Don't think of an elephant. Tax "relief" !!! Give me a break. Relief for whom? The multi-millionaires in their gated communities surrounded by guard dogs afraid of their gardeners and housekeepes?
(Of course, the conservatives claim that don't have power. They always play the victim. Blame media, protesters, etc. )
Funny he mentions taking over the media, cause that is something that Liberals always have held a stranglehold on. So they have done what he is accusing conservatives of trying to do. Oh and Liberals don't need more loaded words look at all of them that flash in that intermediate scene. This guy is not a genius he is just a stooge.
This guy is an absolute genius, if you haven't read his book "Don't Think of an Elephant" and you care at all about progressive politics, you MUST read it.
Another problem is when Democrats move one step to the right to look more centered, the Republicans jump two steps right, then use re-framing, exaggerated labeling, and outright lying to make Dems look too far left. This is because Republicans get emboldened by seeing how well manipulation works, so they double or triple their next attempt to make Dems look too far to the left in order to keep them moving right.
What if when Repubs call Dems socialist, Dems call Repubs racist fascist Nazis?
Both parties are "framing" the debates, thus neither will never gain real progress because our socio-economic system is obsolete and corrupt. Even in this video the "framing" of your perceptions advocates fighting for a buzz word, which is redundant
The people need to unite & recognize this system throws crumbs to both dems and repubs while a tiny % control.
Thezeitgeistmovement (dot) com Go to the Q and A and allow yourself to realize the way to true progress..the world we ALL deserve.
Using Lakoff's analysis, the word "propaganda" invokes visions of Hitler, Goebbels, and Nazi Germany. Using the word "propaganda" invokes the vision of dictators, oppressors. Not a good "picture frame", eh!? We need a better word that will frame the idea of refuting what the right wing is saying without including the word "not" in the word. Remember - Nixon said he wasn't a crook. Which immediately "framed" him as a crook.
You Progressive Democrats can speak in Greek, Latin, or any other language you want. I don't know one educated person in California that is going to vote for another Democrat after you assholes jammed though a piece of shit health bill that is going to bankrupt the Country against the will of the people. All these Progressive want is big Government and big taxes. The Government can't even run a one car parade let alone USPO, Amtrack, Medicare, Medicaid, their all bankrupt! Throw these bums out!
Screw you assholes! you will never take this country back! you never had it in the first place. It is ours! We know what you are. We know who you are! If you try to hustle us out of our country we will settle it in the streets! You will not be safe in your own home or place of buisness! We do not allow take overs of our government! We are the last line of defense of our sacred document and if you think you will take it from us you are mistaken. We dont care about being politically correct.
That's a very interesting point, sir. I assume that by sacred document you mean the Constitution. Well, as far as I know the sacred document is against the the kind of terror that you're threatening to use. And by the way: Since Barack Obama won the election, it seems to me that progressives were not mistaken after all. They actually did frame the debate, claimed the sacred document, and won.
There should be a much larger exemption for living expenses and only money in excess of that should be taxed. Noone earning under between 40-50k should pay any taxes at all because they need it all to live. Only spending money should be taxed.
We need wealth redistribution now, Raise taxes on those evil rich bastards! Never mind that they carry the majority of the tax burden. Its just not fair!!Workers of the world unite! Obama for Secretary General!
Most corporations don't pay any taxes. I would probably count them as the rich! There is an article at ABC new called: "Most Companies in US Avoid Federal Income Taxes". Do a search on it. Don't believe everything rich people tell you. And certainly don't believe Rush Limbaugh, he lies all the time everyday.
Class warfare will destroy this Nation,. The liberals keep it up,, blah blah . Of course they don't pay income taxes,, HELLO. They pay corporate taxes and the cost is passed to the consumer, do you live in a bubble?
The term "tax relief" is like a robber stealing your wallet and calling it "cash relief". The commander-in-thief says, "I'm just relieving you of the burden of this money so you won't have to decide how to spend it."
I love Lakoff's analysis. Cognitive scientists are finally rediscovering what Carl Jung had discovered 100 years ago. The problem I have with Lakoff is he doesn't used the word propaganda. Conservatives succeed by using propaganda. You can't just say Democrats have to do better marketing, because the whole point of marketing is the method of propaganda that is intended to prevent thinking beyond slogans. If Democrats just present better slogans then they are buying into the conservative frame.
Just as virtually all other progressives do, Mr. Lakoff continously refers to RADICA RIGHT REACTIONARIES as "Conservatives." They are not conservative and it is time for us to Frame them with that reality.
He makes a great point here, that if you argue using the other person's language, you've already lost the argument. If you say your oponent is 'pro-life' then you must be 'anti-life.' There are so many loaded terms: 'affirmative action' versus 'quotas' is another one, or 'suicide bomber' versus 'assassin' or 'territories' versus 'Israel.' I like the part where he says that putting the word 'not' in front doesn't negate the power of the words on the other side.
Don't think of an elephant. Tax "relief" !!! Give me a break. Relief for whom? The multi-millionaires in their gated communities surrounded by guard dogs afraid of their gardeners and housekeepes?
(Of course, the conservatives claim that don't have power. They always play the victim. Blame media, protesters, etc. )
Thanks George - this is excellent.
humanbeing524 2 months ago
Funny he mentions taking over the media, cause that is something that Liberals always have held a stranglehold on. So they have done what he is accusing conservatives of trying to do. Oh and Liberals don't need more loaded words look at all of them that flash in that intermediate scene. This guy is not a genius he is just a stooge.
Sjoc78 8 months ago
This guy is an absolute genius, if you haven't read his book "Don't Think of an Elephant" and you care at all about progressive politics, you MUST read it.
piebaldify 9 months ago
Another problem is when Democrats move one step to the right to look more centered, the Republicans jump two steps right, then use re-framing, exaggerated labeling, and outright lying to make Dems look too far left. This is because Republicans get emboldened by seeing how well manipulation works, so they double or triple their next attempt to make Dems look too far to the left in order to keep them moving right.
What if when Repubs call Dems socialist, Dems call Repubs racist fascist Nazis?
morality101 1 year ago
Both parties are "framing" the debates, thus neither will never gain real progress because our socio-economic system is obsolete and corrupt. Even in this video the "framing" of your perceptions advocates fighting for a buzz word, which is redundant
The people need to unite & recognize this system throws crumbs to both dems and repubs while a tiny % control.
Thezeitgeistmovement (dot) com Go to the Q and A and allow yourself to realize the way to true progress..the world we ALL deserve.
blaziermissy 1 year ago
Using Lakoff's analysis, the word "propaganda" invokes visions of Hitler, Goebbels, and Nazi Germany. Using the word "propaganda" invokes the vision of dictators, oppressors. Not a good "picture frame", eh!? We need a better word that will frame the idea of refuting what the right wing is saying without including the word "not" in the word. Remember - Nixon said he wasn't a crook. Which immediately "framed" him as a crook.
How about "Here's the truth - ..."
railwaybob1886 1 year ago
You Progressive Democrats can speak in Greek, Latin, or any other language you want. I don't know one educated person in California that is going to vote for another Democrat after you assholes jammed though a piece of shit health bill that is going to bankrupt the Country against the will of the people. All these Progressive want is big Government and big taxes. The Government can't even run a one car parade let alone USPO, Amtrack, Medicare, Medicaid, their all bankrupt! Throw these bums out!
ucannotescape 1 year ago
@ucannotescape The Gov seems to run the Army's health care just fine.
mike23984 1 year ago
Barak Obama's Health Care Attempt.... Can it improve american voters? US opinion's are important!! Goto my youtube profile page and learn how
Wilone328 1 year ago
Democrats and progressives will win if they stop going bow-legged before the zipper of corporate power and corrupt unions.
Stop listening to propagandists like this dude and realize you either are an enemy of the state and centralized power, or you're not.
You either believe in freedom, or you believe in the centralization of power.
powereddrive 2 years ago
Screw you assholes! you will never take this country back! you never had it in the first place. It is ours! We know what you are. We know who you are! If you try to hustle us out of our country we will settle it in the streets! You will not be safe in your own home or place of buisness! We do not allow take overs of our government! We are the last line of defense of our sacred document and if you think you will take it from us you are mistaken. We dont care about being politically correct.
ResistanceOfAmerica 2 years ago
That's a very interesting point, sir. I assume that by sacred document you mean the Constitution. Well, as far as I know the sacred document is against the the kind of terror that you're threatening to use. And by the way: Since Barack Obama won the election, it seems to me that progressives were not mistaken after all. They actually did frame the debate, claimed the sacred document, and won.
That really sucks, huh...
GriseCharles 2 years ago
Lakoff is brilliant. His book "Moral Politics" opened my eyes to a whole new world of understanding. Thanks mangoliazoom for posting this video.
djfonso 2 years ago
There should be a much larger exemption for living expenses and only money in excess of that should be taxed. Noone earning under between 40-50k should pay any taxes at all because they need it all to live. Only spending money should be taxed.
badmuffy 3 years ago
We need wealth redistribution now, Raise taxes on those evil rich bastards! Never mind that they carry the majority of the tax burden. Its just not fair!!Workers of the world unite! Obama for Secretary General!
bohemond4 3 years ago
Most corporations don't pay any taxes. I would probably count them as the rich! There is an article at ABC new called: "Most Companies in US Avoid Federal Income Taxes". Do a search on it. Don't believe everything rich people tell you. And certainly don't believe Rush Limbaugh, he lies all the time everyday.
shellunit 3 years ago 4
Class warfare will destroy this Nation,. The liberals keep it up,, blah blah . Of course they don't pay income taxes,, HELLO. They pay corporate taxes and the cost is passed to the consumer, do you live in a bubble?
bohemond4 3 years ago
The term "tax relief" is like a robber stealing your wallet and calling it "cash relief". The commander-in-thief says, "I'm just relieving you of the burden of this money so you won't have to decide how to spend it."
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
I love Lakoff's analysis. Cognitive scientists are finally rediscovering what Carl Jung had discovered 100 years ago. The problem I have with Lakoff is he doesn't used the word propaganda. Conservatives succeed by using propaganda. You can't just say Democrats have to do better marketing, because the whole point of marketing is the method of propaganda that is intended to prevent thinking beyond slogans. If Democrats just present better slogans then they are buying into the conservative frame.
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
Just as virtually all other progressives do, Mr. Lakoff continously refers to RADICA RIGHT REACTIONARIES as "Conservatives." They are not conservative and it is time for us to Frame them with that reality.
Jacques Werth
JacquesWerth 3 years ago
He makes a great point here, that if you argue using the other person's language, you've already lost the argument. If you say your oponent is 'pro-life' then you must be 'anti-life.' There are so many loaded terms: 'affirmative action' versus 'quotas' is another one, or 'suicide bomber' versus 'assassin' or 'territories' versus 'Israel.' I like the part where he says that putting the word 'not' in front doesn't negate the power of the words on the other side.
Werthwhile 3 years ago
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powereddrive 2 years ago
Thank you
We need to unite now in this 2008 Democratic Election.
For the Good of Middle Class America !!!
Tax relief for the wealthy ??? Why ??? We in the Middle Class need that Tax Relief now!
4nola27 3 years ago
tax relief is a loaded word.
relief means there is burden
therefore those who want to raise them are oppressors.
john kerry fell into this trap, using all the loaded words.
hillary clinton is now too, just as her husband did, even though the republican party was beginning to get its language back into politics.
the republican party is a honed operation now, but you can only lie for so long until you are caught.
go obama!
Tuppington 3 years ago 4