@TheMagicalPuffBunny Yes. Vote for Ron Paul if you want your civil liberties back, if you value the Constitution, if you are against War, etc.
PLEASE ... look up the NDAA and see if you can figure out why Obama would sign legislation that would allow the police AND military to detain US Citizens INDEFINITELY, without right to council, or a jury trial. Total violation of the Constitution.
PLEASE look up the NDAA Bill that was signed on 12/31/11.
Tempest in a teacup. So someone made a sour video. She's going to use that to smear RP and decent people like me, who support him? What a demagoguing cunt.
"It is offensive that Ron Paul’s allies would claim that Gov. Huntsman’s own family would create such a video."
The study commissioned by the Ron Paul Campaign merely said that is was someone within or closely tied to the Huntsmen campaign, they never said anything about Huntsman's family being involved (images.politico(DOTCOM)/global/2012/01/cando_com_analysis.html). The study never mentions Huntsman's family.
@87webdev I very much doubt Jon would be as interested in videogames as I am. Although, if his personal non-existent youtube channel favorites some Bioshock: Infinite videos, then I'll like him as a person more.
So, it would be pretty easy for somebody to make a video calling Ron Paul a crazy old man, put it out on youtube from the Huntsman campaign, and it would reflect just as badly on Jon Huntsman? Probably not, since there are hundreds of videos calling Ron Paul crazy-even from the MSM. Let this crap go. It's a hit piece and the video doesn't reflect ANYTHING that resembles Ron Paul and his criticisms of other candidates. Ron Paul had no reason to attack Jon Huntsman at this point, anyways.
@hansjalv Get ready .... "Iran" is going to "attack" a US ship. 5 bucks says they do it in October though .... to boost support for Obama and Netan-yahoo during their re-election campaigns. And the Americans are going to eat it up like it is apple pie.
@mrptroa I'm American too. But I have little faith in the general populous. All you have to do is look at the percentage of people that still vaccinate their children.
@WhatsReallyGoingOnUS I love that you say Americans are dumb and then say the dumbest thing ever. Vaccinations are the primary focus for the study of virology. You think that people go get their masters in a biological science so they can poison your kids? Did you ever consider that maybe virologists want to end sickness forever? Imagine going to school up to 12years so people who know nothing about antigens or immunoglobulin can say your hard work is an evil plot. You are so fucking stupid.
@jordypoe Way to mis-interpret my statement. I have no doubt that biologists and virologists want to help people, and do legitimate science. The issue is not with the scientists, but with the fact that big pharmaceutical buys these scientists. Many probably do good work. But the vaccines that people take are full of poisonous crap that is bad for your body, such as heavy metals like mercury. Just look into it.
And get a grip. Why do you think MMR vac. has been linked to autism?
@WhatsReallyGoingOnUS you listen to celebrities who just arrogantly claim to be experts.There is no connection between MMR and autism. Not even one study has proven it.Why don't all of us have autism? Everyone gets vaccines because we don't want our children dying of small pox so people blame something that everyone has in common. Autism is a genetic disorder and vaccines have nothing to do with genetics.There is a very simple test for mercury and heavy metals so they are not in vaccines.Think.
@jordypoe Have you even attempted to research what is in the flu vaccines? Just search "flu vaccine ingredients" ... here is the first link, have a look for yourself:
h t t p://healthscents4u. c o m/FluVaccineIngredients.aspx
If you want to inject your children with poison, be my guest. I guess natural selection will tell us who makes the right decision. I suggest you research the topic rather than just regurgitate the big-pharma funded mainstream propaganda you've heard.
@hawanja Youtube tracks data such as where the video was linked from, days, times, etc.
The first viewing of this video was by somebody clicking a link from their own Youtube "My Videos" page (obviously the uploader). The second viewing was linked from Jon Huntsman's jon2012.com website. The third viewing, was from a search of Youtube for Ron Paul. This was also the first viewing linked to by Youtube.
... At the time of the second viewing, there is nobody that could have known the video even existed or where to find it except the original uploader, and they came from Huntsman's website. Remember, there had been no searches linking there yet.
A 12 year old could create a youtube account called NHLiberty4Huntsman and put videos on it that unfairly covers someone else, thus making Huntsman look like an ass. But should the media spend a week covering it? The media as a whole is so fucking conniving
It really doesn't matter if Hunstman created it in the grand scheme of things...the thing that matters is why did the media give SO much attention to a poorly created youtube video, calling it an "ad" from a "GROUP" that supports Ron Paul? How do they know its more than 1 person? And why is the youtube account only 6 days old? And why is that "ad" is the only uploaded video on the account? It was uploaded the day the NHLiberty4Paul account was created. But NONE of the media looked into that...
@TrevTrev25 Correct in all aspects. This is a smear. Timed perfectly by the media to reduce Paul in New Hampshire. The USA is becoming more corrupt by the day.
@TrevTrev25 Gee the same day...... With MANY thousands of Youtube video's on the campaign. Uploaded with the first 4 views to the Huntsman campaign. By someone with no history as a Paul supporter. With no other youtube videos. On a brand new account. That favors Huntsman and makes Paul supporters look bad. Claimed to be from a group and claimed to be an "ad" by the media. Anyone thst doesn't think this smells has no nose for the truth.
Where is this "available evidence"? Haha how am I supposed to believe this if they say they have evidence, but don't tell us what that evidence is so that we can verify it!
The Ron Paul campaign has no evidence of anything... and I'm going to maintain that until their "evidence" is released. Just because Jon2012 picked it up first on that site, doesn't mean anything. This is just an assertion without evidence.
Um....dont be so quick to dismiss man- just because Rachel Maddow didn't provide what evidence they have, doesn't mean they DONT have evidence. Research it further and you will find there is evidence linking the Huntsman campaign to that video.
@ReignbowSmite No evidence that this was a Paul supporter either. Let alone that this was a real ad. Which it wasn't. And you can't "prove" a negative.... But the same thing has shown up as a single under every other campaign also, under the Romney Santorum, Perry etc. Figure it out. you can google: theendrun dot com and look under "Huntsman Complicit ......"
youtube video record of the Huntsman forum claiming credit. Much more.
@cornas47 I never said the contrary was true either, don't be so paranoied. Some monkey made some claims that Maddow is parroting... and there's no evidence.
@cornas47 Nice rebuttal.You made a stupid presumptuous reply to me and now you're getting defensive because I called you out for it, now you're just trying to assault my character. You might want to google "Psychological projection".
@cornas47 I used evidence, when you made an unfounded accusation at me, That is indicative of paranoia. Paranoia - "Exhibiting or characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others."
When I attacked the claim that it was Huntsman's people, that doesn't mean I think Paulinteers did it. You assumed I was automatically blaming RP supporters because I didn't believe the claim it was Huntsman supporters.
My comment was about MSNBC's abuse of the word "Evidence".
"..it was so gross before it seemed even funny,.. and then it was not funny anymore".. is it possible to mangle the English language any worse than this lady just did ?
Ron Paul is the only conservitave in any sense of the word in America and is the only anti-war cannidate. He says bring the troops home, end the war on drugs, make government smaller, let the people keep their money and make thier own mistakes. There can't be a better conservative running for president. The only thing better would be an Anarchist running for president, and that just wont happen.
@hawanja Here's another question -- Why couldn't have been that some Huntsman supporters stumbled onto the video before it became widely popular, reported it to the campaign, and the campaign was quick to respond? Is that really more improbable than the campaign making the video themselves???
@TheMidwestAtheist Stumbled on the video and was quick to respond????? Within 4 views of the video? On the same day? Perhaps within minutes? One or more of the views from the original creator of the video???? The other being the Jon Huntsman campaign? Come on. This was a political dirty trick from the Huntsman campaign. It is despicable. And they got caught at it. Notice it was called "an ad"??? A youtube video is now an "ad"????? Got brain cells? Use them.
This definitely is not the work of Dr. Paul's campaign... And neither Mr. Huntsman's. It feels like a job of the fed supporters... rich capitalists' insider job, because... If Ron Paul becomes the final Republican candidate for president, I feel that Mr. Huntsman would be the perfect Vice President... or at least the Secretary of the state given his credentials, expertise, and intellect.
BUSTED!!!!!! Huntsman campaign caught bragging about creating the video on their forum, then realized they were in the public section scrambled to ease it, Huntsman daughter is talking on the forum
After gushing over Huntsman's qualifications to be president last week, while simultaneously smearing Paul with this absurd ad - not to mention conducting absolutely no investigation by which to determine who was behind disseminating it - Rachel makes it very clear she is a Huntsman partisan by pushing his candidacy with all the free publicity she can give. Then, in this video, she scoffs at the Paul campaign's proof that the ad is traceable to Huntsman supporters. Truth means little to her.
Anyone doing 2 mins of research can see this emanated from the Huntsman camp. Why would Paul supporters criticize Huntsman for speaking Mandarin, while we simultaneously praise legendary investor Jim Rogers who moved his family and business to Asia and has championed having his children learn Mandarin and other languages to prepare them for the 21st century?
Jon Huntsman is as banksters controlled boy as it gets. In fact I'd rather see Rick Perry as president than this slime ball who attacks his own family and goes on the media and acts like a victim, what an evil, sick, retarded demon this guy is!
What I want to know is why no one has raised the question..what was jon huntsman doing in a mcdonalds in china when he was the ambasador over there, the mcdonalds in question was the one that the yasmin..protests were to take place ..before the china gov, shut it down someone it seemed did not get the memo ..and got caught by a repoter who posted the confrontation he had with mr.jon on u tube..could it be they are waiting till he gets ahead to bring it out?
If you support anyone other than Gary Johnson 2012 , Your just an idiot. If you want to know why your an idiot then youtube this video called "5 reasons i dont support ron paul and who i do support". Its an awesome video and i dont possably see how you could support anyone other than Gary Johnson 2012. Gary Johnson 2012 is BY FAR the best canidate on ballot for the last 50+ years.
MSNBC just said, exactly the same thing FOX said "Ron Paul is a strong second but he will never get the nomination". This is called FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS. The game is rigged!
There is more on this. One of the Huntsman daughters, maybe a couple of them posted on his forum that they did it, and talking about a new one they intended to release Monday. A screen capture was taken before they were told they'd been caught - the Huntsman forum deleted or moved the thread. Then another public thread started where many people who had been alerted to the scam on Ron Paul and his supporters posted up. Google this thread title - The paulbots are going crazy with our video
More on the subject, here is the video title where the screen capture of the thread that was deleted is shown. Search You Tube for - Huntsman Campaign BUSTED as TROLLS
@franks2732 Try to think for yourself and not just repeat media lies. Actually, just go and talk to 5 random people and ask them about Ron Paul. You will then see the truth!
@onelovejuju I am a socialist I do not like the "media" in the USA as it is too right wing. I do however like the polls and the political nature of campaigns. Ron Paul is unelectable because he is "bat shit crazy". And more than 2/3rds of the GOP membership agree with me on that one. And I take the people in the polling booths much more serious than your "random selection" LMFAO
@franks2732 There is nothing "bat shit crazy" about individual liberty, small government, constitutional declared wars, sound money, drug decriminalization, the constitution! I strongly encourage you to open your mind beyond the "socialist" label that you proclaim and imagine a society that is truely free....you will then find and understand Dr. Paul and stop LYFAO.
@onelovejuju if "small government means getting right of the EPA, the FDA, The dept. of education and commerce etc I don't want any of it. If freedom means letting "ice' addicts buy drugs across the counter i don't want it, If freedom means allowing schools to teach creationism I don't want it. If freedom mean interpreting a document in accordance with an ideology rather than it's intent, I don't want it. Paul's society has nothing to do with freedom only greed and stupidity i.e. bat shit crazy
@franks2732 You're a fucking idiot. EPA, FDA (which is basically run by Monsanto) and Federal Dept. of Education are horrible failures. Education has fucking gone down ever since the Dept. of Education was created, for fuck's sake.
@itachi705 You do know education in the USA owes itself to the Dept. of Education. You do realize that 88% of Americans were educated via the public system. And before "public education" the literacy rate in the USA was abysmal. You do realize that Ron Paul had a "public school education". LMFAO. You do realize that the USA has a 99% literacy rate. You do realize the USA is 12th in the world in educational standards. For fuck sake you are thick!
@franks2732 insane? so wanting people to live free and do what ever they want to do in their lives as long as they dont force their views or hurt anyone is insanity then yes i am insane.
@hardkoregamer999 That means nothing, not one thing you said "means" anything. It's just words. So letting someone die because they cannot afford health insurance? Is that freedom? No. Is preventing women from having abortions? No. Is closing the Education dept denying 88% of American Children and education, Is that freedom buddy? Is that "really" freedom. People force their views on others all the time. My roads, my public services are NOT for sale to serve your freeDumb
@itachi705 You do know that the federal dept. of education controls most of that to meet with international standards et , etc. And that Ron Paul is against "public education" be it state or federal. He might say he believes in 'states' rights but HE believes in no public education at all. Are you retarded. It's like Abortion HE believes it is Wrong. He is running for President of the USA not the state governor! He also believes it is OK to teach creationism in school. Yes, HE DOES!
@franks2732 His actual intention is to have both systems so that people can choose, he also believes that both evolution and creationism should be taught at school again so people can choose. His choice is of no consequence as a Libertarian he has to allow those that do not hold his opinion to have their way as well and Franks that does not include criminal behaviour like child molestation.
@watgaanhieraan that is his choice, I do not agree with him. I think his ideas will bring about chaos and are stupid. And I really do think it is OK for the government to force people to learn scientific reality in school. His choice of "no consequence" in my view is naive and dangerous. When does it start and where does it finish? He also says 'states' can introduce laws he disagrees with but not the federal level government whilst maintaining he believes in libertarian ideals. He is a joke
@franks2732 Then the public education system must start producing real scientific students instead of having to import Asians for their top scientific work at present the public school system standards are crap and it shows in the lack of high end American generational scientific and engineering graduates. I think a large chunk of Libertarian philosophy is to decentralise power and I think that is why he prefers states, smaller fuck ups and if succeesful an example for others to follow.
Are you saying that if they create a Dept. of We Will Wipe Your Own Ass for You, that if I decide I don't want strangers in my bathroom trying to force me to let them wipe my ass for me, I should be able to get rid of that Dept, or at least not participate in its functioning?
@itachi705 OK like I said "Ron Paul supporters" are indeed bat shit crazy. You do know the EPA looks after shit like the Nuclear energy sector LMFAO. Just like the Dept of Energy. Free ice and Nuclear fallout. I know perhaps we will let the Nuclear sector regulate themselves just like Ron Paul wants. LMFAO. Ron Paul and his supporters are bat shit cray. Get your crack pipe live the Ron Paul dream
@franks2732 Sir , you offer nothing to support your claim and you sound like a uninformed child.Please go educate yourself on the facts.we cannot debate conjecture .
@freefalable No Just the facts, I understand them facts are rather confusing. Could you point as to where I am factually flawed. I mean Ron Paul did go to Public School, the literacy rate before public education was well abysmal now 99% of Americans can read and write. Not a bad statistic. The EPA most certainly does protect society from 'pollution' etc. I know rather than having a unified "federal" policy we let business regulate themselves LMFAO.Now run along now and dispute my actual evidence
@franks2732 Nope, that's not the EPA moron, that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which is an independent agency. Try to learn what the fuck you're talking about before you start spouting shit.
As a side note, do you see the UL symbol under your mouse? Ever plug a power supply into an electrical outlet? Thank private sector regulation, genius.
@itachi705 The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) is an independent agency of the "United States Government" it is not a private agency. It is part of the US Government and Ron Paul believes in NO regulation of "private industry"by government. You do know Ron would shut it down too! You do know that the EPA also supervisors Nuclear power plants and regulates the removal and storage of nuclear waste etc. You do know this basic stuff. You do know the EPA checks the nuclear stockpiles.
@franks2732 Thats right itachi who do you think keeps your petro dollar strong the department of defence and who do you think protects you against blowback the CIA and the FBI, you need your departments strong else you wont be king of the world.
@watgaanhieraan Personally I think the dept that controls the sale and production of petroleum fuels is really important. I do however disagree with a large aggressive defense dept. And no I do not support 'state dept's controlling the manufacture and refining of petrol/gas etc. It would make 'state boarder' crossing a little nasty.
Okay, here is where some "investigative journalism" would produce results such as IP searches, web caches and the like, possibly leaving a trail of evidence right too the original poster...
Nobody cares about Huntsman. Then "NHLiberty4Paul" makes Huntsman look like a humanitarian, adopting all those sweet little foreign kids like Brangelina, and a presidential guy with experience. It has to be the Huntsman campaign because, well, he doesn't have any supporters that would do it for him. And really, since when did some anonymous youtube video matter in a presidential campaign? You know how many videos tie Obama to Islam and Hitler? Should we do a segment on those?
this is wayy to obvious, it IS from huntsman campaign, why? bc, for one, everyone CLAIMS that ron paul is racist, so they purposely used to show the people that paul is attacking huntsman for adopting his kids. trying to convince everyone that paul is racist. wow....sad. sorry huntsman but you are figured out!!!!!
Thats like cutting off your hand and saying it was your spouse and then you sue him deforce him and take all of his money. sure you lost a hand but you gain so much.
Actually Rachell the Paul campaign did'nt have to investigate the info was there for the world to see and I saw youtube and websites talking about before Paul even knew about the ad
Unfortunately I've think you've placed a little too much faith in Olbermann as an honest human being and I don't think it's likely that he'll apologize for his false messages of hate.
The poster of the video was no Paul supporter, since the video only makes Paul look bad. A true Paul supporter would know the mainstream media would only use the ad to demagogue Paul himself. And, why have they yet to take the ad down? Why was it first referred to Jon2012? This is clearly the doings of a desperate campaign. Hunstman has staked his whole campaign on New Hampshire, and has barely gotten any traction. If he doesn't get at least 2nd, he's done. That's why this ad appeared now.
@Alan1029Smith Ah, a TRUE(TM) Paul supporter, huh? Just like no TRUE(TM) Scottsman would be a sex maniac. (Look up "No true Scottsman" on Wikipedia if you don't get it.) While you can bask in the glory of the up votes you are getting, realize that using fallacious arguments also turns off people like me and away from Ron Paul.
Check this out h t t p : / / o r i n j e . c o m / t h r e a d s / 4 3 0 4 1 6 - T h e - p a u l b o t s - a r e - g o i n g - c r a z y - w i t h - o u r - v i d e o Remove the spaces and type into your browser, OUTRIGHT ADMISSION on Orinje that the video was created by the Huntsman campaign. RON PAUL 2012
That video was suspicious from the moment I saw it It would be interesting to find out if those personal photos and video of Huntsman speaking Chinese were EVER on the internet BEFORE the attack video was made
Why would anyone make an attack ad against Huntsman in the first place he was so far back people didn't even know he existed?
Within hours it made MSM and a big up roar Kissinger endorsed Huntsman guess he has insider blessings now. Wow, dirty tricks question everything
Karl Rove used a similar tactic in 1996. He had flyers made up viciously attacking his own client (Harold See) and his family. They were distributed in the middle of the night- left in peoples front yards like newspapers. People assumed the opponent (Ken Ingram) did it and held it against him. Rove's client won. I believe someone in NYC pulled this some years ago also.
The ad is clearly a ploy to make sure Huntman's surge comes at the expense of Paul and not Romney. The media's pushing for a 2nd place finish for Huntsman in New Hampshire, just as they pushed for a 2nd place finish for Santorum in Iowa. Not only do they not want Paul to win, they don't want him to place anywhere near the top. Prior to the Iowa caucuses, Ron Paul was in contention to win, until one outlying poll showed Santorum with 15%. The media ran with it and basically engineered his surge.
that video is stupid, media tried to make some deal about it... of course it was Huntsman's he made the video noticeable to the press. bad move... anyway... that's nothing to do with Ron Paul's message let's keep focusing on the important issues... Ron Paul 2012!
Most Ron Paul supporters are not racists. Most Ron Paul supporters are technically savvy. How such a shitty and tasteless video could come from a Paul supporter is mind boggling. However, if you look up such channels as sXeCanadianBoy or TheHomelandDefender, troll videos against RP are pretty much the exact same formula as what was found in the "manchurian" video. If it didn't come from the campaign, if its anonymous, then use a little discretion.
it was made by his daughters. The video was first ever linked from Twitter and the twitter account had connections with John Huntsman and John2012girls
"Ron Paul supporter"? I dont get it. Ron Paul doesnt do that kind of stuff.
Ecoscienceczar 1 month ago
Guys I have no idea who is running through president. Is ron paul running?
TheMagicalPuffBunny 1 month ago
@TheMagicalPuffBunny Yes. Vote for Ron Paul if you want your civil liberties back, if you value the Constitution, if you are against War, etc.
PLEASE ... look up the NDAA and see if you can figure out why Obama would sign legislation that would allow the police AND military to detain US Citizens INDEFINITELY, without right to council, or a jury trial. Total violation of the Constitution.
PLEASE look up the NDAA Bill that was signed on 12/31/11.
WhatsReallyGoingOnUS 1 month ago
this is the best thing to happen to huntsman
an50331 1 month ago
nobody cares about this.
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Dmlaney 1 month ago
Tempest in a teacup. So someone made a sour video. She's going to use that to smear RP and decent people like me, who support him? What a demagoguing cunt.
lovenow 1 month ago
Somewhere Karl Rove is in a bar somewhere saying "I invented that strategy" to the hairy leather daddy whose lap he's sitting on.
snappycatchy 1 month ago
this dike can suck a dick. Shes a traitor
Seigu007 1 month ago
Huntsmans supporters mean good but in order to revolutionize anything you hunstman supporters are going to have to back Ron Paul.
BTW all you democrats, Obama is no longer your hope, the only chance you have is Vermin Supreme.
ThatBrowser 1 month ago
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HAHA jon hunstman 9/11ed himself to prove to the croneys he was worthy of the postion of overlord supreme
dude102388 1 month ago
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Quote from the Huntsman campaign.
"It is offensive that Ron Paul’s allies would claim that Gov. Huntsman’s own family would create such a video."
The study commissioned by the Ron Paul Campaign merely said that is was someone within or closely tied to the Huntsmen campaign, they never said anything about Huntsman's family being involved (images.politico(DOTCOM)/global/2012/01/cando_com_analysis.html). The study never mentions Huntsman's family.
Freudian slip anyone?! BUSTED :D
GhibliOmatiC 1 month ago
They made it a bit obvious too, considering:
- The video was posted on thesame day that brand new user account was created.
- The video then appeared on Huntsman's website immediately after it was posted, before anybody else picked it up.
- It was originally tagged "jon2012girls"
lmao
87webdev 1 month ago
@87webdev "before anybody else picked it up"
And you can prove this how? Seriously, how can you assume this exactly?
snipzor 1 month ago
@snipzor Google "huntsman-complicit-in-false-flag-style-dirty-trick-against-paul"
Someone looked up the youtube stats, and they also screenshot the account before it was deleted
87webdev 1 month ago
@87webdev And of course, only Paultards support the theory. So cute.
snipzor 1 month ago
@snipzor Huntsman is that you?
87webdev 1 month ago
@87webdev I very much doubt Jon would be as interested in videogames as I am. Although, if his personal non-existent youtube channel favorites some Bioshock: Infinite videos, then I'll like him as a person more.
snipzor 1 month ago
@snipzor Wait are you admitting you are dumber than a 'Paultard'. Progress.
jsu401 1 month ago
So, it would be pretty easy for somebody to make a video calling Ron Paul a crazy old man, put it out on youtube from the Huntsman campaign, and it would reflect just as badly on Jon Huntsman? Probably not, since there are hundreds of videos calling Ron Paul crazy-even from the MSM. Let this crap go. It's a hit piece and the video doesn't reflect ANYTHING that resembles Ron Paul and his criticisms of other candidates. Ron Paul had no reason to attack Jon Huntsman at this point, anyways.
wonderming1 1 month ago
Another false flag? And people have the nerve to claim that such things simply don't happen.
abe2517 1 month ago
The oldest trick in the book: Fake an attack on yourself to discredit your adversary.
hansjalv 1 month ago
@hansjalv Get ready .... "Iran" is going to "attack" a US ship. 5 bucks says they do it in October though .... to boost support for Obama and Netan-yahoo during their re-election campaigns. And the Americans are going to eat it up like it is apple pie.
WhatsReallyGoingOnUS 1 month ago 10
@WhatsReallyGoingOnUS Give us American's a little bit of credit we are waking up.
mrptroa 1 month ago
@mrptroa I'm American too. But I have little faith in the general populous. All you have to do is look at the percentage of people that still vaccinate their children.
WhatsReallyGoingOnUS 1 month ago
@WhatsReallyGoingOnUS I love that you say Americans are dumb and then say the dumbest thing ever. Vaccinations are the primary focus for the study of virology. You think that people go get their masters in a biological science so they can poison your kids? Did you ever consider that maybe virologists want to end sickness forever? Imagine going to school up to 12years so people who know nothing about antigens or immunoglobulin can say your hard work is an evil plot. You are so fucking stupid.
jordypoe 1 month ago
@jordypoe Way to mis-interpret my statement. I have no doubt that biologists and virologists want to help people, and do legitimate science. The issue is not with the scientists, but with the fact that big pharmaceutical buys these scientists. Many probably do good work. But the vaccines that people take are full of poisonous crap that is bad for your body, such as heavy metals like mercury. Just look into it.
And get a grip. Why do you think MMR vac. has been linked to autism?
WhatsReallyGoingOnUS 1 month ago
@WhatsReallyGoingOnUS you listen to celebrities who just arrogantly claim to be experts.There is no connection between MMR and autism. Not even one study has proven it.Why don't all of us have autism? Everyone gets vaccines because we don't want our children dying of small pox so people blame something that everyone has in common. Autism is a genetic disorder and vaccines have nothing to do with genetics.There is a very simple test for mercury and heavy metals so they are not in vaccines.Think.
jordypoe 1 month ago
@jordypoe Have you even attempted to research what is in the flu vaccines? Just search "flu vaccine ingredients" ... here is the first link, have a look for yourself:
h t t p://healthscents4u. c o m/FluVaccineIngredients.aspx
If you want to inject your children with poison, be my guest. I guess natural selection will tell us who makes the right decision. I suggest you research the topic rather than just regurgitate the big-pharma funded mainstream propaganda you've heard.
WhatsReallyGoingOnUS 1 month ago
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jim67m 1 month ago
@hawanja Youtube tracks data such as where the video was linked from, days, times, etc.
The first viewing of this video was by somebody clicking a link from their own Youtube "My Videos" page (obviously the uploader). The second viewing was linked from Jon Huntsman's jon2012.com website. The third viewing, was from a search of Youtube for Ron Paul. This was also the first viewing linked to by Youtube.
jim67m 1 month ago
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... At the time of the second viewing, there is nobody that could have known the video even existed or where to find it except the original uploader, and they came from Huntsman's website. Remember, there had been no searches linking there yet.
jim67m 1 month ago
A 12 year old could create a youtube account called NHLiberty4Huntsman and put videos on it that unfairly covers someone else, thus making Huntsman look like an ass. But should the media spend a week covering it? The media as a whole is so fucking conniving
TrevTrev25 1 month ago
It really doesn't matter if Hunstman created it in the grand scheme of things...the thing that matters is why did the media give SO much attention to a poorly created youtube video, calling it an "ad" from a "GROUP" that supports Ron Paul? How do they know its more than 1 person? And why is the youtube account only 6 days old? And why is that "ad" is the only uploaded video on the account? It was uploaded the day the NHLiberty4Paul account was created. But NONE of the media looked into that...
TrevTrev25 1 month ago
@TrevTrev25 Correct in all aspects. This is a smear. Timed perfectly by the media to reduce Paul in New Hampshire. The USA is becoming more corrupt by the day.
cornas47 1 month ago
@TrevTrev25 Gee the same day...... With MANY thousands of Youtube video's on the campaign. Uploaded with the first 4 views to the Huntsman campaign. By someone with no history as a Paul supporter. With no other youtube videos. On a brand new account. That favors Huntsman and makes Paul supporters look bad. Claimed to be from a group and claimed to be an "ad" by the media. Anyone thst doesn't think this smells has no nose for the truth.
cornas47 1 month ago
maddow you are a gross zionist dyke!!!
proticalsonn 1 month ago
Where is this "available evidence"? Haha how am I supposed to believe this if they say they have evidence, but don't tell us what that evidence is so that we can verify it!
The Ron Paul campaign has no evidence of anything... and I'm going to maintain that until their "evidence" is released. Just because Jon2012 picked it up first on that site, doesn't mean anything. This is just an assertion without evidence.
Next non news story please.
ReignbowSmite 1 month ago
@ReignbowSmite
Um....dont be so quick to dismiss man- just because Rachel Maddow didn't provide what evidence they have, doesn't mean they DONT have evidence. Research it further and you will find there is evidence linking the Huntsman campaign to that video.
TrevTrev25 1 month ago
@TrevTrev25 Im dismissing the non evidence, along with Maddow who's parroting this horse shit non-news.
Just because a bunch of people in a forum claim they did it is meaningless without the creator of the video.
ReignbowSmite 1 month ago
@ReignbowSmite No evidence that this was a Paul supporter either. Let alone that this was a real ad. Which it wasn't. And you can't "prove" a negative.... But the same thing has shown up as a single under every other campaign also, under the Romney Santorum, Perry etc. Figure it out. you can google: theendrun dot com and look under "Huntsman Complicit ......"
youtube video record of the Huntsman forum claiming credit. Much more.
cornas47 1 month ago
@cornas47 I never said the contrary was true either, don't be so paranoied. Some monkey made some claims that Maddow is parroting... and there's no evidence.
ReignbowSmite 1 month ago
@ReignbowSmite Gee, I'm "paranoid" because I question this? You have problems dude. Deal with them and leave me out of them.
cornas47 1 month ago
@cornas47 You're paranoid because you assumed you knew my position without my saying anything. You assumed I was suggesting a Paul supporter did it.
Leave YOU out of it? Wasn't it you who engaged this discussion?
Backpeadling monkey fart.
ReignbowSmite 1 month ago
@ReignbowSmite Got Prosac? Take a triple dose. You seem to have missed a few doses.
cornas47 1 month ago
@cornas47 Nice rebuttal.You made a stupid presumptuous reply to me and now you're getting defensive because I called you out for it, now you're just trying to assault my character. You might want to google "Psychological projection".
You Sir have no class or honesty.
ReignbowSmite 1 month ago
@ReignbowSmite Uh huh...... something about "paranoid" and "monkey.........
Thank you for the lessons in "presumption" and "class." LOL
cornas47 1 month ago
@cornas47 I used evidence, when you made an unfounded accusation at me, That is indicative of paranoia. Paranoia - "Exhibiting or characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others."
When I attacked the claim that it was Huntsman's people, that doesn't mean I think Paulinteers did it. You assumed I was automatically blaming RP supporters because I didn't believe the claim it was Huntsman supporters.
My comment was about MSNBC's abuse of the word "Evidence".
ReignbowSmite 1 month ago
@ReignbowSmite ....Yawn........ It's pretty clear dude. And I didn't assume anything. Hang in there though. Peace.
cornas47 1 month ago
@cornas47 A forum claiming credit is meaningless unless the creator is actually found.
ReignbowSmite 1 month ago
Where there's smoke , there's fire.
Huntsman, another scumbag.
mascar33 1 month ago 7
"..it was so gross before it seemed even funny,.. and then it was not funny anymore".. is it possible to mangle the English language any worse than this lady just did ?
mrdarcyme 1 month ago
Romney is a liberal
Huntsman a big government politician
and
Newt a Liberal in the closet.
Ron Paul is the only conservitave in any sense of the word in America and is the only anti-war cannidate. He says bring the troops home, end the war on drugs, make government smaller, let the people keep their money and make thier own mistakes. There can't be a better conservative running for president. The only thing better would be an Anarchist running for president, and that just wont happen.
MirageScience 1 month ago
@hawanja Here's another question -- Why couldn't have been that some Huntsman supporters stumbled onto the video before it became widely popular, reported it to the campaign, and the campaign was quick to respond? Is that really more improbable than the campaign making the video themselves???
TheMidwestAtheist 1 month ago
@TheMidwestAtheist Stumbled on the video and was quick to respond????? Within 4 views of the video? On the same day? Perhaps within minutes? One or more of the views from the original creator of the video???? The other being the Jon Huntsman campaign? Come on. This was a political dirty trick from the Huntsman campaign. It is despicable. And they got caught at it. Notice it was called "an ad"??? A youtube video is now an "ad"????? Got brain cells? Use them.
cornas47 1 month ago
Very clever, tactical subversion....better than setting hair on fire :)
iUbookz 1 month ago
Is it really that hard to believe? After all, it was the end of the teen comedy "Mean Girls".
i3igpete 1 month ago
Huntsman is supported by Evelyn Rothschild, wake up sheeples!!!
TheKingnek 1 month ago
This definitely is not the work of Dr. Paul's campaign... And neither Mr. Huntsman's. It feels like a job of the fed supporters... rich capitalists' insider job, because... If Ron Paul becomes the final Republican candidate for president, I feel that Mr. Huntsman would be the perfect Vice President... or at least the Secretary of the state given his credentials, expertise, and intellect.
RussellMUpol 1 month ago 2
BUSTED!!!!!! Huntsman campaign caught bragging about creating the video on their forum, then realized they were in the public section scrambled to ease it, Huntsman daughter is talking on the forum
republicunderground 1 month ago
Nice! Did you do this, Moxy?
talkingprimate 1 month ago
Hahaha, that's great... gotta love politics in America!
DRANON82 1 month ago
After gushing over Huntsman's qualifications to be president last week, while simultaneously smearing Paul with this absurd ad - not to mention conducting absolutely no investigation by which to determine who was behind disseminating it - Rachel makes it very clear she is a Huntsman partisan by pushing his candidacy with all the free publicity she can give. Then, in this video, she scoffs at the Paul campaign's proof that the ad is traceable to Huntsman supporters. Truth means little to her.
Mosier2 1 month ago
Huntsman supporters beware! You don`t want a machiavelian slime in office.
whatever6911 1 month ago
I'm surprised to see this addressed in the MSM media. The internet has known this was a stunt by the Huntsman campaign for a while now.
Eric21ND 1 month ago
Anyone doing 2 mins of research can see this emanated from the Huntsman camp. Why would Paul supporters criticize Huntsman for speaking Mandarin, while we simultaneously praise legendary investor Jim Rogers who moved his family and business to Asia and has championed having his children learn Mandarin and other languages to prepare them for the 21st century?
Eric21ND 1 month ago
Whoever made the video had access to Huntsman family video footage.
peterscottfrost 1 month ago
Props to Rachael Maddow for showing the dissenting opinion among the onslaught of misreported information.
chronotriggerfan 1 month ago
Jon Huntsman is as banksters controlled boy as it gets. In fact I'd rather see Rick Perry as president than this slime ball who attacks his own family and goes on the media and acts like a victim, what an evil, sick, retarded demon this guy is!
SlickR12345 1 month ago 19
we need some new inflammatory ads out on rick perry -- lets boot that governor back to austin.
dontfwithme2010 1 month ago
What I want to know is why no one has raised the question..what was jon huntsman doing in a mcdonalds in china when he was the ambasador over there, the mcdonalds in question was the one that the yasmin..protests were to take place ..before the china gov, shut it down someone it seemed did not get the memo ..and got caught by a repoter who posted the confrontation he had with mr.jon on u tube..could it be they are waiting till he gets ahead to bring it out?
jane5457 1 month ago
It's all he said she said. We won't ever know
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dkoribag1 1 month ago
The second referral (with a single view- the second total view) came from the huntsman campaign website. Likely from a
Webmail embed. The thing about videos is that the first several views are usually people watching their own videos.
jeffreydun1 1 month ago
@jeffreydun1 This is true. The second I see the little link after uploading, I go straight to the viewing page! Just to see it officially, lol.
agrv8ion 1 month ago
swisshakilla: huh? ignore? There is a huge difference between negative ads and "false flag" style dirty tricks.
StandUpForLiberty 1 month ago
Rachel is dumb bias bitch
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Rick Perry - Cry Per Irk
Jon Huntsman - Jams nth Noun
Rick Santorum - Rims Okra Cunt
Newt Gingrich - Wenching Grit
Mitt Romney - Morm'n, Ye Tit
Republican Party - Papery Lubricant
RON PAUL = OUR PLAN
GM4ThePeople 1 month ago
MSNBC just said, exactly the same thing FOX said "Ron Paul is a strong second but he will never get the nomination". This is called FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS. The game is rigged!
bamboo4tameshigiri 1 month ago 3
So the Ronulans ignore the negative ads put out by the Paul Super Pacs?...
swisshakilla 1 month ago
There is more on this. One of the Huntsman daughters, maybe a couple of them posted on his forum that they did it, and talking about a new one they intended to release Monday. A screen capture was taken before they were told they'd been caught - the Huntsman forum deleted or moved the thread. Then another public thread started where many people who had been alerted to the scam on Ron Paul and his supporters posted up. Google this thread title - The paulbots are going crazy with our video
futurequake 1 month ago
More on the subject, here is the video title where the screen capture of the thread that was deleted is shown. Search You Tube for - Huntsman Campaign BUSTED as TROLLS
Screen capture addy, just add h--p://
imgur.com/a/Jw679
futurequake 1 month ago
Wake up motherfuckers. The revolution is coming to your front door.
87cadillachearse 1 month ago 2
This is SICK!!! I'm so tired people adopting foreign children just for self promotion! smh man ((-__-))
Genevill 1 month ago
I think they've proved it came from Huntsman ! I just saw a clip on it.
iondetox 1 month ago
This is not a surprise to any Ron Paul supporters (which are the majority of Americans).
onelovejuju 1 month ago
@onelovejuju LMFAO Mr Unelectable
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 Try to think for yourself and not just repeat media lies. Actually, just go and talk to 5 random people and ask them about Ron Paul. You will then see the truth!
onelovejuju 1 month ago
@onelovejuju I am a socialist I do not like the "media" in the USA as it is too right wing. I do however like the polls and the political nature of campaigns. Ron Paul is unelectable because he is "bat shit crazy". And more than 2/3rds of the GOP membership agree with me on that one. And I take the people in the polling booths much more serious than your "random selection" LMFAO
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 There is nothing "bat shit crazy" about individual liberty, small government, constitutional declared wars, sound money, drug decriminalization, the constitution! I strongly encourage you to open your mind beyond the "socialist" label that you proclaim and imagine a society that is truely free....you will then find and understand Dr. Paul and stop LYFAO.
onelovejuju 1 month ago
@onelovejuju if "small government means getting right of the EPA, the FDA, The dept. of education and commerce etc I don't want any of it. If freedom means letting "ice' addicts buy drugs across the counter i don't want it, If freedom means allowing schools to teach creationism I don't want it. If freedom mean interpreting a document in accordance with an ideology rather than it's intent, I don't want it. Paul's society has nothing to do with freedom only greed and stupidity i.e. bat shit crazy
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 "rid of"
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 You're a fucking idiot. EPA, FDA (which is basically run by Monsanto) and Federal Dept. of Education are horrible failures. Education has fucking gone down ever since the Dept. of Education was created, for fuck's sake.
itachi705 1 month ago
@itachi705 You do know education in the USA owes itself to the Dept. of Education. You do realize that 88% of Americans were educated via the public system. And before "public education" the literacy rate in the USA was abysmal. You do realize that Ron Paul had a "public school education". LMFAO. You do realize that the USA has a 99% literacy rate. You do realize the USA is 12th in the world in educational standards. For fuck sake you are thick!
franks2732 1 month ago
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hardkoregamer999 1 month ago
@franks2732 <-------- control freak
hardkoregamer999 1 month ago
@hardkoregamer999 fucking insane paulbot
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 insane? so wanting people to live free and do what ever they want to do in their lives as long as they dont force their views or hurt anyone is insanity then yes i am insane.
hardkoregamer999 1 month ago
@hardkoregamer999 That means nothing, not one thing you said "means" anything. It's just words. So letting someone die because they cannot afford health insurance? Is that freedom? No. Is preventing women from having abortions? No. Is closing the Education dept denying 88% of American Children and education, Is that freedom buddy? Is that "really" freedom. People force their views on others all the time. My roads, my public services are NOT for sale to serve your freeDumb
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 your still thinking in collectivism thats pretty primitive.
hardkoregamer999 1 month ago
@franks2732 "You do realize that 88% of Americans were educated via the public system."
You do realize that you are talking about STATE departments when I was clearly talking about the Federal department, right? Are you retarded?
itachi705 1 month ago
@itachi705 You do know that the federal dept. of education controls most of that to meet with international standards et , etc. And that Ron Paul is against "public education" be it state or federal. He might say he believes in 'states' rights but HE believes in no public education at all. Are you retarded. It's like Abortion HE believes it is Wrong. He is running for President of the USA not the state governor! He also believes it is OK to teach creationism in school. Yes, HE DOES!
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 His actual intention is to have both systems so that people can choose, he also believes that both evolution and creationism should be taught at school again so people can choose. His choice is of no consequence as a Libertarian he has to allow those that do not hold his opinion to have their way as well and Franks that does not include criminal behaviour like child molestation.
watgaanhieraan 1 month ago
@watgaanhieraan that is his choice, I do not agree with him. I think his ideas will bring about chaos and are stupid. And I really do think it is OK for the government to force people to learn scientific reality in school. His choice of "no consequence" in my view is naive and dangerous. When does it start and where does it finish? He also says 'states' can introduce laws he disagrees with but not the federal level government whilst maintaining he believes in libertarian ideals. He is a joke
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 Then the public education system must start producing real scientific students instead of having to import Asians for their top scientific work at present the public school system standards are crap and it shows in the lack of high end American generational scientific and engineering graduates. I think a large chunk of Libertarian philosophy is to decentralise power and I think that is why he prefers states, smaller fuck ups and if succeesful an example for others to follow.
watgaanhieraan 1 month ago
@watgaanhieraan i prefer kids having a proper education-all kids
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 That is your right and if enough people decide that, so it will be whether Libetarians like it or not.
watgaanhieraan 1 month ago
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dimeuno 1 month ago
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@itachi705
Are you saying that if they create a Dept. of We Will Wipe Your Own Ass for You, that if I decide I don't want strangers in my bathroom trying to force me to let them wipe my ass for me, I should be able to get rid of that Dept, or at least not participate in its functioning?
Because if you are, I completely agree.
dimeuno 1 month ago
@franks2732
"If freedom means letting "ice' addicts buy drugs across the counter i don't want it"
LOLOL Nothing is stopping me from buying nail polish remover or propane and using them as inhalants, should we ban them too?
Why don't we just ban alcohol again? Why don't we just ban cars since so many people die in automobile accidents, huh asshole?
itachi705 1 month ago 17
@itachi705 OK like I said "Ron Paul supporters" are indeed bat shit crazy. You do know the EPA looks after shit like the Nuclear energy sector LMFAO. Just like the Dept of Energy. Free ice and Nuclear fallout. I know perhaps we will let the Nuclear sector regulate themselves just like Ron Paul wants. LMFAO. Ron Paul and his supporters are bat shit cray. Get your crack pipe live the Ron Paul dream
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 Sir , you offer nothing to support your claim and you sound like a uninformed child.Please go educate yourself on the facts.we cannot debate conjecture .
freefalable 1 month ago
@freefalable No Just the facts, I understand them facts are rather confusing. Could you point as to where I am factually flawed. I mean Ron Paul did go to Public School, the literacy rate before public education was well abysmal now 99% of Americans can read and write. Not a bad statistic. The EPA most certainly does protect society from 'pollution' etc. I know rather than having a unified "federal" policy we let business regulate themselves LMFAO.Now run along now and dispute my actual evidence
franks2732 1 month ago
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@franks2732 Dr. Ron Paul=Integrity/Liberty/Honesty/Peace/Fearlessness
Obama=Bush/Romney/Santorum/wallstreet/establishment/wars
The most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life is that RP is racist or a danger for the USA.
RP is a danger for the corrupt establishment.
The Republicans would rather Obama to win before Ron Paul.
They are shit scared of RP...
rolovolo 1 month ago
@franks2732
“He who is a slave and a coward and knows it not,
perceives a free and fearless man as 'evil', 'insane', 'radical' or 'dangerous'
...out of fear of losing his cozy slave 'security'....”
-Lady Gaga-
rolovolo 1 month ago
@rolovolo You can now Stop spamming my channel. I removed your comments & blocked you.
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 <------Don't be so hard on mentally disabled people.
(check his channel)
rolovolo 1 month ago
@rolovolo you sir are a fruitcake who spammed my channel, you are an idiot
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 Nope, that's not the EPA moron, that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which is an independent agency. Try to learn what the fuck you're talking about before you start spouting shit.
As a side note, do you see the UL symbol under your mouse? Ever plug a power supply into an electrical outlet? Thank private sector regulation, genius.
itachi705 1 month ago
@itachi705 The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) is an independent agency of the "United States Government" it is not a private agency. It is part of the US Government and Ron Paul believes in NO regulation of "private industry"by government. You do know Ron would shut it down too! You do know that the EPA also supervisors Nuclear power plants and regulates the removal and storage of nuclear waste etc. You do know this basic stuff. You do know the EPA checks the nuclear stockpiles.
franks2732 1 month ago
@itachi705 You do know that many agencies work together to protect your ass
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 Thats right itachi who do you think keeps your petro dollar strong the department of defence and who do you think protects you against blowback the CIA and the FBI, you need your departments strong else you wont be king of the world.
watgaanhieraan 1 month ago
@watgaanhieraan Personally I think the dept that controls the sale and production of petroleum fuels is really important. I do however disagree with a large aggressive defense dept. And no I do not support 'state dept's controlling the manufacture and refining of petrol/gas etc. It would make 'state boarder' crossing a little nasty.
franks2732 1 month ago
@itachi705 it's nothing but a throw away line with no depth or substance. It means shit
franks2732 1 month ago
@franks2732 You may want to look into China maybe a better place for you.
Kraogg85 1 month ago
Rachel Maddow: "He said this. He said that. I'm the journalist, but I decided not to investigate it. Gossip is much more fun."
ajpecanic 1 month ago
lol
Okay, here is where some "investigative journalism" would produce results such as IP searches, web caches and the like, possibly leaving a trail of evidence right too the original poster...
Oh nevermind, MSNBC has no such resources...
chocomalk 1 month ago
Things like this don't just happen in campaigns, Rachel.
rockhuddy 1 month ago
Nobody cares about Huntsman. Then "NHLiberty4Paul" makes Huntsman look like a humanitarian, adopting all those sweet little foreign kids like Brangelina, and a presidential guy with experience. It has to be the Huntsman campaign because, well, he doesn't have any supporters that would do it for him. And really, since when did some anonymous youtube video matter in a presidential campaign? You know how many videos tie Obama to Islam and Hitler? Should we do a segment on those?
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
That's it??
Zakdayak 1 month ago
PsyOP against PAUL
Intervene 1 month ago
The video criticizes Huntsman for being "weak on China"....what Ron Paul supporter talks like that? Really?
KagarBeardtooth 1 month ago
this is wayy to obvious, it IS from huntsman campaign, why? bc, for one, everyone CLAIMS that ron paul is racist, so they purposely used to show the people that paul is attacking huntsman for adopting his kids. trying to convince everyone that paul is racist. wow....sad. sorry huntsman but you are figured out!!!!!
rickiex 1 month ago
Thats like cutting off your hand and saying it was your spouse and then you sue him deforce him and take all of his money. sure you lost a hand but you gain so much.
TonPappa 1 month ago
Actually Rachell the Paul campaign did'nt have to investigate the info was there for the world to see and I saw youtube and websites talking about before Paul even knew about the ad
ericadamrice 1 month ago
Nice call Moxy!
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Unfortunately I've think you've placed a little too much faith in Olbermann as an honest human being and I don't think it's likely that he'll apologize for his false messages of hate.
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Hope I'm wrong.
schulwitz 1 month ago
Of course Huntsman's campaign was behind this. How do I know?
THEY WON'T STFU ABOUT IT
Ron Paul 2012
justatrey 1 month ago
Might be believable if republican voters were offended by racism, but we all know that isn't the case.
nultdog 1 month ago
personal false flag operation
LANDSHARK7130 1 month ago
The poster of the video was no Paul supporter, since the video only makes Paul look bad. A true Paul supporter would know the mainstream media would only use the ad to demagogue Paul himself. And, why have they yet to take the ad down? Why was it first referred to Jon2012? This is clearly the doings of a desperate campaign. Hunstman has staked his whole campaign on New Hampshire, and has barely gotten any traction. If he doesn't get at least 2nd, he's done. That's why this ad appeared now.
Alan1029Smith 1 month ago 21
@Alan1029Smith Ah, a TRUE(TM) Paul supporter, huh? Just like no TRUE(TM) Scottsman would be a sex maniac. (Look up "No true Scottsman" on Wikipedia if you don't get it.) While you can bask in the glory of the up votes you are getting, realize that using fallacious arguments also turns off people like me and away from Ron Paul.
TheMidwestAtheist 1 month ago
Busted MOFO
manniman82 1 month ago
Check this out h t t p : / / o r i n j e . c o m / t h r e a d s / 4 3 0 4 1 6 - T h e - p a u l b o t s - a r e - g o i n g - c r a z y - w i t h - o u r - v i d e o Remove the spaces and type into your browser, OUTRIGHT ADMISSION on Orinje that the video was created by the Huntsman campaign. RON PAUL 2012
armyofheaven777 1 month ago
@armyofheaven777 Yes, Huntsman himself posts on Orinje. You idiot.
snipzor 1 month ago
@snipzor - Whats wrong, you cant read ? ; )
armyofheaven777 1 month ago
@armyofheaven777 hahaha shit ur right!
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That video was suspicious from the moment I saw it It would be interesting to find out if those personal photos and video of Huntsman speaking Chinese were EVER on the internet BEFORE the attack video was made
Why would anyone make an attack ad against Huntsman in the first place he was so far back people didn't even know he existed?
Within hours it made MSM and a big up roar Kissinger endorsed Huntsman guess he has insider blessings now. Wow, dirty tricks question everything
Quiltingsando 1 month ago
Karl Rove used a similar tactic in 1996. He had flyers made up viciously attacking his own client (Harold See) and his family. They were distributed in the middle of the night- left in peoples front yards like newspapers. People assumed the opponent (Ken Ingram) did it and held it against him. Rove's client won. I believe someone in NYC pulled this some years ago also.
RonValli 1 month ago 2
It's possible that Jon Huntsman is exploiting his kids and invoking the racist card. It would then look absolutely terrible for him.
seinfan9 1 month ago
The ad is clearly a ploy to make sure Huntman's surge comes at the expense of Paul and not Romney. The media's pushing for a 2nd place finish for Huntsman in New Hampshire, just as they pushed for a 2nd place finish for Santorum in Iowa. Not only do they not want Paul to win, they don't want him to place anywhere near the top. Prior to the Iowa caucuses, Ron Paul was in contention to win, until one outlying poll showed Santorum with 15%. The media ran with it and basically engineered his surge.
Alan1029Smith 1 month ago 40
It's pretty obvious Huntsmans daughters or someone inside his campaign made that tube.
November2025 1 month ago
Although I am a Ron Paul supporter I don't trust a word Rachel Maddow has to say. Fuck Maddow and fuck Huntsman as well.
Haaraack 1 month ago
that video is stupid, media tried to make some deal about it... of course it was Huntsman's he made the video noticeable to the press. bad move... anyway... that's nothing to do with Ron Paul's message let's keep focusing on the important issues... Ron Paul 2012!
strokedude 1 month ago
My prime suspect would be Karl Rove. It's pretty obvious that the purpose of the ad is to damage Ron Paul, not to damage Jon Huntsman.
mldnathai 1 month ago
"in fact it was so gross" it was as gross as Rachel Maddow and his adams apple.
YouAreOneOfUs 1 month ago
If it's really his guys were the one who did it then that would be the most disgusting thing of this election so far!
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Hehe. This is THE most brutally tactical and aggressive campaign we've seen in a long time. Certainly the worst I can remember but I am only 30.
butcherGEIN 1 month ago
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butcherGEIN 1 month ago
And now Keith Olbermann needs to apologize as commanded by his Master Moxy!
Epifrin 1 month ago
You know what this tells me? Get money the fuck outta politics.
biggydx 1 month ago
Obama's man
InCMPunkWeTrust 1 month ago
Most Ron Paul supporters are not racists. Most Ron Paul supporters are technically savvy. How such a shitty and tasteless video could come from a Paul supporter is mind boggling. However, if you look up such channels as sXeCanadianBoy or TheHomelandDefender, troll videos against RP are pretty much the exact same formula as what was found in the "manchurian" video. If it didn't come from the campaign, if its anonymous, then use a little discretion.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth from mockthedummy's1 ron paul puppet "We're not racist son, we're just number 1 amongst racist!"
alucardthealchemist 1 month ago
it was made by his daughters. The video was first ever linked from Twitter and the twitter account had connections with John Huntsman and John2012girls
sacradelightproducts 1 month ago
Anyone notice that these are old family videos. Where would someone find these?
rpggyr 1 month ago 51
@rpggyr Google
YOURINQUIRER 1 month ago