Fifth Gear Web TV - BMW 320d Efficient Dynamics Road Test

[womansgirl]

I had one of these as a company car and if you drive it like a dick it will still do 50mpg at a constant 140mph it shows 50mpg I had a Leon FR after this that was faster top end but the acceleration was nowhere near as good as the bm and the fuel economy went to shit when you drove it hard unlike the bm which I never got below 45mpg the Leon would easily drop below 40mpg if you drove it a little bit hard. That said the Leon was more fun to drive

[ashleylewisms]

you're not that interesting...the cars perfectly fine

[hunghuge12]

What is this dickhead on about? If it driove like shit no one would want it. This is the obvious way to go about ecomony motoring - make a car the same but use less fuel. If they just wanted MPG why not just make a tiny shitbag of a car like a Gwiz with a tiny diesel? Because it would be a horrible thing to drive and that's a compromise people don't want.

[CaptCamshaft]

my 320d Efficient Dynamics has done over 12000miles now, and the computer sits at 57.6mpg... on normal everyday driving. On a long journey, keeping sensible, but not crawling, you can easily achieve the manufacturer figure of 68.9mpg.... drive like a BMW driver and you will get close to 60mpg.

The tester guy misses the point at the end of his clip; BMW have created a super economy car that doesn't fell sluggish, AND it retains all the sporty driving experience expected from a BMW

[tubbyboy1985]

Too bad it's made in Germany.

[somdusazerate]

>buy premium car to save money

I seriously hope you guys don't do this

[bignicky88]

@somdusazerate that's not the point. company fleets wan't lower taxes and better green credentials. the badge isn't that relevant.

[DKRaFiQ]

52 mpg?? that is awesome! aint bad for me .. idk bout others ... good car!

[HarryAardvark]

I have the cheaper spec version of this car, the 316d efficient dynamics. Same 2.0l engine but tuned down to around 118bhp. Same 16 inch wheels and lowered suspension. My llifetime mpg so far over 31,000 miles of mixed urban and motorway driving is 58.8mpg. And no it doe not lack power but you do have to drop to 5th below 60mph if you want it to pick up quickly. I also just changed my rear tyres at 30,000 miles.

[axelloder]

Classic new car road testing: expecting the best performance and fuel economy out of a new engine. 1500 miles is not enough to get a good indication of fuel economy! I wish it had another thousand miles on it so they could see why BMW claim 68.9mpg.

[superchilled]

@axelloder Glad you spotted that too. 1571 is nothing on a new car. Suspect it would get a lot better over time. I think it's a good review bar the lack of miles on the clock.

[IMB2U]

Drag coefficient was reduced by 0.001. Why would you waste your breath on this? It is literally nothing.

[yupescumuk]

@IMB2U He said it went from 0.27 down to 0.26 which is actually a reduction of 0.01, not 0.001. It does make a difference.

[IMB2U]

@yupescumuk I thought he said .427 to .426. Again, 0.01 isn't that much of a difference for a car like this. Well maybe like 0.000005 litres per 100 km. Maybe less or more, can't bother calculating at this point.

[7477238]

Start/Stop is annoying, cranking on and off all the time.

[Octavideoz]

if you can afford to buy this car, you probably dont give a shit about fuel consumption in my opinion. check out the golf bluemotion guys, it has 105HP but driving it on the motorway on just 3l/100km puts a huge smile on your face

[jimmyhoffa9]

@Octavideoz not entirely true. it'd be good for a long time investment, as the mpg is pretty decent. alot of companies are buying similar cars from bmw because of the good mpg, which means spending less on fuel and emissions tax, while still looking the part as a nice company car to show off in.

[SimasSid]

The best car for who can offord it and want a efficient, pretty and comfortable car.

[Nikolas134]

this car cost 70.000 euros in Denmark....nice car, but you can probably get a porsche in Germany for that price....lol

[1Blakparade]

@Nikolas134 and i tought portugal was a ripoff...but porsches etc you need 100.000 or more but this 50.000 and if you buy one with 1 or 2 years its 25k/30k

[freddie249]

@TheTopOfTheCrop Actually, you've spelt tyres wrong,

[123456789marr]

i've driven a '05 version of 1 of these and its 1 of the best cars i've ever driven ... and its a diesel. I got 150 mph out of it tho, not 142.

[12valvepower1]

some say my dog causes global warming. all we know is she is called the dog

[12valvepower1]

diesel eta bmw. not wrong at all 

[nikefc7]

this clip was shot in birmingham right?

[drphysx]

Ther German ADAC (automobile club) tested this car and they got very close to the claimed fuel economy figures.

According to their test, this is the most fuel efficient car in its class.

[MegaMoili]

bog te jebo

[Michael6609]

I was looking for it but I cannot find it. My apologies.

[Michael6609]

There is another clip of a British journalist who tested the exact same car over a distance of 1105 miles and achieved a fuel economy of 68.9 m.p.g. So check your numbers please.

[pudseypumper]

@Michael6609 Where is this? Can you post a link?

[puzzler1]

@saintmirrenmalky @pokervacha. A very big smile, 60-65mpg on a long run but I tend to be heavy footed, which is quite strange at it hardly changes the MPG. Its fun to drive, the rear has stepped out a few times :) comfortably on my normal long runs (5 hrs a time). Cluncky compared to the 2.2 Honda Accord and 2.0 Audi A4 I but it didn't take too long to get used to. 5dr 163bhp in white, the LEDS are a nice touch on the handles although no rear camera or quircky gimmiicks on the dash. its fun!

[sumanaru]

i know the 2009 model has 177bhp not 163...

[pokerovacha]

I love this car sooo much........im dreaming every day of it, for now...its my desire. @puzzler1 Did you get it? Is there a smile on your face?

[link0587]

This is one of the better reviews this guy has put out

[aziqbal]

only thing i dont like about this car is the small wheeles they are tiny 16inch, can u buyb this car and have 18inch fitted will make some difference to economy but not that much

[puzzler1]

picking a new one up in a week, lets see how if performs driving from ipswich to manchester three times a week!

[saintmirrenmalky]

@puzzler1 I hope you enjoy it, and that it does the job for you. I've just ordered one myself. It'll be my first ever BMW. Looking forward to getting it. The test drive was very impressive.

[aziqbal]

this car is amazing!!! at 65-70mph its does around 60mpg+, i put in £40 worth of fuel thats around 34 litres and i got just over 450 miles from it!!! and i was driving fast at times like 90mph for atleast 30 mins, bmw have just killed any opposition

[ionut26193]

Why would anybody buy a prius????? I just don't get it ,the bmw has the same fuel economy and is better in every way.

[brittonray]

50mpg? Nothing to scoff at. Wonder how much that figure will change with some 20s

[jexicon]

if you want the ms fuel efficient car buy a honda or a golf diesel. if you want performance handling get a bmw . its that simple lol.

[quwers]

@jexicon Performance, handling, buy a Caterham.

[pkerry12]

You suck fifth gear you will never be as good as TOP GEAR!!!

[quwers]

@pkerry12 They'e not trying to be.

[ppaulvanschaik1]

@pkerry12 Than do not read this. What is the purpose of writing this reaction? What do you want to say? 

[MrBazpoker]

oh no that fucking geek again. thinks he knows all about cars, but frankly he doesnt. this is a brilliant car, but because hes an idiot, he cant understand. FU!

[Descartes619]

i've noticed the british will take any german dick in the ass. bmw can stick its badge on a piece of shit and they'll buy it in boatloads.

[Adz911]

Oh come on fifth gear. Who the hell is this idiot? He knows absolutely jack all about cars and he's about as exciting as watching paint dry. GET RID OF HIM!!

[mirofo86]

he is probably the worst car presenter i have ever seen in my internet life..nahnahanah,fucking boring butter boy..

[fsclips]

Ours is coming in two days time :-) Can't wait! On the testdrive we managed 57mpg (drive lastet 3 1/2 hours). Maybe the presenter needs a course in efficient driving? :-P

[dekster14LP]

if they made it efficient, why did they made those mirrors rediculously large on the facelift then?

[CometMcNaught]

@dekster14LP I think it's due to new EU regulations on the minimum viewing area of wing mirrors.

[radioxxflyer]

i dont like this guy. vicky should do all the web tv ones.

[HB45175]

"Centrifugal pendelum absorbers" is the longest euhphemism for dual mass flywheel I've ever seen.

[Boocho88]

how much is 52 mpg ? in Liters / 100 km ?

[Denisdog34]

@Boocho88 Around 3,8 litres/ 100kms

[sylvereyes85]

@Boocho88 5.43

[globa93]

top gear !!!



[mrbenyong]

I Really like this presenter, he did a good job and was clear in pointing out the important points. Much better than that other fat guy who is just trying to be annoying n emotional, or maybe trying be a clarkson wannabe?

[BlazerLT]

Engine isn't broken in, economy will rise when it does. Rating it with 1500 miles on the engine toal is BS.

[thebossisheretostay]

thats quick acceleration wise and top end wise especially as it doesnt have that much power

[sspope]

This guy is complaining about fuel economy yet HIS COLLEAGUE Tom Ford just drove this car and went as far as 1013 miles in ONE TANK!!! Averaging 75.9mpg

[ApachyDaro]

@sspope

Tom Ford doesn't work for Fifth Gear anymore, I think he got axed as far I know.

But yeah Ford did the right thing of testing its cruising because that is where it excel.

[IsabellaProducts]

now that is one high quality vehicle i tell ya what

[VivaLaBamEpisodes]

Can you buy this in the US? I want.

[quwers]

Stick it on a motorway at 70 and then test out the mpgs.

[demon23ro]

@quwers At 70 Mph, i got out of the "old" 177 Hp engine, 60 MPG, but only at a constant 70 Mph on the motorway...

[matthew1373]

@quwers if you are driving a BMW on a motorway at 70 then why are you driving a BMW?

[Spyster007]

@quwers I think most people would be driving this at 120 mph + who cares about 70, it would still be getting great mileage at 70.

[quwers]

@Spyster007 Clearly eveybody drives at 120mph, you dickhead.

[Spyster007]

@quwers actually this is a German car and yes in Germany most people do, no need to be rude. I just got back from driving one for 3 weeks and at a steady 70 mph this vehicle can still get over 50 mpg.

[quwers]

@Spyster007 But this is a British TV show in Britain driving on British roads at the British speed limit.

[Spyster007]

@quwers yes they actually drive slower in britian than in germany, so you should get even better mileage.

[ps3dubbs]

@quwers wat is mpg on this car?

[aziqbal]

@quwers my friend has this car and it does roughly 63-65mpg on the motorway at 70mph speed, u can get over 60pmg basically if u drive on the motorway so its not bad for a car with 163bhp

[Hidezepickle]

@quwers 1:99 learn to watch the review first idiotic idiot.

[quwers]

@Hidezepickle 60 seconds in a minute. OK then...

[michupa2]

Qué ganas tengo de que me lo dén ya!!!! Fantastic!!!!

[demon23ro]

But anywayz.. this guy is an idiot... he doesn't know the first thing about driving in the first place.. and even less about driving a diesel engine powerd car...

[jonny5777]

@demon23ro Yeah but hes actually doing it and youre just moaning about him, go get your own review show mate

[demon23ro]

@jonny5777 When they'll fire this guy (which i hope it will be soon.. like... tomorrow or something..), don't worry... i'll be the one doin' the reviews... and in a proper way... not "the dorky way" ... Thanks for the vote of confidence ! :)

[demon23ro]

And trust me.. at 1000 RPM even that wonderful engine just doesn't have the torque to move that car efficiently.. why ? well.. maybe because the turbine only kicks in above 1300 RPM... you should change gear at a 2400-2600 and cruise at above 1700 in order to get maximum eficiency out of THIS engine..(which has a torque of 380Nm from 1900 RPM !!!!!!! all the way to 2750 RPM - so imagine what torque it would have at 1000 RPM ... again.. not that the engine is bad my any means...)

[demon23ro]

I'm sorry but driving around at 1000 RPM even with a diesel engine as good as that one, you will still use more fuel than you would normally use, because you are just UNDER-REVING that engine all the time... no diesel engine will move a 1.5 ton car at 1000 RPM in maximum efficiency mode you idiot... in order to move at a fuel efficient way you need to keep the car as close to the maximum torque range as possible...

[Ty4ons]

@demon23ro Only if you were to floor it, most petrol engines have max torque at 3500-4500rpm, but they're alot more economical at around 2000. When rpm is lowered drag from the engine parts is also lowered reducing power needed.

The turbo probably kicks in at around 1900, but that doesn't really matter because when you want to get maximum mpg you don't have a lot of throttle and therefore not enough pressure to spin the turbo.

[flawns]

how the FUCK can they say it gets over 20mpgs from 50!? okay maybe 5? or 7? its do able but 20!!!?

[driftnut56]

@flawns what do you mean?

[mada88]

Are they making a 335d ed? lol

[wordreet]

LOL! Same mpg as my '99 Corsa deisel when I don't drive 'frugally'!

X¬D

[flawns]

@wordreet nice but this is a bimmer, bonus with the women . its alot newer. and im pretty sure this looks better :]

[Annaukhi]

awesome ..

[esurfer26]

...Jenson Button got his driving license suspended with a BMW 3 series diesel.

It is way to go! I wanna buy a 1 series diesel if they have one.

[sspope]

@esurfer26

That's the whole point. People with very powerful petrol cars don't lose their license so often, because they only floor the car occasionally, but BMW 3-series 2.0 diesel is the fastest driven most ticketed car ever. Most drivers drive it fast constantly because it always gets good fuel economy.

[ddnn3]

BOR ING

I thought beemers are all about the driving experience...not econ.

[CometMcNaught]

He misses the point in his summing up. BMW's philosophy is all about getting improved fuel economy WITHOUT sacrificing any driving pleasure. There are plenty of other manufacturers doing that trade-off. I don't think BMW is interested in doing that.

[Coderoid]

@CometMcNaught - you are very correct. Driving pleasure is a key aim at BMW. The moment its gone will mark the beginning of the decline. One hopes that moment never comes.

[12valvepower1]

electric cars are dull as hell. diesel is ftw

[12valvepower1]

@CometMcNaught bmw 120d on gt5. is awesome

[12valvepower1]

142 mph is goooooood in 2 litres.

[StalePhish]

My daily driver is a 2007 Pontiac G5 (same thing as a Chevy Cobalt), and I get 36 mpg (which is 43 mpg Imperial). And it only cost me $14k (11k euro, 9.5k GBP). Nice deal I must say

[bmwboi88]

Does anyone know if its coming to the states?? You guys get all the good cars!!

[ahgjhghj]

i live bmw 635d diesel:X

[dobropivo]

nice car love beemers

[245thegreat]

bmw = bullshitters

[sspope]

@245thegreat

we care

[FutureMarine246]

my 2001 buick regal has more hp than this

[foteriano]

@FutureMarine246 your regal isn't a diesel ;)

[arde2468]

@FutureMarine246 So? is it as efficient as this one? this car is about efficiency, not power!

[sspope]

@FutureMarine246 Good, but does it get at least a quarter of mpgs of this one?

[FutureMarine246]

@sspope touche

[sspope]

@FutureMarine246 douche...

[amaan08051994]

But then what's the point? If they lessen driving pleasure and maximise fuel efficiency, then it won't be a BMW anymore! You don't drive a BMW to count fuel economy figures, you drive it for the sheer fun. What this provides you is pretty good mileage, along with the strong driving virtues of a Bimmer. What more do you expect?

[MrCooltoni]

320d !!? no no 335i thats the best 3 without the M

[xxaroxx]

BMW should consider re-naming the 320d ED. it's name currently sounds like a coy advertisement for Viagra.

[alphie10]

Fuck these adverts

[andyKCIUK]

BMW should spend a bit of time designing new interior for the 3-series. This one sucks badly, Hyundai I30's is way better... lol

BMWs start from 5-series for me.

[ShizoluckyShizostar]

Why risk looking like a ... if you don't get what the 3-series is good for? If you want better ride and fuel economy why not buy a Citroen?

[DBerkwood]

@ShizoluckyShizostar Exactly. A BMW should be about driving pleasure. That's why it's called 'Efficient Dynamics' They still wanted to make a great drivers car. Beat that Toyota!!

[desimunda116]

@DBerkwood yeah if i ever get a diesel it'll be a bmw for sure

[oOADROo]

@DBerkwood Well Toyota builds a better 4x4 than BMW and more reliable so Beat that BMW!!

[fawaz84]

boring car

[oOADROo]

@fawaz84 yes mr fawaz it is boring

[T3HNZ0]

did i hear 70 mpg? or am i wrong? wow

[randomdude10010]

When are they going to start bringing these cars to America? I know they wouldn't sell like hotcakes, but can't they make it an option to have my new car be a diesel?

[guitaristwagner]

@randomdude10010 they have a 335d in america and maybe another one i cant think of, buty not a 320d dont ask me why, americas stupid.

[randomdude10010]

@guitaristwagner Yeah, our car selection is so far behind everyone else's. I watch this and Top Gear and I'm like, "Damnit! Why can't I have those?!?" Love America, hate our cars!

[bmwboi88]

@randomdude10010 Yea seriously! What is wrong with this picture? A lot of these euro cars would soar off the showroom! I dunno...

[bg1379]

@randomdude10010

Bear in mind that the Imperial gallon is different than the American gallon. . . so this fuel economy is more along the lines of 41 mpg in our country.

[Amazetbm]

@bg1379 Which is still excellent for a non-hybrid car.

[bg1379]

@Amazetbm

Our 335d gets 36, which isn't that far behind. . . . especially when it is MUCH faster!

[kibcubed]

@bg1379 You do pay through the nose for a 335d, though, when compared to a 320d.

[mada88]

@kibcubed yeah but a 335d is worth it.

[ERTroadtrip]

@randomdude10010 its funny the grass is always greener on the other side. I drive an American car in the UK (Camaro) BMW 320s are just so common here they do not seem special I used to drive a 530d. Euro cars are too good they are boring I like the fact the camaro handles like a boat; its more fun :-)

[michiel1551]

Awesome car, obvious choice for leasing drivers

[TheBigboySid]

the most beautiful 60mpg car ever .