I recommend evryone to watch the last part of the BBC doc. Rise and fall of the Roman Empire, it tells a completly different story about Alaric the Goth. History is not certain for two reasons: 1.too little information makes room for interpretation by self-proclaimed historians, 2. victor writes history, so history has been delibaretly falsefied trough history. Everyone should think clearly and with logic to make your own theory, question everything, even what schools teach us.
I feel like the U.S. and China are similar to ancient Roman and Byzantine Empires in the sense that one will fall sending our world into a second dark age.
@pilotof787 Don't know about your comparison, but I think that the US has many things in common with Roman Empire. Its lust to control the world and dictate its rules and culture, classifiyng other cultures as not as civilised as theirs. And the rise of the USA thanks to clever and hardworking people, and the decline thanks to the greedy and inadequate Americans of today can be compared to the rise and fall of Rome.
I love studying history, very interesting and when you compare the way of life & technology from then to now, it really hands you an optimistic lens of the world, makes life seem heavenly in comparison.
@AntiSpeciesistWorld Don't be too blinded by optimism. The possibility of an electromagnetic pulse can take the technology of our entire civilization back to the dark ages in about 45 seconds.
@NYyankeeboi yeah but its here now, if it fell, it would be catastrophic but it wouldn't mean we'd all be burning people at the stake and praising kings overnight.
I hold nothing against people from South USA, but, whenever I hear a South'ner speak of European History, is as if Vanderbilt had given a lecture on Brazilian Native Tribes.
If Rome was still Alive and had not Collapsed i willing to bet that we would've been in the Moon in 1400 AD and colonized the Solar System by the 21st Century. Sadly all Great Civilizations don't stay for that long. After the Invasion of the Barbarians there was a Great Regression in Civilization, Say a throwback to more than 5 centuries ago.
@TheSpyMaster100 "epic fuckimng fail" that , your username and your avatar tell me your brain isn't engaged well enough to carry on serious discussions at the intellectual level but then again this is YouTube, you can't expect reasonable counter arguments from a site filled with complete morons who have no idea what they're taking about such as yourself. Because what i had said before was an idea taken from a Romanist at my college, iow your chances responding to this are less than nothing.
@theend1245 HurrDurr i will be a total faggot by failing at logic and then i will blame it on the smarter guys rage and that he failed to type shit right.
people tend to forget that the Romans were no better than the Visigoths at least in the way they operated. the Romans used massive legions of soldiers to invade, conqueror and control lands not theirs because they believed they were superior to every other civilization and people. the roman legions slaughtered entire races, men women and children, enslaved or killed them. they believed every other people were inferior and slaves to be, they were not so innocent, nor so undeserving.
i have seen that, and i do not dispute the accomplishments the Romans did, but they created those things for themselves, they only introduced their inventions and built their roads so their people could use them, they still viewed the peoples and nations they won through brutal force, as slaves and theirs, besides every tyrant in some ways betters the country but for their own devices, they care little for the people. in the end though they are still tyrants, killing, enslaving, steal
Agree -oversimplification. NOT an expert in weaponry so I won't comment but fall of Rome was a complex series of events that took centuries to play out.
A lecture you might find fascinating, google, Inflation and the Fall of the Roman Empire
A book gives insights to the climate factors 5 & 6th. centuries :
Exodus to Arthur: Catastrophic Encounters with Comets-
Marcus Baillie
This is the best we can expect from TV - outlines and not very good ones, at that!
@PalleRasmussen Maybe so but you cant expect to have 100% accurate account of 600 years of history. Its just a basic history of many years of history produced for people who do not have an background in Dark Age history.
@PalleRasmussen Maybe so but you cant expect to have 100% accurate account of 600 years of history. Its just a basic history of many years of history produced for people who do not have an background in Dark Age history.
Wow my history teacher wasn't shittin me when he said roman culture and their ways have a lot to do with the USA. USA is pretty much the biggest supeer power, we've had terrible leaders, and right now we're dealing with terrorism...hopefully mitt Romney can help :)
@ModernWarfare2vsODST Had they handled the Goths better, they would have gladly supplied enough bodies to keep the Legions of the Western Empire strong.
@HolyknightVader999 No, the Goths needed the Romans only so long as the Huns were a threat. After the Huns threat was resolved, there was no need for Western Romans, and Odoacer and later Theodoric took over as king of Italy. Julius Nepo was mostly ignored in Dalmatia. The Legions were mostly Goths, even in the 7th Century with Bellisaurius.
@DonMeaker Actually, prior to the battle of Adrianople, the Goths were loyal to Rome. They only turned on the Empire when it seemed like the empire would sell Gothic children for dog meat.
@HolyknightVader999 Except they were ordered to disarm to enter the territory of the Empire. That they did not shows that they were planning a later rebellion.
@DonMeaker They were just being sure. If I were the emperor at the time, I'd have them emigrate to Egypt. Lots of grain, Nile river means they can bathe, and they're out of the way. Alaric had no problems fighting for the empire except when his people's interests aren't looked for.....
@HolyknightVader999 So you want the Romans to transport the Visigoths to Rome in wagons to save them the trouble of walking or riding horses? Perhaps the Toman army should have been starved to feed the Visigoths. Like that would work out well.
@DonMeaker Nope, but just have the Church impose excommunication on Romans who lynch Goths and enslave their children. Knowing how Theodosius I was so scared of the threat, it would've been very effective.
@HolyknightVader999 Wouldn't happen because the Goths were Arian heretics, and supply systems were weak and fragile. Most folks don't know that Mt Vesuvius erupted in 1944. The catastrophic destruction of Pompeii and Herculaneum was not repeated in 1944. The US was there, with our GM trucks, so the event in 1944 was almost a non-event. By contrast, when your wagons are horse drawn, and horses need to be fed, you just can't do some things. The past is another country, they do things differently
@DonMeaker Actually, they were Arians because A) the Roman missionaries who approached them were Arians and B) The Goths stayed Arian to separate themselves from the Roman Catholics. Once Rome fell, the Ostrogoths and Visigoths slowly succumbed to Catholicism. Partially, in the case of the Ostrogoths, due to their annihilation by Justinian I, and fully, in the case of the Visigoths, whose king converted to Catholicism.
@HolyknightVader999 You agreed that they were Arian heretics, and gave reasons for that and described limits to the term of their belief. An excellent summary.
@DonMeaker Actually, still it shows how they could have been allies if Rome didn't abuse them. They became Arians because Rome was careless on what kind of Christianity they are to get and Romans at the time were racists. Blonde hair was the Roman equivalent of having black skin in the Southern Confederacy.
@HolyknightVader999 Romans were not racists. Emperors came from Africa, from Italy, from Asia. One daughter of an emperor was teased, not for her race, but for her tan. Blonds were popular. Roman legends claimed descent from Troy, in Asia, but with a stop over in Carthage, in Africa.
@DonMeaker By the fourth century, that was not the case. Tell that to the wives and children of the Foederati who loyally served Gen. Stilicho who were killed by racist mobs, and the half-breed Stilicho was beheaded; which drove the soldiers serving him into joining forces with Alaric, which, of course led to the 408 blockade of Rome and it's fall two years later. (Also because Arcadius and Honorius were talentless idiots whose father should've sent them to the monastery.
@HolyknightVader999 Stilicho was completely romanized, and was killed for political reasons, not for racial reasons. Many Roman generals were murdered if they were too popular. The past is a different country. They do things differently. I have no disagreement about the general lack of quality of Roman politician. Anyone that stood out would be hammered down.
@DonMeaker But his troops' wives and children were slain beacuse they were the progeny of dirty barbarians. Stilicho's racial roots (half Vandal/Roman) was one of the reasons the Senators hated him, and they used politics to justify murdering what they saw as a half breed with no right to Imperial Power.
@HolyknightVader999 Rather the Senators lied, and used his heritage as an excuse. They didn't murder him until after Stilicho was successful, the heritage he had all along. Others were of even more complete Vandal heritage. It was his skills and success for which they murdered him, not his parentage.
@DonMeaker But then again, it was Roman racism that drove them to kill the wives and children of the barbarian foederati, who then promptly defected to Alaric's side and helped him conquer Rome.
@HolyknightVader999 It was Roman racism that promoted Stilicho to Patrician, Consul, and Magister Militium. It was Alaric's racism that led him to attack Roman forces again and again.
See, you can call anything racism. Racism, as now understood, had not been invented. It is wrong to impute it to the Romans.
@DonMeaker Actually, Romans singled out the wives and children of the barbarian shocktroops THAT LOYALLY SERVED THE EMPIRE. Stilicho was appointed by Theodosius, one of the few remaining sane Romans, and the senate sought to undermine him any way they can, because A) He's a half-breed and B) His military gov't. burned the Sybilline books due to them being used against him, so pagans in the senate have a unified cause against him.
@HolyknightVader999 You keep saying it was racism, but the foederati were of the same race as the Romans, so it couldn't be racism. I don't doubt that the murders were cruel, unfair, and unjustified, and even evil. But it wasn't racism. Racism just didn't exist at that time, esp between different groups of physically similar people. There were cultural differences, language differences, political differences. Racism as we understand it didn't then exist.
@DonMeaker Actually, the Foederati WERE barbarians. They were of Germanic stock. They're NOT ITALIANS. And as the Romans became more reliant on foreign defenders, they became more openly hostile to them. Watch the documentary. If Rome didn't act like assholes towards the foederati and the goths, they'd have been loyal allies.
@HolyknightVader999 Of course the foederati were not Italians, as the modern state of Italy was only established in the 19th century. However many modern Italians are of Germanic descent, as perusing an Italian phone book for names like Tedeutche will show.
@HolyknightVader999 And some arrived before. The Romans were historically supposed to come from Asia via Carthage, so again, nothing to get racial about. German slaves had been taken, brought to Roman areas, and freed for over a thousand years, so there was nothing racial/phenotypical about the barbarians to stand out. The differences were cultural and political.
@DonMeaker And the barbarian culture was too alien for the established Roman culture by that time. THEY EVEN ARRESTED PEOPLE FOR BRINGING IN SAUSAGES, FOR GOODNESS' SAKE!
@HolyknightVader999 You fail to understand that there is a difference between the concepts of "wrong" and "racism". Really, I have a hard time dumbing it down further for you. Have a nice life.
@DonMeaker It was simple: Romans, just like Americans today, didn't want any dirty immigrants to invade their nice, clean homes. The barbarians were aliens that the Romans never respected. They feared them and loathed them at the same time.
@HolyknightVader999 I think it easy to over estimate how clean things were when most water had to be schlepped into the house. No doubt they feared foreigners, or even locals with different language and customs. But it wasn't racism. Some Irish hate the Butlers, good Catholics who have been in Ireland for 900 years. but it isn't racism.
@DonMeaker It was. Because otherwise why did they kill the wives and children of the barbarian Foederati? That move alone sealed Rome's for six hundred years.
@ModernWarfare2vsODST Certainly intolerance. Considering how little we know of even the most literate cultures of that time, and how much less we know about the illiterate (but not stupid, they just didn't leave us written records) so called barbarians, I would hold back from calling the contemporary Romans ignorant.
Many years ago I saw a documentary about Rome and there was a young man who had so much sex that he had to cut off his testicles to stop and he was a priest I think and he used to wear some kind of helmet that was like the sun lol... Does anybody know this documentary??
@alyctus I remember that program too. As far as I recall he was an emperor too...mad as they come, but that is Rome for you. But I cannot remember the name of the program.
@TheDraeStar lol and other people have told me the same too... and they remember only this scene... anyway if you ever find it again please tell me :p
I think it's very clear that: 1) The so called "Classical Age" of the Roman Empire wasn't as enlightened and advanced as people often like to say (it was certainly much richer and more elegant than afterwards, but I see no enlightenment and progress in an Empire of iniquity, slavery, brutal bureaucracy and exploitation); and 2) the Barbarians were cruel, but also looked for a home and some prestige in an unfair Europe. That was a world where ambition and instability joined to create violence.
@HolyknightVader999 That's true. People often forget that those beautiful buildings and flourishing urban life relied upon the work of slaves who represented perhaps half the whole population. It was basically an entirely different world from the modern perspective of progress that comes through hard work, innovation, productivity and freedom. It was actually an idea of progress so dependent upon exploitation that when the Empire borders and slave trade ceased to increase it started to decline.
@songofthedamedtx in the begging they mentioned that Aleric was looking for a place to survive, to find food and shelter, they also said if he did not find a place they would starve so this is along the lines of what you were saying about finding a homeland.
Rome deserved to be sacked, they were corrupted and their leaders were shit house. Visigoths wern't even thugs, they were christians and were treated like crap by the romans so they fucked them up
@cillantro Well you can see just how biased this video is, illustrating that if a nation isn't roman they are barbarians and savages. Rome betrayed the visogoths, so they sacked rome.
@JMchief93elite Is that what they were showing?Hmmm...but visigoths were barbarians were'nt they?You said "visigoths were'nt even thughs,they were christians.."so does that mean a non-christian being treated like crap is justifiable but a christian absolves himself of thuggery merely by religion and does'nt deserve such treatment? Visigoths were barbarians..plain and simple.Barbarian meaning they did'nt possess a civilisation/pedigree,were nomadic,uncultured.Don't choose selectively from the vid
@cillantro I wouldn't say they wern't cultured, they would of had their own beleifs and such, they were just called barbarians becuase they wern't roman. Just like greeks before said anyone who wasn't greek was a barbarian, which would even be the romans. But yeah they definitely wern't as civilised. They also wern't nomadic people, their lands were destroyed by the huns, and they immigrated into rome seeking refuge.
@JMchief93elite But.....northern/western europeans were always not advanced civilisations especially with the wrath that the northern crusades unleashed on them.The pagans of old were better off and civilised but Huns and mongol invasions had their toll and today most people of europe are not the olde europeans but more of hunnic/central asian mixture are'nt they?The interesting thing you just said about civilisations considering others barbarians may have to do with very little outside contact?
@cillantro Even in eastern countries like Hungary, where the Huns lived, genetic studies show only a very minor percentage of their genetic lineages come from Asian peoples. The vast majority of the ancestors of Europeans are not only descended from the old pagan peoples but also are descended from the indigenous tribes that were conquered/absorbed by the Indo-Europeans. There was real genocie in Central Asia after the mongols, terminating the Iranian peoples there, but not in Europe.
@Homoclassicus Maybe,but to study the genetics of huns,where would you look at?You don't really have a "pure" race base of any nomadic group,especially ones that were as successfull in conquering as the huns,timurids,mongols,turks with the second last(mongol)being the only group that is close to a homogenetic race.The others are no where to be found in.This amalgamation gave europe its charactr today,except in certain parts.Pre anglo-saxon britons for example,where would you get pure blood DNA?!
@cillantro Pure blood DNA didn't exist before or after the invasion of Huns or Turks. The Indo-Europeans, thousands of years earlier, had expanded throughout Europe and had absorbed peoples that were totally different from them. Europe received North Africans in the Iberian Peninsula, and so on. That's how human history has always been. In any case, if those nomads were multiethnical, what is clear is that most of the settlers were Europeans, because there's not much Asian blood in Europe now.
@Homoclassicus Remember there have been many migration from asia to europe and vice versa.Only in the extremities of the continents do you see people who are isolated,genetically different.The eurasians are multiethnic.It does'nt have to be asians the way we see them today.Aleuts,Finns and Japanese are examples.Most Gypsies look totally european but have their origin in the Indian subcontinent(north west-Punjab).So do many other europeans groups.Africa and americas were only isolated continents.
@tontsa911 Of course you say that considering that, in a modern world that'd be a simple modern Pagan version of the Roman Empire, you wouldn't be a gladiator, a slave thrown to the beasts to please spectators, and of course would never need the help of a hospital or a charity organization, because those things never existed in Pagan Rome. As for Middle Ages, Rome had been decaying before becoming Christian, and the general recession came mostly from wars and diseases, not religion.
this documentary is bullshit i have no idea where are they getting their information and last time i remember when the goths were attacking rome its was slaves on the inside that opened the gates and thats how they got in i love how biased this show against the "barbarians" even though by this times militarily the ones fighting were the "barbarians".
@championofgods not really if the roman empire still existed most of us would be living in slums as the royalty could do preatty much whatever they wanted and could take whatever
@championofgods well the empire fell becuase of germanic tribe invasions in the north and Islamic invasions in the south, the empire went to too many wars and by the end it was too weak to defend itself thats why it fell
@serbin16m no we're not. when great britain was over after it's 500 years, the united states took over. when one country falls another has to rise, in this case it's likely to be china.
@shcnoozlebop Id hate to live under a chinise hegemony, the US is the leader in promoting democratic liberal free market ideas, China on the other hand is a oppressive tyrannical government
@serbin16m true i guess.. i've seen a few of these history docos now; we're still the same humans as lived hundreds of years ago, the same as the people who live in the african villages. we're just used to our cushy lives having everything provided for us, including knowledge. we spent thousands of years progressing to where we are now and everything just got better, but we could just as easily go backwards.
@NorthernerMatty123 You mean France,UK,Germany would be screwed without having the world to loot?LOL
Germany is an exception...France has come out of the recession too....UK seems to have much trouble competing with the world without the odds evened out for them(deindustrialisation of India,Musketeers/Navy ships on every continent,free minerals and ores from africa etc!)hehe ^_^
@championofgods slavery still exists: traffickers. people still get trafficked for ordinary slavery, as in manual labour. just not in the top countries.
@championofgods if the romen empire never fell the world would be over because they wear all gay at the end. and there would be no more prodution of life. so the fall of rome is the best thing that happend
The story in this vid seems incomplete. Alaric's barbarians were driven out of their lands by the Huns etc right into Roman lands, where they seeked to negotiate with Rome for land in exchange of military power. Rome's childish emperor betrayed them twice. and then finally Rome was willing to negotiate, but some military officer refused to have it this way and attacked Alaric while he was on his way there. Alaric saw it as another betrayal and sacked Rome after 2 years of standing outside.
@Kekkiki Tell you my name? Happily.Charlie Sergeant, Look it up! No i do not "make shit up then come online to argue" I had a very expensive education which i will put to use, whether you like it or not. Nor am i an "internet warrior" i will fight as hard with my fists as i will my words ok. I'm not one of these people that gets bullied in their real life so feels the need to bash people from the anonymity of their PC to get back at said bullies, i leave that to people like you!!
@Saxonsoldiers You don't bash people? Look what I found on your channel "Go fuck yourself you in bred, aids infected cunt". I laughed hard when I read that. So, mr Charlie Sergeant, while I think you have a cool page, nickname and by the looks of you being here we share a certain interest and all that I must say I'm quite dissapointed in your conduct today. Did your very expensive education teach you to contradict yourself and be rude? Have a nice day!
@Saxonsoldiers to everyone also he comments to this moron KEKKIKI is a troll. i was once one of you intelligence baring knowledge seekers. but time has damned be to be born in 1990 so i mostly fight ignorant fucks like this one. anywho, its called "trolling" its done as a joke, but mainly started from a very real problem from insecurities. this guys a projectionist. almost every insult he throws at you is from how he feels about himself. totally ignoring is the only solution.
@Kekkiki Well read the comments in context and you may understand the reason for my abrasive tones towards other comments posted on my profile! Funny because you contacted me saying i was an internet gangster.I never asked you to do so.
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at the time of the dark age European nation is lagging in terms of science and technology, they now become a highly developed nation. they are a nation at the forefront.
This history is garbage. There is no mention of Huns, Avars, Turks, Bulgars, Magyras, etc. No mention Kievan' Rus, Serbian Empire, Bulgarian Empire, Hungarian Empire, Khazaria, Hunnic Empire, and such. This is half-assed biased Jewish propoganda.
@Slavko961234 I think you are. Please don't use vulgar words, because I seriously doubt you talk like this in society, and it doesn't make you look good either.
There was never an Hungarian empire. The only "Hungarian empire" that existed in history was the Hunnic Empire. Therefore, I would say that the Hungarian Empire IS the Hunnic Empire. There was a Austria-Hungary Empire, but that was in the 20th century. Also, the Kingdom of Hungary is not considered as an empire.
@InvictusSomnia I was talking about Kingdom of Hungary. Hunnic Empire has NOTHING to do with Hungary. Huns were Chinese barbarians that conquered half of Europe, most of them went back to Asia while others assimilated with Europeans. Magyars and Huns are not related. Sorry for swearing, I was drunk at the time.
@Slavko961234 The Magyrs took the name of the Hunnic empire in admiration. Invaders from the outside, by borrowing the Hunnic name, they pretended to legitimacy that they didn't have.
Thanks for posting this. I started watching this for a class but was never able to finish. It is a good timeline representation of the descent into the dark ages.
@marmite400 The history they present in this vid is garbage. Alaric wanted land in exchange for military power but was betrayed 2 times by the Emperor of Rome, and then when they finally wanted to negotiate (it was considered low to negotiate with barbarians) some high ranked officer wanted nothing to do with it and attacked Alaric. Alaric saw it as a third betrayal and then sacked rome.
just out of curiosity....are we attracted to watch certain historic eras rise and fall because..we probably were born in that time in our past lives?
TheSkirmishes 1 day ago
I recommend evryone to watch the last part of the BBC doc. Rise and fall of the Roman Empire, it tells a completly different story about Alaric the Goth. History is not certain for two reasons: 1.too little information makes room for interpretation by self-proclaimed historians, 2. victor writes history, so history has been delibaretly falsefied trough history. Everyone should think clearly and with logic to make your own theory, question everything, even what schools teach us.
rusgreek 3 days ago
I feel like the U.S. and China are similar to ancient Roman and Byzantine Empires in the sense that one will fall sending our world into a second dark age.
pilotof787 4 days ago
@pilotof787 Don't know about your comparison, but I think that the US has many things in common with Roman Empire. Its lust to control the world and dictate its rules and culture, classifiyng other cultures as not as civilised as theirs. And the rise of the USA thanks to clever and hardworking people, and the decline thanks to the greedy and inadequate Americans of today can be compared to the rise and fall of Rome.
rusgreek 3 days ago
4:26 The Holy Hand Grenade of Anteoth
StupidAwsomenes 1 week ago
I love studying history, very interesting and when you compare the way of life & technology from then to now, it really hands you an optimistic lens of the world, makes life seem heavenly in comparison.
AntiSpeciesistWorld 1 week ago
@AntiSpeciesistWorld Don't be too blinded by optimism. The possibility of an electromagnetic pulse can take the technology of our entire civilization back to the dark ages in about 45 seconds.
NYyankeeboi 6 days ago
@NYyankeeboi yeah but its here now, if it fell, it would be catastrophic but it wouldn't mean we'd all be burning people at the stake and praising kings overnight.
AntiSpeciesistWorld 4 days ago
to tell you the truth what kind of bull shit saying is that no lie to us like normal
itssooshal 1 week ago
wow, biased much?
freespirited63 3 weeks ago
they need 500 food to advance to the feudal age ! 11
Ironjagg 1 month ago
I hold nothing against people from South USA, but, whenever I hear a South'ner speak of European History, is as if Vanderbilt had given a lecture on Brazilian Native Tribes.
NateGreyCR 1 month ago
If Rome was still Alive and had not Collapsed i willing to bet that we would've been in the Moon in 1400 AD and colonized the Solar System by the 21st Century. Sadly all Great Civilizations don't stay for that long. After the Invasion of the Barbarians there was a Great Regression in Civilization, Say a throwback to more than 5 centuries ago.
theend1245 1 month ago
@theend1245 epic fuckimng fail... the moon in 1400? you must be retarded
TheSpyMaster100 1 week ago
@TheSpyMaster100 "epic fuckimng fail" that , your username and your avatar tell me your brain isn't engaged well enough to carry on serious discussions at the intellectual level but then again this is YouTube, you can't expect reasonable counter arguments from a site filled with complete morons who have no idea what they're taking about such as yourself. Because what i had said before was an idea taken from a Romanist at my college, iow your chances responding to this are less than nothing.
theend1245 1 week ago
@theend1245 HurrDurr i will be a total faggot by failing at logic and then i will blame it on the smarter guys rage and that he failed to type shit right.
Idiot scumbag
TheSpyMaster100 1 week ago
Point missed here, but should be made, Goths were Christian. Arian sect, but still Christian.
gamesbok 1 month ago
the right name is golden age
Essa1Alharbi 1 month ago
@Essa1Alharbi For the Arab world. Without them Europe would be still in the dark ages....
Abdikarimelmi 1 month ago
@Abdikarimelmi without the greeks would be no ages at all...
Dm3os1 2 weeks ago
01:12 Then. Fukkin YouTube
Kelly14UK 2 months ago
01:14 I sense arse banditry afoot lol
Kelly14UK 2 months ago
1:26 "Thomas Martin College of the Holy Cross" I graduated from Holy Cross college LOL
theFunnierWill211187 2 months ago
@joonte1010 To bad the Abyssinian never came to help Rome
Abdikarimelmi 2 months ago
@Abdikarimelmi
The Cats?
madhammudeux 2 months ago
@madhammudeux No Ethiopia.
Abdikarimelmi 1 month ago
people tend to forget that the Romans were no better than the Visigoths at least in the way they operated. the Romans used massive legions of soldiers to invade, conqueror and control lands not theirs because they believed they were superior to every other civilization and people. the roman legions slaughtered entire races, men women and children, enslaved or killed them. they believed every other people were inferior and slaves to be, they were not so innocent, nor so undeserving.
MAnnaconduit1 2 months ago
@MAnnaconduit1 Look up "what have the romans ever done for us?"
Jc40k1 2 months ago
@Jc40k1
i have seen that, and i do not dispute the accomplishments the Romans did, but they created those things for themselves, they only introduced their inventions and built their roads so their people could use them, they still viewed the peoples and nations they won through brutal force, as slaves and theirs, besides every tyrant in some ways betters the country but for their own devices, they care little for the people. in the end though they are still tyrants, killing, enslaving, steal
MAnnaconduit1 2 months ago
@MAnnaconduit1 If they help people, does it make a difference?
Jc40k1 2 months ago
Oversimplifying things. And...
They have legionaires with Pilae and the armor of the 2nd century in the early 5th!
And what are these fantasy weapons of the Goths? WTF?!
PalleRasmussen 2 months ago
@PalleRasmussen
Agree -oversimplification. NOT an expert in weaponry so I won't comment but fall of Rome was a complex series of events that took centuries to play out.
A lecture you might find fascinating, google, Inflation and the Fall of the Roman Empire
A book gives insights to the climate factors 5 & 6th. centuries :
Exodus to Arthur: Catastrophic Encounters with Comets-
Marcus Baillie
This is the best we can expect from TV - outlines and not very good ones, at that!
Mellisa582010 2 months ago
@PalleRasmussen Maybe so but you cant expect to have 100% accurate account of 600 years of history. Its just a basic history of many years of history produced for people who do not have an background in Dark Age history.
ADZ01982 2 weeks ago
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@PalleRasmussen Maybe so but you cant expect to have 100% accurate account of 600 years of history. Its just a basic history of many years of history produced for people who do not have an background in Dark Age history.
ADZ01982 2 weeks ago
Oversimplifying things. And...
They have legionaires with Pilae and the armor of the 2nd century in the early 5th!
PalleRasmussen 2 months ago
If Rome hadn't collapsed we would have hopefully colonized the solar system by now :(
TheHolyMongolEmpire 3 months ago
@TheHolyMongolEmpire Most likely... fuck religions :(
tontsa911 3 months ago
Wow my history teacher wasn't shittin me when he said roman culture and their ways have a lot to do with the USA. USA is pretty much the biggest supeer power, we've had terrible leaders, and right now we're dealing with terrorism...hopefully mitt Romney can help :)
iwannabethekid34x 4 months ago
"sweaty, smelly thugs"
The Visigoths were pushed into sacking Rome by the Emperors poor decisions
ModernWarfare2vsODST 4 months ago
@ModernWarfare2vsODST Had they handled the Goths better, they would have gladly supplied enough bodies to keep the Legions of the Western Empire strong.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 No, the Goths needed the Romans only so long as the Huns were a threat. After the Huns threat was resolved, there was no need for Western Romans, and Odoacer and later Theodoric took over as king of Italy. Julius Nepo was mostly ignored in Dalmatia. The Legions were mostly Goths, even in the 7th Century with Bellisaurius.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker Actually, prior to the battle of Adrianople, the Goths were loyal to Rome. They only turned on the Empire when it seemed like the empire would sell Gothic children for dog meat.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 Except they were ordered to disarm to enter the territory of the Empire. That they did not shows that they were planning a later rebellion.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker They were just being sure. If I were the emperor at the time, I'd have them emigrate to Egypt. Lots of grain, Nile river means they can bathe, and they're out of the way. Alaric had no problems fighting for the empire except when his people's interests aren't looked for.....
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 Except there were not enough ships. Why not move them to the moon, you have about as much chance of accomplishing that.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker Not really, since they could be transported portion by portion. Or turn them over to the Church and give them ecclesiastic protection.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 Sorry, but they would have starved under church protection. The Church had no ships, and nothing like enough food or wagons.
Amateurs study tactics. Professionals study logistics.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker The Church had the empire's ear. And the Empire has the food and wagons.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 So you want the Romans to transport the Visigoths to Rome in wagons to save them the trouble of walking or riding horses? Perhaps the Toman army should have been starved to feed the Visigoths. Like that would work out well.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker Nope, but just have the Church impose excommunication on Romans who lynch Goths and enslave their children. Knowing how Theodosius I was so scared of the threat, it would've been very effective.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 Wouldn't happen because the Goths were Arian heretics, and supply systems were weak and fragile. Most folks don't know that Mt Vesuvius erupted in 1944. The catastrophic destruction of Pompeii and Herculaneum was not repeated in 1944. The US was there, with our GM trucks, so the event in 1944 was almost a non-event. By contrast, when your wagons are horse drawn, and horses need to be fed, you just can't do some things. The past is another country, they do things differently
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker Actually, they were Arians because A) the Roman missionaries who approached them were Arians and B) The Goths stayed Arian to separate themselves from the Roman Catholics. Once Rome fell, the Ostrogoths and Visigoths slowly succumbed to Catholicism. Partially, in the case of the Ostrogoths, due to their annihilation by Justinian I, and fully, in the case of the Visigoths, whose king converted to Catholicism.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
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@HolyknightVader999 Glad you agree.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker I didn't.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 You agreed that they were Arian heretics, and gave reasons for that and described limits to the term of their belief. An excellent summary.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker Actually, still it shows how they could have been allies if Rome didn't abuse them. They became Arians because Rome was careless on what kind of Christianity they are to get and Romans at the time were racists. Blonde hair was the Roman equivalent of having black skin in the Southern Confederacy.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 Romans were not racists. Emperors came from Africa, from Italy, from Asia. One daughter of an emperor was teased, not for her race, but for her tan. Blonds were popular. Roman legends claimed descent from Troy, in Asia, but with a stop over in Carthage, in Africa.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker By the fourth century, that was not the case. Tell that to the wives and children of the Foederati who loyally served Gen. Stilicho who were killed by racist mobs, and the half-breed Stilicho was beheaded; which drove the soldiers serving him into joining forces with Alaric, which, of course led to the 408 blockade of Rome and it's fall two years later. (Also because Arcadius and Honorius were talentless idiots whose father should've sent them to the monastery.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 Stilicho was completely romanized, and was killed for political reasons, not for racial reasons. Many Roman generals were murdered if they were too popular. The past is a different country. They do things differently. I have no disagreement about the general lack of quality of Roman politician. Anyone that stood out would be hammered down.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker But his troops' wives and children were slain beacuse they were the progeny of dirty barbarians. Stilicho's racial roots (half Vandal/Roman) was one of the reasons the Senators hated him, and they used politics to justify murdering what they saw as a half breed with no right to Imperial Power.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 Rather the Senators lied, and used his heritage as an excuse. They didn't murder him until after Stilicho was successful, the heritage he had all along. Others were of even more complete Vandal heritage. It was his skills and success for which they murdered him, not his parentage.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker But then again, it was Roman racism that drove them to kill the wives and children of the barbarian foederati, who then promptly defected to Alaric's side and helped him conquer Rome.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 It was Roman racism that promoted Stilicho to Patrician, Consul, and Magister Militium. It was Alaric's racism that led him to attack Roman forces again and again.
See, you can call anything racism. Racism, as now understood, had not been invented. It is wrong to impute it to the Romans.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker Actually, Romans singled out the wives and children of the barbarian shocktroops THAT LOYALLY SERVED THE EMPIRE. Stilicho was appointed by Theodosius, one of the few remaining sane Romans, and the senate sought to undermine him any way they can, because A) He's a half-breed and B) His military gov't. burned the Sybilline books due to them being used against him, so pagans in the senate have a unified cause against him.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 You keep saying it was racism, but the foederati were of the same race as the Romans, so it couldn't be racism. I don't doubt that the murders were cruel, unfair, and unjustified, and even evil. But it wasn't racism. Racism just didn't exist at that time, esp between different groups of physically similar people. There were cultural differences, language differences, political differences. Racism as we understand it didn't then exist.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker Actually, the Foederati WERE barbarians. They were of Germanic stock. They're NOT ITALIANS. And as the Romans became more reliant on foreign defenders, they became more openly hostile to them. Watch the documentary. If Rome didn't act like assholes towards the foederati and the goths, they'd have been loyal allies.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 Of course the foederati were not Italians, as the modern state of Italy was only established in the 19th century. However many modern Italians are of Germanic descent, as perusing an Italian phone book for names like Tedeutche will show.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker That's due to the fact that Lombards and many other Germanic and Norman settlers arrived in Italy AFTER THE FALL OF ROME.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 And some arrived before. The Romans were historically supposed to come from Asia via Carthage, so again, nothing to get racial about. German slaves had been taken, brought to Roman areas, and freed for over a thousand years, so there was nothing racial/phenotypical about the barbarians to stand out. The differences were cultural and political.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker And the barbarian culture was too alien for the established Roman culture by that time. THEY EVEN ARRESTED PEOPLE FOR BRINGING IN SAUSAGES, FOR GOODNESS' SAKE!
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 but not for being blond. So it wasn't racism.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker Actually, it was because they believed that the barbarian food would turn civilized Romans into hairy barbarians. So it was racism.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 You fail to understand that there is a difference between the concepts of "wrong" and "racism". Really, I have a hard time dumbing it down further for you. Have a nice life.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker It was simple: Romans, just like Americans today, didn't want any dirty immigrants to invade their nice, clean homes. The barbarians were aliens that the Romans never respected. They feared them and loathed them at the same time.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 I think it easy to over estimate how clean things were when most water had to be schlepped into the house. No doubt they feared foreigners, or even locals with different language and customs. But it wasn't racism. Some Irish hate the Butlers, good Catholics who have been in Ireland for 900 years. but it isn't racism.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@DonMeaker It was. Because otherwise why did they kill the wives and children of the barbarian Foederati? That move alone sealed Rome's for six hundred years.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@DonMeaker may not be racism but its discrimination and that grows out of ignorance and intolerance
ModernWarfare2vsODST 2 months ago
@ModernWarfare2vsODST Certainly intolerance. Considering how little we know of even the most literate cultures of that time, and how much less we know about the illiterate (but not stupid, they just didn't leave us written records) so called barbarians, I would hold back from calling the contemporary Romans ignorant.
DonMeaker 2 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 YES ASSHOLE German U ARE BARBARIAN KILLERS, THIS IS REALITY
unfukkkmee 2 months ago
while other kids where watching "Max and Ruby," rotting their brains out, i was watching History Channel. i grow up on History Channel!
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timthedramatic2011 3 months ago
America is closely following the trends of the Romans...
leegeorgeson 4 months ago
i don't understand how these aristocrats murdered their own brothers and sisters for political ambitions
tonsyidibe 5 months ago
@tonsyidibe
Ever watch "Godfather 2" or "The Sopranos"?
baraxor 4 months ago
@baraxor yeah i watched the godfather
tonsyidibe 4 months ago
Rome had wronged the Visigoths for generations, they deserved it.
Marius26879 5 months ago
Many years ago I saw a documentary about Rome and there was a young man who had so much sex that he had to cut off his testicles to stop and he was a priest I think and he used to wear some kind of helmet that was like the sun lol... Does anybody know this documentary??
alyctus 6 months ago
@alyctus I remember that program too. As far as I recall he was an emperor too...mad as they come, but that is Rome for you. But I cannot remember the name of the program.
TheDraeStar 5 months ago
@TheDraeStar lol and other people have told me the same too... and they remember only this scene... anyway if you ever find it again please tell me :p
alyctus 5 months ago
These types of documentaries do very little to promote facts....Instead they just set out to entertain....not very good documentaries at all.
LaserBeam002 6 months ago
@LaserBeam002 well if its entertaining wont some people find this more intresting and probaly learn more than if it was just facts?
MangoMeerkat1 5 months ago
It's shit. I hate this shit. Casper the Friendly Ghost.
Danze3Acidic 6 months ago
This is the worst documentary I`ve ever seen.
caseyboy97 6 months ago
damn, they sold their kids into slavery for dog meat?
osiris6364 6 months ago
I think it's very clear that: 1) The so called "Classical Age" of the Roman Empire wasn't as enlightened and advanced as people often like to say (it was certainly much richer and more elegant than afterwards, but I see no enlightenment and progress in an Empire of iniquity, slavery, brutal bureaucracy and exploitation); and 2) the Barbarians were cruel, but also looked for a home and some prestige in an unfair Europe. That was a world where ambition and instability joined to create violence.
Homoclassicus 6 months ago
@Homoclassicus Also, the slave trade destroyed technological innovation.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
@HolyknightVader999 That's true. People often forget that those beautiful buildings and flourishing urban life relied upon the work of slaves who represented perhaps half the whole population. It was basically an entirely different world from the modern perspective of progress that comes through hard work, innovation, productivity and freedom. It was actually an idea of progress so dependent upon exploitation that when the Empire borders and slave trade ceased to increase it started to decline.
Homoclassicus 3 months ago
@Homoclassicus Amen.
HolyknightVader999 3 months ago
When in Rome, do as the Visigoths.
xtremejohnny69 6 months ago
Aleric was looking for a homeland for his people, not just power. Very biased
songofthedamedtx 7 months ago
@songofthedamedtx in the begging they mentioned that Aleric was looking for a place to survive, to find food and shelter, they also said if he did not find a place they would starve so this is along the lines of what you were saying about finding a homeland.
ca9109 7 months ago
year- he year -he go fack yerselfs!
LOLLOLLOOL
Agitatorial 7 months ago
Rubbish,we all know that feminism destroyed ancient rome.....
69BearPedo 7 months ago
@69BearPedo actually it was LIBERALISM as in WELFARE that destroyed rome from within. being effeminate was a symptom NOT a cause.
SocratesTheGadfly 6 months ago
@SocratesTheGadfly I lolled
HITCNET 6 months ago
@SocratesTheGadfly it was german barbarians that were used in the army and then betrayed the nobles.
unurautare2 6 months ago
Rome deserved to be sacked, they were corrupted and their leaders were shit house. Visigoths wern't even thugs, they were christians and were treated like crap by the romans so they fucked them up
JMchief93elite 7 months ago
@JMchief93elite ???So you are saying christians can't be thugs?LOL....so romans were corrupt and visigoths were....angels? hehehe ^_^
cillantro 7 months ago
@cillantro Well you can see just how biased this video is, illustrating that if a nation isn't roman they are barbarians and savages. Rome betrayed the visogoths, so they sacked rome.
JMchief93elite 7 months ago
@JMchief93elite Is that what they were showing?Hmmm...but visigoths were barbarians were'nt they?You said "visigoths were'nt even thughs,they were christians.."so does that mean a non-christian being treated like crap is justifiable but a christian absolves himself of thuggery merely by religion and does'nt deserve such treatment? Visigoths were barbarians..plain and simple.Barbarian meaning they did'nt possess a civilisation/pedigree,were nomadic,uncultured.Don't choose selectively from the vid
cillantro 7 months ago
@cillantro I wouldn't say they wern't cultured, they would of had their own beleifs and such, they were just called barbarians becuase they wern't roman. Just like greeks before said anyone who wasn't greek was a barbarian, which would even be the romans. But yeah they definitely wern't as civilised. They also wern't nomadic people, their lands were destroyed by the huns, and they immigrated into rome seeking refuge.
JMchief93elite 7 months ago
@JMchief93elite But.....northern/western europeans were always not advanced civilisations especially with the wrath that the northern crusades unleashed on them.The pagans of old were better off and civilised but Huns and mongol invasions had their toll and today most people of europe are not the olde europeans but more of hunnic/central asian mixture are'nt they?The interesting thing you just said about civilisations considering others barbarians may have to do with very little outside contact?
cillantro 7 months ago
@cillantro Even in eastern countries like Hungary, where the Huns lived, genetic studies show only a very minor percentage of their genetic lineages come from Asian peoples. The vast majority of the ancestors of Europeans are not only descended from the old pagan peoples but also are descended from the indigenous tribes that were conquered/absorbed by the Indo-Europeans. There was real genocie in Central Asia after the mongols, terminating the Iranian peoples there, but not in Europe.
Homoclassicus 6 months ago
@Homoclassicus Maybe,but to study the genetics of huns,where would you look at?You don't really have a "pure" race base of any nomadic group,especially ones that were as successfull in conquering as the huns,timurids,mongols,turks with the second last(mongol)being the only group that is close to a homogenetic race.The others are no where to be found in.This amalgamation gave europe its charactr today,except in certain parts.Pre anglo-saxon britons for example,where would you get pure blood DNA?!
cillantro 6 months ago
@cillantro Pure blood DNA didn't exist before or after the invasion of Huns or Turks. The Indo-Europeans, thousands of years earlier, had expanded throughout Europe and had absorbed peoples that were totally different from them. Europe received North Africans in the Iberian Peninsula, and so on. That's how human history has always been. In any case, if those nomads were multiethnical, what is clear is that most of the settlers were Europeans, because there's not much Asian blood in Europe now.
Homoclassicus 6 months ago
@Homoclassicus Remember there have been many migration from asia to europe and vice versa.Only in the extremities of the continents do you see people who are isolated,genetically different.The eurasians are multiethnic.It does'nt have to be asians the way we see them today.Aleuts,Finns and Japanese are examples.Most Gypsies look totally european but have their origin in the Indian subcontinent(north west-Punjab).So do many other europeans groups.Africa and americas were only isolated continents.
cillantro 6 months ago
LOL, rome was sacked.
JoeShowClips 7 months ago
Fuck christianity for creating Middle Ages !
tontsa911 7 months ago
@tontsa911 Of course you say that considering that, in a modern world that'd be a simple modern Pagan version of the Roman Empire, you wouldn't be a gladiator, a slave thrown to the beasts to please spectators, and of course would never need the help of a hospital or a charity organization, because those things never existed in Pagan Rome. As for Middle Ages, Rome had been decaying before becoming Christian, and the general recession came mostly from wars and diseases, not religion.
Homoclassicus 6 months ago
VISIGOTHS WERE CHRISTIANS!
0wnageglad1at0r 7 months ago
this documentary is bullshit i have no idea where are they getting their information and last time i remember when the goths were attacking rome its was slaves on the inside that opened the gates and thats how they got in i love how biased this show against the "barbarians" even though by this times militarily the ones fighting were the "barbarians".
LordAzanko 8 months ago
See the venus project.
JoshAlfred27 8 months ago
It's interesting how the standard of life was higher during the Roman Empire than during the middle ages.
wyrrox 8 months ago
@wyrrox true... just think were our technology could be if the Roman Empire never fell... we could be building colonies in space...
I the fall of the Roman Empire was one of the greates losses of mankind...
championofgods 8 months ago
@championofgods not really if the roman empire still existed most of us would be living in slums as the royalty could do preatty much whatever they wanted and could take whatever
serbin16m 8 months ago
@serbin16m eventually it would evolve... slavery existed even after the Roman Empire fell...
championofgods 8 months ago
@championofgods well the empire fell becuase of germanic tribe invasions in the north and Islamic invasions in the south, the empire went to too many wars and by the end it was too weak to defend itself thats why it fell
serbin16m 8 months ago
@serbin16m the same thing is happening to america .too many wars
hanvo216 8 months ago
@hanvo216 Yeah but god forbid the US falls because were all fucked if it dies off.
serbin16m 8 months ago
@serbin16m no we're not. when great britain was over after it's 500 years, the united states took over. when one country falls another has to rise, in this case it's likely to be china.
shcnoozlebop 8 months ago
@shcnoozlebop Id hate to live under a chinise hegemony, the US is the leader in promoting democratic liberal free market ideas, China on the other hand is a oppressive tyrannical government
serbin16m 8 months ago
@serbin16m true i guess.. i've seen a few of these history docos now; we're still the same humans as lived hundreds of years ago, the same as the people who live in the african villages. we're just used to our cushy lives having everything provided for us, including knowledge. we spent thousands of years progressing to where we are now and everything just got better, but we could just as easily go backwards.
shcnoozlebop 8 months ago
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cillantro 7 months ago in playlist Stage Plays & Documentaries
@serbin16m Tbh the world would also be pretty screwed without major European countries like France, Germany and the UK.
NorthernerMatty123 7 months ago
@NorthernerMatty123 You mean France,UK,Germany would be screwed without having the world to loot?LOL
Germany is an exception...France has come out of the recession too....UK seems to have much trouble competing with the world without the odds evened out for them(deindustrialisation of India,Musketeers/Navy ships on every continent,free minerals and ores from africa etc!)hehe ^_^
cillantro 7 months ago in playlist Stage Plays & Documentaries
@championofgods slavery still exists: traffickers. people still get trafficked for ordinary slavery, as in manual labour. just not in the top countries.
shcnoozlebop 8 months ago
@championofgods if the romen empire never fell the world would be over because they wear all gay at the end. and there would be no more prodution of life. so the fall of rome is the best thing that happend
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jack5051525354 9 months ago
The story in this vid seems incomplete. Alaric's barbarians were driven out of their lands by the Huns etc right into Roman lands, where they seeked to negotiate with Rome for land in exchange of military power. Rome's childish emperor betrayed them twice. and then finally Rome was willing to negotiate, but some military officer refused to have it this way and attacked Alaric while he was on his way there. Alaric saw it as another betrayal and sacked Rome after 2 years of standing outside.
Kekkiki 9 months ago
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Saxonsoldiers 9 months ago
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at the time of the dark age European nation is lagging in terms of science and technology, they now become a highly developed nation. they are a nation at the forefront.
Because they learn from the past. salute to them
nofrantos 9 months ago
This history is garbage. There is no mention of Huns, Avars, Turks, Bulgars, Magyras, etc. No mention Kievan' Rus, Serbian Empire, Bulgarian Empire, Hungarian Empire, Khazaria, Hunnic Empire, and such. This is half-assed biased Jewish propoganda.
Slavko961234 10 months ago
@Slavko961234 u mad bro?
ROTFLxLAWL 10 months ago
@Slavko961234 Hungarian Empire and Hunnic Empire are the same.
InvictusSomnia 9 months ago
@InvictusSomnia Are you fucking retarded or just plain stupid?
Slavko961234 9 months ago
@Slavko961234 I think you are. Please don't use vulgar words, because I seriously doubt you talk like this in society, and it doesn't make you look good either.
There was never an Hungarian empire. The only "Hungarian empire" that existed in history was the Hunnic Empire. Therefore, I would say that the Hungarian Empire IS the Hunnic Empire. There was a Austria-Hungary Empire, but that was in the 20th century. Also, the Kingdom of Hungary is not considered as an empire.
InvictusSomnia 9 months ago
@InvictusSomnia I was talking about Kingdom of Hungary. Hunnic Empire has NOTHING to do with Hungary. Huns were Chinese barbarians that conquered half of Europe, most of them went back to Asia while others assimilated with Europeans. Magyars and Huns are not related. Sorry for swearing, I was drunk at the time.
Slavko961234 9 months ago
@Slavko961234 It's alright
InvictusSomnia 8 months ago
@Slavko961234 The Huns weren't Chinese they were Mongolian.
NorthernerMatty123 7 months ago
@Slavko961234 The Magyrs took the name of the Hunnic empire in admiration. Invaders from the outside, by borrowing the Hunnic name, they pretended to legitimacy that they didn't have.
DonMeaker 3 months ago
@Slavko961234 it says the sacking of rome
jumpingonglass 6 months ago
Thanks for posting this. I started watching this for a class but was never able to finish. It is a good timeline representation of the descent into the dark ages.
evercllear 10 months ago
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OptionFish 10 months ago
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fallendemon16 10 months ago
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fallendemon16 10 months ago
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OptionFish 10 months ago
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OptionFish 10 months ago
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fallendemon16 10 months ago
:) this video sucks crap :)
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OptionFish 10 months ago
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OptionFish 10 months ago
10 people were the Romans that got sacked
Kayla82988 10 months ago
This would be a great follow-up series to "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" once it's run it's course in a few years.
optimus2g 10 months ago
I farted...safety.
ArguriosRS 10 months ago
Thanks for the upload, I dont get this channel anymore on cable...so I get to miss these programs...must say, your audio and video are excellent.
mari66101 10 months ago
Why, after two years of starving Rome into submission did the Visigoths expect to find food?
marmite400 10 months ago
@marmite400 The history they present in this vid is garbage. Alaric wanted land in exchange for military power but was betrayed 2 times by the Emperor of Rome, and then when they finally wanted to negotiate (it was considered low to negotiate with barbarians) some high ranked officer wanted nothing to do with it and attacked Alaric. Alaric saw it as a third betrayal and then sacked rome.
Kekkiki 9 months ago
@Kekkiki Thank you for the information. I thought there had to be more to the situation than this.
marmite400 9 months ago
Eh, Alaric wanted territory for the Goths to live peacefully in, he wasn't interested in destroying the Roman Empire.
anpe1001 10 months ago
dude u have got issues go and c ur doc anyways ppl like u burn in the hury of their own
akisgr8101 11 months ago
but the romans had gladatorial contest...still have nothing against them?
mkirules 11 months ago
For a ripping viking story, try Sigurd's Saga on Youtube.
steleona1 1 year ago