Black Mobile and Black New Orleans are the same people; we are related. If you notice, it is pronounced MO-BEEL not Mobile (like a cell phone). It is all French. If you notice the guy on the video stated that he was from Toulminville. Toulminville is a district of Mobile that I was born in. News Flash!!! Ville is French for city, town or village. Mobile and New Orleans have the exact same origin, the old French Louisiana, so stop hating on your cousin!!! PEACE!!!!
To campbellde, I've always said, N.O. and Mobile are like two kids separated at birth and raised in different locales. Mardi gras, street names, architecture etc. are "basically" the same. There's SOME cultural differences though such as; N.O. zydeco and secondline music and parades, (any given sunday afternoon), local Creole and Cajun cooking, M.G. indians, N.O. slang and patois, unique funeral processions ( youtube New Orleans funerals). Check out "all the whips and girls come out" video.
New Orleans and Alabama do have cultures that are alike but that doesn't mean that their the same!
Dallas has Mardi gras, so does Miami, Brazil, Houston, and Phoenix but there not "the same" as New Orleans.
And New Orleans did not "steal" Mardi Gras from Alabama since the citizens of New Orleans and the mayor had put the money to have their OWN Mardi Gras.
I have to set the record straight. I am brother, born and raised in Mobile. Mobile was founded in 1702 by Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne, Sieur de Bienville, French governor of Louisiana and New Orleans was founded in 1718 by Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne, Sieur de Bienville, French governor of Louisiana.
While this claim is an article of faith among Mobile natives, we can't find that the city makes this claim. Neither does New Orleans. Both cities tap dance around the issue, because in fact, both have bragging rights. In fact, the founding fathers of modern Mardi Gras traditions did not see it as a competition between Mobile and New Orleans, but rather as a cooperative effort between buddies.
Both cities have gone through periods when Mardi Gras almost died out, and each has been instrumental in exporting traditions to the other and keeping the fire going.
Neither New Orleans nor Mobile started Mardi Gras, of course.
Carnival/Mardi Gras is a European import, celebrated long before Columbus was a gleam in his Daddy's eye. In fact, long before it was Christianized, it was a pagan bacchanalia of drinking and debauchery . . .
which hasn't changed much. Much of Catholic - or formerly Catholic - Europe celebrates Carnival under one name or another, again as a season of partying before Lent, as do many of its former colonies. The early explorers and settlers of both New Orleans and Mobile arrived with a tradition of Mardi Gras and adapted the tradition to their new home.
Historically the first recorded celebration of Mardi Gras in what is now the United States occurred in 1699, on a Mississippi River island just downstream from modern New Orleans. The French explorer who threw the party named the place Mardi Gras Island.
He then moved upriver and staked out the site for modern New Orleans. Mobile skeptics say this celebration is disqualified since the city of New Orleans didn't exist, except in the explorer's dreams, but that sounds like sour grapes to us. Mobile's first recorded celebration was in 1704.
In both areas, celebrations took place to varying extents from the very beginning of settlement, picking up additional traditions as new waves of immigrants arrived. Partying in New Orleans, in fact, was at times out of control, which eventually brought crackdowns from the Spanish and new American governments, especially focusing on masking and bawdy street partying.
This brought the public celebration of Mardi Gras in New Orleans to a sputter in the early 19th Century. Slowly the Creoles won back permission to expand Mardi Gras celebrations, until masking and street celebrations were again legalized. Mobile stepped into the picture in 1857, when members of the Cowbellian de Rakin Society helped blueblood New Orleans pals set up the Mystic Krewe of Comus, the pioneering parading krewe in the Crescent City.
This launched an explosion of new Mardi Gras traditions.
What Mobile can accurately claim is a nearly 300-year tradition of organized Mardi Gras celebrations, leadership in the creation of some modern Mardi Gras traditions, and exporting at least one of the most important traditions to New Orleans - the parading krewe.
By the way, you may be interested to know that Gulfport, Mississippi, also claims to have been the site of the first American Mardi Gras. If you take the famous Ship Island excursion ride, you'll find an article from a local newspaper on the wall that claims that Ship Island was the REAL Mardi Gras Island referred to by the explorer.
The celebration of Mardi Gras was brought to Louisiana by early French settlers. The first record of the holiday being celebrated in Louisiana was at the mouth of the Mississippi River in what is now lower Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, on March 3, 1699. Iberville, Bienville, and their men celebrated it as part of an observance of Catholic practice.
The starting date of festivities in New Orleans is unknown. An account from 1743 notes that the custom of Carnival balls was already established. Processions and wearing of masks in the streets on Mardi Gras took place.
They were sometimes prohibited by law, and were quickly renewed whenever such restrictions were lifted or enforcement waned. In 1833 Bernard Xavier de Marigny de Mandeville, a rich plantation owner of French descent, raised money to fund an official Mardi Gras celebration.
So, therefore Mardi Gras first started in New Orleans.
@nola305 all dat shit you name is actually the whole southern food style. Southern food have that soul food from slavery and french food. We as all black have our own food its "soul food" New orleans and mobile have the same culture. It is more "commercial" in new orleas then mobile. What yall got in new orleans, yall have more of french culture in ya'll city.
@jazziejay0918 No hatin' but New Orleans cusine is NOT the whole "southern food style" as you put it but DISTINCLY Louisana in particular, and New Orleans in general. The food used is "southern", but the recipes are culturally southern and southeastern (Cajun country) Louisiana and New Orleans with the biggest reputation. You can't argue with FACTS, try google-ing sometimes, it's a handy tool of reference.
The first American Mardi Gras was celebrated near modern-day New Orleans on March 3, 1699. It wasn't until the mid-1800s did official parade organizations start to form with the Mystick Krewe of Comus in 1856 and the Krewe of Rex in 1872. The tradition is still carried on in New Orleans with many other krewes represented on floats in a myriad of parades.
My hometown be goin HAM my school Hattiesburg High marched in this parade!!!!!!!
hhscolorguardboi601 1 year ago
Black Mobile and Black New Orleans are the same people; we are related. If you notice, it is pronounced MO-BEEL not Mobile (like a cell phone). It is all French. If you notice the guy on the video stated that he was from Toulminville. Toulminville is a district of Mobile that I was born in. News Flash!!! Ville is French for city, town or village. Mobile and New Orleans have the exact same origin, the old French Louisiana, so stop hating on your cousin!!! PEACE!!!!
campbellde 2 years ago
To campbellde, I've always said, N.O. and Mobile are like two kids separated at birth and raised in different locales. Mardi gras, street names, architecture etc. are "basically" the same. There's SOME cultural differences though such as; N.O. zydeco and secondline music and parades, (any given sunday afternoon), local Creole and Cajun cooking, M.G. indians, N.O. slang and patois, unique funeral processions ( youtube New Orleans funerals). Check out "all the whips and girls come out" video.
nola305 2 years ago
@campbellde
Man get out of here!
New Orleans and Alabama do have cultures that are alike but that doesn't mean that their the same!
Dallas has Mardi gras, so does Miami, Brazil, Houston, and Phoenix but there not "the same" as New Orleans.
And New Orleans did not "steal" Mardi Gras from Alabama since the citizens of New Orleans and the mayor had put the money to have their OWN Mardi Gras.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
I have to set the record straight. I am brother, born and raised in Mobile. Mobile was founded in 1702 by Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne, Sieur de Bienville, French governor of Louisiana and New Orleans was founded in 1718 by Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne, Sieur de Bienville, French governor of Louisiana.
campbellde 2 years ago
@campbellde
While this claim is an article of faith among Mobile natives, we can't find that the city makes this claim. Neither does New Orleans. Both cities tap dance around the issue, because in fact, both have bragging rights. In fact, the founding fathers of modern Mardi Gras traditions did not see it as a competition between Mobile and New Orleans, but rather as a cooperative effort between buddies.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
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Both cities have gone through periods when Mardi Gras almost died out, and each has been instrumental in exporting traditions to the other and keeping the fire going.
Neither New Orleans nor Mobile started Mardi Gras, of course.
Carnival/Mardi Gras is a European import, celebrated long before Columbus was a gleam in his Daddy's eye. In fact, long before it was Christianized, it was a pagan bacchanalia of drinking and debauchery . . .
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
Cont...
which hasn't changed much. Much of Catholic - or formerly Catholic - Europe celebrates Carnival under one name or another, again as a season of partying before Lent, as do many of its former colonies. The early explorers and settlers of both New Orleans and Mobile arrived with a tradition of Mardi Gras and adapted the tradition to their new home.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
Cont...
Historically the first recorded celebration of Mardi Gras in what is now the United States occurred in 1699, on a Mississippi River island just downstream from modern New Orleans. The French explorer who threw the party named the place Mardi Gras Island.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
Cont..
He then moved upriver and staked out the site for modern New Orleans. Mobile skeptics say this celebration is disqualified since the city of New Orleans didn't exist, except in the explorer's dreams, but that sounds like sour grapes to us. Mobile's first recorded celebration was in 1704.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
Cont...
In both areas, celebrations took place to varying extents from the very beginning of settlement, picking up additional traditions as new waves of immigrants arrived. Partying in New Orleans, in fact, was at times out of control, which eventually brought crackdowns from the Spanish and new American governments, especially focusing on masking and bawdy street partying.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
Cont..
This brought the public celebration of Mardi Gras in New Orleans to a sputter in the early 19th Century. Slowly the Creoles won back permission to expand Mardi Gras celebrations, until masking and street celebrations were again legalized. Mobile stepped into the picture in 1857, when members of the Cowbellian de Rakin Society helped blueblood New Orleans pals set up the Mystic Krewe of Comus, the pioneering parading krewe in the Crescent City.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
Cont...
This launched an explosion of new Mardi Gras traditions.
What Mobile can accurately claim is a nearly 300-year tradition of organized Mardi Gras celebrations, leadership in the creation of some modern Mardi Gras traditions, and exporting at least one of the most important traditions to New Orleans - the parading krewe.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
By the way, you may be interested to know that Gulfport, Mississippi, also claims to have been the site of the first American Mardi Gras. If you take the famous Ship Island excursion ride, you'll find an article from a local newspaper on the wall that claims that Ship Island was the REAL Mardi Gras Island referred to by the explorer.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
The celebration of Mardi Gras was brought to Louisiana by early French settlers. The first record of the holiday being celebrated in Louisiana was at the mouth of the Mississippi River in what is now lower Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, on March 3, 1699. Iberville, Bienville, and their men celebrated it as part of an observance of Catholic practice.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
Cont...
The starting date of festivities in New Orleans is unknown. An account from 1743 notes that the custom of Carnival balls was already established. Processions and wearing of masks in the streets on Mardi Gras took place.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@campbellde
Cont..
They were sometimes prohibited by law, and were quickly renewed whenever such restrictions were lifted or enforcement waned. In 1833 Bernard Xavier de Marigny de Mandeville, a rich plantation owner of French descent, raised money to fund an official Mardi Gras celebration.
So, therefore Mardi Gras first started in New Orleans.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
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nola305 2 years ago
@nola305 all dat shit you name is actually the whole southern food style. Southern food have that soul food from slavery and french food. We as all black have our own food its "soul food" New orleans and mobile have the same culture. It is more "commercial" in new orleas then mobile. What yall got in new orleans, yall have more of french culture in ya'll city.
jazziejay0918 1 year ago
@jazziejay0918 No hatin' but New Orleans cusine is NOT the whole "southern food style" as you put it but DISTINCLY Louisana in particular, and New Orleans in general. The food used is "southern", but the recipes are culturally southern and southeastern (Cajun country) Louisiana and New Orleans with the biggest reputation. You can't argue with FACTS, try google-ing sometimes, it's a handy tool of reference.
nola305 1 year ago
@jazziejay0918
Mardi Gras DID NOT start in Mobile, Alabama!
The first American Mardi Gras was celebrated near modern-day New Orleans on March 3, 1699. It wasn't until the mid-1800s did official parade organizations start to form with the Mystick Krewe of Comus in 1856 and the Krewe of Rex in 1872. The tradition is still carried on in New Orleans with many other krewes represented on floats in a myriad of parades.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@jazziejay0918
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The official colors of Mardi Gras are purple, green and gold (representing justice, faith and power).
blackandgold51 1 year ago
nice comment
Str8mexicaliUSA 2 years ago
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nola305 2 years ago
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nola305 2 years ago
that band name was carver high school in birmingham
jeremyrtldg 2 years ago