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  • i will never forget 9/11. a childhood friend was in those towers. he was killed. my best friend is in Afghanistan and people there shoot at him first. he has vowed to never shoot at anyone unless they shoot first. my older cousin is also in Afghanistan fighting for our freedom as well. my older brother is also in the military in training to be a doctor so when he deploys he'll be able to help the soldiers.  they really are fighting for us and not for just the government.

  • This video i heart droping

  • LOLLIN A 9/11 VICTIMS AND FAMILIES. FUCK THIS SONG

  • The 6863 people like this video.

    Wow, so many people liked our false flag operation.

  • The 373 people who don't like this video should be shot.

  • 1994 was when the first action by the Taliban (taliban means group of students, talib means student) occurred. A Kandahar warlord has abducted two girls and kept them at his military base where they were being gang-raped. The girls families asked a local teacher (Mohammed Omar) for help. Thirty talibs with just 16 automatic rifles attacked the base, freed the girls, and executed the warlord by hanging him from his tanks barrel.

  • i WILL NEVEVER FORGET !!!!!!!!!!!

  • this is still so terribly horrific ~ feels just like yesterday.

  • and all you people said bush is stupid obama would went to war but he did he did hes job. his job iis to protec our country he went to war thats his job. cuz of the democrats and the media they blamed him for everthing and still are and hes been out of office for almost 4 years.

  • Did you convenniently forget that Bush lied about WMD's

    and probably was complicit with the 9/11 terrorists.

  • @lesdoyle2000 Uh-huh. and Bush was behind the first attack on the Trade center in '93? Or do you even know about that attack?

  • @HolinessWarrior

    I don't about the 93 world trade attack but after researching 9/11 it is obvious that Bush was complicit.

  • @lesdoyle2000 Don't believe everything you read on the Internet my friend. So the Taliban was responsible for the attack in 93, but Bush did the attack on 9/11 so he could kill off thousands of Americans and then go spend billions and trillions in a war just for oil? Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense!

  • @HolinessWarrior

    Your an idiot.

    "So the Taliban was responsible for the attack in 93," FAIL

    The Taliban didn't exist in 93.

  • @lesdoyle2000 Fine, Jihad, idk what the freaks call themselves. The fact that you would send me a pm as long as my arm is appalling. So I'm gunna tell you the same thing I told the other guy. Get off the computer and stop playing white house. Either go do something about it or just stop complaining already. Secondly, drop to your knees and thank God you're not from a country in Europe or any of the other countries that would LOVE to have our government! Because we truly r the best. So shut up.

  • @HolinessWarrior

    You claim integrity in your profile. FAIL

    I was curious how you would react when corrected. You obviously don't appreciate being told the truth when you make a mistake.

  • @lesdoyle2000 Oh brother. You know what? I'm wasting my precious time on you and your ever so important life of youtube. So good day troll.

  • @HolinessWarrior FAIL

    Ditto kiddo

  • @HolinessWarrior

    Bush didn't spend a cent on the oil wars.

    American taxpayers paid.

    $52million Clinton porking Monica investigation cost

    $75million Bonds taking steroids investigation cost

    $175million Columbia Space Shuttle investigation cost

    and then we have the 9/11 investigation headed by a PR man not even a Judge.

    wait for it...

    $15million for 9/11 investigation (or was it just a cover up) after the original $3million budgeted caused an uproar.

  • @mskizmiass Would you seriously use your head for once? It's as simple as this. THERE IS A REASON you're not the president. And there's a reason you're sitting on a computer complaining about our government instead of doing something about it. So it was the poor taxpayers spending all the money huh? Well how about this, Bush had that money anyway! He wouldn't have spent it on an unnecessary war if he didn't have to. Now get off your computer and stop playing white house.

  • if you need the note at the beginnig of the video to know what war he is talking about you dont need to be on this video

  • I will never forget the loved ones lost and i will never forget the troops lost GOD BLESS THE MEN WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORES WE LOVE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR OUR FREEDOM WITHOUT YOU WE WOULD NOT BE FREE AS AMERICANS WE OWE YOU EVERYTHING

  • what kind of heartless person would dislike this?

  • Operation Suzannah. Israel uses false flag terrorist attacks on American targets in Cairo to get US to side with Israel and damage US Egypt relations. Israel finally admitted responsibility in 2005 when it honoured 3 surviving spies.

    (SOURCE)

    “Global Terrorism” by, James M Lutz, Brenda J Lutz 2004 p46

  • No and I never will

  • Thanks for posting

  • God bless America

  • I have not forgotten

  • Happy Day Binladen is dead

  • @PhantomJLH07 SHUT UP I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS ALSO 343 FDNY FIREFIGHTERS DIED BECAUSE OF THE TERRORISTS AND LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.......HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN???????????????

  • @Unionfirecompany2fan I support this video I don't support the other one thats why I want some one to make this a video response to the other video because the girl on that video is an idiot, I never said anything about not liking this video.

  • Please make this a video response to: Why I don't support the troops

  • Maybe most people don't support the troops because Iraq and Afghanistan were not involved in 9/11.

  • @PhantomJLH07 If you dont like this video thats fine. If you dont support the troops you can go fuck yourself.

  • @bwally189 I do like this video I don't like the girl on the Why I do not support the troops thats why I want someone to make this a video response to that video. Im joining the marines when I get off my mission in two years.

  • @PhantomJLH07

    If you don't support the girl on "why I don't support the troops" then why don't you prove her facts wrong?

    But you can't do that. LOL

  • @kmtrockz1 thanks, come back safe and may your bullets find their mark

  • hell yea after 9/11 were out looking for a fight

  • Im a 17 year old who remembers and who just enlisted in the USMC! flight 93 you fought back, now its our turn Oorah!

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  • @tedmania4 Did you not just watch this video? We where attacked. Leave this great country if thats how you feel.

  • @tedmania4 if it was over oil WHERE IS ALL THE OIL MONEY? just a thought implying that US "imperialists" take over other countries and exploit the indigenous and take their resources is Marxist propaganda 101 so i must ask myself... who's side are you on?

  • i think people should be thanful for the u.s., if it werent for us hitler would have tookin over europe, japan would would have tookin over austrailia, who cares if u,s, is benifitting from the war in irag and afganistan, ur not supposed to look a gift horse in the mouth, if the u.s. deosnt handle the terriost problem they may become another nuclear power and so far they have greatly misused the power they hav. live and let live works both ways

  • this war isn't over oil look at the images on this video we are fighting so this doesn't happen again, there fighting so you can go to work without a worry of a bomb going off or some other terrorist attack, That's what there defend from so before you go and open your mouth with ignorance check your facts

  • John Maresca of Unocal tells congress that to access the $20 trillion in Caspian Sea oil the only possible route is a pipeline across Afghanistan. To build this pipeline US needs regime change in Afghanistan to appease bankers and Unocal.

    (SOURCE)

    Congressional Record 12 Feb 1998

    hmmmmm. I wonder what is the best way to sell this war? Maybe Operation Northwoods

  • What, exactly, is US army defending America from? It only occupies other countries for oil, because it wants to continue to live in luxury. This is the only truth, American filth, deal with it.

  • @mirrr4 not any more. we are leaving that shithole

  • @mirrr4 You are crap, I hope you die a very painful death, very alone.

    

  • what i cannot stand is people talking crap about my country just because they hate her. i live in cyprus and i know what is like in this modern soviet union. people hate america, when i ask them why all they say is ''they kill people and they destroy countries, they steal other countries oil they only care about them selves they want to control us all''. this is what they can come up with. and i come here in front of all the people who see this video and i proudly say: BULLSHIT. jealous bastards

  • Why do you think Iraq was invaded by US?

    I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts and having a laugh since you don't think it was for oil.

  • @lesdoyle2000 We get 3% of the oil used in the US from Iraq. And the US gets less oil today from Iraq than before 9/11, 4.5% of the total oil used in the US in 2001. And the amount of oil from the Persian Gulf has also decreased, from around 16% in 2001 to around 11%. If the Iraq War is all about oil, then the US has spent a lot of money and resources to topple Saddam, run elections, and train the military/police to get less oil from Iraq and the Persian Gulf region.

  • @mij9179

    We stopped Iraq selling oil for euro's.

    We stopped Libya selling oil for gold

    Now we will try and stop Iran selling oil for Rubles, Yuan and Rupee as soon as the war crazy Republicans (Ron Paul excepted) get back in power. How will this war be sold to US. Maybe another 9/11, operation northwoods or Nurse Neyra BS.

  • @lesdoyle2000 i think @mij9179 answered this to you.

  • 1. The Iraq Oil Ministry was the only Government building not looted and was guarded by US tanks.

    2. Australian Defence Minister Brendan Nelson has admitted that oil is a key factor behind the presence of Australian troops in Iraq.

    3. Alan Greenspan (Chairman of the Federal Reserve) admitted that the Iraq war was for oil.

    4. UK invaded for oil was exposed by Greg Muttitt.

    5. Cheney ilegally didn't file the Iraq energy contracts as required under US law citing his executive privilege.

  • I haven't forgotten, This is the reason why I leave this summer to basic training I love this country and Ill defend her flag with my life if I have to.

  • Stop fighting on here, show some respect.

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  • i was in the thrid grad when this happened i was so scared when they told us what was going on they put on the tv i was crying because my uncal worked there thank god he lived

  • @slaughter854 then get the fuck out of my country, and maybe one day my sights can be at your stupid ass

  • im only 17 and im already swearing in my oath to the marines in january, i am going to fight for all that we have lost and all that still remain in our mother country....our home....i will do whatever it takes to make sure every1 can have a good and happy life here in america!

  • @zealotangel i'm only 17 too and i have to say, i admire you. i want to thank you and may god bless you.

    May God Bless The USA

  • @zealotangel

    Your a dumbfuck

    How will killing women and kids for oil companies lead to a happy life?

    18 veterans kill themselves everyday

  • @zealotangel My dad's retired from the Marine Corp. I myself am enlisted in the NYARNG and I leave for BT tomorrow.

  • @udabonz

    Just in time for the Iran war.

    I pray you get everything you deserve

    Live by the sword, DIE by the sword Mathew26:52

  • @zealotangel

    What have we lost that you wish to fight for?

  • you are all children the terrorists attacked because we have freedom we are different from them and you are supporting them you should be ashamed of yourself you should be grateful a soldier dosent shoot you now for saying that vulgar stuff if you dissagree dont watch the vidio or comment you retards

  • @MegaZero76

    If terrorists hate us for our freedom, why haven't they attacked countries like Switzerland?

  • o ya u cookey ass holes war got us in this mess if we wernt ignerent and got into this shit at kowait maybe this would have happend

  • @germanblade2 We can really tell your a high school drop out, so intelligence isn't high on your list of priorities. Could explain your lack of sense in the comments you've made and the utter stupidity.

  • @germanblade2

    learn to speak plz learn to shut yer mouth an learn to stay in yer own country

  • actualy i have for gotin fuck you and ur simphythy just forget it nothings bringing them back there dead six feet under the day u let the fuck go we will move on ive seen people on the brink of death and i dont bitch ive had family die i dont care i lost the love of my life well o well shit happens

  • @germanblade2 guess u dont belong in the usa

  • @germanblade2 Mother fucker have you been shoved to the ground just to roll over with your kbar pull out to see your best friend, brother, fellow marine riddled with holes. You jump to your feet grab the insergent by the neck jam your kbar in his chest as far as you can twisting it watching the life that took your brothers bleed out onto your boots. Until you have you don't know the meaning of loss you misserable fuck.

  • @germanblade2 i hope u know u r an asshole who doesnt have a heart!

  • My best friend was in the army and we have been friends for our whole lifes im 19 and we have been through everything from elementary and his helicopter got hot down and i dont even know where my buddy is right now. it makes me rly upset to know that inicent lives are lost to protect people like me and you and i will never forget our fallen soldiers and promise you buddy if you can see this i love you bro. and i know you are in a greater place than this and i love you bro and i miss you ;(

  • @SnootieREVPK Honor the dead fight like hell for the living.

  • how dare those fuck heads come over here and attack us like that i dont care what anyones says we shouldve went to war and bush did the right thing

  • there is two kinds of people in the usa the ones who suport the troops and the ones that treat them like shit so thank you to all that served and fuck you to the ones that treat them like shit

  • Joined at 17, leaving for Basic in July. 11Bang-bang !

  • @Pohnpeiann "11Bang-bang", really, if this post is any indication of your attitude, the DI's are really going to like you. How do I know this? I was an Airborne Infantry Sergeant.

  • @TheBardicDruid Oh my , I'm going to try and get into airborne.

  • @zepheramzarah thats pretty shitty to say, but i see how i obviously care more about my country and the people in it...and i still will fight for you so you can continue you living your insignificant life, so you can badmouth 15 year olds who is risking life and limb to keep our country the way it is

  • now let me tell you plain simple you knock down are buildings well take a couple of your countries tell mister bin laden his army of 70 virgins we can play games

  • How the hell can anybody forget when hicks like this are constantly reminding us with their moronic, jingoistic songs? Seriously, nobody from my generation or even the next 2 generations will forget the horrible events of that day, so my conclusion is that the person who wrote and performed this song did it for the sole purpose of turning a profit for him/her/their selves.

  • if this video doesn't make you love your country nothing will. When i am 18 i will fight to keep this country safe

  • @35skeller goodluck, as soon as i graduate im joining too

  • You morons forgot about ALCIADA and WTC7. but don't feel bad, Hitler also did a 9/11

  • I say God bless our Soldiers.

  • its weird to them we are terrorists... and vice versa for us.. wonder when we will wake up and realize.. pretty much everyone needs each other in this day and time. if not killing each other.. we are dying off from infections, cancers, most of all hatred. maybe if we take the chance to step back.. and say.. what if i was in their shoes?..no matter what race/religion/ or backround your from.. but in my shoes. im proud to be an american and where im from... despite some views of running a country.

  • Bush may not have been a great president, but 9/11 was an event that wounded the nation in a way that it had never been hit before, and no commander in chief could have had an appropriate reaction; all that we could do was scramble everything we had and try to move all our resources into the areas attacked. People criticise the NATO invasions in the Middle East, but after 9/11 we were, without question, going to war with someone. The nation knew that someone had to pay for this. They did.

  • @ProudToBeACountryBoy Dude I'm 100% with you this is honestly the song the will bring a tear yo my eye everytime. I even wrote a poem on 9/11/11 and I say it's wanna my best poems yet. I'm 15 to and as soon as I turn 18 U.S. Army here I come I will not ever forget that horrible day idc even if I was in kindergarden or not!

  • I will never forget that day. DAMN TERRORISTS!

  • I remember exactly where I was when I first saw the news that horrible day. It was partially because of this event that I signed up for the military less than a month after I turned 17. No I have not forgotten and never will.

  • im 15, and the day i turn 18 i will fight for all of you...never forget god bless

  • @ProudToBeACountryBoy same here bro and ill be right there on the front lines with you

  • @ProudToBeACountryBoy You will not be fighting for me or the other 99% of the country, you will be fighting for political idealogues and chickenhawks (not to mention the men & women standing next to you), or simplified, American hegemony. It is unsustainable, spending trillions on wars. If things continue the way the have been, expect wars in Iran and North Korea in the next 10 years. They can offer true resistance, unlike the Afghans and Iraqi's who were working with very few resources.

  • @ProudToBeACountryBoy I wouldn't fight for no damn nigger and I sure in the hell wouldn't fight for this country......

  • @slaughter854 And your nothing but an illegal alien that needs to be deported. So apparently you won't even stand for your own country, what a coward.

  • @slaughter854 anybody ever tell you there is a diffrence between a nigger and a black man? you my friend are a nigger... yes im white and a 21 year old retiree (medically retired from wounds recieved in action)

  • @slaughter854 Thats messed y don't you go live in afganistan and get shot by 1 of our soldiers

  • @slaughter854

    dude seriously get the hell outta country music cuz all these people luv our great country hell look at toby keith

  • @zzzaaannn2 Lol I live in this shitty ass country and I wouldn't go fight for no nigger that lies about everything...... Oh I love the country but I wouldn't fight for the dumb nigger.

  • @slaughter854 jesus christ get over yer self an im bettin yer a nigger cuz niggers arent just african amercian they r just people that dont work an live off of welfare an shit they dont give a rats ass bout any one except them selves dont judge unles su want to be judged

  • @ProudToBeACountryBoy

    I'm looking forward to watching you die in Iran for oil.

    The Republican nutters (Ron Paul excepted) will have to do another 9/11 or Nurse Nayirah so you can die for oil 1st.

  • @lesdoyle2000 the armed forces wouldn't put up with their comrades and brothers dying just because of oil. all the people in Afghanistan and before that Iraq are all fighting to keep your sorry ass safe

  • @ProudToBeACountryBoy thats amazing....I'm 14 and im going to get my parents to sign the form wen im 17...cant wait to serve!!

  • @ProudToBeACountryBoy good job buddy im leaving for combat in three weeks and its good to see kids coming up with a dream like that i wish you the best of luck go for the marines

  • hes in gone so is the wtc and part of the pentagone r.i.p 9/11

  • im a lucky 1 i was brn in ncy my sis was brn in dc i almost got killed that day

  • i whis they would

  • they should

    

  • I remember the day well, by noon I was at the closet Army Post, I had got a phone call to report. After about 4 hours of waiting, they told me I was to old and sent me home. Saying I was pissed is an understatement, I was already counter terrorism trained, also airborne, air assault and sniper trained. And they sent me home.

  • @TheBardicDruid it is BS isn't it?

  • im from a small town in OKLAHOMA and i pray for our soldiers every day . and with hope they all come back home.

  • This was such a touching video. September 11th 2001 was a day never forgotton. over 300 peopole died godd bless the usa

  • i just found out that one of my best friends from high school was killed this week over in afgenistan. He and i went to school from elementry to high school and through training, and i remember the words he said on that day. What he said inspired me to do the exact same He and i went through our entire training together then got seperated when over there, i got moved to another unit and i saw him about a week before he went back over. He was a true soldier,

    R.I.P Allen Hicks

  • @MUSICFREAK101ish Im so sorry :(

    

  • @MUSICFREAK101ish

    If your going to invade countries for oil then you can't be surprised if the soldiers come home in a box.

    God bless the women and kids killed for oil

  • @lesdoyle2000

    dude have some compassion have some respect have some sense shut up listen to the song an dont but into things u dont understand

  • @zzzaaannn2

    Your right.

    I don't understand how you can approve killing people for oil.

    I pray the soldiers get everything they deserve just like musicfreaks best friend.

    "live by the sword die by the sword" Mathew 28:52

  • @lesdoyle2000

    ok look u dont need to throw god in my face im sayin that if u live in the usa u probly shouldnt be trottin out over the internet that u think the soldiers should all die keep yer mouth shut on here or u will get verbally bashed

  • Allen Hicks was killed. Karma

    Respect to the Afghan freedom fighters.

  • Allen Hicks was a true soldier

    but now he is opium fertilizer

    hahahaha

    Happy New Year

  • NO THEY SHOULD PUT THE VIDEOS OF WHAT HAPPEN THAT DAY BACK ON TV AND GET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THINKING WHERE WERE YOU WHEN IT HAPPENED I KNOW WERE I WAS AND PUT A REMINDER THERE SO EVERY TIME I AM IN THAT PART OF MY HOUSE I REMEMBER THAT DAY TO MANY PEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT DAY AND WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE AND WHO AND HOW MANY WERE LOST THAT DAY

  • This song needs more airtime!

    

  • Please no one take this the wrong way....I will never forget what happened that day, nor will I ever forget how terrifying it was for me and my family personally, since my aunt lives near the towers (my aunt is now dying from lung cancer that she got while inhaling all those chemicals trying to find survivors for weeks.) and I wish this had never happened, but it did give a lot of Americans a much needed wake up call that not everyone is going to bow down to us, and we are not immune to tragedy.

  • @SarahShapeShifter i could not agree more it did wake up alot of people who took this for granted.

  • i'm Dutch, i was studyin in the American School of Brasilia (Brazil), remember all my teachers crying and we sang the USA Anthem. also remember that that was the only day that i ever saw my dad cry.....

  • Apparently a lot of stupid people have forgotten and are more worried about a nonexistent ad. I watched this three times and there is no ad, the idiots are just trying to distract attention away from the message of this video. I REMEMBER, the same way my father remembered Pearl Harbor until he passed away. I WILL NOT LAY DOWN, I will stand and fight any enemy of America, just the way the Army trained me to.

  • @TheBardicDruid Roger that. I'm with ya......

  • @TheBardicDruid Thank you so much

  • HELL NO.. I havn't forgotten. I dont think anybody will..

  • i will never foget

  • This vid sends chills up my spine and to my head. Why do they attack us? why not another contry?

    This is what i say about terrorist:

    F*** YOU!

  • @uhhinedaname stand uo to them make them bring it back if enough ppl get behind u they have to bring it back

  • I haven't!

  • why did they remove the pledge of alligence from school? I don't even think there is a flag in the school to begin with.

  • @uhhineedaname they cant take it out of school.ik they think they can but stand up to them. show them whats right and bring it back. i have gotten into so much trouble standing up for what i believe in that its unreal. but idc care cause in the end i Always won. ♥ Stand up for what you believe in and you will always win!

  • This is an amazing song.. I hate when people say they hate america or they hate something like the soldiers and all that. Thats really not something you say around a future navy seal. This girl told me that and me and all my friends who are getting ready to join stood up and defended our country, we gave her a lesson she wont forget. God Bless America!

  • There are 366 people that have a bomb on there chest. they can go to hell! U.S of FUCKING A!!!!!!!! song gives me chills.:)

  • @duckhunt1775 You hit the nail on the head! i totally agree!

  • i still cry every time i hear this song and then i get pissed off

  • cry cry

    

  • i will never forget this day i was so scared when the towers fell.i just wish that everybody in this world could live in peace.RIP to all of the family members who have lost someone in the horrible attacks on 9/11

  • FUCK ILLUMINATI

  • ,,inside job, duh!

  • @wolfdaddy205 Even if it was an inside job, 2,977 innocent people died that day. That fact can't be debated. The people who disliked this video are just flat-out disrespecting them.

  • uhh 9/11 has nothing to do with Afghan and Iraq... sorry but its just true, only true evil in the world is Government... look at all the pictures of soldiers in Afghan, they are all with afghani children and the children are all happy. how the hell can you call them terrorists??? get our troops out of there and stop this propaganda shit, no soldier knows why we are in that war ( at least no soldier i have met)

  • anyone who dislikes this can go suck dead osama dick. my older brother died in the second tower. SO FUCK YOU ALL HATERS

  • i disliked this video...because the fuck who posted it is profiting of off my dads death take the add off your fucking prick,

  • @EPICXBOXGAM3ING I lost someone too but my team got revenge on osama

  • ok who the hell disliked this wait 363 people are muslim

  • what kind od sick fuck would really plan to kill inocent people ?? makes me sick and really sad. its unbelivable that this happend right here in the good ol usa

  • never have........and never will forget

    

  • oh so sad that it was ten years ago, the happiest day of my life. I would love to see it again

  • @mikri87bg Go back to ur fuckin cave in afganistan u goddamn terrorist

  • @Imthevideoman1 why in cave? iam born in a civilized country.you and your fucking country are protecting afghanistans and other muslim freaks. keep protecting them and they will do many thing like this in near future.

  • @mikri87bg Faggot

  • @chazzycat1992 your daddy is a faggot

  • @mikri87bg No, that would be your mommy, the one that found you in a dumpster

  • @mikri87bg you need to go and get the hell out of a americans country and be with bin laden right now in the fucking sea!!!!!!!!!!

  • @TheTEX4938 do you know what you wanted to say

  • @mikri87bg let me make it clear KISS MY AMERICAN ASS AND FUCKING GO TO HELL!!!!!!

  • @mikri87bg Hey pussy rot in hell and go play with oshama. O ya tell your mom that the tips under the pillow, I need my pants back and i didnt fart last night it was the condom breaking tell you little sibling dadys a guy with mad military pride bitch

  • @mikri87bg where do you live so i can kick your fat little ass and also are you 7

  • @TheTEX4938 you are talking like some kind of pedophil

  • @mikri87bg you are some kind of whore

  • @TheTEX4938 What do you want? If you want hard dick you'll get it. Don't answer on my comments.

  • @mikri87bg its a fucking free country bitch so i can kick your ass if i wanted to keep talking and i will assfuck

  • @mikri87bg Are you serious when you say that it was fun to see over 2 000 civilians die, people that had families and children. When you really want 9/11 to happen again, think a second time. If there had been no 9/11, then it would most propably never have been a Afghanistan or Iraq war...