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This is the moment I got hooked on the TDF. Fantastic. hen we had Riis, Pantani, Armstrong in 1999 and I was also happy for him. Then we got the horrible Armstrong years where he started to show his despicable character. So glad when he decided to quit. Even better when he came back and got beaten by Alberto. I love The Tour! I wished I started watching sooner than 1995.
Indurain no podía seguir la estela de 4 DOPADOS hijos de puta. Pero esto no es lo peor, lo peor es que a los franchutes no les interesaba que Miguel se vistiera otra de vez de amarillo y la organización encubrió las pruebas de dopaje para evitar que Miguel se alzara con su sexto tour consecutivo. Posteriormente Riis confesó haberse dopado durando mas de 4 años con EPO pero el Tour 1996 todavía sigue siendo suyo y a Contador lo llevan crucificando mas de un año por un picogramo de clembuterol
questa tappa rimarrà nella storia! la neve sulla madeleine, la maglia gialla che abbandona, bruyneel che cade nel burrone poi si riprende, zulle e soprattuttu indurain che cedono. grandi ricordi ed emozioni. peccato non ci sia un filmato che faccia rivivere tutta questa tappa.
@danishsatire ¿De donde te sacas tú que Indurain admitió doparse, mentiroso? Eso es la envidia que le teniais fuera... Anda, documentate un poco antes de escribir gilipolleces.
Me da que Amstrong iba hasta las trancas de sustancias..... Indurain estuvo allí cuando el dopping se convirtió en una caza de brujas y jamas dió positivo..........Pantani era un Crack, otro fuera de serie, pero alguna vez tambien se metió...........
That doesn't prove anything! However winning the TDF 5 times in a row tells me a lot. Besides Armstrong and Rasmussen was tested positive either and people who believes that these riders are clean are ready for the mental clinic
@VikingInvaders I don't know where you are going with this other than just generally ranting and lingering over the same old tired 'cyclists are all dopers' discredit. Cycling is moving on and perhaps you should also. Do you think snipes about doping are going to help things and move the quest for 'clean sport' forward? I guess you could argue they all doped then and therefore the playfield was still even anyway; what it doesn't take away is that he was one of the finest athletes of our time
@amhampshire "cycling is moving on"...yep towards the next scandal. These riders are a disgrace to this great sport and so are those who doesn't condemn them
Indurain only won 2 stages outside the Time trials in the tour de france. Lance Armstrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indurain. Indurain one of the worst champions in history, his defensive tactics was appaling and simply took advantage of a poor era in cycling
@jackdanielss Miguel Indurain was big man champion in a little man's game. For hundred of years now most of the people on the podium are little mountain goats and that's fine. But Indurain championed above all this. For this, and for his humility, he is a great champion.
Indurain: 5 Tour, 2 Giros, 1 Oro Olímpico, 1 Mundial de Contrareloj, 2 platas Mundiales en Ruta, Recordman de la Hora en 1994 y varias vueltas menores, clásicas y criteriums.
This was probably one of the greatest stages in TDF history, from start to finish. If you can forget about the fact most of them were on EPO that is....
% Tours in a row is a miracle. No shame being beaten on 1996. Just winning a single Tour in your career is a marvelous achievement. Winning 5 is just... amazing. It's natural. At some point all great cyclist see their careers end.
There's no point in comparing Armstrong to Indurain. 2 different cyclist at different point in time. Im spaniard but i have a greato respecto for armstrong.
% Tours in a row is a miracle. No shame being beaten on 1996. Just winning a single Tour in your career is a marvelous achievement. Winning 5 is just... amazing. It's natural. At some point all great cyclist see their careers end.
There's no point in comparing Armstrong to Indurain. 2 different cyclist at different point in time. Im spaniard but i have a greato respecto for armstrong.
Indurain much more to it to launch! Indurain had good opponents and throw noo! 5 tours and 2 twists! haul only ran for the tour and the rest of the year did nothing! indurated and the best point
Riders are not allowed to take bottles from team cars in the last 20km of a race (sometimes 10km if the organiser think it's really hot that day).
It's so the team cars are not up at the front during the decisive last kms of the race - if they were, it might interfere with the racing, drafting, pacing, etc etc.
no me extraña que le pasara eso a indurain todos iban dopados hasta las cejas todos son unos perdedores llenos de epo hasta las cejas indurain es el verdadero campeon del tour 1996
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e InduDopo no iba dopado según tu jajajajjajajajjjjajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj. Si tuvo un mal fue por el efecto de todo lo que se metía el majo y se metió en su carrera.
Bueno posiblemente sea verdad que con los métodos que hay hoy en día todos los corredores del 96 darían positivo, pero en cualquier caso la situación en el 96 era = para todos y no creo que Indurain tuviera ninguna ventaja. Aún así estás dándolo por hecho sin tener ni una sola prueba de peso, y acusar sin pruebas no es justo ni legítimo.
this is the year Bjarne Riis was doped up to his eyeballs and won the tour in which he recently admitted. Was a disgrace. Try as they might in their ridiculous accusations of drug use by Indurain they let someone like Riise away with it and look at the sport now. It was so clear he was on drugs. He was foaming at the mouth for Christ sake on every stage of the mountains. The fucking French hated the fact a Spaniard was dominating their Tour. Its a shame how they treated one of the greatest
Tambien ayudaria que la television y los esponsor blanqueen la situacion del doping, Pedro Delgado es comentariasta en TVE y lo sabe pero no dicen nada, Amstrong lo sabe tambien y volvio, una pena.
Indurain es un grande no tiene discusion pero convengamos que solo con vitaminas no ganan ni una carrera de calle, el doping no esta en la carrera esta en los entrenamientos por eso solo preparan el tour, hojala se pueda limpiar por el bien del ciclismo.
El dopaje esta en el ciclismo de competicion (elite,sub23,juveniles..) en entrenamientos y en carreras.Solo con pasta y ensaladas no se corre un Tour o una temporada con 30.000 km en las piernas.Muchos casos ya de dopaje...en un mundo sucio.Una pena.
¿Y tú crees que un futbolista profesional puede correr 12 km cada partido, con la concentración y la agresión sobre tobillos y rodillas que exige, comiendo las lentejas de la abuela? El ciclismo es el conejillo de indias. Estoy seguro de que deportes durísimos como la natación, la gimnasia o el esquí no están mucho más limpios.
no it is not at all, because it is a simple and true cycle of life. in sport we forgot what it is to fight against years passing through the life of somebody (follow my eyes)
Amstrong use drugs..everybody knows, tour de france had the evidence every year, and they said that, but couldn´t go to court because of economic issues. Amstrong was money and promotion around the world for tour. Indurain, the best ever....no discussion
Te has pasado macho,puede que Rominger fuese un superclase (de hecho lo era),pero Zulle y Chiapucci estaban un paso por debajo...por no hablar de Bugno.
Miguel is the most incredible sportman I've ever seen. He was the best once, when there were at least 3-4 "supers" (Rominger, Bugno, Chiapucci, Zulle...)
@keimal Riijs won this Tour. Afterwards he recognised that he was an EPO cannibal. Miguel was the big man, then, bastards like Riijs were together to beat Miguel. Miguel showed the world that he did not take EPO and this staff. Siempre el más grande Miguelón! Viva Navarra! Viva España!
Eddy is the best in history, after him it will be Miguel Indurain and Hinault. Lance won the tour but no other major race. An also it is a fact that he took EPO and other substances that he said he needed to treat cancer which he knew it wasnt true, however Lance has the best lawyers on the country.
No one's gonna tell you a thing about the Yankees because here in Europe we don't give a damn for baseball.Lance had bad days?Maybe some days he was not as much domineering as others but he always was completely recovered the next day.
The man was human after all... And, like who does not dope, had bad days. The ones that in 7 years never had a bad day, like Armstrong the cheater, are the abnormal ones, who we should suspect of...
Oh Lance never had a bad day did he? He never "bonked" in 2000(please search Lance Armstrong bonks on youtube if you like)... Lance got his doors blown off in the individual time trial in 2003(stage 12), Jan Ullrich dropped him on a mountain stage again in 2003 on Plateau de Bonascre, and Lance couldnt answer attacks from Iban Mayo on Alpe De Huez in 2003, nor could he answer attacks from Vino on Bourg d'Oisans - Gap stage also in 2003.. How un-informed can you possibly be about Lance Armstrong?
I meant 'real' cracking... Few seconds, when he is already in control is perhaps just a way to disquise against his secret. The FACT is that he was never real threatned and in other stages (I remember when Ulrich left him a few seconds behind in a climb) it was nothing. The FACT is that ARMSTRONG = CHEATER!
A few seconds?? Lance lost over a minute and a half in one stage to J. Ulrich in 2003. Ulrich also beat him in mountain stages a few times. Lance's bad days are common knowledge to anyone who actually follows cycling. What are you going to tell us next, that the Yankees never lost in the World Series??
Armstrong deserves all our respect because of his great courage but you can't deny it's a little bit suspected the way he won 7 consecutive Tours when, until 1999, he only had been a "good cyclist".
actually they found EPO in an armstrong doping test from 1999. but they only detected it a few years later when they were able to detect it with new methods and by then the test results were irrelevant because they were done too late!
Actually thats not quite true. A French agency froze some of Armstrong's urine samples from the 1999 tour, and conducted tests on them a few years later that supposedly found EPO. But the results were not irrelevant because the were done too late, they were irrelevant because after an inquiry the testing methods were found to be "so far below the required scientific standard that the results did not constitute evidence for anything."
Oh Lance never had a bad day did he? He never "bonked" in 2000(please search Lance Armstrong bonks on youtube if you like)... Lance got his doors blown off in the individual time trial in 2003(stage 12), Jan Ullrich dropped him on a mountain stage again in 2003 on Plateau de Bonascre, and Lance couldnt answer attacks from Iban Mayo on Alpe De Huez in 2003, nor could he answer attacks from Vino on Bourg d'Oisans - Gap stage also in 2003.. How un-informed can you possibly be about Lance Armstrong?
Indurain arguably best cyclist ever For sure. Arsmtrong would have never won 7 tours with indurain who won 5 in a row and also the spanish vuelta and il giro twice !
It's a shame they didn't show the exact moment where Indurain blew. All they showed was a few moments after he'd been dropped. I've read somewhere that the Mapei's (Rominger and Olano) did as much work as possible in the last 4k's to put as much time as possible into Indurain. Shame the TV coverage wasn't better.
"Indurain makes me sick because he's actually a really nice guy. You can't actually work yourself up, there's no hate involved, no anger. He's a really nice bloke and a true champion." — Chris Boardman
Vancomycin87, He didn't test positive for EPO in 99. People were concerned he took some type of drug, but when they investigated it, it turned out to be a cream to treat saddle sores which Armstrong got approved by the Tour de france board. And by the way, If he was so succesful in winning the tour de france in 1999, 2000 without drugs, why would he have to take them later on in the 2000's?
Lance's doping controversy was a product of the French media. Let's face it, the french don't like Americans. Even worse, Lance is from Texas. Him winning the tour was like a french baseball team winning the world series. People in france were syaing "Why is this American doing so well and our riders doing so poorly? He must be on drugs, it's the only explanation." However, Lnce has been tested Hundreds of times, and not once did he test positive for roids, EPO, or anything else.
LMAO !...how ingenuous you are?! his urine sample from ´99 was tested positive of EPO...but than in the 2000s he doped (probably) with EPO of the second or third generation ...btw: ricardo ricco took the second generation...maybe schlecks do it with 3rd..but i love cycling...by fair
Don't give a monkey's about what Lance has or has not done. The guy is an arse!...Ruined the Tour as spectacle. He will NEVER be cycling hero in my books...And just because he hasn't been caught(though their has been smoke, and theres no smoke without fire.)Doesn't mean he didn't dope. Love him all you want. I have no time for him.
Armstrong was a doper. So much testimony. Speak to Simioni or Bassons or Whittle or Andreau. Ask Bruyneel about the doping programme at US Postal that he continued at Astana.
He won 5 Tours against REAL opponents like Bugno, Chiappucci, Zülle, Rominger, Jalabert, Ugrumov, Virenque, Lemond, Riis, Pantani... and with absolutely no team, while Amstrong had one of the best teams ever.
And he won Giro and Tour in the same year twice (while Lance only prepared Tour).
Add an Hour Record, World Championships, Olimpycs...
Big Mig was indeed great, but I think it is a bit unfair to say he had no team, as a matter of fact he had a great team... Not alot of flash, but hardworking, loyal and effective...
Indurain cracked. Of course, he's human... Armstrong never cracked in 7 years. Meaning that, since he is also a human, he had some secret... CHEATER!!!
I dont care about the audience numbers. It was boooring, and I suppose that if there was an increase it was because of the new americans interested in cycling because of Amstrong, but who cares about audience? Now the tour is much more interesting, because you dont know who is winning...
He was the best. He was modest and generous. He had great enemies, like Rominger and Ciapucci. We must remember that if Miguel had not been there, we would have had a "Rominguer" era. I bet Rominguer would have won at least 3 tours. Amstrong never had any great enemy. His era was ther most boring ever.
Yer an idiot. Armstrong's era was the most boring ever? Go look at the audience numbers, the highest ever. Watching Lance race was awesome because it was him vs. everyone. Lance was and is still the best. Watching these weak sauce losers race each other is pointless because Lance could destroy them all.
Pantani, Ullrich, Belokki,Basso,Vinokurov,Kloden,Virenque,Zulle!! By the way! The 2003 TDF was one of the most eexciting ever! Lance is a living legend like it or not!
Lance sucks BIG time!...hate him...ruined the tour!...And for your info..Eddie Merckx is the GREATEST cyclist ever to live. And in the tour...He won the Green jersey, KOM jersey and the Yellow jersy in the same Tour!..thats class!. Over 500 wins..no cyclist will ever achive that again.
So wheres the media frenzy;)? Every french newspaper would pounce on that news! Lance has already won ower 13 million $ in lawsuits in countles accusations! Know what?? Nobody coould prove that he doped;)!
Armstrong had to many red blood cells in 1999, which indicates the use of EPO. And it really doesn't matter whether they have be caught or not because we all know that most of the riders cheat - and for sure every winner of the tour
Every body here who wite shits about Miguel have no idea of cyclist, Miguel won 5 consecutive tour beting bii men as Ciapuchi or Rominguer, aso won Amstrong and Lemon , and a big squad of big cyclers. Is Injustice to say that miguel was doppes, he was tested a lot of time and ever he had a positive.HE was a gentleman in his sport carere
I didn't like the way Indurain rode, he never attacked in the mountains, but he was a humble champion. The Armstrong era was the most boring in cycling history though.
bamos a ver , bamos a ver .. quien cojones , dice que edy merk , gano 5 tour ,, ... esque me hierve la sangre , cuando hableis hacerlo por derecho coño , ufff , valla pandilla
echujamonero as escrito lo que estaba pensando,pero recuerda que este es el país de la envidia,existe la ignorancia de creer que lo de fuera es mejor que lo de aquí....garrulos
hecatenthroned ,, donde se a visto que a un ganador del tour de francia , como contador , no pueda participar en el tour , porque su equipo no tiene bastante puntuacion , que puntuacion quieren , si la prueba es que el año pasado gano el tour , otro español , aupa españa
indurain , tuvo un problema , estar en banesto , sus compañeros , en el primer puerto se quedaban todos , el estuvo 5 años aguantando los ataques de chapuci , toni rominger , ales zule ect , ect ect , si llega a estar en la once , gana 10 tour seguidos , porque la once , a su lider lo acompañaban 7 de su equipo has el final ,,, so ignorantes
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1933santiago 1 week ago
I mean then we had Ulrich,Pantani,Armstrong.
MarleneNL 2 months ago
This is the moment I got hooked on the TDF. Fantastic. hen we had Riis, Pantani, Armstrong in 1999 and I was also happy for him. Then we got the horrible Armstrong years where he started to show his despicable character. So glad when he decided to quit. Even better when he came back and got beaten by Alberto. I love The Tour! I wished I started watching sooner than 1995.
MarleneNL 2 months ago
Indurain no podía seguir la estela de 4 DOPADOS hijos de puta. Pero esto no es lo peor, lo peor es que a los franchutes no les interesaba que Miguel se vistiera otra de vez de amarillo y la organización encubrió las pruebas de dopaje para evitar que Miguel se alzara con su sexto tour consecutivo. Posteriormente Riis confesó haberse dopado durando mas de 4 años con EPO pero el Tour 1996 todavía sigue siendo suyo y a Contador lo llevan crucificando mas de un año por un picogramo de clembuterol
Dantemayi 5 months ago
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Dantemayi 5 months ago
According to wiki this guy had one of the slowest heart rates ever recorded in a healthy person (@ 28bpm RR). 1 beat every 2 seconds lol.
ubercamel 6 months ago
questa tappa rimarrà nella storia! la neve sulla madeleine, la maglia gialla che abbandona, bruyneel che cade nel burrone poi si riprende, zulle e soprattuttu indurain che cedono. grandi ricordi ed emozioni. peccato non ci sia un filmato che faccia rivivere tutta questa tappa.
massim776 7 months ago
@danishsatire indurain never said that idiot
krust1402 7 months ago
Normal que Miguel no ganara esa edición, iban dopados HASTA LAS CEJAS todos los que corrían. INDURAIN ES EL MÁS GRANDE
LLBBGGMM 7 months ago
Fatídico día que marcó a toda una generación...
orelmo 8 months ago
@danishsatire ¿De donde te sacas tú que Indurain admitió doparse, mentiroso? Eso es la envidia que le teniais fuera... Anda, documentate un poco antes de escribir gilipolleces.
MrKatiusko 8 months ago
indurain was natural . in1996 he leave the ploton because there was no hopes to beat dopes cyclists
napomania 11 months ago 2
Me da que Amstrong iba hasta las trancas de sustancias..... Indurain estuvo allí cuando el dopping se convirtió en una caza de brujas y jamas dió positivo..........Pantani era un Crack, otro fuera de serie, pero alguna vez tambien se metió...........
aagoge 1 year ago
The doping didn't work out
VikingInvaders 1 year ago
@VikingInvaders That's original. For the record he was never tested positive.
amhampshire 1 year ago
That doesn't prove anything! However winning the TDF 5 times in a row tells me a lot. Besides Armstrong and Rasmussen was tested positive either and people who believes that these riders are clean are ready for the mental clinic
VikingInvaders 1 year ago
@VikingInvaders I don't know where you are going with this other than just generally ranting and lingering over the same old tired 'cyclists are all dopers' discredit. Cycling is moving on and perhaps you should also. Do you think snipes about doping are going to help things and move the quest for 'clean sport' forward? I guess you could argue they all doped then and therefore the playfield was still even anyway; what it doesn't take away is that he was one of the finest athletes of our time
amhampshire 1 year ago
@amhampshire "cycling is moving on"...yep towards the next scandal. These riders are a disgrace to this great sport and so are those who doesn't condemn them
VikingInvaders 1 year ago
@VikingInvaders Man you are driving me to drugs; just off to shoot up an asprin...
amhampshire 1 year ago
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starstriker2010 1 year ago
Indurain only won 2 stages outside the Time trials in the tour de france. Lance Armstrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indurain. Indurain one of the worst champions in history, his defensive tactics was appaling and simply took advantage of a poor era in cycling
jackdanielss 1 year ago
@jackdanielss Miguel Indurain was big man champion in a little man's game. For hundred of years now most of the people on the podium are little mountain goats and that's fine. But Indurain championed above all this. For this, and for his humility, he is a great champion.
QuakePhil 1 year ago 2
its the 7th stage chambery-les arc - i have the complete stage on vhs
zagor1974 1 year ago
I believe Indurain had faired very badly in the rain before this stage. Amazing athlete but was often accused of being boring.
wikichris 1 year ago
Armstrong: 7 Tour y 1 Mundial en ruta
Indurain: 5 Tour, 2 Giros, 1 Oro Olímpico, 1 Mundial de Contrareloj, 2 platas Mundiales en Ruta, Recordman de la Hora en 1994 y varias vueltas menores, clásicas y criteriums.
¿Quién es mejor?
SmartCasual86 1 year ago 9
@SmartCasual86 Tu lo has dicho todo, armtrong solo corría el Tour.
Y este día fue de los mas tristes de mi vida "deportiva"
librelibr 1 year ago
@librelibr tambien el mio
davidcandelas 1 year ago
@SmartCasual86
7 Copas de Europa es mejor que 5 Copas de Europa y 2 ligas.
Amstrong tambien ganó varias vueltas menores,clasicas y etapas.
josepatches 1 year ago
@SmartCasual86 y un bronce mundialista
VEGADDICTED 4 months ago
the Miguel Indurain era, one of the best moments oh The Tour
braguldo666 1 year ago
I like Miguel Indurain, He was one of the best that I've ever seen.
scalatorino 1 year ago
Golden days of the Tour!
Martinofredwall100 1 year ago
This was probably one of the greatest stages in TDF history, from start to finish. If you can forget about the fact most of them were on EPO that is....
EMC2Scotia 1 year ago
"Lance is the greatest champion in the history of the Tour de France, not in the history of cycling, that s Eddy Merckx." ~ Miguel Indurain
Drago110482 1 year ago 3
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% Tours in a row is a miracle. No shame being beaten on 1996. Just winning a single Tour in your career is a marvelous achievement. Winning 5 is just... amazing. It's natural. At some point all great cyclist see their careers end.
There's no point in comparing Armstrong to Indurain. 2 different cyclist at different point in time. Im spaniard but i have a greato respecto for armstrong.
sabueso32 1 year ago
% Tours in a row is a miracle. No shame being beaten on 1996. Just winning a single Tour in your career is a marvelous achievement. Winning 5 is just... amazing. It's natural. At some point all great cyclist see their careers end.
There's no point in comparing Armstrong to Indurain. 2 different cyclist at different point in time. Im spaniard but i have a greato respecto for armstrong.
sabueso32 1 year ago
5 TOUR 2 GIROS SEMPRE INDURAIN
julipas81 1 year ago
Indurain much more to it to launch! Indurain had good opponents and throw noo! 5 tours and 2 twists! haul only ran for the tour and the rest of the year did nothing! indurated and the best point
javeaeselmejorpueblo 1 year ago
americanos de mierda no saveis que decir yaa!! aunque lance tenga 7 tour indurain tiene mejor palmaress!! payasoss
javeaeselmejorpueblo 1 year ago
Induarin and Mercks have been the best two by miles
oscarmcmc 2 years ago 3
ok, gotcha, sorry for blowing like a volcano. i get you now, that is funny. haha
13inverse89 2 years ago
wow, lose a pound yourself. or better yet, cut your balls off. that's the most retarded "advantage' i've heard of.
13inverse89 2 years ago
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Fucking losers - all of them
VikingInvaders 2 years ago
INDURAIN INDURAIN INDURAIN !!!
Te vi pasarme este fin de semana en Larrau !!!
kajonto 2 years ago 4
Armstrong is a lousy cheater. Not more.
I loved Eddy Merckx, the best cycler of the world!
WerwolfGer 2 years ago
EPO from team car?
Not help.
:)
Armstrong 777777777777777777
:)
HayateAce 2 years ago
QUESTION: how come Indurain couldn't take a water bottle during his climb?
what's the rule on that?....
aznsketcher 2 years ago
Riders are not allowed to take bottles from team cars in the last 20km of a race (sometimes 10km if the organiser think it's really hot that day).
It's so the team cars are not up at the front during the decisive last kms of the race - if they were, it might interfere with the racing, drafting, pacing, etc etc.
niceonetom 2 years ago
@niceonetom: thanks! it bugged me wondering why there's a rule like that. that was a "nice one, tom!'
aznsketcher 2 years ago
se me saltaban las lagrimas ese dia...
manolako 2 years ago
looks as if miguel indurain forgot to take his EPO load the day before:-)
jayseebk 2 years ago
Yes, because the day before Armstrong left the TDF carrying whit him all the EPO available
paladeperre 2 years ago
that explains everything:-)
jayseebk 2 years ago
In 1995 and 96 Armstrong was not able to climb a shit. EPO was not enough for him
xaviqaz 2 years ago
Armstrong will still kick your ass in 2010 LIVESTORNG MTF
venadoSOTX 2 years ago 2
he will need a wheelchair to go back home
xaviqaz 2 years ago
Ohhh, so that was one day after the popular day, when Armstrong had to quit the Tour as a consequence of his disease.
It is said at 3:10!
laviolette2 2 years ago
no me extraña que le pasara eso a indurain todos iban dopados hasta las cejas todos son unos perdedores llenos de epo hasta las cejas indurain es el verdadero campeon del tour 1996
yibi81 2 years ago 18
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e InduDopo no iba dopado según tu jajajajjajajajjjjajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj. Si tuvo un mal fue por el efecto de todo lo que se metía el majo y se metió en su carrera.
juandi2570 2 years ago
Bueno posiblemente sea verdad que con los métodos que hay hoy en día todos los corredores del 96 darían positivo, pero en cualquier caso la situación en el 96 era = para todos y no creo que Indurain tuviera ninguna ventaja. Aún así estás dándolo por hecho sin tener ni una sola prueba de peso, y acusar sin pruebas no es justo ni legítimo.
saturdayboy 2 years ago 2
qué poco sabes de ciclismo xD
Astrolabios 2 years ago
el título de Rjiis estaba más que sucio.
hace un año, reconoció que se había dopado durante su carrera.
y en el 96, debería de ir hasta las trancas.
JanUllrich02 2 years ago
this is the year Bjarne Riis was doped up to his eyeballs and won the tour in which he recently admitted. Was a disgrace. Try as they might in their ridiculous accusations of drug use by Indurain they let someone like Riise away with it and look at the sport now. It was so clear he was on drugs. He was foaming at the mouth for Christ sake on every stage of the mountains. The fucking French hated the fact a Spaniard was dominating their Tour. Its a shame how they treated one of the greatest
headballsucksass 2 years ago 3
i love cycling but do you realy think there are CLEAN riders ?? from 1990/1991 till now there is epo and you can see cycling changed forever !!!
liesjes55 2 years ago
atleast bjarne had the guts to tell he took doping, unlike the rest of the peloton who were also using doping but just didn't tell
devidia 2 years ago 3
Bo Hamburger was doped
benissimo86 2 years ago
The winningest pros seem to be about 5' 10" and use 172.5 and 175
LeMonde was 5' 10" and used 175mm crank arms.
picklehead7 2 years ago
Wondering: what are the longest crank lengths used by any rider today in pro racing?
dob90210 2 years ago
72.5mm used by Armstrong and Leipheimer
warren09121971 2 years ago
For out and out drama this stage, along with the final TT in '89, was arguably the best in tour history.
sdyson12 3 years ago
Tambien ayudaria que la television y los esponsor blanqueen la situacion del doping, Pedro Delgado es comentariasta en TVE y lo sabe pero no dicen nada, Amstrong lo sabe tambien y volvio, una pena.
Sino que sea legal y no se habla mas
adayala36 3 years ago
An example of bonking, probably due to lack of food and/or water. Wearing down of the body over time doesn't help either.
lazurm 3 years ago
Chambéry - Les Arcs
Cagas29 3 years ago
was a cold day, leblanc has arm warmers in july
fignon 3 years ago
Indurain es un grande no tiene discusion pero convengamos que solo con vitaminas no ganan ni una carrera de calle, el doping no esta en la carrera esta en los entrenamientos por eso solo preparan el tour, hojala se pueda limpiar por el bien del ciclismo.
adayala36 3 years ago
El dopaje esta en el ciclismo de competicion (elite,sub23,juveniles..) en entrenamientos y en carreras.Solo con pasta y ensaladas no se corre un Tour o una temporada con 30.000 km en las piernas.Muchos casos ya de dopaje...en un mundo sucio.Una pena.
JRoca79 3 years ago
¿Y tú crees que un futbolista profesional puede correr 12 km cada partido, con la concentración y la agresión sobre tobillos y rodillas que exige, comiendo las lentejas de la abuela? El ciclismo es el conejillo de indias. Estoy seguro de que deportes durísimos como la natación, la gimnasia o el esquí no están mucho más limpios.
xaviqaz 2 years ago
Qué día más triste... nunca lo olvidaré. Aquella tarde en Les Arcs nos dimos cuenta de lo que teníamos.
puzzleguay 3 years ago
no it is not at all, because it is a simple and true cycle of life. in sport we forgot what it is to fight against years passing through the life of somebody (follow my eyes)
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ax3008 3 years ago
probably the dirtiest generation
adrianlatrace 3 years ago
Why are world records are coming down?
mustardjunkie 3 years ago
really awesome footage, great color casting by Roche and the other Irish guy.
chris14091975 3 years ago
cyclism and athletism are the most controled sport , what about foot and rugby ???????
don t be silly , sport at high level is a great joke ! welcome to olympic games..
nouc 3 years ago
Amstrong use drugs..everybody knows, tour de france had the evidence every year, and they said that, but couldn´t go to court because of economic issues. Amstrong was money and promotion around the world for tour. Indurain, the best ever....no discussion
Neykos 3 years ago
Ive been waiting for someone to give me the facts about L Armstrong and drugs, go on then spill the facts.##
He's dirty is he?
The finest cyclist that ever turned a crank is dirty?
Go away you scummy nothing.
peterzed12 3 years ago 3
Te has pasado macho,puede que Rominger fuese un superclase (de hecho lo era),pero Zulle y Chiapucci estaban un paso por debajo...por no hablar de Bugno.
walrus51976 3 years ago
Miguel is the most incredible sportman I've ever seen. He was the best once, when there were at least 3-4 "supers" (Rominger, Bugno, Chiapucci, Zulle...)
Lance is very big, but no way like Miguelon.
jorgesalamancavi 3 years ago 21
@jorgesalamancavi
They're similar in that they were both fuelled by EPO and other forms of cheating :)
keimal 1 year ago
@keimal Riijs won this Tour. Afterwards he recognised that he was an EPO cannibal. Miguel was the big man, then, bastards like Riijs were together to beat Miguel. Miguel showed the world that he did not take EPO and this staff. Siempre el más grande Miguelón! Viva Navarra! Viva España!
kehizman 1 year ago
@kehizman
Dude, if you think Big Mig wasn't fuelling on EPO you're sadly deluded.
keimal 1 year ago 3
@jorgesalamancavi
Zulle rode in the armstrong-years, comming in 2nd in 1999
Basso
Ullrich
Pantani
Indurain: 10 tourstages won
Armtrong: 22 torustages won
You're probably from Spain or spanish-speaking, I understand, i'm not sayin armstrong is much better, but you're wrong.
jccusell 1 year ago
Eddy is the best in history, after him it will be Miguel Indurain and Hinault. Lance won the tour but no other major race. An also it is a fact that he took EPO and other substances that he said he needed to treat cancer which he knew it wasnt true, however Lance has the best lawyers on the country.
sopopre 3 years ago
No one's gonna tell you a thing about the Yankees because here in Europe we don't give a damn for baseball.Lance had bad days?Maybe some days he was not as much domineering as others but he always was completely recovered the next day.
walrus51976 3 years ago
why the hell did they penalize for taking water from the team car?
dtelegdi 3 years ago
The man was human after all... And, like who does not dope, had bad days. The ones that in 7 years never had a bad day, like Armstrong the cheater, are the abnormal ones, who we should suspect of...
dcantunes 3 years ago 2
Oh Lance never had a bad day did he? He never "bonked" in 2000(please search Lance Armstrong bonks on youtube if you like)... Lance got his doors blown off in the individual time trial in 2003(stage 12), Jan Ullrich dropped him on a mountain stage again in 2003 on Plateau de Bonascre, and Lance couldnt answer attacks from Iban Mayo on Alpe De Huez in 2003, nor could he answer attacks from Vino on Bourg d'Oisans - Gap stage also in 2003.. How un-informed can you possibly be about Lance Armstrong?
Tking4unc 3 years ago
Very ignorant. Tour 2000, Joux-Plane. Look it up.
smash29 3 years ago 2
I meant 'real' cracking... Few seconds, when he is already in control is perhaps just a way to disquise against his secret. The FACT is that he was never real threatned and in other stages (I remember when Ulrich left him a few seconds behind in a climb) it was nothing. The FACT is that ARMSTRONG = CHEATER!
dcantunes 3 years ago
A few seconds?? Lance lost over a minute and a half in one stage to J. Ulrich in 2003. Ulrich also beat him in mountain stages a few times. Lance's bad days are common knowledge to anyone who actually follows cycling. What are you going to tell us next, that the Yankees never lost in the World Series??
iiiBlueSparkiii 3 years ago
Anyway, he doesn't have to prove his innocence but others have to prove his guilt. So, for me, he is a fair winner and a great champion.
walrus51976 3 years ago 2
Armstrong deserves all our respect because of his great courage but you can't deny it's a little bit suspected the way he won 7 consecutive Tours when, until 1999, he only had been a "good cyclist".
walrus51976 3 years ago
Armstrong never was controlled positive but Rijs neither and several years later Bjarne confessed he was dopped in 1996.
walrus51976 3 years ago
actually they found EPO in an armstrong doping test from 1999. but they only detected it a few years later when they were able to detect it with new methods and by then the test results were irrelevant because they were done too late!
MacTobey 3 years ago
Actually thats not quite true. A French agency froze some of Armstrong's urine samples from the 1999 tour, and conducted tests on them a few years later that supposedly found EPO. But the results were not irrelevant because the were done too late, they were irrelevant because after an inquiry the testing methods were found to be "so far below the required scientific standard that the results did not constitute evidence for anything."
tuber8440 3 years ago
This proves that Indurain didn't dope, he had some bad days in his career. Armstrong, for example, never had a bad day for seven years.
walrus51976 3 years ago
Oh Lance never had a bad day did he? He never "bonked" in 2000(please search Lance Armstrong bonks on youtube if you like)... Lance got his doors blown off in the individual time trial in 2003(stage 12), Jan Ullrich dropped him on a mountain stage again in 2003 on Plateau de Bonascre, and Lance couldnt answer attacks from Iban Mayo on Alpe De Huez in 2003, nor could he answer attacks from Vino on Bourg d'Oisans - Gap stage also in 2003.. How un-informed can you possibly be about Lance Armstrong?
Tking4unc 3 years ago 3
Again, Tour de France 2000, Joux-Plane. Bad day for Armstrong but using your flawed logic it at least proves that he wasn't doping!
smash29 3 years ago
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One of the most beautiful moments ever. Indurain was a real pain in the ass. No winner at all, just a follower.
JasperPlaisier 3 years ago
Jasperplai... you´ve got a problem with no solution. You´re a complete asshole
migscratch 3 years ago
Indurain arguably best cyclist ever For sure. Arsmtrong would have never won 7 tours with indurain who won 5 in a row and also the spanish vuelta and il giro twice !
johannesjuanes 3 years ago
agreement here m8
lance just raced the tour for 7 followin years. he was a pusher and the federation letted him get shit coz of his balls cancer...
anyway, respect for lance
Miskojones 3 years ago
Indurain never won the Vuelta, he finished 2nd to Mauri in 1991 but that was the closest he got to victory
ta1920 3 years ago
It's a shame they didn't show the exact moment where Indurain blew. All they showed was a few moments after he'd been dropped. I've read somewhere that the Mapei's (Rominger and Olano) did as much work as possible in the last 4k's to put as much time as possible into Indurain. Shame the TV coverage wasn't better.
ta1920 3 years ago
"Indurain makes me sick because he's actually a really nice guy. You can't actually work yourself up, there's no hate involved, no anger. He's a really nice bloke and a true champion." — Chris Boardman
fcbfan2k 3 years ago 4
Something went wrong with Indurain and his EPO - poor guy
VikingInvaders 3 years ago
something went worng with your intelligence -poor ape
depuga 3 years ago 2
Obviously you are fan of Indurain ;-)
VikingInvaders 3 years ago
3:12 "..yesterday,armstrong packed it in and climbed off his bike and said no more for me.." lance armstrong? cant be.
jackfallsoff 3 years ago
It sure was Lance they talked about.
Before Lance started to use EPO he quit most of the tours :-)
VikingInvaders 3 years ago
yea, Lance Armstrong. He was diagnosed with cancer in October of 1996... so that's why he didn't finish.
soccerguy315 3 years ago
miguel indurain es el mejor ciclista de la historia!! le pese a quien le pese!!
y en lo que no hay duda es en que es el mejor contrarrelojista que ha habio!!
floniodevil 3 years ago 2
Fausto Coppi e Gino bartali a belli!!!
Pe non parlà de Marco Pantani...
rollo88888888 3 years ago
indurain el mejor ciclista de todos los tiempos!!!
alejandrop 3 years ago
indu era la puta makina
lokizo0 3 years ago
Vancomycin87, He didn't test positive for EPO in 99. People were concerned he took some type of drug, but when they investigated it, it turned out to be a cream to treat saddle sores which Armstrong got approved by the Tour de france board. And by the way, If he was so succesful in winning the tour de france in 1999, 2000 without drugs, why would he have to take them later on in the 2000's?
x0qtr09 3 years ago
the frence hate lance due too winning tour so many times . thats why they target the none dopper
nam111111111 3 years ago
Lance's doping controversy was a product of the French media. Let's face it, the french don't like Americans. Even worse, Lance is from Texas. Him winning the tour was like a french baseball team winning the world series. People in france were syaing "Why is this American doing so well and our riders doing so poorly? He must be on drugs, it's the only explanation." However, Lnce has been tested Hundreds of times, and not once did he test positive for roids, EPO, or anything else.
x0qtr09 3 years ago 2
LMAO !...how ingenuous you are?! his urine sample from ´99 was tested positive of EPO...but than in the 2000s he doped (probably) with EPO of the second or third generation ...btw: ricardo ricco took the second generation...maybe schlecks do it with 3rd..but i love cycling...by fair
vancomycin87 3 years ago
Don't give a monkey's about what Lance has or has not done. The guy is an arse!...Ruined the Tour as spectacle. He will NEVER be cycling hero in my books...And just because he hasn't been caught(though their has been smoke, and theres no smoke without fire.)Doesn't mean he didn't dope. Love him all you want. I have no time for him.
Bodneyblue 3 years ago
If I am clean and beat riders doped to the hilt then I must be superman
donnybrooklads 3 years ago
Armstrong was a doper. So much testimony. Speak to Simioni or Bassons or Whittle or Andreau. Ask Bruyneel about the doping programme at US Postal that he continued at Astana.
GerrardsSocks17 3 years ago
THE BIGGEST EVER.
He won 5 Tours against REAL opponents like Bugno, Chiappucci, Zülle, Rominger, Jalabert, Ugrumov, Virenque, Lemond, Riis, Pantani... and with absolutely no team, while Amstrong had one of the best teams ever.
And he won Giro and Tour in the same year twice (while Lance only prepared Tour).
Add an Hour Record, World Championships, Olimpycs...
Lance was great, but Miguel was the greatest
lunxbox 3 years ago 5
Damn straight Miguel was the man, and is still the best cyclist Ive seen on the tour!
ktayor1 3 years ago
Big Mig was indeed great, but I think it is a bit unfair to say he had no team, as a matter of fact he had a great team... Not alot of flash, but hardworking, loyal and effective...
tn270585 3 years ago 2
Indurain cracked. Of course, he's human... Armstrong never cracked in 7 years. Meaning that, since he is also a human, he had some secret... CHEATER!!!
dcantunes 3 years ago
he cracked 2000 in morzine...
ridetrek92 3 years ago
Lost a few seconds, doesn't count!
dcantunes 3 years ago
I dont care about the audience numbers. It was boooring, and I suppose that if there was an increase it was because of the new americans interested in cycling because of Amstrong, but who cares about audience? Now the tour is much more interesting, because you dont know who is winning...
banco1978 3 years ago
And don´t forget he had to fight (apart from Rominger and Chiappucci) Jalabert, Zülle, Bugno...
Who´s Armstrong fought with?
Juaza 3 years ago
Only the biggest talent the sport ever saw...
Nikokvaj 3 years ago
For starters he had to fight for his life, he beat cancer and that is better than any sports win!@!!!
waterdogtx915 3 years ago 2
He was the best. He was modest and generous. He had great enemies, like Rominger and Ciapucci. We must remember that if Miguel had not been there, we would have had a "Rominguer" era. I bet Rominguer would have won at least 3 tours. Amstrong never had any great enemy. His era was ther most boring ever.
banco1978 3 years ago
Yer an idiot. Armstrong's era was the most boring ever? Go look at the audience numbers, the highest ever. Watching Lance race was awesome because it was him vs. everyone. Lance was and is still the best. Watching these weak sauce losers race each other is pointless because Lance could destroy them all.
xaajeh 3 years ago
Pantani, Ullrich, Belokki,Basso,Vinokurov,Kloden,Virenque,Zulle!! By the way! The 2003 TDF was one of the most eexciting ever! Lance is a living legend like it or not!
Belokki 3 years ago
Lance sucks BIG time!...hate him...ruined the tour!...And for your info..Eddie Merckx is the GREATEST cyclist ever to live. And in the tour...He won the Green jersey, KOM jersey and the Yellow jersy in the same Tour!..thats class!. Over 500 wins..no cyclist will ever achive that again.
Bodneyblue 3 years ago
Eddy was cought doping twice! Lance was never cought ;)!
Belokki 3 years ago
thats wrong. Armstrong is aready cought.
umpfa 3 years ago
So wheres the media frenzy;)? Every french newspaper would pounce on that news! Lance has already won ower 13 million $ in lawsuits in countles accusations! Know what?? Nobody coould prove that he doped;)!
Belokki 3 years ago
@Belokki
Wrong!
Armstrong had to many red blood cells in 1999, which indicates the use of EPO. And it really doesn't matter whether they have be caught or not because we all know that most of the riders cheat - and for sure every winner of the tour
VikingInvaders 3 years ago
The best cyclist ever, Big Mig.
Ardrossan 3 years ago
Every body here who wite shits about Miguel have no idea of cyclist, Miguel won 5 consecutive tour beting bii men as Ciapuchi or Rominguer, aso won Amstrong and Lemon , and a big squad of big cyclers. Is Injustice to say that miguel was doppes, he was tested a lot of time and ever he had a positive.HE was a gentleman in his sport carere
Steingburg 3 years ago
Bjarne Riis never had a positive either .. moron
Nikokvaj 3 years ago
JJajAJa , RIss was full of epo, he recognized some years ago. And The tour hasn´t retired yet his tittle, What a shame!!
salamiyqueso 3 years ago
That was completely uncalled for.
Nikokvaj 3 years ago
the whole peleton was doped... not only telekom...
emil4231 3 years ago
1. Indurain didn't lose. But he never could win the tour '96, because the whole team telekom was doped.
2. Amstrong was not a sportsman, he was a medical test object.
hotze9274 3 years ago 4
He finished 11'th..thats a pretty bad defeat...
Nikokvaj 3 years ago
Indurain is doped get it into your small heads
Nazon123 3 years ago
I didn't like the way Indurain rode, he never attacked in the mountains, but he was a humble champion. The Armstrong era was the most boring in cycling history though.
zenmachinefilms 3 years ago
Big Mig was burnin oil
fignon 3 years ago 2
I hated to see this, Indurain was my favorite cyclist of all time, power, grace and unlike some other riders, class and HUMILITY!
espada9 4 years ago 10
El Rey. A great run by Big Mig. perhaps undone by others who were doping.
shochaneroo 4 years ago 5
bamos a ver , bamos a ver .. quien cojones , dice que edy merk , gano 5 tour ,, ... esque me hierve la sangre , cuando hableis hacerlo por derecho coño , ufff , valla pandilla
echujamonero 4 years ago
si gano 5 tours de donde sacas que no??
jonathonpower6666 4 years ago
echujamonero as escrito lo que estaba pensando,pero recuerda que este es el país de la envidia,existe la ignorancia de creer que lo de fuera es mejor que lo de aquí....garrulos
hecatenthroned 4 years ago
hecatenthroned ,, donde se a visto que a un ganador del tour de francia , como contador , no pueda participar en el tour , porque su equipo no tiene bastante puntuacion , que puntuacion quieren , si la prueba es que el año pasado gano el tour , otro español , aupa españa
echujamonero 4 years ago
indurain , tuvo un problema , estar en banesto , sus compañeros , en el primer puerto se quedaban todos , el estuvo 5 años aguantando los ataques de chapuci , toni rominger , ales zule ect , ect ect , si llega a estar en la once , gana 10 tour seguidos , porque la once , a su lider lo acompañaban 7 de su equipo has el final ,,, so ignorantes
echujamonero 4 years ago 2