Romanian Orthodox Byzantine Chant - The Stichera of Pascha

[jasonbently2002]

YOU HOLD OUR BIBLE INFALLIBLE, THAT MEANS OUR CHURCH MUST BE INFALLIBLE TO HAVE ASSEMBLED IT AND THAT WE UPHOLD THE SCRIPTURAL CRITERION OF TRUTH which CLEARLY ESTABLISHES BY YOUR REASONING THAT WE ALONE ARE THE TRUE CHURCH. AND NOT AN HERETICAL DENOMINATION OF MEN: that's you and your demoniac sect. JESUS CHRIST FOUNDED OUR CHURCH AND WE DATE BACK TO THE HOLY APOSTLES AND THEY GAVE US OUR "rituals" FOR THEY ARE DIVINELY ORDAINED.

[jasonbently2002]

THE FACT YOU CALL THE SCRIPTURE WE DECLARED CANONICAL IN THE FOURTH CENTURY AND ASSEMBLED IN THE HOLY TRADITION "INFALLIBLE" LOGICALLY ADMITS THAT OUR CHURCH IS INFALLIBLE,THAT WE KNOW SCRIPTURE AND THAT YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CHURCH USING OUR SCRIPTURES IN A MANNER YOU MAKE YOU UP OUTSIDE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.LASTLY, IF YOU AREN'T PART OF THE CHURCH FOUNDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT you aren't part of the CHURCH but a sect of fallible men abusing OUR infallible Scriptures which you don't know.

[jasonbently2002]

THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IS NOT A FACTION BUT THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC FOUNDED BY CHRIST ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST, cf. CHRIST HIMSELF SAYS IN SCRIPTURE, I WILL FOUND MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT. HE doesn't say "churches." Since that CHURCH IS ONE TO THIS DAY IN THE HOLY SPIRIT guided by HIM, how can your heretical sect of men even compare to the TRUTH GIVEN US BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS CHURCH?! HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE EQUAL TO THE CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY THE HOLY TRINITY?!

[hartmanalen]

Hristos a Inviat !!!

[DanieruShidebuteru]

All in all, thank's for your upload! If you have more, please do share!! God bless!!

[DanieruShidebuteru]

Greetings in Christ!

Is this song sung in Romanian or Greek? Can you confirm this in your video? I have also compiled a long list of Christian hymns from all over the world, you can check my profile. I do want to make sure if those songs are sung in Romanian as well for the sake of correctness in description. If it's not too much to ask, are they in Romanian? I used to have a much bigger playlist but unfortunately a Youtuber who uploaded many videos have closed his account for unknown reason.

[VlachArtist]

@DanieruShidebuteru This is romanian. But the song is exactly the same to all orthodox churches of the Earth. I English: "Let God arise and let His enemies be scattered! A sacred Pascha today hath been shown unto us: a Pascha new and holy, a Pascha mystical, a Pascha all venerable, a Pascha that is Christ the Redeemer; a Pascha immaculate, a great Pascha; a Pascha of the faithful; a Pascha that hath opened the gates of Paradise unto us; a Pascha that doth sanctify all the faithful." etc.

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@VlachArtist

Thanks for that! By the way, I went to a Romanian Easter service at midnight in Christchurch, New Zealand. There is a small but sizeable Romanian community here in Christchurch. One day, I took a taxi to the airport and just by chance, the taxi driver is also an Orthodox priest who then left me his card. Quite some time after that, I contacted him and found when their Easter service is and thought I should come and see. It was quite an experience.

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@VlachArtist

Also, please pray for the Romanian community in Christchurch. Their church was extensively damaged from the recent earthquake in New Zealand. They are currently using one of the building lent to them by an Anglican church.

[VlachArtist]

@DanieruShidebuteru A little history is required here...

If you belong to the Church of England(or Anglican Church), your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to re-marry.

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If you are Orthodox Christian, your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It has not changed since that time. Our church is now almost 2,000 years old.

orthodoxphotos*com/history.sht­ml

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@VlachArtist

Yes, I am aware of the history behind all branches of Christianity; every single branch is started by a person, either one of the Apostles or their disciples. I was mentioning the fact that the Romanian Orthodox church in Christchurch, New Zealand, had to use a building kindly lent to them by the Anglican church due to the recent earthquake extensively damaging their place of worship. And so that Orthodox brothers and sisters can pray for them in this time of trial. That is all.

[VlachArtist]

@DanieruShidebuteru

There are no "branches of Christianity". Christ created a single Church, the Orthodox Church and the apostoles were the first bishops who passed the Holy Grace unto other bishops and so on until today. Christian=Orthodox.

All the others changed the Orthodox (meaning True, not altered) Faith and as men created their own churches.

That's history my friend, Orthodoxy has not changed since the apostoles and the 7 Ecumenical Councils who defined the Orthodox Creed and Dogma

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@VlachArtist

In case you forget, the "church" is the people, not the institution. When Christ refers to the Church, He refers to a community of those who believed in Him and thus united as the Body with Christ as the Head, not continuity of men-made institutions and an unbroken apostolic line.

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@VlachArtist

What and who is His Church? Those who accept his Death and Resurrection and the Bible as His authoritative Word. He said that when there's a group of us worshiping in His name, He'll be there. Those are the only requirements He prescribed. As a Lutheran, I am confident and convinced that I am part of the One Church, by virtue of faith alone; in Christ, in God's Word, not membership of a "correct" church.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru The CHURCH IS THAT BODY FOUNDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST AND SHEPHERDED BY THE HOLY APOSTLES AND THEIR SUCCESSORS IN THE HOLY SPIRIT! IF YOU HAVE NO LINEAGE FROM THEM AND YOU LACK THE TRUTH BUT BELIEVE AND TEACH ERROR, YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH. THAT CHURCH IS THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH AND NO OTHER!

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@jasonbently2002

The Holy Spirit came into the disciples not by virtue of their family lineage but by their faith; they had nothing that made them deserve the Holy Spirit, not their deeds, not their family lineage, nothing. For anyone to then require such criteria is not a tradition founded on biblical teachings. Paul said this himself when other believers came and told him of other people who are not from their "kind" (meaning, from the apostles) who preached the Gospel.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru The Holy Apostles laid hands on their disciples and appointed them to PASS ON THE FAITH AND BIND AND LOOSE and to HOLD FAST TO THE TRADITIONS WHICH THEY HAD RECEIVED from them. Since you don't have any part of that, YOU DON'T HAVE THE APOSTOLIC OR BIBLICAL FAITH. YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH AND NEED TO ENTER IT TO BE PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST. IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS SENT BY CHRIST TO THE HOLY APOSTLES AND THOSE THERE ASSEMBLED AND TO NO ONE ELSE! GOT IT?! THUS OTHERS WHO HAD BEEN FOLLOWERS HAD TO RECEIVE THE SPIRIT FROM THEM AFTERWARDS, cf. ACTs. YOU, HOWEVER, HAVE NO LINK TO THEM. WE DO. SO HOW CAN YOU EVEN ARGUE THAT THEY TAUGHT US WRONG WHEN YOU USE THE SCRIPTURES THEY GAVE US TELLING US NOT TO THROW OUR PEARLS TO SWINE, IE HERETICS LIKE YOU>!

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@jasonbently2002

Paul said that it doesn't matter if the Gospel is preached truthfully. If it doesn't matter to him then, why does it matter so much to you now? Don't you remember what Jesus said, that if 3 people called on His name in a fellowship that He will be there with you? I would believe Paul (and Jesus) over any other Christian teachers who came after him, even if he is The Pope or even the Holy Patriarch himself. But I do have respect for Catholics and Orthodox as fellow Christians.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru ST PAUL SAID NO SUCH THING. THAT IS A LIE AND A BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. ST PAUL WRITES, "TEST THE SPIRITS WHETHER THEY BE OF GOD AND IF EVEN AN ANGEL PREACH TO YOU ANOTHER CHRIST, REJECT IT." SEE YOU WRITING THAT SHOWS YOUR DOCTRINE IS NOTHING BUT DEMONIA AND BLASPHEMY. You need an exorcist.

[DanieruShidebuteru]

By that very definition, the church is a gathering of people who confessed their sins and put their faith in Jesus. It's not the building, it's not the organisational body, it most definitely is not about legitimacy of continuation from the so-called apostolic lineage, nor any other man-made criteria you can think of. It's about Christ and the Bible truthfully taught, and that is all you need.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru NO ACCORDING TO ST PAUL THE CHURCH ARE THOSE WHO ARE BAPTIZED AND SHARE ONE EUCHARIST AND THE SACRAMENTS IN CHRIST's ONE BODY. YOU DON'T. WE RECEIVED OUR FAITH FROM ST PAUL. HIS EPISTLES WERE ADDRESSED DIRECTLY TO OUR CHURCHES. So we know first hand what he wrote.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru NO WHO IS THE CHURCH ARE THOSE WHO ARE LINKED TO THE OUTPOURING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH THE HOLY APOSTLES AT PENTECOST. THE ORTHODOX ALONE. YOU AREN'T. WHEN DID YOU SECT ORIGINATE? 1977? OK, WE WERE OVER 1900 YEARS AHEAD OF YOU AND RECEIVED OUR FAITH AND OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH THE HOLY APOSTLES. YOU DIDN'T. SO WHY WOULD ANYONE BELIEVE YOUR STUPIDITY?! You or the HOLY SPIRIT AND HIS CHURCH?! REALLY.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru THE CHURCH IS THE BODY OF CHRIST OF THOSE PEOPLE REBORN IN HIM THROUGH HER MYSTERY OF BAPTISM WHOSE GRACE HAS BEEN PASSED ON TO THE HOLY APOSTLES TO THEIR SUCCESSORS. IF YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED BAPTISM FROM THEM, THEN YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED BAPTISM, but only engaged in theatrics and mocked the HOLY SPIRIT AND YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH.

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@jasonbently2002

I have only this verse in the Bible to remind people that it's the truth of the Word that sets you free, not WHO or WHERE you get it from: 1 Corinthians 1: 10-13.

There's another verse in the bible concerning this but I forgot where. It was when a bunch of disciples told Paul in a threatened tone regarding other people who baptised people in the name of Christ but who are not of their kind/group and Paul told them, frankly: What's the problem, if Jesus is truthfully preached?

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@jasonbently2002

I suggest you ponder on that. Don't get hung up in factions of men, or aligning with church bodies that are built by men. Be FOR Jesus! That's the faction that everybody should be in! The Catholics claimed apostolic succession, that does not make them free from error, far from it. You as an orthodox knew that. Why do you insist on others the very criteria you've proven yourself had NOTHING to do with it when it comes to the truthfulness of the gospel??

[DanieruShidebuteru]

Regarding the theatrics; hey, I'm not the one who goes to a church where the clergy dress up in weird robes, giving out incense, chanting in dead languages, in a building decorated in all kinds of sculpture and paintings!! You call Protestants theatrical? You could never be further from the truth!! XD

Just kidding, my friend. I do respect Orthodoxy and my Orthodox brothers and sisters. And I do appreciate your ceremonies. Our differences are not as wide and dividing as you make it out to be.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru You mean like the FIRST CHRISTIANS WHO PERFECTED THE RITUAL FOUND IN SCRIPTURE IN THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE?! In other words, you don't belong to CHRIST's CHURCH and are a member of a false religion?!

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@jasonbently2002

I kindly implore you to read the Bible and be a true follower of Jesus, not (only) a follower of a certain church denomination. Rituals don't save you (though I like them and that is what always attract me to Orthodoxy, but I know it's just rituals), not even membership of a "correct" church, Jesus does. And he'll only save you if you put your in faith in Him. That is the only thing He asks and the only thing you'll need. Bye now.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru You need to READ THE BOOK OF ACTS, THE EPISTLES AND THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT regarding "rituals" WHICH JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY APOSTLES IN THE HOLY SPIRIT HAVE PASSED DOWN TO US.IT IS YOU, DEMONIAC, WHO NEEDS TO READ THE BIBLE WHICH WE ASSEMBLED IN THE FOURTH CENTURY.WE ASSEMBLED THE CANON OF SCRIPTURE YOU BELIEVE TO BE INFALLIBLE IN THE FOURTH CENTURY IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.SINCE ONLY THE INFALLIBLE AND DIVINELY INSPIRED CAN DO SO, YOU ADMIT WE ARE THE CHURCH.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru Since you are ignorant of Scripture which clearly establishes WE ALONE ARE THE CHURCH and you are part of a CULT OF DEMONIAC MEN and blasphemers, yet you maintain the BIBLE WE ASSEMBLED IN THE FOURTH CENTURY IS INFALLIBLE by mere logic YOU ADMIT WE ARE NOT ONLY INFALLIBLE AND DIVINELY INSPIRED IN ESTABLISHING THE SCRIPTURE BUT THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT ABIDES WITH US AS THE CHURCH. LASTLY, that SCRIPTURE IS A PRODUCT OF "RITUAL" FOR SINCE MOSES IT IS PART OF OUR LITURGICAL WORSHIP

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru Thus if you are going to talk about our INFALLIBLE SCRIPTURE which we established ONLY INFALLIBLY AND IN THE HOLY SPIRIT and establish as the CHURCH WHICH GAVE YOU HERETICS THE BIBLE, it follows, logically, that if you truly hold to that standard, you would RESPECT the HOLY SPIRIT AND HIS CHURCH AND THE BIBLE AND ENTER THAT CHURCH TO TRULY WORSHIP GOD, for the Bible does not exist independent of CHRIST OR HIS CHURCH and did not even in Old Testament times.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru THE ONLY WAY THE BIBLE WE GAVE YOU CAN BE THE INFALLIBLE WORD OF GOD, SINCE WE ASSEMBLED IT IN THE FOURTH CENTURY, IS IF WE ARE THE INFALLIBLE CHURCH OF CHRIST GUIDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, for the fallible cannot produce infallible books LOGICALLY. THE SCRIPTURES WERE LITURGICAL FROM "our rituals." THUS TO SAVE YOUR SOUL AND TO BE CONSISTENT IN WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT THE BIBLE, YOU WOULD LOGICALLY HAVE TO ADMIT THAT ONLY CHRIST's CHURCH AND NOT YOUR SECT COULD PRODUCE IT. US!!!

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@VlachArtist

Even if the 7 ecumenical councils defines the "correct dogma" (which is what Orthodoxy really means, "believing correctly') then I see no problem either, for the Lutheran World Federation, in ecumenical dialogues with the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, has affirmed all of the first seven councils as ecumenical and authoritative.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru The LUTHERAN WORLD FEDERATION MAY BELIEVE (IT DOESN'T) WITH THE DEMONS WHAT THE TRUTH IS BUT TO RIGHTLY PRACTICE IT AND WORSHIP IT AND RECEIVE GRACE IT MUST DO SO BY ENTERING THE BODY OF CHRIST, THE ORTHODOX CHRUCH.

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@jasonbently2002

On your keyboard there is a button written "Caps Lock". Make sure it's disengaged. YOUR COMMENTS DO NOT BECOME MORE TRUTHFUL JUST BECAUSE YOU WRITE THEM IN CAPITALS (in case you didn't know). :D

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@VlachArtist

Personally though, I think those councils do not "define" anything but to affirm what already is;; everything we need to know had been "defined" in the Bible; the Old and the New Testament, the inspired Word of God. Remember my brother in Christ, it's the faith in Him that saves you, not belonging in the "correct" church, no matter how correct it may be, for God judges your heart, not your church membership.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru There was no Bible until the COuncil of Laodicea in AD 381. ENOUGH NONSENSE!

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@jasonbently2002

No Bible until 300AD?! At least the Hebrew bible would've existed by then! And the manuscript of the New Testament, the Gospel, was so prolifically copied and spread around the ancient world there is no other document from antiquity that can rival its authenticity and internal consistency. You have more (complete!!) Gospel manuscripts than any tracts of any known Greek philosophers combined. As I have said, the councils only officially affirmed what is already obvious.

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