamers don't even know what starcraft is. There were hardy any sc1 tournaments in the u.s and meanwhile in korea, like nearly 1/3 of the population has played this game before and the pro games were televised. So popularity has alot to do with it.
MessageInBlood1 9 months ago
@MessageInBlood1 I am not 100% with you there, fps game and "tactic games" (or what its called, like starcraft) are two different type of games. But I agree abit about the popularity of the game depends. And we haven't seen so many non-korean in GSL either. And it always comes new tactics. for a noob like me in starcraft it doesn't make different but in pro level it does alot! That's what I love about to watch pro-gamers:)
zelioxo 9 months ago
@MessageInBlood1 Well, I have to disagree with you. Take Serbia in basketball for example. No one is putting any money in young players, basketball federation is in ruins practicly, but Serbia is still one of the best basketball nation in the world mostly because of tradition. There is a lot of good coaches, talented players and somehow it still holds no matter how much more money other countries invest in their basketball. It is the same with Korean StarCraft. There is tradition and pride!
XelNaga89 9 months ago
@amerikano doesn't mean**
suberkin 9 months ago
no DT support or upgrades = >=(
ojon12389 10 months ago
Looks like oGs.MC is the only dislike
NoamHax 10 months ago 4
Hard for Korean players who have zero information on their opponent, while the whole world knows of and can study a Korean player's style. NesTea also felt Dimaga played in a way specifically to lock him down, but NesTea himself could only play his usual game because he had no info on Dimaga.
scsavior 10 months ago
Why does it say match 2 ? This is match 1 ?
Smoerable 10 months ago
stim too imba...
thebole123 10 months ago
@thebole123 You gotta be kidding me. The terran bio was 2-2 and toss was 0-0-0.
m89733 10 months ago
@thebole123 shut up ur bronze
flectz 10 months ago
day9 does not comment in tsl
vullut 10 months ago
@vullut Yes he does, but this match was casted by Chill and Artosis. Rotating casters for the TSL3 is Day9, Chill, Artosis, Husky and DjWheat.
hastrom 10 months ago
probably series of the year
fall0rn 10 months ago
Woops, I wrote day9 before. I guess I'm unsure of both casters. Who are they? Great commentating anyway :)
h3llan 10 months ago
@h3llan Chill and Artosis.
hastrom 10 months ago
Day9 is one of the casters, right. But who is the other one?
Love his voice and commentating.
h3llan 10 months ago
brilliant micro? Stutter stepping a stimmed bio ball isn't brilliant.....its just standard micro play by now. Executed well no doubt. Brilliant micro is more original.T win was just like almost every other T win. MMM. not sure what was so amazing about that. MC took a risk teching early, and didn't do the damage he needed to. The game was not won due to Thorzane playing like a T god but rather Mc making the wrong desicion on kind of a new build. Credit to Thorzone for playing sold though.
invisibleaznDJ 10 months ago
@invisibleaznDJ Believe me, MC build is not something that relies on damage it gives you the time to not need to build units but to tech instead it is not an all in by any means. He force the fight by attacking with his vikings first then kiting the zlots. This is not sc1, it is easier but you rarely see terran pros control their units that well.
eppa1111 10 months ago
@eppa1111 MC's build was not all in, but against a T army that is just massing with a bunch of early barracks.....not the wisest. The game would have been over a lot sooner if MC did try an all in ish kind of build. With a solid player like Thorzain, you clearly cannot do this, you will get rolled no matter how good you are. Like I said, the stutter stepping was executed perfectly, but this is not what I would consider brilliant or ground breaking. I've seen even bronze level players do it.
invisibleaznDJ 10 months ago
@invisibleaznDJ The reason MC lost was not because of his build. It was when he underestimated the upgrades of thorzain at the 10 minute mark which put him behind. He then lost the game when he got outplayed in the last bug engagement, when he did not guardian shield is his zealots or cut up thorzains army. Stutter stepping is not brilliant micro but thorzain had phenomenal units control/posisitioning, MC did not.
eppa1111 10 months ago
@eppa1111 um.thanks 4 agreeing with me. DT builds against T r weak these days. Missile turrets are cheap and instant scans even cheaper.MC picked a build (quick DT tech, instead of getting upgrades and units) which does not compensate 4 mass bararcks n upgrades. Pretty much means MC picked the wrong kinda build to combat this. MC underestimated Thorzaine, which lead to poor build choice, which lead to MC being behind in upgrades. micro would not look nearly as good without the upgrades.
invisibleaznDJ 10 months ago
@invisibleaznDJ His build was not poor, if you watch the game winning fight at 10min you see: MC sees TZ walk out with his army, get a free stalker at xelnage tower then runs in with 4 stalkers. 2 instantly get picked of for free. MC then runs in and get mannered by his OWN FF, the GS sentry get killed MC does not put up a new one, The build was fine if anything it shows the power of his build he pushed out at the wrong time and had terrible control. MC had watched the TSL.
eppa1111 9 months ago
Thorzain is microing like a BEAST!
cayn0r 10 months ago
Honestly this keeps me super excited, unlike fps commentary!
junya123456 10 months ago
If only MC wasn't a cocky dick head... then maybe I could respect him. I don't care how good he is, I fucking hate him.
Monerasauce 10 months ago 2
@Monerasauce Can you please show me instances of him being a cocky dick head? When you're that good, haters gonna hate.
RacingDoubt 10 months ago
@RacingDoubt Well he's always cocky, but it comes across as rude, like his comment about ciara. I can handle people being confident in themselves, but MC just has such a huge epeen for himself that it's kind of obnoxious. Read a couple of his TSL interviews, you'll probably agree.
Monerasauce 10 months ago
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It's ridiculous to read people who say that terran are OP cos ThorZaIN victory...he won because he played better than his opponent.Let's try to be sportive ;)
raffmh 10 months ago 15
@raffmh MC underestimated Thorzain. DT builds against instant scans and cheap missile turrets are weak. MC clearly did not watch any thorzain replays. Thorzain clearly did his homework. This is not a matter of who is OP. Whomever is saying so is a nub. I'd like to see if thorzain is as good as the casters are making him out to be and see a rematch against a much better prepared MC. This is by far the best i have seen thorzain perform.
invisibleaznDJ 10 months ago
@raffmh oh what ever when oGs.mc won GSL toss and FF was OP, and when Fruit dealer won GSL zerg was op, its all the idiots seeing a win and suddenly someone being OP,
Dasconscripts 9 months ago
@Dasconscripts They races are not OP, just imbalanced :p Since the matchup matters so much
cotarna 8 months ago
@raffmh dont give away the victor you fuck tard. go suck your sister
kaopa80 8 months ago 16
@raffmh Thumbs down for spoiler :(
dylphilolife 5 months ago
@raffmh true words but i think you rather mean fair instead of sportive.... :P
netfischer 5 months ago
@raffmh I actually fucking hate you and every single one of your shitty thumbs up
ThisGuy991 4 months ago
It's ridiculous to read people who say that terran are OP cos ThorZaIN victory...he won because he played better than is opponent.Let's try to be sportive ;)
raffmh 10 months ago
Wow. Just wow.
inkuiable 10 months ago
that mouse gesture says REDDIT, if you're wondering...
gakpakeerror 10 months ago
Production tab please
doorknob23194125 10 months ago
Its insane to think about how pros can micro stemmed rines and rauders so well... just insane
PatsFan12834 10 months ago
TSL is full of upsets..whats goin on?
Enozjay 10 months ago
terran is so op
persianprince84 10 months ago
@persianprince84 nah every one knows toss is op now, you would know if you werent stuck in bronze
flectz 10 months ago
Kill those ugly aliens! Nuke Aiur to pieces!
Jspeterson 10 months ago
Does somone know (if and )where you can get the replay file?
XzyerasuX 10 months ago
By the way, one would think that a toss - with chrono boost a 3 possibilities - could catch up more quickly in upgrades :)
Savci008 10 months ago
Warp prisms are underused, I don't know why. They are even more kickass than shuttles.
Savci008 10 months ago
production tab would've been nice
SandmonkeyRabbit 10 months ago
Great games and Artosis is such a good commentator who really adds to the games.
Jagungal 10 months ago
wow.....
LlanosDR 10 months ago
This series is amazing. Is the best PvT display of skill ever. Thorzain and MC should be proud of bringing us the most solid mechanics to ever grace a tournament series.
This is starcraft history in the making.
Now stop reading any comments because you should not be spoiled.
00calvera 10 months ago
artosis + chill = good combo!
dragoon414 10 months ago 4
@dragoon414 no doubt about it
DoctorRobertBobby 10 months ago
@15:19, missing the LEROOOOOOY JENKINS!
Briandotcom0 10 months ago
Can we have production list up please, next time. Really ruin the show
nguyenchihieu 10 months ago
Great game!
Ickbyuk 10 months ago
Open the friggin' production window!
HeXetic 10 months ago 53
@HeXetic TRUE STORY. OPEN UP PRODUCTION TAB ATLEAST! ANY WINDOW IS BETTER THAN NONE.
treapin 5 months ago
Whoa that was an awesome game, can't wait to watch the next 4 =]
HaloChaos 10 months ago
wow that was awesome!°
ant1nerd 10 months ago
"DONT COME IN MOM!!!!" HAHAHAHA
NigelGriff 10 months ago
Probably the best series I've ever seen!!!
wolverine005 10 months ago
wtb artosis as a permanent caster to tsl... chill and artosis seems quite good tastosis would be awesome but im sure they dont always have time to do this especially when artosis wants to get to the proscene again
KAmaKAsa1 10 months ago
HAHA buildorder notebook Artosis u have a new fan here:)!
GaCCow 10 months ago 2
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ah finally no husky
runningsushioo 10 months ago
God I love Artosis
leljala 10 months ago 2
this commentator - Chill, right? Is he sitting 2 metres away from the microphone?? His voice is too low.
Tyfyh 10 months ago
i really need this replay
anyone know where i can find it?
thx
Madhofd 10 months ago
i think chill gets nervous casting with artosis
tindanian 10 months ago
MC's FF are really good, they dont stack at all... Thorzain's upgrade really paid off
atrisX 10 months ago
PRODUCTION TAB
omfgacceptmyname 10 months ago
Does anyone else think thorzain may have possibly been maphacking?
Idontinternet 10 months ago
@Idontinternet
No
vm46 10 months ago
@Idontinternet impossible, thorzain attacked move the last moments of the replay, and he crossed ways with a DT. if he really wouldve maphacked.. he wouldve spotted the DT
Madhofd 10 months ago
@Madhofd nope. unit interactions are server side. he would have SEEN the dt but been unable to attack it
One777oto72ide 10 months ago
@Madhofd
That's a dumb thing to say, if you know you are map hacking, of course you are not going to try to be super obvious about it, that dt wasn't going to do anything too important anyway...
I am really thinking Thorzain is hacking, you should watch the series against MVP.
Aiyoukim 10 months ago
@Idontinternet
No. Stop trolling.
chodori2041 10 months ago
@Idontinternet
Watch the series against MVP, you will have no doubts left.
Aiyoukim 10 months ago
chilltosis
DeliciousIcE132 10 months ago
The DT tech puts you a little behind. If anything, this match showed how good oGsMC can transition from a high tech fail.
kkev1n 10 months ago
shout out to reddit again!
Havocrx 10 months ago
NEVER OVERCOMMIT TO COLLOSUS!!!!
Fouge642 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
game was over the minute thorzain scouted the proxy pylon and built a turret on his natural.
OgsMC Dts made abasolutly no damage. Artosis and chill called the game wrong from the begining, artosis even saying would steal the build when the game was already over after the disavantage Mc put himself him after the early cheese.
00calvera 10 months ago
Omg, these commentators know nothing. Thorzain scouted the pylon, deduced the dt/cheese rush, and defended for it. Mc did no damage with dts so he was heavily behind and was no suprise he lost, no matter how good he is.
00calvera 10 months ago
@00calvera Are you in bronze league or something? MC was not fatally far behind economically because he didn't overcommit at all to his DT harass, and he still managed to DO something with the DTs even after it was countered. Also I feel obliged to tell you you're fucking retarded.
omfgacceptmyname 10 months ago
@omfgacceptmyname
You are the retard if you cant realize MC was behind. @5:53 after MC lost his first DT for free the supplies were 53 vs 44 (MC never is behind supply early game vs terran) This huge advantage thorzain had was what made possible for him to start 2/2 upgrades at 12minute mark and still remain with supply advantage. Something only happens when you are hugely ahead
DT was not worthwhile. Tiwlight , shrine, 4DTs and warp prism for what it did.
Learn to play you noob moron
00calvera 9 months ago
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00calvera 10 months ago
production tab!
mirrors 10 months ago
Man MC just stick to cheese and early game... if it gets to late or mid game just gg. He's not even used to getting upgrades... jesus christ...
Phisherman10 10 months ago
these players play the tourney from their homes? that means they can get a friend beside them to help them?
Mendelevium146 10 months ago
It is very easy to play with Terran: Marine and marauder in the queue ... easy, easy ...
SdnNvs 10 months ago
@SdnNvs are u fucked?
shoemama 10 months ago
@shoemama easy baby, easy... lol
SdnNvs 10 months ago
cant wait for the inevitable ____ vs ______
mustarsic 10 months ago
thorzain cutest sc player <3
hrmeyer 10 months ago
Wow, just wow.
sirachman 10 months ago
Beautiful opening by MC. Solic play by Thorzain. Whether you play protoss or terran there's so much to learn from this.
Kastoob 10 months ago
@SC2BRNZleague not sure if replays are downloadable but ,,, the build lost... geez
Dasconscripts 10 months ago
This game shows how important upgrades are. GG
knsmile87 10 months ago
Artosis is awesome. i want tastosis to cast a game tho.
lawtzelap 10 months ago
Artosis has a delayed voice...makes it sound awkward.
anonFam 10 months ago
@anonFam no
Lubie225 10 months ago
WOO sweden ftw
szafto 10 months ago
great game RELEASE REST OF SERIES!!!!!! me wanna watch
jasonlin00 10 months ago
I don't like how thorzain doesn't say gg back
SvennemanZZZ 10 months ago
@SvennemanZZZ Why do you care, really, it doesn't necessarily mean he has bm, retard -.-
spazedguy 10 months ago
@spazedguy now now no need to insult people and theres nothing more frustrading than someone beeing unmannered when you say gg
SvennemanZZZ 10 months ago
Come onnnnnn game 2!!
PhlegmMaster 10 months ago 14
who're the casters here?
birdsong875 10 months ago
@birdsong875 Artosis and Chill
khorneboy888 10 months ago
@birdsong875 Chill and Artosis
Shiigent 10 months ago
Thorzain is the best terran in the world right now
I2edMist 10 months ago
cool
lilphillio 10 months ago
Not gonna spoil anything, but you havn't lived until you've watched this series. It's sick good from both players.
addemanns 10 months ago 120
@addemanns I approve this message.
Glasid4131 10 months ago
@addemanns sick good........what does it mean....?
CaLL0fDuTy4 10 months ago
These series were incredibly entertaining. Thanks TL!
Mafffee 10 months ago
Spoiler alert:
Zerg doesn't win.
mikeb912 10 months ago
Great series.
P3nnyrich 10 months ago
YEHHHHHHHHHHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !
dguan 10 months ago
omg so excited lol
gashbleach 10 months ago
@gashbleach We so excited!
BarbarishFTW 10 months ago
These games are going to be sick, ThorZain is such an underrated Terran player, and MC is the BossToss himself.
Heres to an epic series!
OverBelief 10 months ago
@OverBelief game 4 of this series is probably the best game i've ever seen.
RobRoyMH 10 months ago