Brawl Hacking Tutorial [2]: Alternate methods {SmashStack and Riivolution}

[supersonic579]

can u use a nintendo dsi sd card as long as everything is erased

[shock44]

@supersonic579 as long as it is not a SDHC card it should work well. SDHC is any SD card that is over 2GB in size.

[supersonic579]

@shock44 one more question what if other stuff is on it will it work

[shock44]

@supersonic579 Yes it will work still.

[footieboy50]

@shock44 do i need the ocarina app becuse ocarina is outdated and doesnt work anymore.... and also could you give me the codes i need for riivolution

[shock44]

@footieboy50 The riivolution stuff that you need is in a zip file in the description of this video. Download that and extract it to your sd card. Also, ocarina is the only option for doing codes for riivolution users at the moment. There is no way of using the Gecko codes system yet for some strange reason they haven't done that for riivolution yet. But I don't find it an issue because all codes work fine except for stage expansion code.

[RassclartMadJ]

@shock44 yo dude i done everythin but at 3:09 that dont come up on mine,my version is 4.3E i got a 2 gb sd card,where have i gone wrong?

[shock44]

@RassclartMadJ I don't know. Did you follow the steps right? Did you get rid of every single custom stage in the stage builder on your Wii? Even the sample ones? Did you put the boot.elf in your sd card and did you put the private folder in your sd card that comes with the smashstack download and then before that you renamed your previous private folder to privateold?

[sonicthewerehog3342]

@shock44 I did everything that you just said but it still doesn't work.I'm making a video so you can see if any has gone wrong or is uncorrect

[shock44]

@sonicthewerehog3342 Okay just send me the video in a PM when you have it uploaded.

[sonicthewerehog3342]

@shock44 ok the video might be low quality because my HD camera is acting weird

[RassclartMadJ]

@shock44 Yeah i think the problem is that .ELF files are'nt working anymore so i must convert it to .DOL files which takes a shit load of time because this is what the hackmii_installer READ ME HBC file tells me "Old ELF files were incorrect and will not work. Please use DOL files or

recompile with the latest version of devkitPPC. You can use the following

command to convert a broken ELF file to a DOL file: powerpc-gekko-objcopy -O binary boot.elf boot.dol"

[sonicthewerehog3342]

@RassclartMadJ yeah,that happens to me too.I don't get it

[brawlfann14]

so this can work for PAL and have everything able to patch (CSPs, music etc)?

[shock44]

@brawlfann14 It should work for PAL but good luck trying to replace sound effects in PAL because I don't know how to fix that because most hacks are made for NTSC sound effects.

[brawlfann14]

@shock44 it does work, but do you know about getting the unrestricted pause camera code or any others for riivolution?

[shock44]

@brawlfann14 Use these codes in a GCT and load them with the ocarina code template. Infinite Replays 040E5DE8 60000000 04953184 60000000 04953224 60000000Unrestricted Pause camera 040A7D60 4E800020 04109D88 38800001 Unrestricted Replay Camera (6 lines) 0409E934 60000000 0409E93C 60000000 0409E9AC FC201890 0409E9B8 FC600090 0409E9BC FC000890 0409E9C8 FC001890

[brawlfann14]

@shock44 ive tried, even with the actual PAL codes they dont appear on riivolution, is there anything else i have to do?

[shock44]

@brawlfann14 I don't think so. Then again these are NTSC codes I gave you.

[DublityOshawott905]

hi I have a question

Can you add other codes to riivolution a part from the texture code and if so how?

[shock44]

@DublityOshawott905 Yes you must use ocarina code manager on your computer and then export the codes to a GCT file.

[DublityOshawott905]

@shock44 then load them through riivolution? cause when I use cheat manager then went on riivolution it didn't work and I want to load my textures AND have a code on at the same time (for brawl machinimas)

[shock44]

@DublityOshawott905 Yea you load the GCT file in your codes folder on your sd card by using the ocarina template on riivolution. Btw did you happen to find that code for moving the camera around with the 4th controller cuz i cant find that one and i heard it is possible.

[DublityOshawott905]

@shock44 soz I haven't seen it but thanks for telling me how to do it :D now I can TRY and do a machinima similar to smashtasm :)

[shock44]

@DublityOshawott905 Cool. Good luck.

[DublityOshawott905]

@shock44 wait 2 more things 1. do you know the unrestricted replay camera for PAL? if you do can you give it to me plz by pm and if your talking about the unrestricted pause code then yes I do know the code

[L3phili3Tjosh]

@DublityOshawott905 Unrestricted replay camera

0409FFFC 60000000

040A0004 60000000

040A0070 FC201890

040A007C FC600090

040A0080 FC000890

040A008C FC001890

Pretty sure that's PAL

[DublityOshawott905]

@L3phili3Tjosh it is PAL but when I try it out I can't really zoom in or out properly

[wwwwario]

Um, it's me again. Just a quick question. I'm hacking, as you know, using Gecko. But i read that i need this Riivolution thingy for importing sound effects. So i found out that Riivolution is a kind-of Gecko program. But if i use Riivolution, will i lose everything i've done in Gecko, and have to do it again different in Riivolution? Or can i just run it on Riivolution and it will work the same?

[shock44]

@wwwwario It will work almost the same in Riivolution as it does in Gecko AS LONG AS you use the File Patch Replacement Template. Only difference with Riivolution is you can't use the sc_selcharacter.pac, you have to use common5_en.pac (and it must be named exactly that, not common5.pac) Also some stages and module files need to have _en.pac in them instead of taking out the _en Other than that everything should transfer well. Except the Spiderman psa hack needs some adjusting.

[wwwwario]

@shock44 Ok, thanks! I'm PAL user, so i only have the File Replacement code, i think. Not the SD loader and the Dynamic SD loader thing. So that is OK? I hope i can transfer all from sc_selcharacter.pac to common5_en.pac, so i don't need to put in all the CSP and CSS pics again :P Then i'll try :D Switch over to Riivolution and i can tell you how it goes. I just want the voices and sound effects of characters, and the narrator to say their new names :D And fix some freezes, if i can

[shock44]

@wwwwario Make sure it is the File Patch Replacement Code TEMPLATE and not the GCT ocarina codes. Those don't work for Riivolution. It must be the template that is in the video description download of this video. Easiest way to put sc_selcharacter.pac over to common5_en.pac is to open common5_en.pac in brawlbox and right click the words sc_selcharacter and then click replace and then go find your sc_selcharacter.pac and click okay. Follow my sound effects tutorial for voices and stuff.

[wwwwario]

@shock44 Once again, thanks! :) I'll try to switch to Riivolution. Then i'll change to common5_en.pac, and i'll try how it works. Oh, and remove the "Codes" folder, and imput the TEMPLATE ;) But, my game freezes alot, that's my major problemo. Nearly 50% of the PSAs and textures i imput freezes the game when i start a match. And when i downloaded a stage hack, i put the .pac file in the pf/stage/melee, and the .rel in pf/module, and it froze. Also the game freezes after alot of matches

[shock44]

@wwwwario That is really strange. I don't know what could be causing that.

[Richu135]

ok i did wat u said, and i went to homebrew , then riivolution, then hit load....then Everything Failed!!!! and then it sent me back to the wii menu!

[shock44]

@Richu135 Well, I can't really figure out what the problem is. If you're using the file patch code on a code GCT file then you're doing it wrong. But if you're using the file patch code template for riivolution that should work no problem.

[Richu135]

@shock44 how do i kno if im using the GCT file or if im using the file patch code template or not? i dont kno the difference

[shock44]

@Richu135 The GCT is the file that goes in the codes folder and the template is the xml file that is in your riivolution folder. When you open riivolution look for the words File Patch Replacement code at the top left of the screen and it should have it enabled. Then to find out if you are using the GCT you must know by knowing what codes you enabled for the GCT file that you placed in your codes folder in your sd card.

[ciheful1]

@shock44 hi which folder do i put riivolution

[Richu135]

I just ran out of memory on my sd card but now i have an SDHC card and my hacks arnt working! WAT DO I DOOO????

[ShadowSniper961]

@Richu135 sdhc cards dont work i had one of those to...-.-

[Richu135]

@ShadowSniper961 then wat do i use?

[shock44]

@Richu135 An SD card that is 2GB or lower.

[Richu135]

@shock44 I see, so there is no other kind of card i can use other than the wii sd card tht is 2gb correct?

[shock44]

@Richu135 It doesn't have to be a Wii made SD card. I got mine from a company called SanDisk. I've heard Lexar will work too. Just make sure it is 2gb or lower. Though I've heard that SOME homebrew programs will accept SDHCs but I don't know which ones.

[teamdre9]

so when u do the codes file for rivvolution ocarina do i just put it in the root of my sd card or what how should the folders be made

[shock44]

@teamdre9 The GCT file which is the codes file needs to be put in the codes folder on your sd card.

[masterstivie]

you should make a tutorial with modlauncher because ocarina is not compatible with riivolution newer version.

[shock44]

@masterstivie that's strange.

[masterstivie]

My question is why the hell riivolution doesn't want to read the CSP and many other custom, but gecko does. Because Gecko doesn't read sound so its a choice between sounds and nice custom menu. Also Riivolution doesn't read the GTC at all. I tryed everything but not result to fix this issue. Do you ever had the same issue?

[shock44]

@masterstivie Riivolution will do CSP if you use the common5_en.pac file and not the sel_character_en.pac file. Riivolution will only read GCTs that work for Ocarina codes. So no File Patch Code because that is already a template for Riivolution and some CSS codes and Stage Expansion don't work. Though I remember CSS codes working just fine so i think that works. So just try using the common5_en.pac and not the selcharacter file and you should be good.

[masterstivie]

@shock44 OK thanks in the same time i discovered riivolution use just the file with the same exact name, im gonna test it and give you news. Also i had to use a other way to install my home brew i don't how but somtimes riivolution doesn't start at all, ill just reinstall it.

[lizardon111]

apprently someone said I have to put the Gct. in my pf folder

[shock44]

@lizardon111 that's not where you put it. You put it in the codes folder.

[PlayingGames13]

How many code lines does ocarina handle?

[shock44]

@PlayingGames13 I don't know. All I know is you can't use the file patch replacement code with ocarina because it is too long and that is why I use riivolution because it can do sound effects plus the things that gecko os can do as well.

[shock44]

@ChocoCocoman415 nope it isn't, but you need to have it be named common5_en.pac and not just common5.pac

[shadowfanultimate]

help i want to activate the unrestricted camera with the perfect shadow hack how do i load the cheats do i use a handler

[shock44]

@shadowfanultimate Yes, you need to use the ocarina code template in my riivolution.zip download in the video description. Just extract the folders to your sd card and enable the ocarina and file patch replacement code templates and get the codes you want with code manager and make a GCT file and put it in a codes folder on your sd card and it should work.

[shadowfanultimate]

@shock44 wait you said i use a handler but what and what do you mean file patch CODE do you mean the file replacment thing i have that on thats how i play as shadow and i have the cheat on and i use accio but that may not change anything i used wiixplorer to add the unrestricted camera code and turned it on but WHAT handler do i use then

[shock44]

@shadowfanultimate are you using riivolution?

[shadowfanultimate]

@shock44 yes how else would i play as shadow in brawl

[shock44]

@shadowfanultimate Well the other way is gecko os. I was just making sure you weren't using that. Now, you need to get my riivolution.zip file and extract it to your sd card. Then load riivolution, you should see pages up at the top that you can click the arrows for. Look for the ocarina code handler and enable it by clicking the word disable, if it is not enabled already. I don't know what wiiexplorer can do but just get a GCT file in your codes folder named RSBE.GCT with the code you want.

[shadowfanultimate]

@shock44 i tried every handler and no luck i was even thinking of using wiixplorer to manually replace the files but that would take quite some time to backup the file and then replace them but can you please make a tutorial and if you wont thats fine but can you help me i realy want unrestricted camera with shadow (ps i have ocarina on my sd card and the code works)

[shock44]

@shadowfanultimate did you make sure to have file patch replacement code template on which is in the download link in the video description. Then make sure to follow the tutorial 3 or 4 which shows how to put characters in.

[shadowfanultimate]

@shock44 i can play as shadow the thing that wont work is unrestricted camera it just freezes when i use a handler

[shock44]

@shadowfanultimate Are there any other codes inside the GCT file that you are using besides unrestricted camera?

[shadowfanultimate]

@shock44 no i don't

[shock44]

@ChocoCocoman415 You probably have things in the wrong place or you aren't using common5_en.pac for the character selection screen.

[shock44]

@ChocoCocoman415 Probably just have something in the wrong place or have a code file making riivolution not work right. Check that you don't have a .GCT file that has the file patch replacement code in it and check that your hacks are in the right places.

[BlazeChance1]

dude, the smash stack link isn't working. help!!

[shock44]

@BlazeChance1 That's strange, I just clicked it and tried to download the game and it worked fine for me.

[jsulova26]

hey does the SSBB template need to be in the SSBB folder and what is the setting in the riivolution folder

[shock44]

@jsulova26 I gave a link for you to just export directly to your SD card that puts everything in the right spot for riivolution so you should already have everything in the right places on your SD card when you extract the zip file to your SD card.

[Judai64]

riivolution crashes for me way too often do u know anything that is freeze proof?

[shock44]

@Judai64 Not really. The only 3 ways of doing hacks are gecko os, riivolution and replacing the files manually on the iso and putting it on a usb hard/flash drive. If it is freezing for you alot then that may mean that you need to get rid of something in your hacks that is causing it to freeze. One of your hacks might not be in the right place or has the wrong name or just has glitches.

[CloudXStrife136]

when i go onto brawl stage creator it doesn't work. I have hackmii v0.8 boot.elf and smashstack all on my sd card.

[shock44]

@CloudXStrife136 I don't know what to tell ya.

[CloudXStrife136]

@shock44 how much MB's does your SD card have to have exactly because mine has 512 MB

[shock44]

@CloudXStrife136 That is an okay size but I would recommend 1gb or 2.

[CloudXStrife136]

@shock44 how much is 2 gb?

[shock44]

@CloudXStrife136 2 gigabythes that's 2,000 mb. If you are asking for the price they are about 12 bucks.

[CloudXStrife136]

@shock44 ok thanks, you keep making videos ok?

[shock44]

@CloudXStrife136 Yeah, I'm trying.

[CloudXStrife136]

@shock44 you don't need to, just your thoughts are good videos. This was a fun conversation.

[shock44]

@CloudXStrife136 Yeah I guess.

[CloudXStrife136]

@shock44 yet its still going

[m4r1o148]

@shock44 dude! I got one for 5 bucks

[shock44]

@m4r1o148 That's cool.

[HeavyElixir]

Hey I'm running on 4.3u right now and downloaded and extracted riiviloution but nothing comes up but Launch , Remove and Exit? no codes or ocarina or anything on the left. any help?

[shock44]

@HeavyElixir Look at the top right corner. There should be a number 1. Click the arrows and it should switch to another setting. Find the Ocarina one and turn it on. Then launch the game.

[HeavyElixir]

@shock44 I'm not trying to be stubborn but no number comes up should i make a video response or something showing?

[shock44]

@HeavyElixir well did you download the riivolution in my description and extract the stuff to your sd card?

[HeavyElixir]

@shock44 Yeah Nothing comes up no numbers, no nothing but launch remove and exit

[shock44]

@HeavyElixir Can you check your riivolution folder in your sd card and go into the next folder inside and look for ocarina.xml?

[HeavyElixir]

@shock44 yes its there all i see in the folder is SSBB Files Ocarina CodeHandler and a folder config

[shock44]

@HeavyElixir Well, i dont know what to tell ya man. Other than make sure the riivolution folder is not in the apps folder.

[HeavyElixir]

@shock44 Alright but thanks anyway it helped me a bit on what i'm supposed to do on homebrew ( Sub +1)

[shock44]

@HeavyElixir Thanks, your welcome.

[whirlwind98]

@HeavyElixir Dude have you managed to fix this? :( I'm getting the same problem

[shock44]

@whirlwind98 Use gecko os instead then I guess.

[KingNencha]

when i do every thing and then go 2 homebrew channel nothing appeares? can u explain that

[shock44]

@KingNencha make sure you have your sd card pushed in.

[artamelltendo]

Can you make a tutorial on how to make custom movesets?

[shock44]

@artamelltendo That will come later.

[powerman680]

@shock44 hey shock. What is the program that lets you make new texture hacks?

[shock44]

@powerman680 brawlbox.

[powerman680]

@shock44 so you can use brawlbox to make new textures? then what's the ASH program thing for?

[shock44]

@powerman680 That's the old way of doing it. That method sucks now.

[powerman680]

@shock44 ah ok then thanks.

[powerman680]

@shock44 ok then thanks. that really helped.

[powerman680]

@shock44 thanks. i'll be sure to look at it once you've post it. and also, thanks for telling me how to do the menu hacks. me and my gf really appriciate your help.

[shock44]

@powerman680 I'm glad to help out you guys.

[Solshot2k]

Thanks for this tutorial bud. Helped me a lot :D

[brendan55555555]

Hey thanks for the tutorial and everything but i got to ask you one question. How do i change the voice and sound effect on the "True shadow hack" that you showed in this tutorial:

Brawl Hacking Tutorial 3 part 3: How to go about putting the hacks in Brawl.

Can you please give me a link and istructions on how to do it or could you do a tutorial on how to change the voice and sound effects please

[powerman680]

@shock44 So do you know what i did wrong?

[shock44]

@powerman680 Try using brawlbox 0.63d.

[powerman680]

@shock44 thank you so much! i tried it and it worked. there's still some other stuff that i need to get done, but i'll take it one step at a time now. i really appriciate you helping me with all of this.

So thank you Shock44

[shock44]

@powerman680 Your welcome man.

[powerman680]

@shock44 do you mind if i ask you one more question.

Do you know how to change the Character Mark on the Result Screen? i've changed the Character mark one the MiscData30 already, but that just covered the CSS. If it's not too much trouble.

[shock44]

@powerman680 No I don't know how, no one does yet.

[powerman680]

@shock44 Hey shock i was wondering if you were going to make that video on how to use Hex Workshop. Because i cant seem to add other voice clips like Knuckles or Ryan Drummond Sonic Voice Pak. I've tried and im not sure if i missed any steps or there's something that i didnt do right. Or even if i have the right Hex Workshop. So can you help me out please.

[shock44]

@powerman680 Yeah, I'll be sure to make a vid about that sometime.

[powerman680]

@shock44 well i tried what you told me, and i discovered something weird.

When i imported the CSP's i wanted, Exported them, then re-imported them; i noticed that the names were changed. like it only kept the last three characters. it did this with some of the CSP's and when i tried to change the names and the mark.

Do you know why it did this? Because i think that's why it is freezing on me.

[shock44]

@powerman680 I'm not sure about that. Just make sure they are the same names as the original textures in the file.

[powerman680]

@shock44 i tried that, but everytime i would rename them back to their original names, save them, then open it back up it would just go back to having it show like the last three characters.

i cant figure out how to just keep it from not changing once i rename it back to its original name.

[shock44]

@powerman680 All I can think of is try doing save as and not just save.

[powerman680]

@shock44 well i tried that too. once i did that it just corrupted my file. or it would say that it couldnt save it.

i really cant figure out what's wrong with it.

[shock44]

@powerman680 which version of brawlbox are you using?

[powerman680]

@shock44 well i believe that the brawlbox im using is version 0.67 i think.

[powerman680]

@shock44 actually it's version 0.64.

[powerman680]

@shock44 ok i see, but im still not sure why the CSP's or the Common5.pac's are not working for me on Rivvo.

I tried editing the Knuckles one that has a Common5_en.pac, because that one seems to work on my wii. but everytime i edit it, my wii just freezes at the Character Selection Screen.

I can't figure out why it wont let me add any CSPs. And i don't know exactly how the codes stuff works for Gecko. Also Gecko just freezes my wii, that's why i use Rivvo.

So could you help me please

[shock44]

@powerman680 Okay, here's something that probably will help. Sometimes CSPs don't work because of the format of the picture file. To fix your problem you should import your CSP and then export it and then reimport the export. That way it corrects the format and then it should not freeze, you need to do this for each CSP. Import, export, reimport the new one that you exported.

[powerman680]

@shock44 ok thanks ill try that tomorrow.

ok so you want me to import the CSP that i want, export it, then re-import it right?

[shock44]

@powerman680 Yes. Exactly. Then save the file and try it out.

[cresholicrop]

am not copy thet but am move it to the sd card

[cresholicrop]

and when am test thet folder on thet sd card am go to brawl and to the sage bilder and its ther but am stock and no happens only am stock.

[shock44]

@cresholicrop Did you copy the boot.elf from the hackmii installer onto your sd card?

[cresholicrop]

am lock on the private in the smash stack an am lock on "wii" den "app" den am see its name to the folder is "rsbe" but to the "privateold" am lock thet to and am go to "wii" den "app" den thet name off thet folder is "RSBP" not "rsbe" way its that?

[cresholicrop]

am put the "privateold" in to the smash stack "private"? den am go to wii and put the sd card den play super smash bros brawl?

[cresholicrop]

what am rename the "private" to "privateold" den am download "smashstack" and put the "private" from the "smashstack" to the sd card and rename "privateold" to "private" or what?

[shock44]

@cresholicrop rename private to privateold. download smash stack and put the private in the sd card. Then run brawl like in this video. then name private to smashstack private and then privateold to private.

[kavoncatoe]

does the file patch code v3.5 have the same music thing just like the other patch code

[shock44]

@kavoncatoe What other patch code?

[quantae95]

Every time I load brawl with riivolution the screen turns black and I cant do anything.

[shock44]

@quantae95 Did you change the picture for brawl's wiimote strap? Or change the picture for the opening part where you see all the characters looking into the sunset?

[quantae95]

@shock44 I didn't do anything to them. My wiimote also cuts off and i'm just stuck with a black screen.

[shock44]

@quantae95 I don't know what to tell ya.

[spadevatore]

I know how to do this, but how do you change the sounds of the PSA's?

[Shadow101thehedgehog]

thanks for the help. :) i've been trying to get riivolution working for ages. Now it works for me

[shock44]

@NARUTO15260 No it wasn't actually, I that's why its so hard to pull off great things with brawl hacks is cuz of brawl's coding and how it wasnt meant to do certain things.

[shock44]

@NARUTO15260 Reseting your wii should be fine. The coolest thing about brawl hacks for me is seeing how many different characters people can make through vertex hacking.

[shock44]

@NARUTO15260 Yes, BUT you cannot switch out hacks without restarting your wii. If you switch out hacks when riivolution is still being used on brawl then the game will freeze.

[chrismetru379]

I didnt get how you put in codes and stuff like that onto riivolution.

[shock44]

@chrismetru379 By using ocarina code manager and putting codes in it and extracting the GCT from the program into the codes folder on my sd card.

[chrismetru379]

@shock44 Oh OK!

[jellyfishjosh2]

how to make chars. run? because i did not understand